EVH vs Gary Moore
Ryan D Sheeler
How does everyone rate Gary Moore in comparison to EVH? I am big Ed
fan, but have REALLY gotten into Gary Moore over the last year or so.
The Blues Alive album had me hooked!
Now I have heard that Gary Moore is legendary over in Europe the way EVH
is revered state-side. That puzzles me. The only thing that I could
account for that is GM's lack of hits and somewhat lackluster
songwriting (kinda out of the Rainbow/Deep Purple/ power ballady stuff),
pre-Blues anyway. I was wondering what y'all think on these other
topics:
1. Chops: Gary doesn't tap, but man, can he pick! And he doesn't sound
like Yngwie too much! We all know about EVH's chops, if you don't
well...
2. Tone: EVH has legendary tone, but Gary gets some sweet tone too.
Whaddya think?
3. Influence: I think this is a regional thing
I'd like to hear what everybody thinks on this. Have EVH and Gary Moore
ever met or jammed? Didn't G-Force open for VH on half of the 1984
tour?
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Ryan D. Sheeler
rshe...@iastate.edu
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rsheeler
DShezza
>How does everyone rate Gary Moore in comparison to EVH?
apples to oranges. GM has had a varied career - with Thin Lizzy (on and off)
then as a metal icon, and since 1990 or so, as a blues/middle of the road type
guy.
>GM's lack of hits and somewhat lackluster
>songwriting (
don't forget his ugly mug...sorry, but he just doesn't have the rock-star looks
that EVH had...
>(kinda out of the Rainbow/Deep Purple/ power ballady stuff
Deep Purple power-ballady? Huh? Sure - latter-day Rainbow with Joe Lynn
Turner was big on this type of crap but Deep Purple? I'd say you're way off
the mark. GM, like many also-rans in the metal sweepstakes (at least in the
US) tried to score the big radio hit and thus did some rather poppish stuff in
his metal daze - however, there are things like White Knuckles, Nuclear Attack,
and End of the World (the intro to this definitely rivals Eruption for
over-the-top guitar histrionics) that rock hard and take no prisoners.
>1. Chops:
GM preceded YM (and EVH) on the scene...has his own style but it's not as
distinctive as EVH's
>2. Tone:
GM's is not as amazing as, say, George Lynch's but he's good...
>3. Influence: I think this is a regional thing
agreed - no US success to speak of, no legions of adoring wannabes
>Didn't G-Force open for VH on half of the 1984
>tour?
don't think so - that Autograph group was the only "name" (and not much of one)
to open for VH back in the day...I think they were scared of good opening bands
(I'm not kidding)
DS
"Mind, Body, Heart & Soul...we've got Rock & Roll...and there's nothing they
can do"
Xmaspm67
G-Force, I believe, opened on the 1981 tour after they kicked the Fools off the
tour for being too good. My question is, what does G-Force have to do with
Gary Moore? I saw Gary Moore open for Def Lep at the Cape Cod Collesium way
back when. I remember my friend's brother commenting on the fact that every
guitar player was using Ed's licks (Krokus was aslo on the bill). The funny
thing about the comment was he wasn't into that type of music...he just heard
VH because that's all we listened to, and he said that being an impartial
observer. Wow....G-Force and Gary Moore....that brings back some memories....
Mambo
favorite work he's done was Coridors of Power with the song "the end of
the world". I never kept up with him after that, but in 90, MTV was
playing a video of him (GM) and some other black blues guitarist and
then they annouced the dude died that same year.
Del
Greg Fahey
result of many things. Promotion, singing ( not that great and I believe he
insists on singing ), plus (sadly) his appearance from the car crash. Sad
but true, people end up staring at times and probably promo was missing due
to this. Astute guitarists know this man's talent however and in the end I'm
sure Gary would rather be embraced by the axe-masters than commercial
success. You have to remember, EVH set the world on its ear with his never
before heard or seen fretboard tapping. This is what got him over the top so
to speak. Innovation elevates the great from the really good. Gary Moore?
Great style, phrasing, all the chops but, nothing we havn't heard before.
Santana is a good example too. Right off you know it's him playing. Others
with that extra "something else" innovation? Duane Allman ( the best to
me! ), Hendrix, EVH, SRV, Clapton, Roy Buchanon, Santana, Joe Satriani and
on and on and on! Another big favorite of mine was Bill Nelson of the
defunct Be Bop Deluxe. Saw him open for Ted Nugent in 1976 in Portland, OR
and he just blew me away! I didn't want Nugent to come out! Saw him play 2
more times and kept thinking " why isn't this guy on everyones list?"! Just
incredible! Same way you think of Gary Moore I guess! Go figure huh?
Ryan D Sheeler wrote in message <3605BA...@iastate.edu>...
>I thought this might make for interesting discussion...
>
>How does everyone rate Gary Moore in comparison to EVH? I am big Ed
>fan, but have REALLY gotten into Gary Moore over the last year or so.
>The Blues Alive album had me hooked!
>
>Now I have heard that Gary Moore is legendary over in Europe the way EVH
>is revered state-side. That puzzles me. The only thing that I could
>account for that is GM's lack of hits and somewhat lackluster
>songwriting (kinda out of the Rainbow/Deep Purple/ power ballady stuff),
>pre-Blues anyway. I was wondering what y'all think on these other
>topics:
>
>1. Chops: Gary doesn't tap, but man, can he pick! And he doesn't sound
>like Yngwie too much! We all know about EVH's chops, if you don't
>well...
>
>2. Tone: EVH has legendary tone, but Gary gets some sweet tone too.
>Whaddya think?
>
>
>tour?
>
>
>
Michael Bradley
Moore G-Force. The band that played was a band from Pittsburgh, formed
by Frankie and Hermie Granati..."G" Force. They were a popular local
band with some hollywood conections, and they got the VH opening slot. I
saw them a few times when I lived in the 'Burg.
MikeyB.
CJ
<gfa...@landmarknet.net> wrote:
>Another big favorite of mine was Bill Nelson of the
>defunct Be Bop Deluxe. Saw him open for Ted Nugent in 1976 in Portland, OR
>and he just blew me away! I didn't want Nugent to come out! Saw him play 2
>more times and kept thinking " why isn't this guy on everyones list?"! Just
>incredible! Same way you think of Gary Moore I guess! Go figure huh?
>Ryan D Sheeler wrote in message <3605BA...@iastate.edu>...
>>I thought this might make for interesting discussion...
Ahh...two favourites of mine mentioned in the same post! I really like
EVH, Moore, and Nelson, all for different things. Eddie (current
politics aside) has to be the No. 1 groundbreaker for obvious reasons,
but as for Moore- his best period for me has to be his stint in Thin
Lizzy. He replaced Brian Robertson for a brief spell and their '78
Australian video just relased last year is absolutely electrifying!
After that he went the bluesy route and sort of lost me, but man..that
cat can wail...tapping and all. Nelson was stunning on the first Be
Bop album, but for whatever reason his star seemed to burn out way too
quickly. BTW...Lizzy's got a box set due out in October...I can't
wait.
"Gimme a bottle of anything...and a glazed donut...to go!!"