Strong trigger linkage
frankr...@my-deja.com
String probably won't do. Which trombones are currently on the market
that have strong trigger (mechanical) assemblies.
King used to make one, does it still exist?
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Stephen Axcell
>My son is looking for a trombone with durable trigger linkage.
>String probably won't do. Which trombones are currently on the market
>that have strong trigger (mechanical) assemblies.
>King used to make one, does it still exist?
>
for someone who will clonk it around (budget), but otherwise I would
recommend it.
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Mark and Terry
You should give a price range and skill level of your son to help us
narrow it down a bunch.
Also, skilled repairman can coinvert any horn to Mechanical linkage. I
can give you the name of one that is VERY good if you are interested.
Mark
frankr...@my-deja.com wrote:
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> My son is looking for a trombone with durable trigger linkage.
> String probably won't do. Which trombones are currently on the market
> that have strong trigger (mechanical) assemblies.
> King used to make one, does it still exist?
>
Matt Rogish
Thayer valve which is cool. :)
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Matt
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Brian Berlin
is a very good horn and there should be plenty of used ones around. It is a
good horn by any standard. I guess I've had about 6 of them over the years.
They are just fine instruments. Still have one - it's a hum dinger!
Brian Berlin
Austin, TX
Brian Berlin
was wonderful. Your thumb went over the slide brace before coming to rest
on the trigger. It had a large, bizzare looking twisted linkage arm but
worked very well.
My current Bach 42BO has the old traditional metal linkage but I've bent the
brace slightly to help line up the triggers movement with the valves
movement (on the open wrap 42B, the rotor is rotated slightly and not in the
exact same plane as the motion of the trigger (if you have one, you know
what I mean)).
Here's a novel idea that not many adhere to - don't use a trigger! Get a
strait horn and play that. I have a bach model 6 that plays like a dream.
It's a little more work in the lower register. I can't dwell on notes in
that harmonic between 1 and 2 but it's a good horn and I get along. So
consider being a rebel and don't use a trigger horn.
Brian Berlin
Austin, TX
Sacqueboutier
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> My son is looking for a trombone with durable trigger linkage.
> String probably won't do. Which trombones are currently on the market
> that have strong trigger (mechanical) assemblies.
> King used to make one, does it still exist?
IMO, King linkage has always been the worst on
the market. That stupid wrap-around trigger
with the string was so sluggish and hard to
operate that it turned me off of the valved
King instruments a long time ago (in spite of
the fact that I was quite enamoured with the
newish 4B and 5B back in 1982).
One of the best linkages on the market is still
the Holton TR-158 or Tr-156 (the 156 being the
better of the two horns). An even better linkage
used to be on the TR-150, but that horn had
response problems off the scale and it was
pretty stuffy.
As of yet, I am not fully satisfied with the
newer Bach linkage, but it is a hell of a lot
better than their old one.
the Thayer valves all have a good linkage.
GRIZ
of the Strads, that I've seen. The lever throw looks to be about a 1:1
ratio with the valve-action. The nylon socket rod-ends pop right off
their connecting metal balls, to scoop up a little vasoline for lubing.
On re-assembly, it doesn't matter which way you put the connecting-rod,
because the sockets at both ends are identical.
Read Holton's line carefully, as some of their F-troup 'bones still use
fish-line. I know the TR-158 has linkage, because I played one til my
music major daughter took it to Ball State U, to use as a bass 'bone
(single rotor, gentlemen!).
Of course, if you'd like to spend $600 over the price of the horn, get a
Thayer valve (cone-shaped) installed. The Rene' Hagmann (hocky
puck-shaped) valve feels okay, but I'd have to get used to the curved
sweep necessary to operate it.
Though I love to play down low, them rotors is just one more ball in my
juggling-act, anymore! Two rotors?--Foget it! Bone On!!
The Mighty Trombone, with it's Power and Majesty, can also Whisper a
Prayer from my Heart! I Play because I can't Help it!
GRIZ
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frankr...@my-deja.com
pretty quickly. My son's marching band horn
(they are pretty competitive) is a Blessing B-88.
String keeps slipping. I let him try my old 88H
just to see if that was any better. It was, a bit
but he is not allowed (by me) to use that horn on the
marching field. Nor my newer 88H. Of course he doesn't
understand. Director actually want them to use trigger
for 6th and 7th position. (one piece they are playing
outside is in Gflat - imagine that!)
I am going to try to let the local trombone repair
guru put a ring on it for his right thumb or perhaps give
me a price on a mechanical linkage. If that doesn't
work I will have a B-88 for sale and will be looking
for a .547 bore Holton or King (anyone want to trade?).
Seems to me that the Kings in the early 70's (when I
went to college) were pretty durable.
Aaron Jorgensen
the clontz mechanical linkage systems?? I think you can buy them for most
bones (bach's and blessings come to mind) but they don't make any for a Conn
88H (my instrument). But I've heard they'll custom make one for your
instrument.
So has anyone had any experience with one? Are they an improvement over
string linkage?
They say its easy to put on and all you need is a pair of pliers and a
screwdriver. I'd think it'd need some sort of cutting or something to make
it fit.... can't really see how else it'd go on.
In tromboning,
AJ
WBean999
My Holton TR160 linkage is the quitest in the studio here...
Brian Dupuis
Undergraduate Trombonist
Louisiana State University
OAS AAS LLS!