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Salvadorwriter

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May 25, 2004, 10:32:44 PM5/25/04
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Pat Butler introduced the topic of Jose Perdomo on this
newsgroup by posting a message about him in another
thread entitled "Did Jim Morrison know Charlie Manson?"
Since Pat is a regular on this newsgroup, and since
she introduced Perdomo in a discussion thread herein,
I did not see the point in marking this thread "OT"
to indicate it is off-topic. When a regular on a
newsgroup introduces a topic, that topic becomes
fair game for discussion, even if said topic has
nothing to do with the newsgroup's general category
of interest.

Who is Jose Perdomo? He is a central figure in
the John Lennon murder case. Perdomo was the
doorman/security guard tasked with protecting
the entrance of the Dakota apartment/condominium
complex in Manhattan on the night John Lennon was
shot and killed on December 8, 1980. (Jim Morrison's
37th birthday)

Lennon was entering the Dakota, where he own
several apartments, when he was shot and killed.

Perdomo was also an anti-Castro Cuban, the type used
by US Intelligence in the Bay of Pigs Invasion and
later in the burglary of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's
office.

In an effort to discredit me, Pat posted an obscene
message directed at me on rec.music.beatles by a thug
who uses the screen name .Tna Yzarc! That message
dealt with Jose Perdomo.

The following is Pat's recent posting followed by an
excerpt from my book, "Rethinking John Lennon's
Assassination," which describes the Perdomo article
Pat decided to post:

[Pat Butler]
> I see they think pretty highly of [Salvador] on other
> newsgroups as well...

[article about Jose Perdomo, posted by Pat]
> From: .Tna Yzarc!.. (heb...@helle.co.ukkllk)
> Subject: Salvadorwriter FUCK OFF AND STOP SPAMMING YOU
> ASSHOLE........ Re: Jose Perdomo, doorman or security
> guard? Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
> Date: 2003-06-15 15:49:52 PST
>
> [...]
> news:20030615182505...@mb-m25.news.cs.com...

[Salvador]
>> Recently someone stated that Jose Perdomo
>> (the guy guarding the entrance to the Dakota the night
>> John Lennon was killed) should be held accountable
>> since his job was to guard the tenants of the Dakota.
>>
>> What do you think?

[.Tna Yzarc!]
> i think you're a pathetic stupid cunt and you should go
> back to fucking your mom.

==== [end of message] =======

Chapter 4: FBI Surveillance on the Internet

(Excerpt from "Rethinking John Lennon's Assassination:
The FBI's War on Rock Stars" by Salvador Astucia)

The Internet Police
In the spring of 2003, I began posting my findings
about John Lennon's murder on an Internet discussion
forum about the Beatles: rec.music.beatles. A few
people responded in a civilized manner, but overall,
the response was vitriolic, demented, vulgar, and
sadistic. The participants on rec.music.beatles quickly
became more interested in learning and publicizing my
true identity than responding to my research. Their
message was clear and uniform: Stop discussing Lennon's
murder! This reaction was not entirely unexpected. Over
the past six years, I have posted political and historical
commentary on numerous Internet discussion forums and
typically I get similar reactions when posting
controversial articles. Having stated that, the loathsome
comments I received from individuals on rec.music.beatles
in response to my Lennon articles stands out in comparison
to other discussion forums. Usually I post to serious,
political forums, so a degree of nastiness is expected.
Why would I be greeted with such rudeness from an overtly
light-hearted forum? It's the Beatles, after all, so why
all the fuss? Because the Beatles' leader, John Lennon,
was one of the most politically active and highly
influential voices in the tumultuous Sixties.

Surprisingly, the most viscous and vulgar comments I
received from rec.music.beatles dealt with a lapse in
Lennon's security on the night he was killed. The
discussion centered around Jose Perdomo, the security
guard tasked to protect the iron-gate entrance of the
Dakota on the night Lennon was killed. As previously
stated, Perdomo was an anti-Castro Cuban, a group with
strong ties to the US intelligence community since the
failed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. On June 17, 2003,
I started a discussion thread entitled Jose Perdomo,
doorman or security guard? It was a spin-off from another
discussion between Derek Larsson and someone named Cromwell.
Derek wrote: "There also seems to be a profound lack of
security provided by doorman Jose Perdomo - whose job it
was to protect all tenants (several of them celebrities)
from strangers and hangers-on and who was the only
'eye-witness' to the shooting. His background needs to
be investigated." Cromwell replied: "He was a doorman NOT
A BODYGUARD." I disagreed: "'Doorman' is a misleading
title," I remarked. "The doorman at the Dakota is a
glorified security guard. I know because I've been there.
I talked to one of the doormen. He was definitely
security...The word 'doorman' suggests he is a bellhop.
I'm not even sure if doorman is a genuine title or
something the media created. The doorman does not stand
by a door, he stands at the entrance of the Dakota. The
entrance is about 15 feet wide with iron gates on both
sides, but the gates are normally open. Derek is correct
in stating that Jose Perdomo's job was to protect the
tenants."

The Internet police immediately launched an assault to
thwart the security-related discussion. Someone using the
screen name Tna Yzarc re-titled the thread "Salvatorwriter,
asshole, bumboy, neo-nazi or security guard?" I responded
by changing it back to the original title and recited the
poem If by Rudyard Kipling. Tna Yzarc retitled it
"Salvadorwriter, moron or murderer?" I continued changing
the title back and reciting If a bit more. Tna Yzarc changed
the titled to "Salvadorwriter FUCK OFF AND STOP SPAMMING
YOU ASSHOLE." Tna Yzarc then wrote the following extremely
vulgar comment: "I think you're a pathetic stupid cunt and
you should go back to fucking your mom." Someone named Jim
sarcastically replied, "Wow - what a CLEVER response!!"
Black Monk replied, "You think Sally deserves better?"
Charlie Gauger (aka, Mister Charlie) remarked, "Hey, it
works for me." Susan added, "A bit crude, but it works."
Charlie Gauger (aka, Mister Charlie) added the following
insults: "Of course, like a dog returning to its own vomit
Sal comes back yet again." Someone called "Ehtue"
complimented Charlie Gauger on his word choice: "What
a turn of phrase! I'll steal that one for sure some time
in the future! Somewhere, somehow." Fourteen sample messages
in the cited discussion thread about Jose Perdomo are provided
in Appendix K. (See messages 56 through 69.)

...On March 7, 2001, former FBI Director Louis Freeh addressed
the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce in McLean, Virginia. In
his speech, he stated that Cybercrimes had become a priority
for the FBI, and consequently, the Bureau had established "16
offices with computer squads and 200 agents nationwide working
full-time on computer issues." In addition, Freeh said "the bureau
has established new laboratory units to deal with confiscated cyberevidence."

On February 11, 2003, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, III
testified before the United States Senate Select Committee
on Intelligence in Washington, D.C. regarding the War on
Terrorism. Mueller advised the Committee that "Cyberterrorism"
is an emerging threat. In effect, Mueller told the Committee
that the FBI has people monitoring the Internet aggressively.
Here is an excerpt from Mueller's statement to the Committee
regarding Cyberterrorism:

===quote on===

Cyberterrorism is also clearly an emerging threat. Terrorist
groups are increasingly computer savvy, and some probably
are acquiring the ability to use cyber attacks to inflict
isolated and brief disruptions of US infrastructure. Due
to the prevalence of publicly available hacker tools, many
of these groups probably already have the capability to
launch denial-of-service and other nuisance attacks against
Internet-connected systems. As terrorists become more
computer savvy, their attack options will only increase.

My greatest concern, Mr. Chairman, is that our enemies are
trying to acquire dangerous new capabilities with which to
harm Americans. Terrorists worldwide have ready access to
information on chemical, biological, radiological, and
nuclear--or CBRN--weapons via the Internet. Acquisition
of such weapons would be a huge morale boost for those
seeking our destruction, while engendering widespread fear
among Americans and our allies.

===quote off===

On October 31, 2002, Mueller gave a speech at the Information Technology
Association Of America (ITAA) in Fairfax, Virginia.
The speech was about combating E-Crime and Cyberterrorism.
Mueller boasted about a unit in San Francisco, which he helped
create, that was implemented "exclusively to prosecute computer
crimes and intellectual property crimes." Mueller also bragged
about a "strike force" in the San Jose area that addressed
computer crimes. He remarked that similar units have been
implemented across the country, modeled after the units in
San Francisco and San Jose. Here is an excerpt from Mueller's
speech to the ITAA:

===quote on===
I will tell you that when I served as U.S. Attorney in San
Francisco, I worked with many of your companies. And many
of those companies were a part of ITAA. And I want to say
that this association represents many of the most important
and I would say most vibrant companies in the United States
today. That's actually underscored by the fact that there
is something like $800 billion in revenue in the year 2001
attributable to ITAA member companies. That is truly
remarkable, and it says something not only about our economy
today, but about our economy in the future.

I want to talk a little bit about San Francisco and what we
did in San Francisco, because I think it has become, with
Marty [Stansell-Gamm, Chief, Department of Justice Computer
Crime and Intellectual Property Section] -- who is up here
-- and with Paul [McNulty, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern
District of Virginia] and with other U.S. Attorneys around
the country, a way of doing things. We started a unit in
San Francisco that was set up exclusively to prosecute
computer crimes and intellectual property crimes. While
I was out there, I saw a necessity to staff that unit with
individuals who were both talented prosecutors and who
understood and could work with the technology. And whether
it is computer crimes cases, or hacking and denial of service
cases, or the intellectual property cases, you need that
combination.

We were very lucky, particularly in the San Jose area,
to have had a strike force that addressed computer crimes,
established by the police chief and the district attorney
there. What I wanted to do in San Francisco was to complement
that state and local law enforcement network with FBI
agents and with the prosecutors that would have the
expertise in that area. Since that time, across the country,
there have been a number of similar units set up, which I
believe is the way to go.
===quote off===

Based on the cited statements made by Louis Freeh and Robert
Mueller, we know several things about the FBI's Cyberterrorism
operation. First, the Bureau has 16 offices across the country
set up with computer squads dedicated to Cyberterrorism and
related computer issues. Second, 200 FBI agents work full-time
running the stated computer squads in 16 offices. Third,
computer squads (aka, strike forces) are known to have a
presence in San Francisco and San Jose. Fourth, other computer
squads across the United States were modeled after the offices
in San Francisco and San Jose.

[The FBI's Policy on Informants]
...The following text--from the FBI's official website, under
Frequently Asked Questions--is the FBI's policy regarding its
use of informants:

===quote on===
Q: What is the FBI's policy on the use of informants?

A: The courts have recognized that the government's use
of informants is lawful and often essential to the effectiveness
of properly authorized law enforcement investigations. However,
use of informants to assist in the investigation of criminal
activity may involve an element of deception, intrusion into
the privacy of individuals, or cooperation with persons whose
reliability and motivation may be open to question. Although it
is legally permissible for the FBI to use informants in its
investigations, special care is taken to carefully evaluate and
closely supervise their use so the rights of individuals under
investigation are not infringed. The FBI can only use informants
consistent with specific guidelines issued by the Attorney
General that control the use of informants.

Q: Are informants regular employees of the FBI?

A: No. Informants are individuals who supply information to the
FBI on a confidential basis. They are not hired or trained
employees of the FBI, although they may receive compensation
in some instances for their information and expenses.
===quote off===

[There] are about 37,000 Usenet newsgroups and only 200 agents
assigned to the Bureau's computer squads, per former Director
Freeh. Obviously 200 agents cannot monitor 37,000 newsgroups.
But this is easily solved by using informants and by streamlining
the number of newsgroups under surveillance. Streamlining
newsgroups means they are likely assigned one of three
surveillance levels: Monitor, Penetrate, or Control. Monitor
simply means agents or informants read articles, but do not
respond. If there is a burst of activity, the monitoring "guard"
notifies [others] and writers are assigned to reply to the
objectionable articles. Penetrate means several informants--and occasionally
agents--are assigned to read articles and post
responses at will to objectionable material on newsgroups on
a targeted newsgroup. Control means one or more informants or
agents are opinion leaders on a targeted newsgroup. Opinion
leaders often post entire articles on a targeted newsgroup
without responding to an objectionable article. In addition,
opinion leaders often have their own websites.

[END OF EXCERPT]

====
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PButler111

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May 26, 2004, 11:15:23 AM5/26/04
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>Subject: Jose Perdomo, John Lennon & the Internet Police
>From: salvado...@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
>Date: 5/25/2004 9:32 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20040525223244...@mb-m02.news.cs.com>

>
>Pat Butler introduced the topic of Jose Perdomo on this
>newsgroup by posting a message about him in another
>thread entitled "Did Jim Morrison know Charlie Manson?"

No, Patricia introduced the topic of you being a fucking spammer who isn't
welcome on any newsgroup. Nothing else you have to say is of interest or
relevant to this newsgroup.

Alexander DeLarge

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May 26, 2004, 11:33:50 AM5/26/04
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It's PAT:

>No, Patricia introduced the topic of you being a fucking spammer who isn't
>welcome on any newsgroup. Nothing else you have to say is of interest or
>relevant to this newsgroup.

Speak for yourself, Petunia Pig. Id rather read Salvador's postings than
yours any day of the week. At least he speculates on interesting subjects,
all you do is piss and moan whenever you arent the center of attention. It's
more a case of YOU not being welcome on any newsgroup, you fucking ugly sow.
Salvador can post whatever he pleases.

When did YOU become the "internet police", bitch?


Salvadorwriter

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May 27, 2004, 12:25:16 AM5/27/04
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[Salvador]

>> Pat Butler introduced the topic of Jose Perdomo on this
>> newsgroup by posting a message about him in another
>> thread entitled "Did Jim Morrison know Charlie Manson?"

[Pat Butler]


> No, Patricia introduced the topic of you being a fucking
> spammer who isn't welcome on any newsgroup. Nothing
> else you have to say is of interest or relevant to this
> newsgroup.

You started the discussion about Jose Perdomo & John
Lennon by posting a thug's response to a message I posted
nearly a year ago on rec.music.beatles. All I did was
expand on the theme you started.

Nuttin wrong wit dat.

Salvador

====== [original message] ======

Subject: Jose Perdomo, John Lennon & the Internet Police
From: salvado...@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)

Date: 5/25/04 10:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20040525223244...@mb-m02.news.cs.com>

Pat Butler introduced the topic of Jose Perdomo on this
newsgroup by posting a message about him in another
thread entitled "Did Jim Morrison know Charlie Manson?"

===quote on===

===quote off===

[END OF EXCERPT]

===

Also see Astucia's homepage: http://www.jfkmontreal.com

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