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Deano

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Oct 9, 2001, 7:47:29 PM10/9/01
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I first heard the Corrs music back in 95. Every morning for a while
thier first recording FNF was played on a local tv station here, as a
sort of advetorial. There was no video of the band or anything, just
a pic of the album cover to accompany the music, so u couldn't tell
just how good looking the girls really were.

Being into "alternative" music back then, I was immediately struck
by the quality of the songs, both lyrically and musically in the way
their Celtic influences were seamlessly incorporated into the music.

FNG was a melancholy recording dealing with issues of life,love, and
meaning. It's rather revealing to compare the packaging of this cd with
their most recent, In Blue. On the FNF cd cover is an artistic looking
B+W photo of the band, whilst on the back of the cd and on the inside
booklet we see pics of the band wearing respectable suits in moody,
contemplative poses. Andrea is sitting on a blarney stone thing.

Now compare this with their latest cd, and the contrast is striking.
On the front of my cd of In Blue, Andrea is bent over looking into the
camera in a provocative manner. While in the booklet inside the cd we
find lots of colourful glamourous pics of the girls. There's even a
nice pic of Jim - but i prefer the girls pics coz i'm not gay
like Chris or toddstreet.

This transition from deep and contemplative to glitzy glamour in the
way the band are marketed is also reflected in their music.
FNF was a deep, meaningful recording reflecting on life,love, meaning.

For example, on "Secret Life" Andrea sings

"Why we're all left in ignorance
Turning to despair
Philosophy and theology offer us a glimpse
At something more incredible
Than you and I"

On "Someday" she sings

"A fragrant memory is soon to fade
We lived our love of make believe, dreams and fairy tales
Now we say goodbye, habitual romance
A rose without her petals and a song without a dance"

And on the title track,

"All alone staring out watching her life going by
When her days are grey and her nights are black
Different shades of mundane"

Now compare this with the schmultzy offerings on In Blue

"So go on,go on,come on leave me breathless
Tempt me, tease me ...."

or

"You're irresistible-natural,physical
It's indefinable-magical,ilogical
So make-you-mineable..."

The difference is obvious.
As is the decline in their Celtic influences.

Nowadays i have to hide my Corrs CDs away so that people can't see.
That's because if you're a Corrs fan of the male persuasion people
assume that you're infatuated with Andrea, Caroline and Sharon (or Jim
in the case of Chris and toddstreet). And they tease u about it. They
don't realize that the Corrs were once a credible "alternative" band
before they became (pop)ular.

i thank you for your patience and tranquility


Adam F

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Oct 9, 2001, 10:11:54 PM10/9/01
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yes tis all true, i went to see them in 97, they were much better

nevertheless im going to see them one last time in the hope they play many
of their old songs


Agamemnon

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Oct 10, 2001, 1:15:23 AM10/10/01
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I agree with you..
but not all of their current songs are bad, just the ones that are written
with Lange and a couple of other ppl
I don't think Rain on the IB album is bad at all
but what they do with their music is their choice, I think they make more
money now (comapred to b4), but WOULD IT MAKE THEM HAPPIER ?

Agamemnon


Scott Harrison

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Oct 10, 2001, 5:47:33 AM10/10/01
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I can't believe what I'm hearing!!! I love every album as much as the previous.
What do you people want? The same album released each time? Things change.
They've toured the world so many times in in the last 6 years. Do you think
after everything the band has experienced since FNF they are going to produce
the same songs? No. Things change and they EVOLVE. To me, that's exactly what
the band has done over the years. Personally I dont think there is one bad song
on 'In Blue', and the same goes for FNF. The Corrs write their own songs (with
the exception of a few collaborations), are all great musicians and play their
own instruments, which sadly I can't say the same for some other 'artists'.
The following is something which I posted a while ago, but I wish to post
it again for those who missed it:
"I'll just give you my perspective on each album. Please don't flame me
because this is only my opinion:) 'Forgiven Not Forgotten' (1995) seemed to be
an album that set them apart from what was happening on the radio at the time,
with a very obvious use of traditional Irish music mixed with rock and riding
on the wave of the success of Riverdance which came out the same year. 'Talk on
Corners' (1998) to me seemed to be a much more intimate album. The kind of
album where you could turn out the lights, light a candle and drift off to
sleep listening too (I'm a romantic at heart:) 'Unplugged' (1999) was recorded
with a small audience for MTV. It was a back to basics approach which worked
exceptionally well. It actually takes more talent to pull of a totally acoustic
live album than it is to hide behind the production of a studio enhanced album,
and I feel the Corrs proved themselves beyond all expectations. 'In Blue'
(2000) seemed to be a more pop oriented album with the slick studio production,
but yet still retains the song writing and lyrical style that I love so much
from the Corrs. Each album has something different to offer, but in my mind,
all are magnificent in their own right".
Anyways, I saw the Corrs on the 1st sept and I'll be going tomorrow night.

Anthony Campbell

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Oct 10, 2001, 6:24:16 AM10/10/01
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I agree.. where is the passion in their lyrics and music. They aren't
different to all the other millions of pop bands out there anymore..

I used to be happy to tell people I liked the Corrs.. not anymore..


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Biggles

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Oct 10, 2001, 7:27:35 AM10/10/01
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Deano <De...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Snip

> Andrea is sitting on a blarney stone thing.
>
> Snip
I know things are a bit upside down in the Antipodies, but sitting on the
Blarney Stone would be quite a feat

Lawrence J.Ryz

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Oct 10, 2001, 3:15:27 PM10/10/01
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Well I have to say that the celtic influence is somewhat lacking lately so
the 1st post sums up my views too. There is nothing revolutionary about in
blue.

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Doug Berger

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Oct 10, 2001, 6:53:17 PM10/10/01
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:47:29 +1300, "Deano" <De...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>|I first heard the Corrs music back in 95. Every morning for a while
>|thier first recording FNF was played on a local tv station here, as a
>|sort of advetorial. There was no video of the band or anything, just
>|a pic of the album cover to accompany the music, so u couldn't tell
>|just how good looking the girls really were.

<snip>


>|Nowadays i have to hide my Corrs CDs away so that people can't see.
>|That's because if you're a Corrs fan of the male persuasion people
>|assume that you're infatuated with Andrea, Caroline and Sharon (or Jim
>|in the case of Chris and toddstreet). And they tease u about it. They
>|don't realize that the Corrs were once a credible "alternative" band
>|before they became (pop)ular.

I agree that they are moving away from some of the earlier work but I don't
fault them for that. They want to be a Pop group. To be a Pop group they have to
appeal to the broad audience.

I love their acoustic versions of their songs, their musicianship is not in
question which puts them above the manufactured Pop groups out there today.

They did those songs with Mutt Lange because Lange is a successful writer and
producer here in the states and the Corrs still haven't reached the US market
like in the way they have in Europe and Australia.

'In Blue' has grown on me and I really like the other songs like Radio and
Somebody for Someone.

Would like them to continue to do FNF all the time, sure, but unless they really
go over to the Pop side, I will enjoy any new stuff they put out.


Doug Berger : cadfileATyahooDoTcom

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Chris Cox

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Oct 10, 2001, 7:58:30 PM10/10/01
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"Anthony Campbell" <gwy...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> I agree.. where is the passion in their lyrics and music. They aren't
> different to all the other millions of pop bands out there anymore..

Bah!

toddstreet

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Oct 10, 2001, 8:22:34 PM10/10/01
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He's obviously never seen them live. Being the same as everyone else is
definitely not something I'd criticise them of. Opinion is a wonderful
thing, I suppose.

Go the Forest,
Todd Street.

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Chris Cox

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Oct 10, 2001, 8:26:25 PM10/10/01
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"toddstreet" <todds...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> He's obviously never seen them live. Being the same as everyone else is
> definitely not something I'd criticise them of. Opinion is a wonderful
> thing, I suppose.

Opinions are like arseholes. Therefore this Anthony Campbell bloke's an
opinion! :-)

Scott Harrison

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Oct 10, 2001, 10:10:25 PM10/10/01
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I'm interested to know if you people that are critisising the Corrs are from
America or where?

Anthony Campbell

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Oct 11, 2001, 1:15:32 AM10/11/01
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I've been a fan of the Corrs since FnF was released. I have all the albums,
including Unplugged of course.

I have the Royal Albert Hall concert and Lansdowne Road concert on video.

In Blue was a bunch of pop trash - turn on any live performance of Haste To
The Wedding and you'll see why I fell in love with this band.

As for seeing them live - I will be 6th row centre on Tuesday.

If In Blue had been their first album I would never have followed them..
there is nothing in it which distinctively seperates them from other pop
bands. FnF, ToC and UnP all had a unique Corrs sound. IB is a bunch of
synthesizers and computer generated effects.

AJC

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Scott Harrison

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Oct 11, 2001, 2:05:15 AM10/11/01
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Why does everyone have to be so critical of others?!?! Who care if you don't
like In Blue!? I do, and I also love FNF, TOC and Unplugged. You can't please
everybody. Get over it! P.S I'll be at the concert tonight... again:)

Chris Cox

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Oct 11, 2001, 2:29:41 AM10/11/01
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> Why does everyone have to be so critical of others?!?! Who care if you
don't
> like In Blue!? I do, and I also love FNF, TOC and Unplugged. You can't
please
> everybody. Get over it!

Yeah, I agree. I got FNF last week (had TOC, Unplugged and IB already) and
love it, but it doesn't change my view of IB. I really enjoy it. It has the
added bonus of sounding awesome with a decent set of subs like those in my
car ;) And the IB version of Radio is one of the most awesome driving rock
songs I've heard in a long time!

It might not be as far removed from the other pop albums out there as far as
style goes, but by god when it comes to quality and quality of performance
live, nobody stacks up against them.

Chris


scake

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Oct 11, 2001, 3:39:27 AM10/11/01
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"Chris Cox" <cc...@sickofspam.medeserv.com> wrote in message
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> And the IB version of Radio is one of the most awesome driving rock
> songs I've heard in a long time!

The bass pumps big time in Radio! :)


Chris Cox

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Oct 11, 2001, 7:35:18 PM10/11/01
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"Roy Sette" <k...@rahul.net> wrote in message
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> Our distinguished colleague, "scake" scribed:

>
> >The bass pumps big time in Radio! :)
>
> Yes, it's quite oppresive. :(
>
> Thump, thump, thump. Music to some, I suppose.

It's alright. It gets boring if it's every song (insert any crap arsed
dance group here), but it's different to what the Corrs did in the
beginning. AS someone else asked, do you just want them to churn out FNF
and TOC in alternation for the rest of their careers?

Chris

Anthony Campbell

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Oct 11, 2001, 8:35:26 PM10/11/01
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If it kept them away from mainstream pop music, then yes.

Can't you see what is happening? They've only released three studio albums
and an unplugged album and they're already brining out a "Greatest Hits"
cd.. and if you check the tracklisting I dont think you'll find all that
many songs that were actually hits. In fact some of them weren't even
released as singles in most countries I believe.

Now, be this The Corrs doing, or their management - I can't say. But the
talent they have is being wasted on making In Blue style music. I have heard
live performances of In Blue songs and I liked them - it is the synthesizers
and computer generated rubbish that is being editted in that I am opposed
to. I want to hear THEM, not the sound techs.

AJC

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Adrian Wymer

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Oct 11, 2001, 8:36:24 PM10/11/01
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Hey Hey I'll be in Row 6 as well. Seat 5 :-)

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scake

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Oct 12, 2001, 12:26:28 AM10/12/01
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I meant the bass line... I too do not like "dance" music.


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> Our distinguished colleague, "scake" scribed:
>

> >The bass pumps big time in Radio! :)
>

> Yes, it's quite oppresive. :(
>
> Thump, thump, thump. Music to some, I suppose.
>
>

> --
> Roy
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scake

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Oct 12, 2001, 2:23:16 AM10/12/01
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I don't recall IB having a thumping bass beat in any of the songs, although
I haven't listened to it recently.
Dido took over for a while...

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Anderson Lie

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"Anthony Campbell" <gwy...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> If it kept them away from mainstream pop music, then yes.
>
> Can't you see what is happening? They've only released three studio albums
> and an unplugged album and they're already brining out a "Greatest Hits"
> cd.. and if you check the tracklisting I dont think you'll find all that
> many songs that were actually hits. In fact some of them weren't even
> released as singles in most countries I believe.
>
> Now, be this The Corrs doing, or their management - I can't say. But the
> talent they have is being wasted on making In Blue style music. I have
heard
> live performances of In Blue songs and I liked them - it is the
synthesizers
> and computer generated rubbish that is being editted in that I am opposed
> to. I want to hear THEM, not the sound techs.
>

To say the the least that the mixing is pretty bad too...

I just spent AUS$2000 on speakers and amps.. and the Corrs Albums is not
very well mixed (in comparison to other albums such as Garbage, Nelly
Furtado, Madonna), the Unplugged DVD sounds totally awesome though.


Anderson

Scott Harrison

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Oct 12, 2001, 6:20:26 AM10/12/01
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Maybe you just wasted $2000 on crap speakers and amp.

Hui King Ho

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Oct 12, 2001, 7:13:49 AM10/12/01
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rofl!


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wrakkee

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Oct 12, 2001, 11:16:22 AM10/12/01
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i really fell in love the Corrs and their music the very first time i
heard them. i mean, it was different and beautiful. and of course,
added attraction is that each member of the band (who are brother and
sisters) played an instrument or two (..or more).

It was totally unbelievable that their music has reached a very wide
market considering that what they were playing was not typical pop
music.
I was even the one who introduced the band to my friends. and now they
are fanatics themselves.

Yes they are changing style, and their music too. but i dont take it
against them and i continue to love them more and more...i really like
their original music (with Celtic influence/Irish music), but their
new (pop) music is very much welcome.

in the Philippines, i never realized how much Corrs followers there
were until i watched their live concert in Araneta. they rocked the
Coliseum! from beginning to end, we never stopped singing, dancing and
screaming.
wish there will be another chance....

as far as the Corrs producing another album with a new set of
songs...yup that will be nice. but right now, no matter how many
times i play the whole set of their songs on cd, vcd and mp3...fine
with me!

:)

Jonas Pineda

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Oct 12, 2001, 2:15:32 PM10/12/01
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Dido's album only skyrocketed to such heights mainly because her music was
sampled by Eminem and used as a theme for "Roswell"... It wasn't so much
because of her producer, rather, it was because it was riding on the hype of
Roswell and Eminem; that's how it got into the mainstream radio play. If it
weren't for those two elements, I'm not too sure that she would've gotten
that much rotation on the radio; don't get me wrong though, I'm not against
her. In fact, I love her album...


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> Our distinguished colleague, "scake" scribed:
>

> >I don't recall IB having a thumping bass beat in any of the songs,
although
> >I haven't listened to it recently.
>
>

> That's fine - we all perceive things differently. After hearing the
> classical, refined arrangement of Unplugged's "Radio," In Blue's
> percussion dominant, get-on-the-dance-floor version didn't appeal to my
> ears.


>
>
> >Dido took over for a while...
>
>

> Dido. Well, she achieved what the Corrs did not. She broke the American
> market (4 x platinum). Who produced her last album? The Corrs would
> be wise to hire talent of that magnitude. I believe I've had my fill
> of Mutt Lange.
>
> --
> Roy
> k...@rahul.net (USA)


Scott Harrison

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Oct 12, 2001, 8:56:37 PM10/12/01
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I'm sorry but the idea that you're not great until you break into the American
market is really starting to piss me off... The Corrs have sold out shows all
over Europe, Asia and Australia and have been on tour with 'In Blue' for over
12 months. If this was the case with my band, I would say "Screw the American
market. Who needs them".

Hui King Ho

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Oct 12, 2001, 9:47:51 PM10/12/01
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but i always thought the corrs wanted to "conquer the world"...

-hui

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Scott Harrison

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Oct 12, 2001, 10:14:58 PM10/12/01
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Ceaser wanted to conquer the world. Alexander the Great wanted to conquer the
world. Hitler wanted to conquer the world. This is only music. there are
millions of die hard Corrs fan all over the world. Even over in America there
are loyal fans.To me, the Corrs are the greatest 'band' at the moment. They
write amazing songs, increadible music. Put on brilliant concerts and are
extremely talented musicians, AND even though many people now put them into the
'pop' category (i hate putting music into categories) you have to admit they
ARE different from other .mainstream 'performers' simply because they do write
their own lyrics with the exception of a few collaborations, they write their
own music and play their own instruments. Therefore, as a musician and teacher
I have a respect for the Corrs that i can't say I have for any other of todays
'performers'. A lot of credit also needs to go to bassist Keith Duffy and
guitarist Anthony Drennan who i consider to be as much a part of the Corrs as
Jim, Sharon, Caroline and Andrea. I have posted enough on this topic and have
now finally said my piece. Lets start posting some positive stuff like concert
reviews for example.
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