Lateralus "9-8-7" time signature
jay feldman
called the song Lateralus "987" because of its strange time signatures.
Does this make sense to anyone? I know very little music theory, but
9/8/7 doesn't seem like a real time signature to me. Am I missing
something or are they just fucking with us again?
Adreanis
Hope this help...
-Adreanis
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ryan lund
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nono. nine beats in one measure, eight beats in the second, seven in the third.
-ominous
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changey
be counted as just plain old 6/8 as well.
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Cichli
>be counted as just plain old 6/8 as well.
you can just count it as 3 measures of regular 4/4. but it has the 1-2-3
feel throughout most of the riff, so it doesnt feel 4/4. and then at the end
of every chorus part they play it they throw in an extra beat, before they drop
down into the verse.
so it feels like its 6/8, can be counted as its 4/4, but is actually a measure
of 9, a measure of 8, and a measure of 7.
badass motherfuckers is all i gots ta say.
:jason (in awe)
Duncan Gavin
<jfel...@socrates.berkeley.edu> wrote:
I don't think they're talking about time signatures.
http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/etschaim.htm
Read.
changey
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well, when findo came to visit me, he pointed out that 9+8+7=24. 24/4=6.
instead of counting 123456789123456781234567repeat, you can count
123456123456123456123456repeat. try it. it works. some of the riffs will
overlap measures, but i don't think there is any rule in music that says a
riff or line must be contained within a measure. maybe captain netiquette
will enlighten us on how music MUST be written in order for us to understand
it.
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Eternalist
same thing!
one count of nine, one count of eight, one count of seven = a count of
24, which could be seen as 4 counts of 6/8 or 6 counts of 4/4. The
point is, the accents (i.e. the start of each mini-passage) go with
the 9, 8, 7 pattern...
So everyone's right!! It's okay....but the 9/8, 8/8, 7/8 thing is the
most correct, I'd say..fits with the accents...
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The thing about time signatures though is that they are used to denote where
accents are/beats are in the riffs being played. Of course, there is no one
time signature for any one song. If anything, you could just say that 4/4 is
8/8 with a slower tempo. It's like math...there's all kinds of ways to write
one thing.
In Lateralus, you're right. You can count it as 4 measures of 6 quarter note
beats; however, the reason that I would never count it that way is simply
(circular here) because of the construction of the riffs. I haven't counted it
in 6/4, but it's possible that some of the 6th counts wouldn't even be on a
beat, which simply defeats the purpose of counting it like that.
Another thing that's weird about time signatures is the feels that they give.
In one song that we have, we have a part that's in 9/8, but it's not the 9/8
that you'd think of in Lateralus. It has more of a triplet feel to it because
while the bass is playing a riff in 9/8, the drums and guitars are playing a
3/8 triplet feel along with it. So, while the riff, I would say, is in 9/8,
the overall feel of it is definitely 3/8.
Jimmy
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