Breaking in a new slide

[EDM5970]

Has anyone had experience with a new UMI trombone? I just helped a student
on a tight budget select a very slightly used Benge 165F, and the slide feels
stiff and gummy. It was checked at the store for alignment, etc. It has been
cleaned several times, and loads of black goo is working it's way off. The
slide seems to be gradually getting better. Is this from the preservative put
on from the factory, or from lack of care by the previous owner?
My main question is if anyone has had a slide that started off this way, but
ended up becoming a fast, smooth slide. If so, how long did it take?
There is a one week trial period that is up in another few days.

Thanks,
Sue

[Daniel Laux]

Do you know "Slide-O_Mix"?
I had such a slide myself on a new Yamaha Trombone but now it works very
well. After I used this Lubricant several Times it was getteing better and
better and how I said before now works very well. If I were you I would try
this out.

EDM5970 schrieb in Nachricht
<19990608001212...@ng-ci1.aol.com>...

> Has anyone had experience with a new UMI trombone? I just helped a
student
>on a tight budget select a very slightly used Benge 165F, and the slide
feels

>stiff and gummy. The

>slide seems to be gradually getting better.

[Brad Howland]

You should give it a warm, soapy bath, clean it out with a trombone "snake,"
and rinse well. Then try some Slide-O-Mix. The stuff is made in Germany and
is expensive, but worth every penny. It is a combination soap and lubricant
that makes almost any slide miraculously better.

Brad Howland

EDM5970 wrote in message <19990608001212...@ng-ci1.aol.com>...

> Has anyone had experience with a new UMI trombone? I just helped a
student
>on a tight budget select a very slightly used Benge 165F, and the slide
feels

>stiff and gummy. It was checked at the store for alignment, etc. It has
been
>cleaned several times, and loads of black goo is working it's way off. The
>slide seems to be gradually getting better. Is this from the preservative
put
>on from the factory, or from lack of care by the previous owner?

> My main question is if anyone has had a slide that started off this way,
but
>ended up becoming a fast, smooth slide. If so, how long did it take?

[Neal]

EDM5970 wrote in message <19990608001212...@ng-ci1.aol.com>...
> Has anyone had experience with a new UMI trombone? I just helped a
student
>on a tight budget select a very slightly used Benge 165F, and the slide
feels
>stiff and gummy. It was checked at the store for alignment, etc. It has
been
>cleaned several times, and loads of black goo is working it's way off. The
>slide seems to be gradually getting better. Is this from the preservative
put
>on from the factory, or from lack of care by the previous owner?

Lack of care. Clean it with warm - not hot - water and mild dish detergent.
Get it absolutely clean, then apply Slide-O-Mix sparingly. The slide should
be fine, unless there are dents.

> My main question is if anyone has had a slide that started off this way,
but
>ended up becoming a fast, smooth slide. If so, how long did it take?
> There is a one week trial period that is up in another few days.

No slide requires "break-in" - just get it 100% clean and lube it properly.
It should be fine. If it isn't, return it for another.

[EDM5970]

Thanks for all the advice. As it turns out, a few cleanings later the slide
was greatly improved, and is now working pretty well with slide cream.
Slide-o-mix is not sold nearby, although I do know where to get it. I'll leave
that decision up to my student, though.
By the way, the Benge 165F is a good horn for the money. We found this one
in like new condition for $600. at Dillon's music. They sell them new for
about $760., and it has a heavy weight gold brass bell and F-attachment. The
sound is lighter and brighter than a 42B, but that may make it a better
all-around horn for someone who can only afford one trombone.

Sue