L'america
Bruce Coryell
for the movie "Zabriskie Point". (And, coincidentally enough, my high
school principal's name was
Donald J. Zabriskie, and I was in high school when that movie came out
(1970 or 1971))...
Daedalus4 wrote:
> Does anyone know what the meaning of the song L'america is?
Daedalus4
Marcia Philbin
just kills me. And those sinister lyrics! Just awesome.
I think Jim wrote a poem called "L'america"; it might be in the
"Wilderness" collection.
MP
PButler111
>just kills me. And those sinister lyrics! Just awesome.
>I think Jim wrote a poem called "L'america"; it might be in the
>"Wilderness" collection.
"L'America" = Latin America
LexMeister
>Does anyone know what the meaning of the song L'america is?
L'america looks french to me and guess it is a word-play. Because in
french it's l'amerique.
I think it's a story of a foreigner going to america (i took a trip
down to L'america, to trade...).
LexMeister
Those who Race toward Death
Those who wait
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PButler111
>L'america looks french to me and guess it is a word-play. Because in
>french it's l'amerique.
>I think it's a story of a foreigner going to america (i took a trip
>down to L'america, to trade...).
>
>
>LexMeister
>
It's not French. "L'America" = Latin America.
Cecrle
>>No, I don't ... but isn't it an amazing song? That doomy, ominous intro
>>just kills me. And those sinister lyrics! Just awesome.
>>I think Jim wrote a poem called "L'america"; it might be in the
>>"Wilderness" collection.
>
>"L'America" = Latin America
Oh...I'd never thought of it that way....I always assumed it was like a
French abbreviation or something... ?
-FC
PButler111
>French abbreviation or something... ?
>
>
>-FC
>
No, it was written for a movie with a Latin American theme, thus "L'America."
It never ended up making it into the movie, though.
Bruce Coryell
Cecrle wrote:
> pbutl...@aol.comnexxt (PButler111) wrote:
> >>No, I don't ... but isn't it an amazing song? That doomy, ominous intro
> >>just kills me. And those sinister lyrics! Just awesome.
> >>I think Jim wrote a poem called "L'america"; it might be in the
> >>"Wilderness" collection.
> >
> >"L'America" = Latin America
>
porsc...@webtv.net
I'm not saying that you're wrong but where did you hear about that?
Sir Zeus
>I'm not saying that you're wrong but where did you hear
>about that?
It's in many Doors books, including John's book. I don't think Ray talked
about it in his book. Anyway, the director (?) of the movie went to the
studio to hear them perfrom the song and he decided not to use it. The Doors
decided to put it on the "L.A. Woman" album.
Bruce Coryell
MrMojoKing
>Does anyone know what the meaning of the song L'america is?
>
>
great '60's Italian director Michelangelo Antonioni for his film about American
hippies called "Zabriske Point" (named after a place in Death Valley, CA).
Unfortunatly, when the group played the song for the aged director in their
tiny, cramped Doors' studio it was (as Ray said) "just too loud". The director
turned them down cold, which was just as well, since the movie tanked. As for
the meaning of the song, the opening stanza describes a drug deal, since a
"pint of gold" refers to Acapulco Gold, or marijuana. Whatever the meaning is,
it remains one of the Doors' most "sinister" sounding songs.
Sir Zeus
>the meaning of the song, the opening stanza describes a drug deal, since a
>"pint of gold" refers to Acapulco Gold, or marijuana.
I always thought that in the beginning of the song, it sounds like someone
taking a big drag off a joint.
Sir Zeus
(on
>which L'America appears) -- producer Paul Rothchild.
It's a shame that Paul wasn't involved with the album. He thought that The
Doors had lost their touch. I bet he was really kickin himself when it
became a big success. Plus ya never know, maybe the album would be even
better with Rothchild at the controls.
Sir Zeus
>cocktail music (he's right, in a way, but it's the coolest cocktail music
I've
>ever heard). I think Paul liked the "Doors sound" more than the band
>themselves. LA WOMAN has no "Doors sound" (i.e.space-like & ancient)
songs --
>"Love Her Madly" comes the closest. Even MORRISON HOTEL had "Waiting For
The
>Sun" and "Indian Summer" to remind us of the earlier days... I think Paul
knew
>the end was near (he thought Jim's voice was gone) & jumped ship...
Yeah even though the "Doors sound" was gone by "L.A. Woman", it was still a
terriffic album and it was hailed by critics. Some critics went as far to
say it was "better than the first 2 albums."
Sir Zeus
he
>tell you these things?
God you're such a bitch. Did you notice how he said "I *THINK* he knew..."
"I *THINK* he thought...." You're such a miserable fucking bitch. You just
can't fuckin be nice to ANYONE. All you're doing is trying to provoke yet
ANOTHER argument. Fuckin bitch!
Sir Zeus
>having a little fun, maybe, but she wasn't being particularly mean.
Come on Marisa, you know Patricia. She wasn't having a little fun, she was
just trying to be a mean bitch like she always does.
MrMojoKing
MrMojoKing
>>Ironically, the biggest pot smoker wasn't involed with the LA WOMAN album
>(on
>>which L'America appears) -- producer Paul Rothchild.
>
>
>Doors had lost their touch. I bet he was really kickin himself when it
>became a big success. Plus ya never know, maybe the album would be even
>better with Rothchild at the controls.
>
>
PButler111
>cocktail music (he's right, in a way, but it's the coolest cocktail music
>I've
>ever heard). I think Paul liked the "Doors sound" more than the band
>themselves. LA WOMAN has no "Doors sound" (i.e.space-like & ancient) songs
>--
>"Love Her Madly" comes the closest. Even MORRISON HOTEL had "Waiting For The
>Sun" and "Indian Summer" to remind us of the earlier days... I think Paul
>knew
>the end was near (he thought Jim's voice was gone) & jumped ship...
>
Is that what he knew? Is that what he thought? Really? When exactly did he
tell you these things?
MrMojoKing
he was hearing JDM's last album as a singer (he was right). The fact that he
didn't produce the last album tells even some of limited intelligence what he
thought of the material. BTW, why don't you add to the conversation instead of
trying to pick a fight.
PButler111
>Sir Zeus wrote in message ...
><<Come on Marisa, you know Patricia. She wasn't having a little fun,
>she was just trying to be a mean bitch like she always does.>>
>
>theories about what the man she was so close to thought and felt,
>that's all. I think I'd be, in fact, I was a little amused on her
>behalf. Think about it Josh, it must be really strange to have had a
>famous SO...
Thanks, Marisa. Of course you're right, but forget about getting Joshy to
actually think about anything. He's just not capable. But I have him
killfiled, so it really doesn't bother me anymore. Thanks anyway, though.
Sir Zeus
>actually think about anything. He's just not capable. But I have him
>killfiled, so it really doesn't bother me anymore. Thanks anyway, though.
If I bother her, then she gets bothered WAAAAY too easily.
Cecrle
>>Is that what he knew? Is that what he thought? Really? When exactly did
>he
>>tell you these things?
>
>"I *THINK* he thought...." You're such a miserable fucking bitch. You just
>can't fuckin be nice to ANYONE. All you're doing is trying to provoke yet
>ANOTHER argument. Fuckin bitch!
No, he said "I think" only once, and presented the other things as if he'd
heard them said himself.
Why does everyone doubt PButler when she cites people she *has* actually
talked to, but other people can make vague claims as if they're true and
people are fine with it?
-FC
RANDY DIXON
First of all, Paul Rothchild is dead. He died of
cancer a couple years ago...and next Jim had
an incredible way of censoring imself at times...
for example: In the song, "Build Me A Woman",
the lyric..."Sunday Trucker, Christian Motherfucker...was given the
"light" treatment.
Jim would sing it..."Sunday Trucker, Christain Motherfu...ah...and the
song mentioned in the previous posts, "Come people don't you get so
down, you know the rain man is coming to town...to change the weather,
change your luck...and then he'll teach ya how to (f**k.)" Of course he
and the other doors paused there to give the audience a chance to
"fill-in the blank."
If you don't have the box set, get it. There's a very "naughty" version
of Gloria. Let's just say he was asking / telling Gloria to give him a
"Lewinsky".
PButler111
>Date: Wed, 11 August 1999 10:01 PM EDT
>Message-id: <6979-37...@newsd-173.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
>
>
>First of all, Paul Rothchild is dead. He died of
>cancer a couple years ago..
Paul actually died over 4 years ago -- what does that have to do with anything?
LexMeister
>cocktail music (he's right, in a way, but it's the coolest cocktail music I've
>ever heard). I think Paul liked the "Doors sound" more than the band
>themselves. LA WOMAN has no "Doors sound" (i.e.space-like & ancient) songs --
>"Love Her Madly" comes the closest. Even MORRISON HOTEL had "Waiting For The
>Sun" and "Indian Summer" to remind us of the earlier days... I think Paul knew
>the end was near (he thought Jim's voice was gone) & jumped ship...
I gotta make some correction on this:
First of all, you could cut that ---even now part, 'cause Paul died a
few years ago (R.I.P.)
Secondly, he had rehearsed with the Doors for about a month, but said
it didn't work beacause he couldn't make all of them play decently the
same time. There weren't a lot of songs finished yet, only LA woman
and Riders which he thought "were great, great songs."
About the finished album he said: "There were two excellend cuts (LA
Woman and Riders). As far as I'm concerned, you can take take the
entire rest of the album and throw it in the garbage can."
Then the reporter asks him about Lover her Madly, he states:
"That's the song I was talking about that I said sounded like cocktail
music. That's the song that drove me out of the studio. That it sold a
million copies means nothing to me. It's still bad music"
source: An interview with Paul Rothchild by Blair Jackson, BAM (1981)
MrMojoKing
A Tribute To Jim Morrison". He felt the band was exhausted, particularly Jim,
during the inital recording sessions for LA Woman and "just didn't have it" to
make a good album. I think (see, I said "I think") that kind of woke the band
out of their lethargy and helped them make a great (IMO) final album.
MrMojoKing
He was a big reason behind the "Doors sound" and in many ways was the fifth
Door like George Martin was the fifth Beatle.
But "Texas Radio" doesn't belong in the garbage can...