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"Indestructible Object" coming April 6th! Cover art, track listing, more...

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paradox

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Feb 7, 2004, 4:18:02 PM2/7/04
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It's almost here! Check out the EP's cover art, track listing, and
label info at http://www.tmbgnet.com

Just 2 more months folks!

-paradox

http://www.tmbgnet.com

Dar Dar Binks

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Feb 10, 2004, 11:51:21 AM2/10/04
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Just a thought from a European point of view...

Its always been my understanding that music publishing rules in the uk
restrict the number of tracks on a 'single' to four. Five songs makes it an
EP - which may seem a better product - but it puts the release outside the
realm of both the singles chart AND the album chart, which can be a bad move
commercially. I'd not heard of Barsuk records before, but browsing uk
shopping sites they seem to have plenty of Barsuk releases at 'normal'
prices (ie not imports) so there must be some European distribution.

I wonder if we will get the same release on the same date; or if we will get
some bastardised version like the debacle that was Mink Car uk?

Dar

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Feb 10, 2004, 1:06:36 PM2/10/04
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Dar Dar Binks wrote:

> Just a thought from a European point of view...
>
> Its always been my understanding that music publishing rules in the uk
> restrict the number of tracks on a 'single' to four. Five songs makes it an
> EP - which may seem a better product - but it puts the release outside the
> realm of both the singles chart AND the album chart, which can be a bad move
> commercially. I'd not heard of Barsuk records before, but browsing uk
> shopping sites they seem to have plenty of Barsuk releases at 'normal'
> prices (ie not imports) so there must be some European distribution.
>
> I wonder if we will get the same release on the same date; or if we will get
> some bastardised version like the debacle that was Mink Car uk?

If so, just order it from the barsuk website. You'll not only get the
regular version, you'll also get a nifty barsuk sticker.

-scratch

Dar Dar Binks

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Feb 10, 2004, 1:50:43 PM2/10/04
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> If so, just order it from the barsuk website. You'll not only get the
> regular version, you'll also get a nifty barsuk sticker.

Looks like I'll have to. Barsuk replied to my email:
-------------
Hello -
I don't have a definite answer for you on this one. At the present moment,
there is no UK distribution for this EP, but that my change. In any case,
you can always purchase online from Barsuk (www.barsuk.com/web.cgi?shop).
Cheers!
Christopher
Barsuk Records
-----------------

Ordering online is no problem. Its just... well, if everyone outside of the
USA buys their CD's online from the usa, this is bound to affect sales in
their home countries, right? And I would hate to see TMBG struggle to get
overseas releases due to poor record sales.

Dar


Robert Hutchinson

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Feb 10, 2004, 6:40:59 PM2/10/04
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Dar Dar Binks says...

> Ordering online is no problem. Its just... well, if everyone outside of the
> USA buys their CD's online from the usa, this is bound to affect sales in
> their home countries, right? And I would hate to see TMBG struggle to get
> overseas releases due to poor record sales.

With all due respect to TMBG, I can't exactly envision a situation where
this particular EP would sell like crazy in Europe and elsewhere,
overseas distribution or no.

--
Robert Hutchinson | "[Destiny's Child] got booed at the NBA
| playoffs. Even men in plush animal costumes
| don't get booed at the NBA playoffs."
| -- Fametracker.com

Dar Dar Binks

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Feb 11, 2004, 3:45:39 AM2/11/04
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> With all due respect to TMBG, I can't exactly envision a situation where
> this particular EP would sell like crazy in Europe and elsewhere,
> overseas distribution or no[t]

They've had two top-twenty hits in the UK! Have they ever been that high in
the US charts? Of course, to chart in a smaller country you dont have to
sell as many records, numerically speaking, but you still have to win a
majority over, and that requires good marketing. Its considered a
springboard (Flansburgh's words) for other markets. Every countries' music
critics scour the press of other markets hoping to discover the 'next big
thing' to write about before their peers do. I dont mean to over-emphasise
the importance of my own country - it works both ways. Successful British
artists are always trying to 'break' America; that is trying to remarket
their material in such a way that it can be noticed by a significant
majority in such a larger market.

I'm really not that enamoured with the music chart here in England. It's
full of manufactured dance-crossover pap. But if the cartoon-ska 'Boss Of
Me' can chart, then surely the infinitely cooler and more original 'Am I
Awake?' has as much of a chance if marketed correctly.

Dar


Robert Hutchinson

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Feb 11, 2004, 6:09:56 PM2/11/04
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Dar Dar Binks says...

> I'm really not that enamoured with the music chart here in England. It's
> full of manufactured dance-crossover pap. But if the cartoon-ska 'Boss Of
> Me' can chart, then surely the infinitely cooler and more original 'Am I
> Awake?' has as much of a chance if marketed correctly.

Well, how was "Boss of Me" marketed over there? Because over here, it was
pretty much "theme song to popular TV show, done by some band". They won
a Grammy for it over here, but Americans en masse have yet to beat a path
to their door.

Dar Dar Binks

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Feb 11, 2004, 8:54:39 PM2/11/04
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> Well, how was "Boss of Me" marketed over there? Because over here, it was
> pretty much "theme song to popular TV show, done by some band". They won
> a Grammy for it over here, but Americans en masse have yet to beat a path
> to their door.

Much the same. For the first time since Apollo18, there was a massive poster
campaign for the single. The posters featured Malcom so they were definately
appealing to people who knew the theme. But most importantly there was a
one-off gig in a decent sized London venue, where the band did an awesome
show (the best out of 13 I have attended) and Flansburgh pretty much begged
the audience to buy the single, saying it would change their lives. The
initial push (plus those who bought it on the strength of the tv tie-in,
presumably) got it straight in at number 21. Radio stations that would not
normally play TMBG due to strict playlist policies suddenly had to play it,
if only as part of their weekly chart show (it remained top 40 for a further
week).

Dar


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