first album to ever use samples?
Astrolabe
hello all
i have a question...what was the first full length album to ever
extensively use samples(in todays sense of sample usage)? Im thinking its
the David Byrne/Brian Eno cd My Life in the Bush of Ghosts(1980)....but im
not really sure. of course im sure this can be refuted... with Musique
Concrete in the early half of the century, and im sure people were doing
tape music experiments in the 60's.
another slightly diffrent question, i heard the statement "hip hop music
is the first post-modernist form of music" the claim was that hip hop's
extensive borrowing/appropriating others music via samples, stacking
samples, rapping over them and putting them into a new context. the same
could be said about techno/electronic music and its many various
offshoots. anyone want to comment
fred
Robert Mashlan
Astrolabe <roy...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>hello all
>i have a question...what was the first full length album to ever
>extensively use samples(in todays sense of sample usage)? Im thinking its
>the David Byrne/Brian Eno cd My Life in the Bush of Ghosts(1980)....but im
>not really sure. of course im sure this can be refuted... with Musique
>Concrete in the early half of the century, and im sure people were doing
>tape music experiments in the 60's.
It depends on what you are defining as sampling. There's Afrika
Bambaataa and Grandmaster Flash, who invented and used the idea of
sampling via turntables before 1980. There's Lee "Scratch" Perry
and the who dub thing.
>another slightly diffrent question, i heard the statement "hip hop music
>is the first post-modernist form of music" the claim was that hip hop's
>extensive borrowing/appropriating others music via samples, stacking
>samples, rapping over them and putting them into a new context.
That sounds about right.
>the same
>could be said about techno/electronic music and its many various
>offshoots. anyone want to comment
"Techno/electronic" music may be innovative in it's own right, but you
must realize that a lot was borrowed from hip hop.
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fredrick don royster
>
> "Techno/electronic" music may be innovative in it's own right, but you
> must realize that a lot was borrowed from hip hop.
>
to quote the movie jackie brown "my ass may be dumb, but im not a dumb
ass" of course i know that Techno is heavily dependant on hip hop..i think
more today than in techno early days of the mid 80's. i would classify
techno as a post modernist music form..what ever that word post moderneist
means anyway ;)
fred
Patrick Roessler
> >
> >hello all
> >i have a question...what was the first full length album to ever
> >extensively use samples(in todays sense of sample usage)? Im thinking its
> >the David Byrne/Brian Eno cd My Life in the Bush of Ghosts(1980)....but im
> It depends on what you are defining as sampling. There's Afrika
> Bambaataa and Grandmaster Flash, who invented and used the idea of
> sampling via turntables before 1980. There's Lee "Scratch" Perry
And there was yello who claim to be (one of) the first sample only band. and
there first album came out in the late 70愀, but i惴 sure they weren愒 the
first.
> >another slightly diffrent question, i heard the statement "hip hop music
> >is the first post-modernist form of music" the claim was that hip hop's
> >extensive borrowing/appropriating others music via samples, stacking
> >samples, rapping over them and putting them into a new context.
> >the same
> >could be said about techno/electronic music and its many various
> >offshoots. anyone want to comment
> "Techno/electronic" music may be innovative in it's own right, but you
> must realize that a lot was borrowed from hip hop.
I think both techno/electronic and hiphop started there development at about
the same time. first music videos on both types came out in the mid/end
70愀. I wouldn愒 say that techno borrowed a lot from hiphop, but they both
influenced one another. and techno as well as hiphop wouldn愒 be what it is
if there hadn愒 been the other ...
cu
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roessi
Dagberg
It really depends upon what you mean by "using samples." Do the samples have
to be "looped?" If not, then remember that the Beatles used various vocal
samples in songs like "I am the Walrus." Also, the rock "superstar" group
Electric Flag used some spoken word samples in their first album.
Raymond W
Lets not forget Pink Floyd... true pioneers of Electronic music
knob twisting, pot tweaking, button pushing, slider-mania
who used all kinds of pre-recorded and orginal "samples"
J
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dj fishead
Dagberg wrote:
>
> It really depends upon what you mean by "using samples." Do the
> samples have to be "looped?" If not, then remember that the Beatles
> used various vocal samples in songs like "I am the Walrus."
not to mention Revolution 9 (which does use looping)...
another nice album to dig up is An Electric Storm by White Noise... I
think it's from '69... and it's fabulous... bits of it sound like a
cross between Negativland and Legendary Pink Dots...
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strangelove777
the earliest incarnation of Pink Floyd was nothing but tapeloops
lots and lots of tape loops
i'm not even a Floyd fan by any stretch of the definition, but the early stuff
is DAMN cool
dunno any albums to recomend tho
anyone?
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