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His Boy Elroy

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Apr 21, 2003, 9:34:21 PM4/21/03
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As far as I know, there were three albums released on vinyl by Mr. Watrous.

There was:

'Bone Straight Ahead
Manhattan Wildlife Refuge
Tiger of San Pedro

I know he's got new stuff released on CD, but I wonder there's some vinyl
out there I need to start combing attics for.

BTW, is anyone aware whether he ever plays anywhere with big band? I saw him
about twenty years ago with a quintet in Toronto, but never with big band. I
give my chops to here him live with a whole bunch o' jazz musicians.

~~HBE


HoundDog

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:21:51 AM4/22/03
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Here are the vinly albums of which I am aware that Bill Watrous appears
as either leader or featured soloist. It is likely that there are
others, but these are the ones that I either own or can document from
the liner notes of later albums.

Album: "Dirty Dog"
Artist: Kai Winding
Label: Verve V6-866
Recorded in New York in 1966, this album featured four trombones and a
rhythm section. The trombones are Carl Fontana, Urbie Green, Bill
Watrous and Kai Winding. The liner notes don't provide a breakout of
which solos are by which trombonist, but if you are familiar with Bill
Watrous, you will recognize his solos.

Album: "Bone Straight Ahead"
Artist: The Bill Watrous Combo
Label: Famous Door Records HL 101
Recorded 1972
Re-released 2001 in CD format by Progressive International

Album: "In Tandem"
Artist: The Danny Stiles Five
Label: Famous Door Records HL 103
Recorded about 1973

Album: "Manhattan Wildlife Refuge"
Artist: Bill Watrous' Manhattan Wildlife Refuge
Label: Columbia KC 33090
Recorded 1973 or 1974 (only date listed was copyright of 1974). Watrous
is backed by big band consisting of New York-based jazz artists.

Album: "One More Time"
Artist: The Danny Stiles - Bill Watrous Five
Label: Famous Door Records HL 112
Recorded about 1974 or 1975

Album: "The Tiger of San Pedro"
Artist: Bill Watrous and The Manhattan Wildlife Refuge
Label: Columbia KC 33090
Recorded 1974 or 1975 (only date listed was copyright of 1975). Again,
Watrous is backed by big band of New York-based jazz artists.

Album: "In Tandem - Into the 80's"
Artist: The Danny Stiles Five
Label: Famous Door Records HL 126
Recorded about 1975 or 1976

Album: "Watrous in Hollywood"
Artist: The Bill Watrous Combo
Label: Famous Door Records HL 127
Recorded about 1976 or 1977

Album: "I'll Play for You"
Artist: The Solo Trombone of Bill Watrous
Label: Famous Door Records HL 134
Recorded about 1977 or 1978

Album: "Coronary Trombossa"
Artist: The Solo Trombone of Bill Watrous
Label: Famous Door Records HL 103
Recorded about 1978 or 1979

Album: "La Zorra"
Artist: The Solo Trombone of Bill Watrous with the new Bill Watrous
Quartet Label: Famous Door Records HL 137
Recorded 1980

Album: "Dreams & Themes"
Artist: Patrick Williams
Label: Allegiance Records
Recorded: 1982
Watrous has one of his prettiest solos ever on the ballad track "Times."
This album was later re-released on CD.

Album: "Someplace Else"
Artist: Bill Watrous with Patrick Williams and his Orchestra
Label: Soundwings
Recorded: 1985 or 1986 (only date listed was copyright of 1986).
Released on vinly LP, cassette and CD.

Album: "10th Avenue"
Artist: Patrick Williams' New York Band
Label: Soundwings
Recorded: 1986
Watrous is featured on the Quincy Jones composition "The Witching Hour."
Released on vinly LP, cassette and CD.

It appears that the releases that followed were on CD only. If you find
any copies of the above albums, let me know. I'd like to fill in the
missing pieces in my collection.

Hound Dog

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Michael H. Pittsley

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Apr 22, 2003, 10:02:11 AM4/22/03
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Another Watrous album...

In Love Again
William Russell Watrous with the Richard Behrke Strings

MTA 1006

Date unknown. Has a photo of a young Bill Watrous on the cover.


christopher.hoepelman

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:47:27 PM4/22/03
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In 1982 Bill Watrous released the LP "Live in London" on the Mole Jazz
label.

Bill Watrous Trombone
Brian Dee - Piano
Len Skeat-Bass
Martin Drew-Drums

Straight, No Chaser
When Your Lover has Gone
Diane
Falling in Love with Love

Recorded live at the Pizza Express, Dean Street 22nd March 1982 has appeared
on CD with extra tracks.

Don't know how official it is, but it's great.

Chris
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Carl Dershem

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Apr 22, 2003, 9:21:26 PM4/22/03
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HoundDog <sheeri...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Here are the vinly albums of which I am aware that Bill Watrous appears
> as either leader or featured soloist. It is likely that there are
> others, but these are the ones that I either own or can document from
> the liner notes of later albums.

I also have:

"Funk'N Fun"
Bill Watrous Quintet
Yupiteru Industry (Japanese - I found it in Tokyo) 1979
YJ25-7024

"Reflections"
Arranged and conduted by Patrick Williams
1987 Soundwings
SW-2104

"Trombone Summit"
Winding/Mangelsdorff/Watrous/Whigham
PAUSA, recorded in 1981
PAUSA 7111

"Friends"
The Singers Unlimited
PAUSA, recorded in 1976
PAUSA 7039
Bill's solo on "The troube with hell is goodbye" is a killer.

All of these are on vinyl, and no, you can't have them! :)

cd
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Michael H. Pittsley

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Apr 23, 2003, 9:38:23 AM4/23/03
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"Carl Dershem" <der...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Trombone Summit"
> Winding/Mangelsdorff/Watrous/Whigham
> PAUSA, recorded in 1981
> PAUSA 7111

Geez... I can't believe I forgot about this one. I even have this album.
One of the cuts is an interesting multiphonics tour de force duet featuring
Watrous and Manglesdorf.


Keith Marr

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Apr 23, 2003, 10:23:52 AM4/23/03
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I taped from one called Bill Watrous Live at Pizza in the Park (early
1970s - amazing stuff) and there was another one I listened to at the time
as well. So there are others about if one can but find them.
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Mike Edwards

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Apr 23, 2003, 10:43:10 AM4/23/03
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Here are two more I found in my collection...

Album: Bill Watrous In London (Live at the Pizza Express, March 1982)
Artist: Bill Watrous (tb), Brian Dee (p), Len Skeat (b), Martin Drew (d)
Label: Mole Jazz

Album: The Best is Yet to Come
Artist: Ella Fitzgerald
Label: Pablo Today 2312-138
Date: 1982
(Features a nice solo by Watrous on "You're Driving Me Crazy" with a big
band arranged by Nelson Riddle)

Matt


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His Boy Elroy

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Apr 23, 2003, 9:15:18 PM4/23/03
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WOW!!!!!!! I'm going to really have to "get busy"!!! To those who so kindly
took time to respond: Thank you so very much much for edu-ma-cation!

I guess the next question is, since any vinyl you order or buy on the 'net
is "iffy" at best, any suggestions on how I can get digital versions of
these (I'll settle for .mp3 if I have to but I'm leery of "spyware" on the
readers on the net). Perhaps there's a single label or two he was signed to
back then that I could contact?

Also, still waiting to hear if anyone out there is aware of any b.b.
concerts anymore?

~~HBE


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Jeff Thompson

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Apr 25, 2003, 12:30:59 PM4/25/03
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Bill Watrous' latest CDs are on the (Jamey Abersold) Double Time Records
label (this is a big band set) and the Half Note label, this a quartet
date live in New York City.

Bill's big band, sometimes called Refuge West, still appears live. Most
recently I saw the big band live at the Jazz Bakery club in Los Angeles
last October. The band is awesome and the performance was simply a
knock-out! I have seen the big band listed at other times at the Bakery.
I would guess he plays there about 3 times a year. They don't play any
of the old charts from the Columbia albums. He has a new book of
excellent arrangements by guys like Gordon Goodwin and Tom Kubis.

With his quartet, he plays the Steamers jazz club in Fullerton, say 5
times a year. If you like jazz trombone, one of these evenings is like
drowning in a huge vat of chocolate, so to speak.

He made an excellent series of small group LPs, some with trumpeter
Danny Stiles, for Harry Lim's Famous Door label. Many of these have been
listed by other posters. Harry Lim has passed. I think it is George Buck
of the Jazzology record label that now has the rights to the Famous Door
material. The first LP in that series was recently re-issued in CD
format. It's under the Progressive record label, part of the Jazzology
family. I am hoping they will re-issue more of Bill's Famous Door LPs on
CD.

Regards,
Jeff Thompson

His Boy Elroy

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Apr 28, 2003, 6:27:18 PM4/28/03
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Wow! Thanks for all the terrific info, everyone!
~~HBE

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