Sammy Hagar vs Ace Frehley
IGB
Who is the better songwriter?
Lets compare songs by these two
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Sam I am
by sammy hagar
===============
Well...
I tried to be your paperboy,
Tried to be your boy scout,
Tried to be your ice cream man
I could not be your soldier
Or even drive your bus
My skills aren't always inobvious
Well, I hope you understand,
I'm doin' the best I can.
I ain't no perfect man, but...
Sam I Am!
{Chorus}
I'm a bad-talkin' fighter!
Silver bullet rider!
I'm a flip-flop strider!
A guitar moonlighter!
I'm a through it all nighter!
Your Holy Ghost Rider!
A little shade whiter!
I'm the rock and roll driver, yeah!
Oh, yeah...that's all I am!
Tried to be your oil man,
Tried to be your big boss,
Tried to be your broker,
But ya took a loss...huh!
It's just a hopeless case,
And I ain't no lawyer.
I only got a few tricks I can show ya.
And, I hope you understand,
I do the best I can.
I ain't no Superman, but...
Sam I Am!
{Chorus}
And, I'm a feel-good doctor!
Big bad talker!
After midnight walker!
Sittin' on the bay docker!
I'm a sunshine stalker!
A heavy-weight watcher!
Heavens, door knocker!
Blue, White and Red Rocker!
Oh, Yeah! Oh, Yeah! That's all I am.
I tried to be everything to you,
Yeah, but it would not do.
You're nothing on my resume,
But I can rock you, and roll you,
Each and every day.
Have mercy on me,
I am not sorry.
Believe me, it's easy.
I do my best to be a straight-shot shooter!
A Bad Motor Scooter!
Sunny honeymooner!
Your heavy metal crooner!
Make you wanna holler!
Shirt with no collar!
Just a couple inches taller!
White, Blue and Red Rocker!
Oh, Yeah! Oh, Yeah!
I said, Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
That's all I am, that's all I am,
Baby, Baby, Baby...
Sam I Am.
============
Ozone
by Ace Frehley
===============
I'm the kind of guy who likes feelin' high
Feelin' high and dry, and i really like to fly
I'm your kinda guy, girl i'm not too shy
And i want you to fly, so i think you oughta try
Ozone, ozone, ozone, ozone
I'm your kinda guy and i'm not too shy
Feelin' high and dry, and i want you to be mine
So i think it's time, girl, to start feeling fine
Feeling good all the time, so i think you oughta try
Ozone, ozone, ozone, ozone
Now i'm the kinda guy who likes getting high
Getting high and dry, and i do it all the time
If you think it's a crime and you don't wanna try
Something that'll make you high, then i think i'll say goodbye
'cos i'm the kind of guy who likes getting high
Getting high and dry, and i do it all the time
Now i'm much too high, i am high and dry
And i'm feelin' fine, i'm feelin' good all of the time... (to fade)
The Chris
$hC.330@trnddc08:
If you want a *real* answer... Hagar... hands down. He's a stellar
player. I saw his 1980 Street Machine Tour, and he just wailed....
His licks won't be remembered as fondly as Ace's. He won't have as many
people call him an inspiration, but he was the better technical player.
mcquest...@yahoo.com
> "IGB" <italiangre...@noitaliaspam.com> wrote in news:%X0Tf.878
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> > Who is the better guitar player?
> >
> > Who is the better songwriter?
This probably wasn't intended for a serious answer, but I'd also say
Sam is better hands down in a general sense. I'd take his Montrose
stuff like "Good Rockin' Tonight", "Bad Motor Scooter" and "Rock Candy"
any day over any of Ace's tunes, not to mention his work with Van
Halen. Ace's Kiss solo record was really good and I have it in my car
somewhere, but I can only take them for a short period of time, while
some of Sam's stuff (solo and VH) I can listen to over and over again.
Ace is probably the better guitarist, but I don't think by much. He's a
big influence on young guitarists, but more for the makeup and smoking
pickups then anything else. Sam is by far the better singer.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I'll gladly go on record (and take
the slings and arrows that come with it) and say that I think Sammy
Hagar has one of the best rock singing voices in the history of the
medium. Sure, you have to take a slice of cheese with some of his
tunes, but the same can be said of most rock bands and singers. Back in
the day when I was auditioning singers for my (failed) band, I wanted a
guy who had a voice like Hagar, a hell of a yeller who could actually
carry a tune. Unfortunately, all I got were guys that sounded like air
raid sirens.
Ace has a cool voice, or at least he used to, but his songs? Oh man,
other than that handful on his solo record from the Kiss days, none of
the rest impressed me. I bought the first few Frehley's comet releases,
and was completely unimpressed. He seemed to have one good solo
record's worth of tunes in him, and he blew his wad back then.
McQ
The Chris
@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Actually, I'd say your unpopular opinion is that ACE is a better
guitarist.... I mean, I'm an Ace fanatic, but even I know his limits.
You don't think you'd pick up any tips from playing with Eddie Van Halen
for years and years?? Have you heard any of the VH bootlegs with the
deuling solos???
Granted, it's all subjective, but, for as much as I hate what Sammy did
to VH, his guitar playing wasn't to blame..
Rushgedlife
>Montrose stuff like "Good Rockin' Tonight", "Bad Motor
>Scooter" and "Rock Candy"
The first Montrose album is an all-time classic, as well as very
influential. Great stuff. Van Halen used to play songs from it during
their LA club days. I find myself listening to their second release
("Paper Money") more often than the debut. "Connection" and "I Got The
Fire" are great songs. The title track is pretty good too.
I'm guessing KISS are fans of Montrose as well. They used to play "Rock
The Nation" and "Bad Motor Scooter" immediately before they came on
stage during the 2003/2204 World Domination and 2004 "Rock The Nation"
tours. Their live 2005 DVD is called "Rock The Nation". I know Paul
Stanley's a big fan. He (as well as Hagar) are contributing vocals to
the new Montrose album.
>Ace's Kiss solo record was really good and I have it in
>my car somewhere
The one from the late 70's? I bought that one on vinyl. Still have it
somewhere. Don't remember too much about it. New York Groove was pretty
good.
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"The first album by the original lineup of Montrose is one of my
all-time favorites."
- Paul Stanley
Rich
"Rushgedlife" <rushg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> mcquestion5...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>Montrose stuff like "Good Rockin' Tonight", "Bad Motor
>>Scooter" and "Rock Candy"
>
> The first Montrose album is an all-time classic, as well as very
> influential. Great stuff. Van Halen used to play songs from it during
> their LA club days.
Proof ?? or are you just claiming you know ?
Please show us the bootlegs with montrose covers on them.
Otherwise shut up and stop lying.
> I'm guessing KISS are fans of Montrose as well. They used to play "Rock
> The Nation" and "Bad Motor Scooter" immediately before they came on
> stage during the 2003/2204 World Domination and 2004 "Rock The Nation"
> tours. Their live 2005 DVD is called "Rock The Nation". I know Paul
> Stanley's a big fan. He (as well as Hagar) are contributing vocals to
> the new Montrose album.
Yes you are guessing, its what you do. Kiss fans dont even know
who the fuck montrose are, sorry, were.
Nobody knows who they were apart from a handful of yanks.
Go outside your country little man, it's a big world out there.
Rich
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> "Rushgedlife" <rushg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> mcquestion5...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>Montrose stuff like "Good Rockin' Tonight", "Bad Motor
>>>Scooter" and "Rock Candy"
>>
>> The first Montrose album is an all-time classic, as well as very
>> influential. Great stuff. Van Halen used to play songs from it during
>> their LA club days.
>
> Proof ?? or are you just claiming you know ?
> Please show us the bootlegs with montrose covers on them.
> Otherwise shut up and stop lying.
>
http://www.vhboots.com/gazzaris74.html
Track listing:
1.. Hallelujah (Deep Purple cover) 0:42
2.. Maybe I'm A Leo (Deep Purple cover) 2:58
3.. We All Had A Real Good Time (Edgar Winter cover) 3:06
4.. Walk Away (Joe Walsh cover) 4:52
5.. Can't Get Enough (Bad Company cover) 4:25
6.. If You Can't Rock Me (Rolling Stones cover) 3:04
7.. Might Just Take Your Life (Deep Purple cover) 3:53
8.. Make It Last (Montrose cover) 6:10
Rich
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> "Rich" <u...@uno.com> wrote in message news:441dd468$1...@news1.veridas.net...
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>> "Rushgedlife" <rushg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1142796539.8...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>> mcquestion5...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Montrose stuff like "Good Rockin' Tonight", "Bad Motor
>>>>Scooter" and "Rock Candy"
>>>
>>> The first Montrose album is an all-time classic, as well as very
>>> influential. Great stuff. Van Halen used to play songs from it during
>>> their LA club days.
>>
>> Proof ?? or are you just claiming you know ?
>> Please show us the bootlegs with montrose covers on them.
>> Otherwise shut up and stop lying.
>>
>
> http://www.vhboots.com/gazzaris74.html
>
> Track listing:
> 1.. Hallelujah (Deep Purple cover) 0:42
> 2.. Maybe I'm A Leo (Deep Purple cover) 2:58
> 3.. We All Had A Real Good Time (Edgar Winter cover) 3:06
> 4.. Walk Away (Joe Walsh cover) 4:52
> 5.. Can't Get Enough (Bad Company cover) 4:25
> 6.. If You Can't Rock Me (Rolling Stones cover) 3:04
> 7.. Might Just Take Your Life (Deep Purple cover) 3:53
> 8.. Make It Last (Montrose cover) 6:10
>
Is that all you have ? Thats not proof of what the idiot said.
Pyro Messiah
Well this KISS fan is fully aware of Montrose, and I'm sure there are
others. I'm not a huge fan, but they have some stuff I like.
Rushgedlife
>If you want a *real* answer... Hagar... hands down.
>He's a stellar player. I saw his 1980 Street Machine
>Tour, and he just wailed....
Agreed.
Hagar as a guitarist is very underrated.
I actually feel a little sorry for Ace.
I remember that Family Guy episode where he keeps interjecting
inappropriate sayings like "My Grand Slam was supposed to be with
sausage." and "Rock and Roll!".
Freakin' hilarious (Eddie better be careful, he's heading down the
parody path himself).
p.s. What's Ace been up to? Last I heard he was working on a new album.
Hagar's got a new album coming out in a couple months and he's going
out on tour (Michael Anthony is tagging along as a special guest for
many of the gigs). Hagar's playing a lot of surprisingly huge venues.
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Q: You list your influences as Sammy Hagar and Ace Frehley.
I find that to be a very interesting combination. What is it about
these two musicians that you like so much?
A: Those are the first concerts I ever saw. It's the first time that I
ever saw bands live. I had never seen anything like Sammy Hagar.
He came out opening for Boston. All he did was run around like
Angus Young and his songs were great. He learned to play from
Montrose, and I like his style; it was just these hammer-ons and
pull-offs, and the pentatonic scale. He's not as good as Ronnie
Montrose or anything but?
Q: But he wasn't trying for that anyway. He was just rock n roll.
A: Yeah, and he sang...like unbelievable. And I like his songs; he
always rocked! He has a great voice and he rocked.
- Reb Beach
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Q: You have only 5 albums you can listen to for the rest of
your life. What are they? (no greatest hits, box sets or live
albums):
1) Montrose/Montrose
2) Led Zeppelin/ II
3) Billion Dollar Babies/Alice Cooper
4) QUEEN/QUEEN II
5) BEATLES/White Album
- Eric Singer (KISS, Black Sabbath, Badlands, Gary Moore)
Steamer
> I actually feel a little sorry for Ace.
> I remember that Family Guy episode where he keeps interjecting
> inappropriate sayings like "My Grand Slam was supposed to be with
> sausage." and "Rock and Roll!".
> Freakin' hilarious (Eddie better be careful, he's heading down the
> parody path himself).
>
Ace and Peter did not do their voices on those Family Guy episodes; unknowns
voiced them. Only Gene and Paul did their own voices.
> p.s. What's Ace been up to? Last I heard he was working on a new album.
Ace had been saying for many years that he's been working on a new album, so
frankly I don't expect it to surface in this lifetime. However, he has
apparently been sober and healthy for a couple years now, so one can only
hope he will actually release something.
--
"If you're looking for it mellow, you're nothing more than yellow."
- Judas Priest
The Chris
I've heard 'Tush' and 'Sweet Emotion' on VH Boots.... I don't even know
if I'd catch a Montrose cover if I heard it... I think the only things I
have are 'Jump on it' and 'Open Fire' - long after he went...
The Chris
>>
> Wow, one bootleg with one song.
> Is that all you have ? Thats not proof of what the idiot said.
Give the guy a break. If you did a search on the site for 'Montrose', you'd
easily see that there's a few more. And that's just a bootleg site....
There are probably many shows that weren't taped....
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=montrose&sp-p=any&sp-a=00051c10-
sp00000000
The Chris
Wow - that's wild! Nice site!
Gene Italia
"Rich" <u...@uno.com> wrote in message news:441ddc13$1...@news1.veridas.net...
Thats rushgedmario for you. He never proves anything, just changes the
subject.
I wouldnt know a Montrose song if I heard it. Who names a song Bad motor
scooter anyway?
Gene Italia
<mcquest...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Chris wrote:
> It may be an unpopular opinion, but I'll gladly go on record (and take
> the slings and arrows that come with it) and say that I think Sammy
> Hagar has one of the best rock singing voices in the history of the
> medium.
Holy crap!
Sammy sounds like a chick.
Robert Plant has the best overall voice. Roth has the most macho voice.
Thats why when Vh got the chick Sammy Hagar to sing their songs went to soft
pop style.
Gene Simmons live is like the Godfather with a sore throat.
Gene Italia
Gene Italia
Mariovh aka "Rushgedlife" <rushg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "The Chris" wrote:
>
>>If you want a *real* answer... Hagar... hands down.
>>He's a stellar player. I saw his 1980 Street Machine
>>Tour, and he just wailed....
>
> Agreed.
> Hagar as a guitarist is very underrated.
>
No hes not.
Heres his new album cover titled
Ronald McClown takes on Washington
mcquest...@yahoo.com
> Holy crap!
>
> Sammy sounds like a chick.
In your opinion. Hey, like who you like. You ain't gonna change my mind
any more than I'm gonna change yours. So have a nice day.
> Robert Plant has the best overall voice. Roth has the most macho voice.
Again, your opinion. You're welcome to it. I love both those singers as
well.
> Thats why when Vh got the chick Sammy Hagar to sing their songs went to soft
> pop style.
Great. Have a nice day.
> Gene Simmons live is like the Godfather with a sore throat.
I can't argue with that.
McQ
Gene Italia
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> Gene Italia wrote:
>
>> Holy crap!
>>
>> Sammy sounds like a chick.
>
> In your opinion. Hey, like who you like. You ain't gonna change my mind
> any more than I'm gonna change yours. So have a nice day.
Of course my opinon.
Im not trying to change anybodys mind.
No, YOU have a nice day
Tattoo Vampire
shotgunned a beer and wrote:
> Ace and Peter did not do their voices on those Family Guy episodes; unknowns
> voiced them. Only Gene and Paul did their own voices.
Isn't it pretty sad when the scabs can't even be seen in a fucking CARTOON
that concerns Kiss?
--
Regards,
[tv]
..."6, uh... what was that number again?": Number of the Blonde Beast
Tattoo Vampire
shotgunned a beer and wrote:
> Robert Plant has the best overall voice. Roth has the most macho voice.
Wrong and wrong.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.
Howard
> Is that all you have ? Thats not proof of what the idiot said.
Um, yes it is.
Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning Rich?
Rich
"Howard" <h...@dk.com> wrote in message news:dvlr39$210$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
No it's little proof at all.
he said "Van Halen used to play songs from it during
their LA club days."
And all that can be found is one song on one bootleg.
You dont know rush, he exagerrates everything in order to make
sammy look like a legend. Im just bored and thought I would
pick him up on a few lies and common fanatical exagerrations.
Steamer
> Steamer hitched up their overalls,
> shotgunned a beer and wrote:
>
>> Ace and Peter did not do their voices on those Family Guy episodes; unknowns
>> voiced them. Only Gene and Paul did their own voices.
>
> Isn't it pretty sad when the scabs can't even be seen in a fucking CARTOON
> that concerns Kiss?
I could be wrong, but I think those episodes were made when Ace and Peter
were in the band but weren't aired for a couple of years due to the show's
on-again, off-again history with Fox.
sandman89
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I'll gladly go on record (and take
the slings and arrows that come with it) and say that I think Sammy
Hagar has one of the best rock singing voices in the history of the
medium. Sure, you have to take a slice of cheese with some of his tunes,
but the same can be said of most rock bands and singers.
### imo, VH lucked out with both dave and sam. each guy did a really
good job. now for my money, robin zander of cheap trick has the best
rock voice out there and still does to this day. he can pull off the
ballads and the rockers equally well and surprisingly, he's the 2nd most
intense singer i've seen, behind henry rollins.
the best female rock vocal was stevie nicks but unfortunately her voice
is trashed these days.
"I am not a tough guy. I'm a tough negotiator. But outside of that, I'm
a patsy."
-Sumner Redstone, CEO of Viacom
sandman89
The first Montrose album is an all-time classic, as well as very
influential. Great stuff. Van Halen used to play songs from it during
their LA club days. I find myself listening to their second release
("Paper Money") more often than the debut. "Connection" and "I Got The
Fire" are great songs. The title track is pretty good too.
### montrose's debut was indeed great, even if t had just 8 songs. i've
been meaning to check out paper money for the longest time but haven't
gotten around to picking it up.
sandman89
Give the guy a break. If you did a search on the site for 'Montrose',
you'd easily see that there's a few more. And that's just a bootleg
site.... There are probably many shows that weren't taped....
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=montrose&sp-p=any&sp-a=00051c10-
sp00000000
### you'll have to excuse rich. he's 1 of the resident punching bags
here and he's australian, so he's a little..."slow".
mcquest...@yahoo.com
To me it sounded like you were stating fact, but that's the internet
for you.
"Im not trying to change anybodys mind."
That's great.
NO, YOU HAVE A NICE DAY!
McQ
TB
>>
>> http://www.vhboots.com/gazzaris74.html
>>
>> Track listing:
>> 1.. Hallelujah (Deep Purple cover) 0:42
>> 2.. Maybe I'm A Leo (Deep Purple cover) 2:58
>> 3.. We All Had A Real Good Time (Edgar Winter cover) 3:06
>> 4.. Walk Away (Joe Walsh cover) 4:52
>> 5.. Can't Get Enough (Bad Company cover) 4:25
>> 6.. If You Can't Rock Me (Rolling Stones cover) 3:04
>> 7.. Might Just Take Your Life (Deep Purple cover) 3:53
>> 8.. Make It Last (Montrose cover) 6:10
>>
> Wow, one bootleg with one song.
> Is that all you have ? Thats not proof of what the idiot said.
They also played Montrose's "Rock Candy" during their pre- 1978 club days.
T.B.
Gene Italia
"howldog" <no...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:32:49 +1000, "Rich" <u...@uno.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> Please show us the bootlegs with montrose covers on them.
>>>> Otherwise shut up and stop lying.
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.vhboots.com/gazzaris74.html
>>>
>>> Track listing:
>>> 1.. Hallelujah (Deep Purple cover) 0:42
>>> 2.. Maybe I'm A Leo (Deep Purple cover) 2:58
>>> 3.. We All Had A Real Good Time (Edgar Winter cover) 3:06
>>> 4.. Walk Away (Joe Walsh cover) 4:52
>>> 5.. Can't Get Enough (Bad Company cover) 4:25
>>> 6.. If You Can't Rock Me (Rolling Stones cover) 3:04
>>> 7.. Might Just Take Your Life (Deep Purple cover) 3:53
>>> 8.. Make It Last (Montrose cover) 6:10
>>>
>>Wow, one bootleg with one song.
>
>
> its not a perfect world, and assholes like you continue to ruin the
> VanHalen group.
>
>
Rushgedmariodley ruined the group years ago. stfu
Rushgedlife
>> 8.. Make It Last (Montrose cover) 6:10
>
>They also played Montrose's "Rock Candy" during their
>pre- 1978 club days.
Thanks TB, I think even ChunderRich will defer to your expertise.
For our new "rec.music.artists.kiss" friends, TB is our resident expert
on early VH.
He saw them in the club days and has even contributed to a VH book ("VH
Encyclopedia", I believe).
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"I loved Sammy Hagar on that first Montrose album; I think it's one of
the greatest rock records ever made."
"I always thought he was a great singer but I thought his situation in
Montrose was the best thing he ever had. It really is one of the
greatest records ever made."
- Billy Sheehan
Gene Italia
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### you'll have to excuse rich. he's 1 of the resident punching bags
here and he's australian, so he's a little..."slow".
\\\\\\\\\\\\
A webtv user calling someone slow?
ROTFL
Rich owns your ass
Rushgedlife
>> The Chris wrote:
>>
>> Give the guy a break. If you did a search on the site for
>> 'Montrose', you'd easily see that there's a few more. And
>> that's just a bootleg site.... There are probably many shows
>> that weren't taped....
>
>### you'll have to excuse rich. he's 1 of the resident punching
>bags here and he's australian, so he's a little..."slow".
I think they've already figured it out :)
>### montrose's debut was indeed great, even if t had just 8 songs.
>i've been meaning to check out paper money for the longest time
>but haven't gotten around to picking it up.
Go for it. You can pick it up pretty cheap.
Definitely worth it.
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"Great live cover (I've Got the Fire). We were all great Montrose fans
at the time - a classic B-side. This was from the second Montrose
album 'Paper Money'."
- Rod Smallwood (Iron Maiden manager - from the best of B'Sides album
booklet)
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"It was in a pub called the Prince of Wales in Gravesend, Kent. I was
playing with a band called Shots and we'd been doing pubs for a while
and we were doing a mixture of our own stuff and covers like old
Montrose covers"
- Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)
Rushgedlife
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From: Pyro Messiah
Newsgroups: rec.music.artists.kiss
Subject: Re: Sammy Hagar vs Ace Frehley
Date: 20 Mar 2006
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:16:06 GMT, "Gene Italia"
<italiangreaseb...@noitaliaspam.com> wrote:
>
><mcquestion5...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1142781036.1...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> The Chris wrote:
>> It may be an unpopular opinion, but I'll gladly go on record (and take
>> the slings and arrows that come with it) and say that I think Sammy
>> Hagar has one of the best rock singing voices in the history of the
>> medium.
>
>
>Holy crap!
>
>Sammy sounds like a chick.
I'm glad nobody I ever dated sounded like that. Kind of a scary
thought that you know women who sound like Sammy.
>
>Robert Plant has the best overall voice. Roth has the most macho voice.
Macho? As flamboyant as Roth is, I never associated anything he did
as "macho".
>
>Thats why when Vh got the chick Sammy Hagar to sing their songs went
>to soft pop style.
>
>Gene Simmons live is like the Godfather with a sore throat.
>
The way Gene forgets lyrics, I think of him more like Corky from Life
Goes On with a sore throat.
Rushgedlife
>Ace and Peter did not do their voices on those Family
>Guy episodes; unknowns voiced them. Only Gene and
>Paul did their own voices.
I remember they also appeared on a Family Guy Christmas show episode
("KISS Saves Santa").
Pretty cool stuff.
Hagar and VH appeared on an episode of The Simpson's (Willie Nelson was
trying to reunite them).
p.s. KISS was going to perform at Rock-Fest with Hagar this year, but I
guess they canceled some dates and are touring Europe instead.
=====
Q: Did you ever notice any similarities in your first album and Van
Halen's?
A: Oh yeah, Eddie is quoted as saying that he specifically went
to Ted Templeman and told him that they loved the Montrose
album, and that's why they wanted him to produce it. They loved
Ted's ears, and his production chops, and Don Landee's ears.
- Ronnie Montrose
Gene Italia
> TB wrote:
>
>>> 8.. Make It Last (Montrose cover) 6:10
>>
>>They also played Montrose's "Rock Candy" during their
>>pre- 1978 club days.
>
> Thanks TB, I think even ChunderRich will defer to your expertise.
> For our new "rec.music.artists.kiss" friends, TB is our resident expert
> on early VH.
> He saw them in the club days and has even contributed to a VH book ("VH
> Encyclopedia", I believe).
Look at Rushgedly suck up to TB right after he said TB was wrong on a few
things a couple days ago.
ROTFL
>
> =====
>
> "I loved Sammy Hagar on that first Montrose album; I think it's one of
> the greatest rock records ever made."
>
> "I always thought he was a great singer but I thought his situation in
> Montrose was the best thing he ever had. It really is one of the
> greatest records ever made."
>
> - Billy Sheehan
>
Billy sheehan also said Eddie would never have been as big without Roth.
Gene Italia
> Posted by Pyro Messiah (forgot to include AMVH).
>
Haha Rush has to repost shit in desperation.
> =====
>
> From: Pyro Messiah
> Newsgroups: rec.music.artists.kiss
> Subject: Re: Sammy Hagar vs Ace Frehley
> Date: 20 Mar 2006
>
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:16:06 GMT, "Gene Italia"
> <italiangreaseb...@noitaliaspam.com> wrote:
>>
>><mcquestion5...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1142781036.1...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> The Chris wrote:
>>> It may be an unpopular opinion, but I'll gladly go on record (and take
>>> the slings and arrows that come with it) and say that I think Sammy
>>> Hagar has one of the best rock singing voices in the history of the
>>> medium.
>>
>>
>>Holy crap!
>>
>>Sammy sounds like a chick.
>
> I'm glad nobody I ever dated sounded like that. Kind of a scary
> thought that you know women who sound like Sammy.
>
OUCH
Somebody got their feelings hurt
Sammy is your heeewo
No wonder you didnt repost to amvh
ROTFL
Rich
"Gene Italia" <italiang...@noitaliaspam.com> wrote in message
news:IcFTf.6242$wD1.498@trnddc02...
>
> "sandman89" <sand...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:8838-441E...@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net...
>
> ### you'll have to excuse rich. he's 1 of the resident punching bags
> here and he's australian, so he's a little..."slow".
> \\\\\\\\\\\\
>
$$$%%%%***** Oh look at me, my names Sadman, I need to use stupid
signs on my posts so everyone will notice me and read my words of wisdom.
##$#%%%%!!!@@@@@#!!!
We know who the slow one is sunshine, you aint the brightest spark in the
trailer park are you !!
Well done beavis, now get back to cooking rush's dinner.
Gene Italia
> Who is the better guitar player?
>
> Who is the better songwriter?
>
> Who looks more like the Crypt Keeper?
>
Check out these crypt keeper pics of Eddie Van halen hilarious shit
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1947000&ok=true
http://mechapixel.com/graffiti.php?gid=170
and to be fair comments on Sammy Hagar the clown
http://www.abqjournal.com/shock/s_hagar306-19-02.jpg
I wonder if Stem Cell research will find a cure for this ...
Ooof that's the last time I have the ham and cabbage burrito!!
you gotta think, somewhere, even fucking Huey Lewis is laughin' at this guy.
"Dude, I can fit into my old lady's pants. Gotta walk like this cuz I can't
get the legs shut, though."
"I found these pants in a dumpster. Can ya believe it?"
"Are you makin' fun of my Oakley's? Didn't think so."
"Yes, they do make Geranimals for grown-ups. Why else do ya think my shoes
match my shirt so well?"
"Name your dog after this. 'Old 'n' Yeller'"
For a minute there I thought that was a picture of Danny Bonnaduce...
It's gotta be a joke. He must do it to spite everybody -- "You wanna see
what a fucking retard looks like? I'll show you what a retard looks like. A
retard wearing Gidget's capri pants!"
How anybody could purposely look so fucking dumb is beyond me. It's got to
be a gag, or something. God, what a fucking nut.
Rich
> sandman89 wrote:
>
>>> The Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Give the guy a break. If you did a search on the site for
>>> 'Montrose', you'd easily see that there's a few more. And
>>> that's just a bootleg site.... There are probably many shows
>>> that weren't taped....
>>
>>### you'll have to excuse rich. he's 1 of the resident punching
>>bags here and he's australian, so he's a little..."slow".
>
> I think they've already figured it out :)
>
The only things anyone on here has figured out are;
1. You dont have a job.
2. You are meant to be Mr Mom while your wife works flipping burgers.
3. You seem to think Sammy Fucking Hagar is some excellent musician.
When in fact Montrose were pretty much nobodys and only known in the USA
at the time. And VH made a career for sammy (as sad as it was)
4. You are a lonely little boy who has mastered the art of 'googling'
5. You haven't got a damn clue about good music period.
6. You get emotional when you hear Sammys voice, and often
cry with your mums lighter held high in the air.
7. You hate Dave Roth, you're bitter cuz he probably gang banged your mum.
8. You can't accept the fact that this is a VAN HALEN newsgroup,
and guess what ? the majority of Van Halen fans prefer Dave to Sammy.
Yet for 4 years you have tried your best to change peoples minds.
9. You cant accept that VH with DAVE outsold SAMMY by a ratio
of 2:1 - Sorry facts hurt dont they : )
10. You are the newsgroup headcase.
Get a life Jeffou812, move on, theres so much more to do than sit on your
lazy ass
praising a fat talentless poodle.
Bob
What a horrid rant.
--
-Bob
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought
which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
those who don't have it."
- George Bernard Shaw
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Keith Richards
<italiangre...@noitaliaspam.com> wrote:
>Who is the better guitar player?
>
>Who is the better songwriter?
Just flip a coin.
Keith Richards
Fuck, thats funny! Funny because it's true. Thanks for that, Rich.
Peter
Gene Italia wrote:
>
> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1947000&ok=true
>
> http://mechapixel.com/graffiti.php?gid=170
>
Who is that woman in the background?
Peter
Gene Italia
news:1142890320.5...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> =====
>
> "I loved Sammy Hagar on that first Montrose album; I think it's one of
> the greatest rock records ever made."
>
> "I always thought he was a great singer but I thought his situation in
> Montrose was the best thing he ever had. It really is one of the
> greatest records ever made."
>
> - Billy Sheehan
>
RoughEdge.com: Yeah, right on, man. So David Lee Roth is going to be a
paramedic, of all things!
Billy Sheehan: Yeah, I just talked with some people who know him. He's
already delivered a baby and he donates his pay to charity and it's a pretty
cool adventure. As much I know Dave, I know he's doing it just for the
adventure. He doesn't need the money. Here's a guy who's had quadruple,
quintuple platinum records and he's set for life, so why not go out and look
at it from that point-of-view? Actually, my hat's really off to him for
doing that.
RoughEdge.com: Same here.
Billy Sheehan: Pretty cool.
RoughEdge.com: I agree. Did you have any indication when you played with him
that he would one day make such a drastic career move?
Billy Sheehan: I know we used to tell a lot of stories down in the basement
where we were rehearsing and it was an amazing time, you know, some of the
rock stories we heard. Dave, some were related to him, Steve from his Zappa
days, me from my Talas days and all that stuff. Dave, at one time, did work
in an emergency room.
RoughEdge.com: Really?
Billy Sheehan: And his family has a medical background, so he had kind of
been up against that a little bit already. So I think that gave a hint to it
early on.
RoughEdge.com: How about that? That's pretty cool.
Billy Sheehan: Yeah.
RoughEdge.com: Now what I hear people talk about most regarding yourself is
your time with David Lee Roth and Mr. Big of course, and they always wonder
what happened to Billy Sheehan! (laughs)
Billy Sheehan: (laughs)
RoughEdge.com: I tell them to do the homework, you're out there, you know?
Billy Sheehan: Right.
RoughEdge.com: But obviously you and Steve (Vai) were the perfect duo for
Roth and you guys played with such fierce determination as if to stake your
claim at that period of time, like when "Eat 'em and Smile" came out. So how
intense was it living up to such a measure for you guys?
Billy Sheehan: Well, at the time we didn't think of it like that. It was
sheer exuberance. We were so happy to be there and we were having such a
blast and just blowing off every night, you know? We didn't have that kind
of pressure; it really was a fun time. The "Eat 'em and Smile" tour was a
riot! We had certain things we had to do in order to make the show work,
certain things like that, the requirements we had as players, to be on time
and all that stuff. We were never completely irresponsible people ever in
our lives, you know? Steve and I are both non-druggers and we're dedicated
to our craft. So for us it was normal, but for us it was like somebody
opened the door and allowed us not only to be dedicated, but to pay us for
it and allow us to play in front of fifteen to twenty thousand people a
night. So we were exuberant, we were just so pleased to be doing it, and we
were laughing our asses off and having a riot and it was great.
sandman89
Rushgedmariodley ruined the group years ago. stfu
### awww, poor baby. and you're still here= owned.
Pyro Messiah
There, you happy. I'm reposting here. And no, Sammy is far from my
hero. Never bought one of his albums, probably never will.
My point was that I've never heard a woman sound like Sammy. If you
like women who sound like men, more power to you.
Gene Italia
> italiang...@noitaliaspam.com
>
> Rushgedmariodley ruined the group years ago. stfu
>
>
> ### awww, poor baby. and you're still here= owned.
>
Hey the webtv guy is trying to make a flame!
ROTFL
--
"Roth donates his money to charity. He doesn't need the money. Here's a guy
who's had quadruple, quintuple platinum records and he's set for life" -
Billy Sheehan
Gene Italia
news:igpv1290hde5pjs5p...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:25:44 GMT, "Gene Italia"
> <italiang...@noitaliaspam.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I'm glad nobody I ever dated sounded like that. Kind of a scary
>>> thought that you know women who sound like Sammy.
>>>
>>
>>
>>OUCH
>>
>>Somebody got their feelings hurt
>>
>>Sammy is your heeewo
>>
>>
>>No wonder you didnt repost to amvh
>>
>>ROTFL
>>
>
> There, you happy. I'm reposting here.
ROTFL
I got this guy so pissed off hes reposting here now!
Rushgedlife
>I'd take his Montrose stuff like "Good Rockin' Tonight",
>"Bad Motor Scooter" and "Rock Candy" any day over
>any of Ace's tunes, not to mention his work with Van
>Halen.
Have you heard "Through The Fire" by HSAS
(Hagar/Schon/Aaronson/Shrieve)?
It was released on CD a few years back.
Worth checking out.
=====
"Ed (Van Halen) and I used to hang out a lot. I remember one concert in
particular when we played in San Francisco; Ed came with me in my car.
I drove him back to his hotel in the city. We had just finished the
HSAS record and I was playing it to him in his room. He kept on
stopping it and going back and listening to bits and pieces over again.
I could tell he was impressed. He liked Sammy's vocals and he liked the
whole record."
- Neal Schon
The Chris
news:1143455139.6...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
That was more than a few years ago - wasn't it close to 20?? Was that a
full album or an EP?
Sammy released GREAT solo stuff - 'Standing Hampton' 'Street Machine',
'Red', etc. I just didn't like him with VH.
Rushgedlife
>> Have you heard "Through The Fire" by HSAS
>> (Hagar/Schon/Aaronson/Shrieve)?
>
>That was more than a few years ago - wasn't it close
>to 20?? Was that a full album or an EP?
It was originally released back in '84. It was reissued on CD back
around 1997.
It's a full album (9 songs).
Rushgedlife
>Ace and Peter did not do their voices on those Family Guy
>episodes; unknowns voiced them.
Didn't Ace and Peter participate in the Christmas episode (the one that
featured "KISS Saves Santa)?
=====
Through The Fire (1984)
Artist: Hagar/Schon/Aaronson/Shrieve (HSAS)
Sammy Hagar/Neal Schon/Kenny Aaronson/Michael Shrieve
1. Top Of The Rock
2. Missing You
3. Animation
4. Valley Of The Kings
5. Giza
6. Whiter Shade Of Pale
7. Hot And Dirty
8. He Will Understand
9. My Home Town
Only $8.98 from buy.com:
http://www.buy.com/prod/Through_The_Fire/q/loc/109/60010536.html
Steamer
>>Ace and Peter did not do their voices on those Family Guy
>>episodes; unknowns voiced them.
>
> Didn't Ace and Peter participate in the Christmas episode (the one that
> featured "KISS Saves Santa)?
Nope. Even though their names are in the credits, Ace and Peter did not do
their voices in the Christmas episode nor the KISS-stock episode.
--
"If you're looking for it mellow, you're nothing more than yellow."
- Judas Priest
Rushgedlife
>> Didn't Ace and Peter participate in the Christmas
>> episode (the one that featured "KISS Saves Santa)?
>
>Nope. Even though their names are in the credits, Ace
>and Peter did not do their voices in the Christmas episode
>nor the KISS-stock episode.
Thanks, that's what threw me off (their names in the credits).
Also, the fact that Ace was treated a lot better in the Christmas
episode.
=====
"The first album by the original lineup of Montrose
is one of my all-time favorites."
- Paul Stanley
mcquest...@yahoo.com
(Hagar/Schon/Aaronson/Shrieve)?
It was released on CD a few years back.
Worth checking out."
Must have missed this post somehow. Sorry about that. Anyway, yeah I
actually heard of it but never bought it or downloaded it. I might try
it out in the future though.
McQ
mcquest...@yahoo.com
not do
their voices in the Christmas episode nor the KISS-stock episode."
How did they get away with that?
McQ
mcquest...@yahoo.com
(Hagar/Schon/Aaronson/Shrieve)?
It was released on CD a few years back.
Worth checking out."
I just downloaded "Top Of The Rock" a few minutes ago. Pretty good
stuff, reminds me of his early solo work, but the chorus, whoever's
singing backup, man that's grating. Great guitar riff and verse
sections. I've been pretty clear in my appreciation for Montrose and
Sam's early solo work right up to his Van Halen stint. After his VH
career, though, I've been mightily disappointed by Sam's solo stuff.
McQ
steveh99
mcquest...@yahoo.com says...
They can't be any worse then dem "Damn Yankees"