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Razor Ramon

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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I buy a lot of underground music on 12" that is not available on CD and am
considering purchasing a CD-R/RW in the near future in order to listen to
these tracks in my car. In addition to recording 12"'s and CD's, I also
want to use the CD-R to copy Sony
Playstation games also. I want to gather as much info on this before I
invest a lot of money in a CD-R that may not do what I want it to.

I wanted to know if anyone with experience could give me their input and
advice. (i.e.-suggestions on what CD-R/RW to buy, what requirements the
CD-R should have, any problems you have encountered with transferring
vinyl to CD, Sound quality, what kind of Soundcard is necessary, etc.)

I have tried looking on the web for info but have only found
advertisements or information that is too technical for me to decipher.

Please e-mail any suggestions, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Mr. Rogers


$p@m H8er

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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Ralph Encarnacion wrote:

> burner will turn the wave file into cd format for you. There is a guy on the
> news group that has a web page up that tells you all about this sort of stuff,
> I believe his name is Brian. Go to his site and all your questions will be
> answered there. He will probably reply to your post soon and then you will

Thanks for mentioning my site....I've changed a bit about it this week and
seperated the page that has all the links to Digital Audio Information, CD
Recording, Software, etc....It's still there with it's own header of PC
Recording.
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André Huisman

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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OK. CD recording.

As recorders go, allmost any of them will do. We use the Philips Omniwriter 3600
SCSI. It works very well for us. The main advantage of SCSI writers is that they
don't bother the CPU as much as the IDE's, though with the newer versions of IDE
drives this is getting much better (UDMA etc.). For most SCSI is the way though.

You can use your writer to extract CD's or you can use a separate CD-rom player.
These are generally much faster. Our A-Open 32x does DAE at 8x while the Philips
only does it at 4x.

If you copy heavily damaged CD's you will hear some clicks! Brand new CD's and
CD's in good conditions give no clicks and copy perfectly.

For copying CD's we use Windac32 to extract data digitally to harddisk and then
burn it with Adaptec Easy CD Pro/Gear audio. We allway copy everything to
harddisk first, so we don't get buffer underruns.

For analog to digital we use the Turtle Beach Fiji soundcart. This is a very
good cart (Bit expensive though). Remember to mute all unused inputs to get
higher S/N ratio.

Another way would be to get a cheap soundcart with SPDIF inputs and hook it up
to your MD player. You then use your MD player as a AD converter. Use a good
RIAA pre-amp too. If you have a high-Q mixer that won't be a prob. You could opt
to use a better stylus than the Ortofoon/Stanton/Shure because you only use the
deck for copying. (no cueing). Rember though that records adjust to the stylus
used an can sound horrible with another stylus. A way to play old records is to
play them wet. Just moisten them with destilled water. Don't put to much water
on the record or it will spill in your deck.

For declicking/scratch/pop removal you can use the plug-in from Gear Audio.
There seems to be a possibility to use Soundforge with a plug in to do the same
thing. Also Cool Edit Pro seems to be able to do this also. Remove no-sound
starts and stops with Soundforge or Cool Edit.

Be very thorough with everything you do. If you make little mistakes it
generally means you've got a toaster. This never happened to us yet. (about 100
discs burned).

Remember the laws of copying. You have to be the owner of the original. More
laws apply but my fingers get tired.

If you have any more questions you can mail me direct. Remember to remove the
X-ex to reply.

André Huisman
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Raf Vandeweyer

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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Hi Razor!!

I'm making compilation cd's of my best techno trax for quite some
time now. I've connected my mixer to my soundcard: SB AWE64,
but any soundcard that can sample 16bits-44.1khz will do. I use Steinberg's
program Wavelab to record, process, edit the songs
and... it's also a CDR-writing utility. Very handy indeed!!
The sound quality, in my case, is exactly the same as the original
vinyl.
My CDRW is a 6x/2x like most re-writables I think.
Can't help you with info about copying Playstation cd's...

Raf :-)

Razor Ramon heeft geschreven in bericht ...

Ralph Encarnacion

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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You should be able to copy music cd's with no problem, and you should be able
to copy vinyl to cd with no problem. Any cdr that you buy should be able to do
this. I would recommend a scsi cdr with a good plug and play scsi card. Use
whatever soundcard you have in your computer and see how it sounds. If it
sounds good then keep it, if not, buy a better one. I use a Turtle Beach
Tropez and it sounds fine. If you want to copy vinyl to cd you will need a
program that you can make a long wave file with. Try Cool Edit, you should be
able to find it on the net, I use Sound Forge.The software that comes with the
burner will turn the wave file into cd format for you. There is a guy on the
news group that has a web page up that tells you all about this sort of stuff,
I believe his name is Brian. Go to his site and all your questions will be
answered there. He will probably reply to your post soon and then you will
have the url. As far as copying those playstation games, good luck, If you
figure it out let me know how to do it. I have never tryed to copy PS games,
but I bet they have some kind of copy protection. Just make sure you try at
least 4 times, that way you will have a matching set of coasters. When I first
got my burner it was easy to copy computer games, but now most of them are
copy protected and all I make is coasters so I quit trying. Music is no
problem. Hope this helps.
Ralph DJ

In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980323141418.5955A-100000@tavarua>, Razor Ramon

bb

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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:-)

Another method, if you have the facilities : eg: Amp/Mixer is to record
onto a MINI DISC RECORDER (Sony is excellent)!!!!

It is re-writeable (Spelling??) ............... as many times as you want.

Hope this helps!
:-)

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980323141418.5955A-100000@tavarua>,
Razor Ramon <ama...@mail.odu.edu> wrote:
>
> these tracks in my car. In addition to recording 12"'s and CD's, I also
> want to use the CD-R to copy Sony Playstation

To the best of my knowledge Play Station Discs are copy protected using a
scheme that most CDR software can not circumvent.

Larry


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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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ldr...@yahoo.com wrote:
: In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980323141418.5955A-100000@tavarua>,

: Razor Ramon <ama...@mail.odu.edu> wrote:
: >
: > these tracks in my car. In addition to recording 12"'s and CD's, I also
: > want to use the CD-R to copy Sony Playstation

: To the best of my knowledge Play Station Discs are copy protected using a
: scheme that most CDR software can not circumvent.

I know people that've done it. Don't ask me how. You need a special
chip for your PSX tho. Of course, this has nothing to do with DJing...

- A.P.

Patrick Roessler

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Mar 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/27/98
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Razor Ramon (ama...@mail.odu.edu) wrote:
> I wanted to know if anyone with experience could give me their input and
> advice. (i.e.-suggestions on what CD-R/RW to buy, what requirements the
> CD-R should have, any problems you have encountered with transferring
> vinyl to CD, Sound quality, what kind of Soundcard is necessary, etc.)
Ok. Basically there should be no problem. you can record your 12" with every
soundcard (that does 44.1 khz/16 bit) and software like wavelab or similar.
But there are differences in the quality of soundcards. If you use a LoFi
one like my Sb16 you might have some loss of quality. If that doesn't matter
to you ok. If it does matter you should spend your money in some HiFi
soundcard like Turtle Beach or Terratec EWS 64. And burning your Wavefiles
on CD should really be no problem. Use win on cd or something. Remember to
burn the tracks as RAW data and not as WAV and you got your Audio CD

cu
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roessi

Patrick....@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de
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