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Chief Petty Officer Brother Bristone

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Jan 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/8/00
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howdy weeners,
i love ween and i love beck
and i love this oldschool '93 beck performance on a radioshow.
the song is Whimsical Actress and i must say it sounds like ween!
please -- free for the taking:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6312/Whimsical_Actress_072393.mp3

what'cha think???

-brian

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RSheedy

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Jan 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/9/00
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the beck songs called i feel like a piece of shit off of the western
harvest moon 10" have always reminded me of ween, sorry, no link to it,
but i can trade tape copies off my vinyl for ween if you want the
album. oh and of course the line "one's got a weasel..." from loser.

White T

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Jan 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/10/00
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That's funny, I always thought Little Birdy sounded kinda like somethin' off
of One Foot In The Grave

White T
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slave1

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Jan 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/12/00
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In article <3878DA97...@downtosea.com>, RSheedy <rsh...@downtosea.com> wrote:
>the beck songs called i feel like a piece of shit off of the western
>harvest moon 10" have always reminded me of ween, sorry, no link to it,
>but i can trade tape copies off my vinyl for ween if you want the
>album. oh and of course the line "one's got a weasel..." from loser.
>

i finally got my very OWN copy of beck's stereopathetic soulmanure the other
day. i like the cheap shitty sounding yet brilliant side of beck
hehe

satan gave me a taco is a masterpiece,
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elPhantasma

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Jan 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/15/00
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For my money, Beck has ALWAYS taken his primary cues from Ween. How this has escaped widespred notice is beyond me. Or maybe I'm just
high. Most of Midnite Vultures is slickly-produced soulful Ween. I'm not knocking it as I enjoy it all the same, I just have a feeling
that if the Bros. had ever been serviced w/biglabelmoney production values, that they'd be huge! (selfishly speaking, glad they're
not....)

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Goatlung

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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Alternative Press Magazine had a review of Midnite Vultures recently, and the
reviewer wrote something about the debt that Beck owes Ween. I think it's
pretty obvious as well...

J

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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> For my money, Beck has ALWAYS taken his primary cues from Ween.

Oh come on.. Give the man his due. Sure, he may not approach Weendom in
everyone's eyes, but you can't sit there and say that just because he's as
weird as Ween, that he's somehow subconsciously emulating them. His mom was
was a fruitcake in the Andy Warhol factory, one of his grandfathers was a
Presbyterian minister, his other grandfather, Al Hansen, was a looney tunes
artist - part of the fluxus movement - that shit alone is going to make for
an either seriously fucked up or brilliant kid. He was raised right in the
middle of the LA punk scene and the dude used to sit in the back of busses,
playing in coffee houses and on sidewalks spouting anti-folk with hoboes and
other assorted weirdoes, and he eventually hooked up with even weirder
thrash/folk street poets who made songs about eating from toilet bowls and
sex with hermaphrodite midgets. It's the whole anti-folk scene that cued
him into putting no limits on his songs' subject matter. And you gotta give
the dude credit for striking a deal with a big record company that still
lets him freelance for smaller labels and put out basically whatever the
fuck he wants! Don't shit all over me now, I'm in no way dissing Ween here,
but I don't think this guy owes a debt to anyone.. I think he does what he
feels, and when the big time mixmasters like the Dust Brothers got ahold of
him and he realized that they could kick just about any beat for him he
imagined, he was probably shitting in his pants in delight.

elPhantasma

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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Let it not be said that I have disrespected the beck.  As I thought I had inferred, I am definitely a fan.  The fact that he can leap from genre to genre and style to style (like Ween and many others) keeps me interested always.  However, I do maintain that almost anything beck's done, Ween has done first.  Maybe this is a coincidence...  I have read the beck's press kits as well, and I've also heard from a few people from "the hood" as well as within the industry that the kid's a lot more savvy than he lets on.  Once again, not to imply that he's not a talented musician.  I like his stuff, it's just that a good story's can always be made to be better, you know?
As far as the "deal" he struck with the big company, I've gotta ask you how many of the beck's post-Mellow Gold releases have been released freelance-style on any smaller label?  Made a fucking great press release, didn't it?  remember the bongload/geffen fiasco around the time of Mutations?  How about the Golden Feelings recall last month?  big money ain't letting the guy do what he feels at all, my friend.  in less what he feels like doing is sucking the corporate crack pipe...

Imagine if you will, the Dust Bros. and Ween...  Sounds a lot more interesting, eh?

Moanin Lisa

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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elPhantasma wrote:
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> For my money, Beck has ALWAYS taken his primary cues from Ween.

And a big "GIMME A FUCKIN' BREAK!" to that one!!! ;-)

Everyone is totally entitled to their own opinion.

Lisa

J

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Stereopathetic Soul Manure, One Foot In the Grave

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bastad

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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These are the only acceptable Beck albums to date.

Rev. J. Thaddius Toad

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:02:13 GMT, elPhantasma <mer...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>For my money, Beck has ALWAYS taken his primary cues from Ween. How this has escaped widespred notice is beyond me. Or maybe I'm just


>high. Most of Midnite Vultures is slickly-produced soulful Ween. I'm not knocking it as I enjoy it all the same, I just have a feeling
>that if the Bros. had ever been serviced w/biglabelmoney production values, that they'd be huge! (selfishly speaking, glad they're
>not....)

Actually, Ween & Beck's roots are very different, even though they did
end up in very similar musical territory. Beck started off playing
folk music in LA, in the tradition of Leadbelly, Brownie McGhee/Sonny
Terry, Woody Guthrie etc. Ween were a couple of bourgeois boys
entertaining themselves and their friends, which shows in the sharper
edge to their humour.

columbia news server

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Jan 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/19/00
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There was a rumor way back about Ween being asked to do a cover of "Loser"
for an Elektra compilation called "One Hit Wonders"... I craved that but I
guess it got scrapped when they found out he was a two-hit wonder.

J

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Jan 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/19/00
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Yeah, I find that hilarious how people with mainstream musical taste
listened to mellow gold and thought 'Loser' was the only good song.

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Koktavy, Peter J.

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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columbia news server <jbro...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> There was a rumor way back about Ween being asked to do a cover of "Loser"
> for an Elektra compilation called "One Hit Wonders"... I craved that but
I
> guess it got scrapped when they found out he was a two-hit wonder.

been looking for confirmation on the scrapping myself.

ha...@excite.com (jkeats) actually said he has a promo release w/ ween's
cover of 'loser', but this was the only mention. (maybe one mention of
someone listening to the song before an interview with ween, but i don't
remember the source.) still wondering if it exists....


Maple Machine

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Koktavy, Peter J. wrote in message <388a04c5$0$29...@news.execpc.com>...

>ha...@excite.com (jkeats) actually said he has a promo release w/ ween's
>cover of 'loser', but this was the only mention. (maybe one mention of
>someone listening to the song before an interview with ween, but i don't
>remember the source.) still wondering if it exists....
>
>


Taken from Raygun magazine No. 47 June/July: This excerpt was proceeded by
the author of the article on Ween and Deaner listening to some demos,
b-sides and out-takes:

He finds a Nashville country album session tape of the Jordanaires working
out "Powder Blue," which he plays for a few minutes. He even offers up
another track which "will never, ever come out." It's a cover of Beck's
"Loser," so twisted only the author himself would probably enjoy it,
recorded for a "One Hit Wonders" theme compilation which a major label
organized, then cancelled. "Obviously, the joke isn't funny anymore." In
fact, Beck is honestly one of the few contemporaries for whom Ween now have
any respect.

jbrodkey

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Jan 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/24/00
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Waaa!!! Waaa!!!
Those are real tears, I promise.
Anyway, if anyone can come up with a copy of this track that will "never
come out" I'd be glad to take a copy off their hands.
Thanks
jason


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> Taken from Raygun magazine No. 47 June/July: This excerpt was proceeded
by
> the author of the article on Ween and Deaner listening to some demos,
> b-sides and out-takes:
>

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