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Brendan Kevin Loonam

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Mar 16, 1995, 2:14:17 PM3/16/95
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I am a first time poster on the TMBG internet and I recently heard a rumor
from my friend Dan Sherman that They Might Be Giants might actually be
gay? I hope this isn't the case. I'm sure Dan has no idea what he's
talking about, but I don't think he is a real big fan anyway. Bye.

Daniel M. Sherman

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Mar 16, 1995, 4:55:05 PM3/16/95
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In article <loonamb-1603...@cf13.bc.edu>, loo...@cleo.bc.edu
(Brendan Kevin Loonam) wrote:

Dear Ass-Monkey,
I don't know who the hell you think you are, but you will pay dearly for
making this newsgroup into a den of lies.
-Dan Sherman

Charlie131

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Mar 16, 1995, 5:46:53 PM3/16/95
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What difference does it make if they are gay?

Donald Simmons

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Mar 16, 1995, 9:05:27 PM3/16/95
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Nope. At least one of Them has a girlfriend.

Thorn

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Mar 16, 1995, 10:50:02 PM3/16/95
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In article <shermada-160...@onra02p7.bc.edu>,

Daniel M. Sherman <sher...@cleo.bc.edu> wrote:
>In article <loonamb-1603...@cf13.bc.edu>, loo...@cleo.bc.edu
>(Brendan Kevin Loonam) wrote

>[Ass-Monkey's comments deleted]

>Dear Ass-Monkey,
>I don't know who the hell you think you are, but you will pay dearly for
>making this newsgroup into a den of lies.
>-Dan Sherman

Yeah. What he said.

MTR

(I just wanted to type the name "Ass-Monkey" on my keyboard)


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Pennylane

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Mar 16, 1995, 11:12:32 PM3/16/95
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In article <loonamb-1603...@cf13.bc.edu>, loo...@cleo.bc.edu
(Brendan Kevin Loonam) wrote:

> I am a first time poster on the TMBG internet and I recently heard a
rumor
> from my friend Dan Sherman that They Might Be Giants might actually be
> gay? I hope this isn't the case. I'm sure Dan has no idea what he's
> talking about, but I don't think he is a real big fan anyway. Bye.

1)Does this really matter to you?
2)Is it any of our business?

sparky

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Mar 16, 1995, 11:31:50 PM3/16/95
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This rumor seems to get started every so often. Frankly, what
does sexual orientation have to do with the quality of music one
produces, anyway?

Trust me, tho, the Johns' girlfriends have been told directly on
more than one occasion "But, isn't your boyfriend gay?" ;) Their
response..."not the last time I checked."

Rick Banghart

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Mar 17, 1995, 8:36:35 AM3/17/95
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In article <3kb3bm$n2v$1...@mhade.production.compuserve.com>, sparky
<74774...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

He wasn't making a comment on the quality of music.

*Sigh*

Why is it, when people have asked if They Might be Jewish, or They Might be
Christian, or They Might be Married, or They Might be From New Jersey, people
either
(1)answer the question or
(2)say, "read the faq"

But when someone asks if They Might be Gay, everybody either
(1)says, "Why does it matter to the quality of their music?"
(2)says, "Gawddammit, They ain't gay, you Ass-monkey"
(3)says, "Well, it's none of our business."
(4)says, "Yes, they are, just like Ben Franklin, Abe Lincoln, Alexander the
Great, Ramses II, Secretariat, and me."

Why the double standard? What is it about being gay that makes people react
differently than religion, religiosity, marital status, place of birth, date of
birth, etc.?

--rick (not gay, unlike Lincoln, though it doesn't matter and it's none
of your business, Gawddammit)

--
--rick

OK soda is good. I like to drink it. Not everyone does.

MarkWCXLA

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Mar 19, 1995, 1:49:12 PM3/19/95
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Who gives a rats ass, anyway? Mark
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Jon R. Fox

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Mar 19, 1995, 2:20:01 PM3/19/95
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So some dork wanted to irritate somebody and posted a claim that he said
that tMbG might be gay.

its an annoying subject I dont think anybody cares about...
I just like their music and what they have to say...
so lets cut it out, ok?

JRF

Herbiv4

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Mar 19, 1995, 9:37:14 PM3/19/95
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really the music would be no better or worse

Rick Banghart

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Mar 20, 1995, 8:45:15 AM3/20/95
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In article <shermada-170...@onra01p1.bc.edu>,

sher...@cleo.bc.edu (Daniel M. Sherman) wrote:

> > But when someone asks if They Might be Gay, everybody either
> > (1)says, "Why does it matter to the quality of their music?"
> > (2)says, "Gawddammit, They ain't gay, you Ass-monkey"
>

> I response to #2, I called Brendan an Ass-Monkey and a liar because, he
> used my name and said I started the rumor as a childish prank, not because
> he said they might be gay (he is actually a stupid friend of mine).
> -Dan Sherman

Oh, sorry.

ken lieck

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Mar 21, 1995, 4:44:32 AM3/21/95
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They Might Be Gourmets?
Thatıs it. Iım pawning all the discs. I canıt stand it when musicians eat
better than me.

Chris Conaton

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Mar 21, 1995, 11:48:42 AM3/21/95
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Alright folks, here's the review you've all (well, at least some of you)
been waiting for. Last night's show at the State Theatre in Kalamazoo was
pretty good. Here's the basic setlist (not exact order).

O, Do Not Forsake Me (swing version)
Subliminal
NyQuil Driver
Statue Got Me High
Shoehorn With Teeth
Don't Let's Start
She's An Angel
Ana Ng
Birdhouse
Racist Friend
Particle Man
I Palindrome I
Snail Shell
Sleeping in the Flowers (chorus at beginning)
Spy
No One Knows My Plan
The Guitar
Meet James Ensor
Out of Jail
Stompbox
Dig My Grave

Encore 1
Lie Still, Little Bottle
Twistin'

Encore 2
Instanbul
Purple Toupee

The opening band was Ivy, from NYC. They weren't bad, but the lead singer's
vocals got buried sometimes. There was nothing really great about them,
they were pretty basic pop/rock. The guitarists seemed to be addicted to
the capo, however. One of them had it on for every single song, and the
other had it for about two-thirds of their songs.
After a 40-50 minute (too long) wait, the show started. Brian came
out first and started drumming, followed by Flansburgh, who proceeded to
do a swing version of O, Do Not Forsake Me. By the end of the song, the
rest of the band was out there, and they launched into NyQuil Driver. From
there they proceeded to play a very average show for about the first half
of the set. The show really picked up when Linnell started having a good
time, somewhere around No One Knows My Plan. The conga line didn't work
too well, as it kept getting stopped by large amounts of people on the
floor who were either standing around or moshing. The floor was rough, but
not terrible. A lot of pushing and shoving up near the front, and some
actual moshing farther back. At one point, Flans announced "We don't mind
if you crowd surf, but please try not to kick people in the head, especia-
lly if it's someone you don't know. The crowd surfers fared pretty well,
with most of them making it up to the front and not falling on their heads
onto the floor.
After the show picked up, I started having a lot more fun. She's
An Angel was excellent, as was Spy. The jam went really well, and Flans
had us all snap our fingers at one point. That was a cool sound. Other
highlights included Out of Jail, Snail Shell (surprisingly), James Ensor,
and Your Racist Friend. After the conga line, I managed to make it up to
the front. By this time, my date, who was not experienced in mosh-type
situations, had disappeared. Following a ripping Dig My Grave, the band
exited.
We brought them back by having the whole crowd snap again. They
returned and played Lie Still, Little Bottle (YES! It was excellent), and
followed it with a very good Twistin'. The second encore brought on a very
good Instanbul, with an excellent trumpet lead-in, and a pretty much
straight version. They closed with Purple Toupee, which was excellent.
Flans thanked us and said it was cool to play in K-zoo, because they'd
been playing a lot of really crappy places, and the State was super-nice.
I totally agreed with this. I'd never been to the State before, and it was
a great venue. The place had a ton of atmosphere, it reminded me of the
Pantages in Toronto (for those of you who've seen Phantom). The acoustics
were also great, which meant They didn't have to crank the sound, so my
ears survived. All in all, a very good show, but not as good as the
Phoenix Center show in '92. Better, however, than last year's Hill
Auditorium concert.

Sorry about the length,
Chris Conaton
cona...@student.msu.edu
"Tell me a story I haven't heard a million times before; I pass out from
boredom."-The Bag, NOFX

NOfferman

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Mar 21, 1995, 6:03:57 PM3/21/95
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Personally, What business is it of yours? They make great music! What
difference does it make if They are gay?

Nick

Sawhney Gabriel

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Mar 21, 1995, 7:47:24 PM3/21/95
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I generally agree with your review... this was the second time I saw They
(the last being last year at Hill), and the moshers really got to me... I
was the second through the door at 7:00 and had a great spot at the
beginning of the concert, but by the end I'd been pushed way to the
side...

I was standing 4 feet away from the speakers, yet it still seems like it
was louder at Hill Auditorium in row 18... still nice and loud, though.
They stuck pretty well to album versions of their sings... minus O Do Not
Forsake Me and Why Does the Sun Shine, things were very normal. My
_MAIN_ complaint (actually a tremendous disappointment) was that they
didn't play The Famous Polka (Their greatest song live)... I guess maybe
with the crowd like it was, that was for the better...

Overall a good concert... I just with They didn't wait to damn long to
come out!

Rick Banghart

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Mar 22, 1995, 8:42:01 AM3/22/95
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Yes, I think the review was pretty accurate.
I think that there was very little actual moshing, but more just general
shoving. I sort of went with the flow and got right in front. Then when
they started with NOKMP, the conga line was outta control, but cool. _My_
date is an adequate mosher, and had no trouble holding her own, once she
decided to.
O Do Not Forsake Me, the worst song on any TMBG album ever, was cool live.
WDTSS, you didn't even mention! It ruled! It rocked! It Kicked ASS!!
(except that I couldn't understand the words in the section where Linnell
speaks). In Spy, when we were all snapping, as Chris mentioned, the funny part
which he may have missed, was after we were all snapping, Flans struck a pose
like a Beat Poet at an Open Mike Poetry reading, pantomime thin black cigarette
and all! Hi-Larious, but subtle.
I almost passed out from dancing/shoving/moshing/being compressed, which is
truly my way of judging a good concert.

Chris Conaton

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Mar 22, 1995, 10:58:30 AM3/22/95
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Yep, I realized last night that I left it (WDTSS) out. Rick's right, it
was great!

Chris

Mur Lafferty

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Mar 24, 1995, 9:47:50 PM3/24/95
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Chris Conaton (cona...@student.msu.edu) wrote:


So Raleigh, NC isn't left out, the show we saw was... Wow. Just... Wow.
It was worth the Dam Builders starting three hours late and They not
starting until midnight. During the conga line I (A short person) got
shoved all the way up to the front of the stage. I stood at Linnell's
feet and adored him. They played She's an Angel. Wow. Wow. WOW.

Mur

(Did I mention it was good?)

Brian X. Reilly

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Mar 26, 1995, 8:51:56 PM3/26/95
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.95031...@hbar.phys.psu.edu>,

"Jon R. Fox" <f...@hbar.phys.psu.edu> wrote:

> So some dork wanted to irritate somebody and posted a claim that he said
> that tMbG might be gay.
>

It's people like Jon R. Fox that just make things worse! Worse Dammit!
If Jon R. Fox had read Brendan's message correctly, he would have noticed
that Brendan actually wrote that he had heard they might be gay. Keep
these mindless accusations to yourself, Jon R. Fox.

Brian X. Reilly

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Mar 26, 1995, 8:53:38 PM3/26/95
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In article <3knm0t$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, noff...@aol.com
(NOfferman) wrote:

Right on my man.

B. Loonam

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Mar 26, 1995, 10:23:51 PM3/26/95
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In article <reillybr-260...@onra01p5.bc.edu>,


I would just like to thank Brian for setting the record straight. I made
no claims whatsoever. Can't you read? I had just heard a rumor. Do you
think I care if they might be gay or not? I don't. I was just curious and
I wanted to know. Luckily enough, a few people informed me that one of
them had a girlfriend. Thanks for the info. As for everyone else, lighten
up. I know that their sexual preferences in no way affects what type of
musicians they are. I just wanted someone to answer my question. And Mr.
Brian C. Reilly, thank you for your kind words. I hope that Mr Jon R. Fox
does not rage on you because of your instructions to him.

Christian A Wedge

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Mar 27, 1995, 7:47:44 PM3/27/95
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Excerpts from netnews.alt.music.tmbg: 26-Mar-95 Re: They Might be Gay?
by Brian X. Rei...@cleo.bc.
>> Personally, What business is it of yours? They make great music! What
>> difference does it make if They are gay?
>>
>> Nick
>
> Right on my man.

Why don't I ever see this kind of argument in the "They Might Do Drugs"
threads? Well, maybe it's 'cause I usually skim through those messages,
but still, you'd think the point that the music is still great would be
more stressed. It sure seems stressed in this thread.

Just a random thought that felt like manifesting itself in a post.

-Christian

Francesca Lynn Parker

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Mar 27, 1995, 8:02:35 PM3/27/95
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*WARNING* : What you are about to read is a joke, a
tongue-in-cheek kind of a comment, a little chunk 'o silliness. Please
don't take me seriously. It would destroy my self-perception.

In article <loonamb-2603...@cfh1.bc.edu>,


B. Loonam <loo...@cleo.bc.edu> wrote:
>
>I would just like to thank Brian for setting the record straight.

^^^^^^^^^

So what's with your inconsiderate use of language, Mr. Hetero-centric?

--
ujytmjytmjutkiy

MARC EDWARD FORRESTER

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Mar 28, 1995, 10:01:28 AM3/28/95
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Christian A Wedge <cw...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>> Personally, What business is it of yours? They make great music! What
>>> difference does it make if They are gay?
>
>Why don't I ever see this kind of argument in the "They Might Do Drugs"
>threads? Well, maybe it's 'cause I usually skim through those messages,
>but still, you'd think the point that the music is still great would be
>more stressed. It sure seems stressed in this thread.

Well, the original poster did actually say he hoped they weren't.
Exactly why hasn't been made entirely clear.. :>

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