Orchestral Contrabass Trombone?

[The Wolves]

Does anyone know of any orchestral works that are scored for contrabass
trombone?
Bartok "Concerto for Orchestra" doesn't count. Thanks.

The Wolves

[Sacqueboutier]

The Wolves wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any orchestral works that are scored for contrabass
> trombone?
> Bartok "Concerto for Orchestra" doesn't count.

It doesn't count because it does NOT call for a
contrabass trombone. It calls for a bass trombone
in F. With a horn in that key, it is possible
to play the infamous "B" to "F" glissando in the
1st partial (pedal range) from 7th to 1st positions.

BTW, I know of no major orchestral work that calls
for a true BBb contrabass trombone.
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[cdmmcnamara]

Major works for contrabass:

The Ring Wagner (okay so you can play the whole thing on a large tenor
with a trigger but the score does say contrabass trombone)

Integrales Edgard Varese

Octandre Edgard Varese ( okay so both are obscure chamber pieces that
sound like Star Trek suspense/danger music)

So none of the above is orchestral, this is all I could remember and it
seems that everyone else is trying to access the 2 pages that have anything
to say about contrabasses.

D. McNamara

[Tim Dowling]

cdmmcnamara wrote:

Here are some more (not in every case specifying contrabass but all suitable
for the instrument also in it's valved "cimbasso" form-)

Schoenberg Gurrelieder.
Stravinsky Canticum Sacrum
Berg Wozzeck
Lulu
3 Orchesterstucke
Strauss Salome
Elektra
Die Frau ohne Schatten
Die Liebe der Danae
Guntram
Alpensinfonie
Gliere Symphony no3 Ilya Mourometz
Krenek Symphony no 2
Zimmerman Die Soldaten
Ligeti Grand macabre
Brian Gothic Symphony
Rihm- In Schrift
and all those Verdis and Puccinis which get played on tuba.

There is also "Figur" by Rihm for 4! contrabass trombones and harp. Hear it at
ITF 2000 in Utrecht!

Tim Dowling

[ellwoodmail]

Ah yes, played the Bartok about 8 yrs ago, on my humble Yamaha YBL-321
(single F-attachment)!!!

After much trying out of various techniques for the impossible glissando,
including snatching from one partial to another at the same time as a
downward slide movement, half-way along the gliss (!), the conductor and I
agreed that we would settle for a clean C to F crescendo glissando. It
worked a treat and no-one even noticed -- just the usual giggles at a good
rip-snorting farting noise.

Phil Ellwood
Bristol Concert Orchestra - UK

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[Marco Schröder]

Orchestral contrabass trombones in germany are always in F, the contrabass
trombone in Bb nobody uses the last 100 years in germany.
With regards
MSTrombone
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> The Wolves wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know of any orchestral works that are scored for contrabass
> > trombone?
> > Bartok "Concerto for Orchestra" doesn't count.
>
> It doesn't count because it does NOT call for a
> contrabass trombone. It calls for a bass trombone
> in F. With a horn in that key, it is possible
> to play the infamous "B" to "F" glissando in the
> 1st partial (pedal range) from 7th to 1st positions.
>