46&2, What Does It Mean?
Rhino
In the song FORTY-SIX AND TWO, the chorus goes something like...
"my shadow... change is coming... now is my time... listen to my muscle
memory... contemplate what i've been clinging to... FORTY-SIX AND TWO
AHEAD OF ME..."
What does that last part mean? Does anybody know?
(PLEASE POST)
Mitch Soper
Rhino wrote:
(PLEASE POST)
could be referring to the evolution theory that has been discussed.
like, since its in the future, he has his 46 chromosomes and then
another 2 in his future, cause he's evolving (or attempting to) into a
higher state of being.
Brian La Pask
I heard this song is about mutating dna, or something to that effect.
The thing is, I really don't care what even Maynard says these songs are
about because what they mean to me is only what matters, whoever posted
this question needs to learn more about important, passionate music, like
tool. I only responded because I just got internet access and had
nothing better to do.
-brian la pask
p.s.- who kabir?
Brian La Pask
where do you get off asking such a stupid question. Music is individual.
I don't even care what maynard has to say about the meaning of 46&2.
What do you think it means? whatever your answer is, that what it means.
learn to appreciate music for the art of it. do you think every art
conesuer gets the same meaning out of a picasso, of course not.
grow musically,
Brian La Pask
Brian La Pask
Yuhjn
On 21 Mar 1997 23:42:20 GMT, Brian La Pask <sac1...@saclink.csus.edu>
wrote:
Look man,
I dont give a SHIT what you think certain songs are about any more
than you care what Maynard thinks they are about.
But what you are failing to see here is that things like pondering the
meaning to song lyrics is WHAT THIS NEWS GROUP IS FOR.
If you dont like it, unsubscribe.
And dont give me any shit about needing to "learn more" about
pasionate music. I was a professional musician for several years. I
know what music is. And I know what lyrics are.
lyrics are writting with the idea that someone is going to listen to
their MEANING as well as their sound. There is a thing there called
CONTENT. Which is part and parcel of the "music"
If Maynard didnt want any CONTENT in his lyrics he would be singing
Native American "sound-songs" which amount to nothing more than
how-ahiya-howa-hiya-hoya-hiya-hiya-hoya. Alot of people would think
this is just some indian language but in fact most of the song have NO
MEANING IN ANY LANGUAGE. And that is an example of words without
content.
Maynard sings WORDS though. And usually English words. They have
meaning and we like to think about what the meaning is.
I'm sorry if our interpretations threaten your own ideas about what
the song means.
dumbass
Yuhjn
blackink
In article <5gv6np$a...@news.csus.edu>, Brian La Pask
<sac1...@saclink.csus.edu> wrote:
I agree with you, in theory, Brian...however, I don't think that even
Maynard writes things solely 'for the art of it'. There is a lot of
serious, intelligent, thought behind much of what he's written to date.
That's one of the reasons I like the band as much as I do.
blackink
Shane M. Brouse
Brian La Pask (sac1...@saclink.csus.edu) writes:
> p.s.- who kabir?
Kabir Akhtar is a film student at University of Miami who runs
http://toolshed.down.net, the officially semi-official Tool homepage: the
best Tool resource on the WWW.
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Steve Ehrenberg
Where does he get off? Where do _you_ get off? Someone spent a great
deal of time writing that song, and for you to come along and say, 'Slap
any old meaning on it, whatever floats your boat' is not only
disrespectful to the artist, but disrespectful to music in general.
For far to long, people have been saying music means different things to
different people, or poems have different meanings to different people.
The author of the song or poem in question went to great lengths to
express one specific idea. In certain cases, artists have spent years
formulating words and writing prose to devise the ultimate tool of
expression with which to convey the single concept the work is devoted to.
For you, or anyone, to simply proclaim that whatever meaning one feels is
appropriate to slap on a particular piece of art is arrogant, ignorant,
and utterley careless.
This is not to say that art cannot have different _signifigance_ to
different people, but the meaning or symbolism of a given piece is
singular and distinct.
--
Steve Ehrenberg
sehr...@lynx.neu.edu
http://lynx.neu.edu/home/httpd/s/sehrenbe
P.S.-Can't wait for all the "dont you tell me what to think you %#^^#..."
flames...
Brian La Pask <sac1...@saclink.csus.edu> wrote in article
<5gv6np$a...@news.csus.edu>...
Joel
In article <333218...@ebicom.net>, brea...@ebicom.net says...
> Rhino wrote:
>
> In the song FORTY-SIX AND TWO, the chorus goes something like...
>
> "my shadow... change is coming... now is my time... listen to my
> muscle
> memory... contemplate what i've been clinging to... FORTY-SIX AND
> TWO
> AHEAD OF ME..."
Um, maybe you should read through this first. The lyrics may seem to make
more sense than what you posted.
forty six & 2
my shadow's shedding skin, i've been picking scabs again
i'm down digging through my old muscles for a clue
i've been crawling on my belly clearing out what could've been
i've been wallowing in my own confused insecure delusions
for a piece to cross me over or a word to guide me in
i wanna feel the changes coming down
i wanna know what i've been hiding
in my shadow
my shadow
change is coming through my shadow
my shadow's shedding skin
i've been picking my scabs again
i've been crawling on my belly clearing out what could've been
i've been wallowing in my own chaotic insecure delusions
i wanna feel the change consume me, feel the outside turning in
i wanna feel the metamorphosis and cleansing i've endured
in my shadow
my shadow
change is coming
now is my time
listen to my muscle memory
contemplate what i've been clinging to
forty six and two ahead of me
i choose to live and to grow
take and give and to move
learn and love and to cry
kill and die and to be
paranoid and to lie
hate and fear and to do
what it takes to move through
i choose to live and to lie
kill and give and to die
learn and love and to do
what it takes to step through
see my shadow changing
stretching up and over me
soften this old armor
hoping i can clear the way by
stepping through my shadow
coming out the other side
step into the shadow
forty six and two just ahead of me
The lyrics can be found at about 30 Tool sites, but you can always find
them at http://www.personal.psu.edu/~jvm113/Toolpage.html
Joel
Shane M. Brouse
Joel (toolo...@psu.edu) writes:
> The lyrics can be found at about 30 Tool sites, but you can always find
> them at http://www.personal.psu.edu/~jvm113/Toolpage.html
And http://toolshed.down.net, the place you got them from.
Patrick Irvin
Sorry, but I disagree with you. Everything is open to its own
interpretation. Ever have literature in school?
Alaric Smith
Hmmm, interesting points made here. While different meanings can be
attached, Maynard and co. obviously had something specific in mind. We
get to try figuring it out for ourselves, and if someone stumbles across
the true meaning, half the people here won't notice. That's the whole
point of Tool, think for yourself!
Alaric Smith
The preceding does not necessarily represent the views of 92.3 Radio X, or its parent corporation, Mistress Tatiana's sex toys.
bill...@earthlink.com
On 25 Mar 1997 06:39:04 GMT, "Steve Ehrenberg" <sehr...@lynx.neu.edu>
wrote:
>Where does he get off? Where do _you_ get off? Someone spent a great
>deal of time writing that song, and for you to come along and say, 'Slap
>any old meaning on it, whatever floats your boat' is not only
>disrespectful to the artist, but disrespectful to music in general.
>
>For far to long, people have been saying music means different things to
>different people, or poems have different meanings to different people.
>The author of the song or poem in question went to great lengths to
>express one specific idea. In certain cases, artists have spent years
>formulating words and writing prose to devise the ultimate tool of
>expression with which to convey the single concept the work is devoted to.
> For you, or anyone, to simply proclaim that whatever meaning one feels is
>appropriate to slap on a particular piece of art is arrogant, ignorant,
>and utterley careless.
>
>This is not to say that art cannot have different _signifigance_ to
>different people, but the meaning or symbolism of a given piece is
>singular and distinct.
>
>--
>Steve Ehrenberg
>sehr...@lynx.neu.edu
>http://lynx.neu.edu/home/httpd/s/sehrenbe
>
>P.S.-Can't wait for all the "dont you tell me what to think you %#^^#..."
>flames...
hahahahahaha.... I agree.. although not as enthusicatically. :)
You make it sound like making a purly subjective interpretation to a
poem/song is the equivilent to takeing the artist out back and beating
the shit out of him..
I kinda think the reason people put their own meanings on songs is
simple. They are either too lazy to think about it long enough, or
they are not educated, cultured, or intelligent to understand or find
the intended meaning.
As for the idea that a song has one absolute, concrete meaning (with
the exception of multiple meanings intended by the artist) i could not
agree with you more.
Yuhjn
Abul Rahman
>Brian La Pask <sac1...@saclink.csus.edu> writes:
>where do you get off asking such a stupid question. Music is individual.
>I don't even care what maynard has to say about the meaning of 46&2.
>What do you think it means? whatever your answer is, that what it means.
> learn to appreciate music for the art of it. do you think every art
>conesuer gets the same meaning out of a picasso, of course not.
> grow musically,
> Brian La Pask
Hey Brian...
Is a conesuer someone with a lawsuit against a cone?
jus' wonderin'.
P.S. as per getting something for yourself - it's interesting, but in
music sometimes there is a message! (i.e. believe it or not I think
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds DOES mean something :-)
--
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http://remus.rutgers.edu/~arahman/ | -- (anonymous / unknown?)
Cecrle
I don't know, it may be different in this case, but Tool is usually pretty
cryptic and obscure. I think they want it to be that way. Then you have
to think about things more--same way with no lyrics in the packaging.
-FC