Weird Al's Love/Hate for Linnell (??)***
LLM...@vm.cc.latech.edu
it is pretty obvious that "everything you know is wrong" is a directed
stab at tmbg. It is amazing to hear Weird Al imitate not one song
but the entire career/ sound of tmbg. He got down every riff and trademark
noise imaginable. It is so accurate that I wonder if JL did not help.
And to think about it, maybe Weird Al is trying to stay on the top of the
accordian pole.Is the universe big enough for two crazy squeezebox players?
Hmm. But a much more subtle and funnier (although probably unintentional)
thumbing is on the next song with the line "My teeth are a fright/ Got a
huge overbite"
Of course, I don't think W. Al is that cruel. Any one else know if there
is bad blood between these two, or jolly fun.
LL
Chris Conaton
Al has said in the past that's he's a big fan of TMBG, so I'd take the
song as more of a homage than a stab. As for doing TMBG's whole career in
one song, it's generally referred to by Al fans as a style parody, and he's
done it in the past for bands like the Police (Velvet Elvis) and Devo (Dare
to be Stupid).
On the other side, I've got a radio interview with the Johns, and the DJ
at one point is talking about rock accordian players, and mentions Linnell
and Al in the same breath, and Linnell's reaction is kind of like "Oh, God"
as in I don't wanna be compared to him.
Chris
cona...@pilot.msu.edu
Logan
> If anyone else has heard the new Weird Al Yankovic albulm "Bad Hair Day"
> it is pretty obvious that "everything you know is wrong" is a directed
> stab at tmbg. It is amazing to hear Weird Al imitate not one song
> but the entire career/ sound of tmbg. He got down every riff and trademark
> noise imaginable. It is so accurate that I wonder if JL did not help.
> And to think about it, maybe Weird Al is trying to stay on the top of the
> accordian pole.Is the universe big enough for two crazy squeezebox players?
> Hmm. But a much more subtle and funnier (although probably unintentional)
> thumbing is on the next song with the line "My teeth are a fright/ Got a
> huge overbite"
>
> Of course, I don't think W. Al is that cruel. Any one else know if there
> is bad blood between these two, or jolly fun.
> LL
IMHO AL's been doing that kind of music since the early 80's
Long before tmbg
they might be but there not....YET
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<snip>
>Of course, I don't think W. Al is that cruel. Any one else know if there
>is bad blood between these two, or jolly fun.
>LL
I'd guess it's just jolly fun. I saw TMBG at the Pantages (Los
Angeles) in the John Henry tour in Nov. 1994 and Weird Al was in
attendance, signing autographs.... Except he left with his escort to
the FRONT ROW before I could get it.
So I think Weird Al appreciates Their music. The song's either an
homage, or at the very worst, an attempt to emulate Them.
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Elizabeth Miles
LLM...@vm.cc.latech.edu wrote:
>
>If anyone else has heard the new Weird Al Yankovic albulm "Bad Hair Day"
>it is pretty obvious that "everything you know is wrong" is a directed
>stab at tmbg.
>Any one else know if there
>is bad blood between these two, or jolly fun.
...and cona...@pilot.msu.edu (Chris Conaton) replied:
>
> Al has said in the past that's he's a big fan of TMBG
> [more SNIP]
> On the other side, I've got a radio interview with the Johns, and the DJ
> at one point is talking about rock accordian players, and mentions Linnell
> and Al in the same breath, and Linnell's reaction is kind of like "Oh, God"
> as in I don't wanna be compared to him.
Al is indeed a big TMBG fan- he was in the eighth row at the Pantages show
when They played Los Angeles on the JH tour (and, incidently, was signing
'Frank Black' when asked for autographs :) ).
As for Linnell muttering 'Oh, God' on being associated with Al, I bet that
was a reaction to having (or expecting to have) TMBG's music categorized as
pure bounce with no substance, and not a reaction to being thrown in with Al
himself. A lot of people see TMBG as good bopping music with no soul or
meanings, and mostly, I ignore them. Occasionally, though, it just really
frustrates me... and if it frustrates me, I can only imagine that it must
*really* annoy John and John on occasion, too.
Cheers-
Beth
Bill Smood
>himself. A lot of people see TMBG as good bopping music with no soul or
>meanings, and mostly, I ignore them.
My roommate, for example. He was describing a Phish (a great band in their own
right) show he had recently been to and how they improvised alot and used a
variety of instruments. I said, "Sort of like They Might Be Giants." To which he
replied a sort of sarcastic, stuck up, "Sure, uh huh, right," and a giggle. It
took awhile to convince him that They were indeed very musically talented and not
some little novelty band that writes meaningless, comical lyrics to jingly tunes.
But what do you expect from people who have heard only Istanbul and about half of
Birdhouse in your soul?
Bill
Bill Smood
>IMHO AL's been doing that kind of music since the early 80's
So have They.
Zorak: Lone Mantis of the Apocalypse
On only a vaguely related note, eMpTyV actually showed the video
for Weird Al's Coolio parody, "Amish Paradise" this morning. Maybe we
should start watching earlier in the day. It's probably where they stuff
TMBG stuff whenever it's released, too.
benjamin "Kick ARSE video!" sTone
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> On only a vaguely related note, eMpTyV actually showed the video
>for Weird Al's Coolio parody, "Amish Paradise" this morning. Maybe we
>should start watching earlier in the day. It's probably where they stuff
>TMBG stuff whenever it's released, too.
Geesh, all you U of I people ever do is post, post, post. :)
Naw, actually, the place to look for a new TMBG video is
on 120 Minutes. They'll play it at least once...so have
yer VCR's a rollin' when the moon's full, as it were.
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Shimbot
what the hell are you talking about? what "kind of music"?
Weird Al isn't anything like TMBG at all. Musically OR lyrically.
How can you claim that?
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Have you heard "everything you know is wrong"? Thsi song is a definate
style parody on TMBG. Here is my opinion, being a fan of both performers
(though swearing eternal allegence to J&J). Linnel and weird Al will
forever draw comparisons cue ot the accorians. However, the only place
where their stylings really cross are EYKIW and the Famous Polka.. TMBG
area far superior band, for a band's sake. Weird Al is one heck of a
satirist. That's the difference.
Phil
John Murray
Zorak: Lone Mantis of the Apocalypse <b-s...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On only a vaguely related note, eMpTyV actually showed the video
>for Weird Al's Coolio parody, "Amish Paradise" this morning. Maybe we
>should start watching earlier in the day. It's probably where they stuff
>TMBG stuff whenever it's released, too.
>
One more note on Wednessday "Amish Paradise" was the Number 5 "Most Wanted
Video". So someone must want to hear it, and have seen it three times(2 of
those was just the end).
Person Man
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writes:
> However, the only place
>where their stylings really cross are EYKIW and the Famous Polka.. TMBG
>area far superior band, for a band's sake. Weird Al is one heck of a
>satirist. That's the difference.
I could see Al doing Santa's Beard, too.
BlueDawg
Oh, I've been working on my own parady. Your imput, as always, is
welcomed...here goes:
Movin' up to Scotland, gonna eat a lot of Haggas.
Movin' up to Scotland, gonna eat me a lot of Haggas.
Hagas comes stuffed in guts, it was put there by some putz in a Barn.
If I hadn't read Sinclair, I'd eat some Haggas here,
Some slimy grey stuff in a Colon.
(refrain)
Leftover parts from a lamb, kinda reminds me of Spam
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Kilroy
BTW, is this band worth checking out? They seems kind of cool in their
randomness (I'm told the video has ninjas jumping out of an orchard), but
everyone I know hates the Peaches song because they play it every 5 minutes
in San Diego.
-Kilroy
"If it's not Scottish, it's crrrrrrap!"
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j proctor
>> accordian pole.Is the universe big enough for two crazy squeezebox players?
>>
>> is bad blood between these two, or jolly fun.
And has anyone other than me noticed how much "Kiss Me, Son of God" sounds
like it could've been a Weird Al song?
Mike Hoffman
of perspective on this whole "Weird Al"/TMBG issue. (I speak with some
personal knowledge here, as I'm a friend of Al's and have also interviewed
Flans a number of times, too).
Al is a fan of TMBG, has been since they started out. He recently recorded
an original song, "Everything You Know is Wrong," which is a "style
parody" of TMBG - it intentially sounds very much like them. He tried very
hard to *make* it sound like a TMBG song.
A few years ago, in an TV interview I conducted with Flans, I asked how he
felt about Al being a fan of theirs and if there could ever be a tour (or
at least a single show) where the two could play together. (I asked this
because I knew Al's interview was going to run back-to-back with the TMBG
interview, and thought I could get each performer to comment on the
other).
Flans was reluctant to say anything and declined to comment on camera. Off
the record, though, he indicated that TMBG were not really big Al fans and
although Al had made a number of attempts to suggest such an arrangement
(playing together), the band had politely turned him down, feeling
(although never telling him so directly) that his material and theirs are
not compatible. For whatever reason, TMBG just don't consider themselves
the same type of act.
Fans of both acts, such as myself, may tend to disagree. Accordions,
catchy music, and - let's face it - the notion that each, in their own
way, really is a "novelty act" with immense talent but somewhat limited
widespread commercial appeal.
A lot of people have "Weird Al" records and TMBG records... but would you
include them with other bands if someone asked you who your favorite
musicians were? I would, and a good percentage of those who read this
newsgroup would... but unless you're *really* into that open-minded,
novelty-conscious niche, you probably wouldn't - even if you owned every
record.
Personally, I'd love to see them onstage together - if not *sharing* the
stage, then at least on the same bill. And I think Al would love to see
that, too. But it will probably never happen.
* * * * *
And about that style parody: it's really good and reflects the earlier,
quirky, pre-John-Henry sound of the core TMBG duet. And any TMBG fans who
take it as a slap in the face really shouldn't - Al has respect for TMBG
and his style parodies are never intended as insults. It's the second
track on Al's new CD, "Bad Hair Day."
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Al I get the feeling he's just doing it for a laugh, and any
old laugh will do (And to me, they those laughs get real old
real fast). But when I hear TMBG, I get the impression that
they are trying to express a part of themselves, and they just
happy to funny guys. To my ear, they two entities inhabit two
different universes. If they ever went on stage together, then
everything would collapse into a black hole of tedium.
Mike
Mr. Me
>And about that style parody: it's really good and reflects the earlier,
>quirky, pre-John-Henry sound of the core TMBG duet. And any TMBG fans who
>take it as a slap in the face really shouldn't - Al has respect for TMBG
>and his style parodies are never intended as insults. It's the second
>track on Al's new CD, "Bad Hair Day."
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Andrew Shimamoto
: pedw...@gac.edu (Logan) wrote:
: >IMHO AL's been doing that kind of music since the early 80's
: So have They.
Actually Al's earlier than that. His second or third album came out in
83.
Al is an artist in his own right. Most of his songs are just humorous
parodies, but you get some that are timeless. "You Make Me," "I'll be
Mellow when I'm Dead," these songs, and a few more, are great songs. I
know lot's of people who think TMBG and Al sound alike, and in many ways
they do. They are on different scales, beyond a simple better/best
comparison. IBMWID is my favorite song, hands down, but all my friends
know me as is a TMBG fan.
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style of a certain band. An older song called "Velvet Elvis" sonuds like
every Police song. "Mr. Popiel" sounds like the B-52s. This is just what
Mr. Yankovic does.
Joe Schwartz
> A lot of people have "Weird Al" records and TMBG records... but would you
> include them with other bands if someone asked you who your favorite
> musicians were? I would, and a good percentage of those who read this
> newsgroup would... but unless you're *really* into that open-minded,
> novelty-conscious niche, you probably wouldn't - even if you owned every
> record.
My "favorite bands" are those bands whose albums I'll buy without hearing a
single song. There are very few bands on that list besides Weird Al and
TMBG. (The Bobs are on it, and The Presidents became an instant favorite.)
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: My "favorite bands" are those bands whose albums I'll buy without hearing a
: single song. There are very few bands on that list besides Weird Al and
: TMBG. (The Bobs are on it, and The Presidents became an instant favorite.)
My husband is a weatherman.. Great choice =) Although I'm severely
depressed because I wasn't early enough to catch the Loss of the NPR
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Michael F Metcalf
Speaking of Wierd Al... is it just me, or does his song
"Everything You Know is Wrong" from his latest CD, which has the
Amish paradise and Gump song on there sound ....
oh I don't know......
Remarkably TMBG-ish??
just a thought.... lemme know.... mail me...
Shimbot
mad...@copland.udel.edu (Michael F Metcalf) said:
>Speaking of Wierd Al... is it just me, or does his song
>"Everything You Know is Wrong" from his latest CD, which has the
>Amish paradise and Gump song on there sound ....
>
> oh I don't know......
>
> Remarkably TMBG-ish??
And the thread comes full circle :)
Phil