Henry Rollins - I became a big fan of the band and especially their singer, David Lee Roth.
Keith Richards
"What’s the matter, aren’t you having his much goddamn fun all the
time? Cheer up!" This kind of thing can really piss some people off.
In a nutshell, I think the above is a major reason so many love/hate
Roth. There is no middle ground. It's the classic Frank "Grimey"
Grimes vs. Homer Simpson. Sammy Hagar vs. David Lee Roth. Pure
jealousy. Guess who is having all the fun?
I think HR speaks for many DLR fans.
Henry Rollins Book
Do I Come Here Often? (Black Coffee Blues Pt. 2)
David Lee Roth
I spent the 70’s locked in the prison that is school. For some,
school can be a wonderful learning experience. It was for me. I
learned that I truly hated it. The way I got through the ordeal was
with the power of music. I lived for my records. The bands that I was
into came to my rescue. The effect that a good piece of music has upon
me is beyond words. I think that John Coltrane’s music, if used
correctly, could stop war and cure cancer. When Ted Nugent would come
roaring into town, I was there. Ted was the man—a real Rock and Roll
Animal. I can remember being on my feet with barely any room to move
because of all the seats and people, hearing him do "Free For All."
All I wanted to do was wreck shit.
One night, me and my pal Ian McKaye ventured out to see our main
man "The Nuge." We saw an amazing thing happen. The opening band was
up there playing and they weren’t acting like any other opening band.
If you didn’t know any better, you would think that this band was the
band that you were there to see. The guitar player had a thing that I
had never heard anywhere. It was absolutely savage. And then there was
the singer…the guy wasn’t trying to get your attention, he knew he had
it, whether he did or not—whether you liked it or not. There was no
way you would have been able to convince these guys that they weren’t
in total command. They got a mixed reaction between songs. The people
who weren’t going apeshit in their favor were doing so in the opposite
direction. The point is, EVERYONE was going apeshit. By the end the
set, most of us in the crowd were soundly and sonically in favor of
this young Southern California band with their first album out, still
warm from the pressing plant.
Soon after their set was finished, The Motor City Madman took the
stage. Something wasn’t right. It was as if someone had come into his
house and re-arranged all the furniture. Between songs the crowd
started to chant the name of the opening band. At first The Nuge
didn’t seem to care. After a few more songs, the crowd was really
going for it. Ted got pissed off went up to the mic and screamed,
"FUCK VAN HALEN!!!" The rest of the gig was bullshit. Ted had kicked
his own ass and he knew it. Van Halen had blown him off his own stage
and they had so much fun doing it. You knew you had to go get that
record so you could re-live it in your room.
After that night, I became a big fan of the band and especially their
singer, David Lee Roth. I read every interview I could find. The man
never stopped smiling and newer shut his mouth. He was always enjoying
himself, or so it seemed. People I knew who didn’t usually voice their
opinions always had an opinion about that guy. Either they were into
Dave or they wanted to punch that grin right off his face. I could see
why a lot of people hated his guts. His band kicked ass, he looked
great, you knew that he was rich and getting down with beautiful
women. He talked loud, he was funny and very smart. He knew that he
was the ringmaster in the greatest show on earth. One thing that I
knew infuriated people was that he was in such good physical shape but
would never talk about the long hours of training it takes to build
and maintain a body like that.
"I used to run but the ice kept falling out of my glass."—This is
basically saying that looking this great and kicking this much ass is
no problem.
"What’s the matter, aren’t you having his much goddamn fun all the
time? Cheer up!" This kind of thing can really piss some people off.
"Don’t give me shit pal…I’ll fuck your girlfriend!" The man is one of
my heroes. A few years after my introduction to Van and the Man, I was
singing in a band myself. Dave became a different kind of inspiration
because now it was I who got to go out and unleash the beast every
night. I now understood where that big shit eating grin came from. It
came from totally blowing all opening bands and audiences away. The
hairier it gets, the wider you grin. Fuck ‘em.
I used to get so much shit from people for being into the guy.
People telling me that he was a clown, or that he was sexist. I always
countered my opinion that he was into being a showman and if he was
down with the ladies, more power to him. Hell, I wish it was me.
Sexist? Give me a break with that bullshit. People would always ask me
how I could identify with this guy. I told them that I identified with
the rage in the music and the delivery. Looking around at what was
happening then, you want to talk about rage and power, pure fury, the
first Van Halen album makes Johnny Rotten out to be what he really was
and still is, a hairdresser. While writing this article, the first VH
CD is in its third play. That record is, I don’t know how many years
old, and it wipes the floor with most records coming out these days.
For several years, world tours and six awesome albums, Van Halen
destroyed the earth and everybody who went to the show had a damn good
time. I know I did. Dave dressed the sets and choreographed all the
moves. "If all the world’s a stage, I want better lighting." Their
sixth record 1984 was their best seller. I played that one at hard
volume this morning and yes, it makes ALL of these MTV dudes pale.
Poison? I’m supposed to be into that? Get the fuck out of here.
Speaking of getting the fuck out, Roth quit Van Halen and from the
interviews, it wasn’t very clean split. To say that there were some
hard feelings would be approaching it. In the meantime, the band hired
on a new singer. Sammy Hagar, one of the most incredible turn-offs
known to mankind—diabolical.
Around the same time Dave split from the band, the band I was in
broke up. I was either going to destroy or sink. Right on time, Dave’s
first solo album Eat ’em and Smile hit the racks. It was a good shot
in the arm. Soon I was in the studio doing my first solo record. I
played Dave’s record all the time. The first song on it is so great.
"Yankee Rose"—so crass and thunderous. "…Guess who’s back in
circulation, now I don’t know what you may have heard, but what I need
right now is the original good time girl…"
Dave was now the underdog, out on his own. The LP and Dave
garnered all kinds of awards in Rolling Stone: Worst LP, Dressed and
Male Vocalist. Awesome. Everybody had an opinion. It made me pull for
him even more. I saw the tour, the second of two nights at the
Inglewood Forum. It was so cool. He came out and introduced himself,
"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DAVID LEE ROTH!!!" and then fire, lights,
explosions and the set started. What a crass motherfucker. What if you
could do that kind of thing when you went into restaurants and
funerals. Make no mistake, he and the band kicked ass that night.
Dave is part huckster, part Al Jolson. A song and dance man. He
might not be on the cover of every rock magazine like he used to be,
but no one lasts in that arena forever. He lasted longer and better
than a lot of them. I am not going to name names, but looking at the
trades and listening to what’s out there, I think it best to leave the
mag covers to these new guys who grew up listening to him. What the
hell.
When I caught up with Dave, he was on a break from shooting film
for his next video. Dave is high--high energy, high impact. He takes
his fun seriously. "Yes, I take what I do very seriously…it’s what
everybody thinks about what I doing that I don’t take seriously." At
first, I was nervous about talking with him. That didn’t last long
though, he had me laughing too fast.
When not onstage or in the studio, Dave has been known to punctuate
his life with voyages to distant locales to deal up close and personal
with the terrain and its inhabitants. Such journeys include trips to
New Guinea, the Amazon River and most recently, a trek through the
Himalayas as well as a kayak mission in the South Pacific. These
experiences give him a perspective that you might not get here in
town. Take it Dave:
"Here in the city, not getting eaten by something is down around
number twenty-eight on your priority list…when you’re deep water
kayaking in the South Pacific, not getting eaten suddenly up around
two or three…This is healthy."
I ask Dave about the steaming jungles of New Guinea, where the
paper on your passport rots right there in your hand. He told me about
seeing a three day dance ceremony called a "Sing-Sing," where tribes
from all over come and try to outdance each other. It’s a big
throw-down, a party out in the jungle to see who has the scariest
looking crew. Dave described it as "Christmas and the Tet Offensive
rolled into one." After dealing with that for a few days where "the
breakfast of champions isn’t cereal, it’s the opposition," a stadium
show in front of fifty thousand people is not really anything to get
nervous about. This is perspective.
I hit Dave with a quote of his, a thing that I had been doing all
night (I am a well-versed Rothologist).
"Dave, I read in an interview that you said your main motivation for
performing was ‘Fear and revenge.’ That was a while ago, how about
these days?"
"I was very competitive then, with the powers that be. I still make
the joke which I got from John Wayne in ‘The Alamo’ ‘There’s a lot of
pretenders to the throne here, we can’t stop them from coming on, but
we can arrange for them to limp home.’ I always took that to heart. I
had something to prove. There was a lot of rage there, a lot of fury,
and a lot of fun and celebrations along the way. After a while I
realized that I would never be happy unless I was doing it for myself
and not doing things to compete, not even concerning myself with it
because I don’t consider myself a part of any specific musical group.
It’s not heavy metal, it’s not pop, although there’s elements of both.
It’s not purely vaudeville or big band yet those elements are intact.
I used to be worried about what it is. Now I don’t care, I guess it’s
the difference between the way Tom Selleck and Marlon Brando act. One
is a result-oriented performance and the other is just being it."
"We take the Honda principle which is, ‘If two is good then five is
better,’ and we go with the Cecil B. DeMille kind of vision, with a
cast of thousands or as many as we can afford. Most of the characters
in my films are passive, se you really are drawn into the scene. There
are layers to it so you can watch these videos fifty times and find
things in the background. It takes up a long time to put one of these
together—roughly about a month and a half. You have one inspiration at
5:30 in the morning in some after-hours dive on the East Coast and you
spend the next four and a half weeks getting up at 5:30 in the morning
trying to make it transpire onto the screen just like you dreamt it
between your ears or in your pants as the case may be—the visceral
stuff’s even harder to get up there."
Dave and the band have been hitting the bricks almost every night,
practicing over and over the songs that they will take on tour. "It’s
a labor of love. If you’re in this for things other than the music—and
we’re all in this for things other than the music… The guy who said
that money can’t buy happiness didn’t know where to go shopping. I’m
not ruling out greed and avarice at all. But if those things are
higher up on the list for you than the music, the whole parade will
pale for you in the hundredth hour of vocal practice."
So where does this guy get off? Probably more often than most.
"My whole thing is based on—and this is for me, mind you—that you
have to discipline yourself, and through his discipline will come some
level of achievement, and from this achievement will come your pride.
There’s nothing else but pride in all of this. The money comes and
goes, the women come and go—but your pride can remain. It’s pride that
gets John Lee Hooker up the hill. It’s pride brought Muhammad Ali
back, It got Quayle elected to Vice President. Absolutely I’m not a
supporter there, but I can salute the pride."
When the David Lee Roth band hit the road, they bring the gear:
bicycles, cross-country skis, mountain climbing equipment.
"What we call it in the basement, in slang, is ‘expert sportsman,
world class mountaineering athletic type,’ the medical term in Latin
is ‘Fun-Hog.’ I’m not good at any of it, but hey, we do dozens of
things. To me, music always has to look like it sounds. Whatever that
means to you, it should transpire. I like to use a lot of knees and
elbows."
Dave relates how he and some of the crew go for long bike rides
in cities on tour. They don’t worry about remembering which way they
went, they just go and when they are ready to quit, they call the
hotel and get the courtesy van to bring them in. Sometimes Dave and
Company have ended up in some ‘hoods that made the hotels downright
nervous. Many nights on the tour, Dave and a handful of fellow
Fun-Hogs will get in his bus and drive overnight to the next town
where they will hook up with local climbers and spend the time before
soundcheck repelling of the local range. Sometimes they hit it five
days straight. "You’re dropping dead, but hey, you did it."
Our talk went from New Guinea to Erie, Pennsylvania, from mountain
climbing to meeting James Brown, videos, all kinds of stuff. It was
great. I left feeling good. I told the cab driver that I had just
spent the evening hanging with Diamond Dave. The guy lit up, looked
into the rearview and said, "Day-veed Lee Roth! Cally-for-nee-ya
gurr-ells!"
mcquest...@yahoo.com
record is, I don't know how many years old, and it wipes the floor
with most records coming out these days."
How sad is it that he's right?
McQ
blahblahblah
"Keith Richards" <k...@nospammers.com> wrote in message
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> HR made this observation about DLR's outlook:
>
> "What's the matter, aren't you having his much goddamn fun all the
> time? Cheer up!" This kind of thing can really piss some people off.
>
> In a nutshell, I think the above is a major reason so many love/hate
> Roth. There is no middle ground. It's the classic Frank "Grimey"
> Grimes vs. Homer Simpson. Sammy Hagar vs. David Lee Roth. Pure
> jealousy. Guess who is having all the fun?
>
> I think HR speaks for many DLR fans.
Not this one.
Look, DLR in his heyday was great. No one disputes this. Hagar had big
shoes to fill in VH and did so admirably. He'll never live up to being DLR
and deep down he knows it.
But let's fast forward 15 years: Nobody cares about DLR unless he's with
Eddie (and vice versa). The ratings for his radio show don't lie.
Oh, and by the way: Henry Rollins has talent, but deciding who does and
doesn't have talent isn't one of them. He's had a few less than stellar
appearances on Stern where fans would call in and ask him "what makes you
qualified to talk shit about him or her?", and he doesn't exactly make
compelling arguments.
PS - I don't know what's a dumber analogy: Sammy = Grimey or DLR = Homer.
Keith Richards
<captai...@smf.org> wrote:
>
>"Keith Richards" <k...@nospammers.com> wrote in message
>news:ksem42lgqda33v8j0...@4ax.com...
>> HR made this observation about DLR's outlook:
>>
>> "What's the matter, aren't you having his much goddamn fun all the
>> time? Cheer up!" This kind of thing can really piss some people off.
>>
>> In a nutshell, I think the above is a major reason so many love/hate
>> Roth. There is no middle ground. It's the classic Frank "Grimey"
>> Grimes vs. Homer Simpson. Sammy Hagar vs. David Lee Roth. Pure
>> jealousy. Guess who is having all the fun?
>>
>> I think HR speaks for many DLR fans.
>
>Not this one.
>
LOL! You're not a fan, Grimey.
>
>But let's fast forward 15 years: Nobody cares about DLR unless he's with
>Eddie (and vice versa). The ratings for his radio show don't lie.
LOL! Grimey, a DLR fan doesn't dwell or care about a radio show. It's
over. It was fun to talk about, but get real. He wasn't a best selling
author and he didn't replace Wayne Newton in Vegas, either.
What's next, he's a failure because he never went from EMT to Doctor?
All that shit is secondary and only non-fans like you dwell on it...
and you think people like someone only if they're still popular?
Before you play a CD, do you wonder if that band would get good
ratings as radio DJs before you play it?
>
>Oh, and by the way: Henry Rollins has talent, but deciding who does and
>doesn't have talent isn't one of them.
But you decide, Grimey? Why would HR's positive opinion about Roth
upset a Roth "fan". You're far too easy, Grimey.
>
>PS - I don't know what's a dumber analogy: Sammy = Grimey or DLR = Homer.
>
These are actually better:
blahblahblah = Grimey
blahblahblah = Someone I flamed in the past and can't let it go
blahblahblah = typical troll that says he likes Sam and Dave equally
blahblahblah = blahblahblah (perfect name)
sandman89
I think HR speaks for many DLR fans.
Not this one.
Look, DLR in his heyday was great. No one disputes this. Hagar had big
shoes to fill in VH and did so admirably. He'll never live up to being
DLR and deep down he knows it.
But let's fast forward 15 years: Nobody cares about DLR unless he's with
Eddie (and vice versa). The ratings for his radio show don't lie.
Oh, and by the way: Henry Rollins has talent, but deciding who does and
doesn't have talent isn't one of them. He's had a few less than stellar
appearances on Stern where fans would call in and ask him "what makes
you qualified to talk shit about him or her?", and he doesn't exactly
make compelling arguments.
PS - I don't know what's a dumber analogy: Sammy = Grimey or DLR =
Homer.
### good post.
"I am not a tough guy. I'm a tough negotiator. But outside of that, I'm
a patsy."
-Sumner Redstone, CEO of Viacom
IGB
"sandman89" <sand...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22385-444...@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net...
> captai...@smf.org (blahblahblah)
>
> Oh, and by the way: Henry Rollins has talent, but deciding who does and
> doesn't have talent isn't one of them. He's had a few less than stellar
> appearances on Stern where fans would call in and ask him "what makes
> you qualified to talk shit about him or her?", and he doesn't exactly
> make compelling arguments.
I agree with you and the Sadman that Henry Rollins is a no talent loser, but
he does know what hes talking about with Roth.
I never did understand why anybody paid Rollins much attention.
Maybe its because of his affiliation with Roth lol
IGB
>
> "What's the matter, aren't you having his much goddamn fun all the
> time? Cheer up!" This kind of thing can really piss some people off.
>
> In a nutshell, I think the above is a major reason so many love/hate
> Roth. There is no middle ground. It's the classic Frank "Grimey"
> Grimes vs. Homer Simpson. Sammy Hagar vs. David Lee Roth. Pure
> jealousy. Guess who is having all the fun?
Spammy has been jealous of Roths success from day one.
He had no reason to get in the mudslingings with Vh other than that he was
insecure about Roth replacing him.
>
> I used to get so much shit from people for being into the guy.
> People telling me that he was a clown, or that he was sexist. I always
> countered my opinion that he was into being a showman and if he was
> down with the ladies, more power to him.
Roth got all the pussy and all the nerds out there were jealous and still
are.
>
> For several years, world tours and six awesome albums, Van Halen
> destroyed the earth and everybody who went to the show had a damn good
> time. I know I did. Dave dressed the sets and choreographed all the
> moves. "If all the world's a stage, I want better lighting." Their
> sixth record 1984 was their best seller.
It takes a lot of talent to do that. Talent that Eddie did not have.
> Poison? I'm supposed to be into that? Get the fuck out of here.
> Speaking of getting the fuck out, Roth quit Van Halen and from the
> interviews, it wasn't very clean split. To say that there were some
> hard feelings would be approaching it. In the meantime, the band hired
> on a new singer. Sammy Hagar, one of the most incredible turn-offs
> known to mankind-diabolical.
This is why the Hagar fans dont agree with Rollins, they dont like him
exposing the no talent pussy Hagar.
> When not onstage or in the studio, Dave has been known to punctuate
> his life with voyages to distant locales to deal up close and personal
> with the terrain and its inhabitants. Such journeys include trips to
> New Guinea, the Amazon River and most recently, a trek through the
> Himalayas as well as a kayak mission in the South Pacific. These
> experiences give him a perspective that you might not get here in
> town.
While Dave is traveling the world, Eddie is rotting away in his studio
making Korn infleunced music.
Sammy travels to Cabo and thinks hes seen the world. Thats why all he can
sing about is tequila.
blahblahblah
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:48:44 -0500, "blahblahblah"
> LOL! Grimey, a DLR fan doesn't dwell or care about a radio show. It's
> over. It was fun to talk about, but get real. He wasn't a best selling
> author and he didn't replace Wayne Newton in Vegas, either.
IMO Dave's book was pretty good in spots, and really meandering in others.
DLR fans don't care about a radio show? Then what have you and IGB been
flaming Rush and Sandman over for the last few months???
> These are actually better:
> blahblahblah = Grimey
> blahblahblah = Someone I flamed in the past and can't let it go
> blahblahblah = typical troll that says he likes Sam and Dave equally
> blahblahblah = blahblahblah (perfect name)
Keep dancing for me, Keef. I used to think Rush was a little paranoid with
all the Sammy posts and links, but in your own way you're getting close.
IGB
"blahblahblah" aka Rushgedlife <captai...@smf.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Keith Richards" <k...@nospammers.com> wrote in message
> news:adpn425coakqhf3p7...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:48:44 -0500, "blahblahblah"
>
>> LOL! Grimey, a DLR fan doesn't dwell or care about a radio show. It's
>> over. It was fun to talk about, but get real. He wasn't a best selling
>> author and he didn't replace Wayne Newton in Vegas, either.
>
> IMO Dave's book was pretty good in spots, and really meandering in others.
>
> DLR fans don't care about a radio show? Then what have you and IGB been
> flaming Rush and Sandman over for the last few months???
I flame Sadman because hes a moron with webtv with useless opinions
I flame Rushgedblahblah (who is you posting from newsguy) because hes an
even bigger moron with even more useless opinions
>
>> These are actually better:
>> blahblahblah = Grimey
>> blahblahblah = Someone I flamed in the past and can't let it go
>> blahblahblah = typical troll that says he likes Sam and Dave equally
>> blahblahblah = blahblahblah (perfect name)
>
> Keep dancing for me, Keef. I used to think Rush was a little paranoid
> with all the Sammy posts and links, but in your own way you're getting
> close.
>
Ouch, looks like KR hit another nerve in a another Spammy fan!
What a sad little life Rushgedlife leads. Putting down his ownself down to
make his new account believable
Keith Richards
<italiang...@italianonespam.com> wrote:
>
>"blahblahblah" aka Rushgedlife <captai...@smf.org> wrote in message
>news:e2hge...@enews1.newsguy.com...
>>
>> "Keith Richards" <k...@nospammers.com> wrote in message
>> news:adpn425coakqhf3p7...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:48:44 -0500, "blahblahblah"
>>
>>> These are actually better:
>>> blahblahblah = Grimey
>>> blahblahblah = Someone I flamed in the past and can't let it go
>>> blahblahblah = typical troll that says he likes Sam and Dave equally
>>> blahblahblah = blahblahblah (perfect name)
>>
>> Keep dancing for me, Keef. I used to think Rush was a little paranoid
>> with all the Sammy posts and links, but in your own way you're getting
>> close.
>>
>
>
>Ouch, looks like KR hit another nerve in a another Spammy fan!
>
>What a sad little life Rushgedlife leads. Putting down his ownself down to
>make his new account believable
>
I'm not so sure it's Rush. I've pissed off a lot of sheep over the
years. I've burst a lot of fantasy bubbles and harshly introduced cold
reality to a many an ignorant sheep. They don't like it. They hate me
for it. My superior opinion hurts them.
They've been coming out of the woodwork lately, hoping to settle an
old score. They've been scarred for life and they want payback. They
usually don't let me know who they are, they think it gives them the
upper hand, but it only gives them short-lived, false hopes... because
at the end of the day, they search their soul and they know they have
been beaten, and that they are pitiful and they will hate the reality
I have thrust upon them forever.
No, I doubt it's Rush, he may spend a lot of time rooting for Sammy,
but I think like most of us here, he doesn't take all this THAT
serious and is just having fun and passing some time... and if it is,
I really don't care enough, anyway.
Besides, I have it down to... oh, I'd say about 50 different people
that it could possibly be...
;-)
Keith Richards
<captai...@smf.org> wrote:
>DLR fans don't care about a radio show? Then what have you and IGB been
>flaming Rush and Sandman over for the last few months???
>
Uhm... maybe because his radio show has been in the news everyday for
the last 4 months.
HELLO! Ding-dong! You in there annonymous hurt person from my past??
Sheesh...
Clockmeister
"Keith Richards" <kr...@spambegone.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:25:18 GMT, "IGB"
> <italiang...@italianonespam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"blahblahblah" aka Rushgedlife <captai...@smf.org> wrote in message
>>news:e2hge...@enews1.newsguy.com...
>>>
>>> "Keith Richards" <k...@nospammers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:adpn425coakqhf3p7...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:48:44 -0500, "blahblahblah"
>>>
>
>>>> These are actually better:
>>>> blahblahblah = Grimey
>>>> blahblahblah = Someone I flamed in the past and can't let it go
>>>> blahblahblah = typical troll that says he likes Sam and Dave equally
>>>> blahblahblah = blahblahblah (perfect name)
>>>
>>> Keep dancing for me, Keef. I used to think Rush was a little paranoid
>>> with all the Sammy posts and links, but in your own way you're getting
>>> close.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Ouch, looks like KR hit another nerve in a another Spammy fan!
>>
>>What a sad little life Rushgedlife leads. Putting down his ownself down to
>>make his new account believable
>>
>
>
> I'm not so sure it's Rush. I've pissed off a lot of sheep over the
> years. I've burst a lot of fantasy bubbles and harshly introduced cold
> reality to a many an ignorant sheep. They don't like it. They hate me
> for it. My superior opinion hurts them.
Do you feel better after typing such nonsense?
sandman89
My superior opinion hurts them.
### what a telling statement. "superior opinion". too funny.