The following is from the _Sydney Star Observer_ (a gay/lesbian
community publication) today:
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ECSTASY DOUBT
Anna Wood, the girl who died last year allegedly because of ecstasy
use, probably died from other causes, according to an unreleased
interim autopsy. Last week's issue of _CityHub_ reports that the
interim autopsy could find no direct link between Wood's death and
the ecstasy she had taken. The findings of a full autopsy are
understood to be with Wood's family, but have not been released. The
autopsy's findings, if publicised, raise substantial questions about
media reporting of Wood's death and that State Government's use of
her death to promote anti-drug initiatives.
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We should all try and keep things in perspective here. I've only just
stumbled on to this supposed 'saga' but will add a few things anyway.
I've never tried ecstacy, or any other designer drugs. I've tried
marijuana. What is the difference between ecstacy and, say, alcohol. Both
impair judgement and induce differing mental states, and both are probably
just as potentially dangerous. So why dont so many people jump on the
anti-alcohol bandwagon?
Seeya,
Sammy
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they found not only e in her blood but cannabis, tranks and
alcohol - I know someone who was there and they said her
friends gave her 4 valium because she was having a fit - then
left her to "sleep it off" instead of taking her to hospital.
In other works, not only did ecstasy not kill her, but if
ecstasy was legal she wouldn't be dead because they woudln't
have been to scared to tell someone...
Do you really feel you must post your damn opinion 3 times in a row?
I dunno about you Alan but the article does give one that impression!
Maybe they are pro-extacsy! I heard that it was the fact she took
extascy and not enough water or something is that true??
Viv
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Well Alan, no, we should just be like you - anal retentive and
paranoic with delusions of self importance.
> well like what's so wrong with a state of oblivion?????????????
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I think I saw a number plate like that on a car from Tasmania ;)
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Well, I certainly have retained you!
Guess that makes you an anus!
You never do learn do you! You lost badly on the Galaxy issue, 'cos you
didn't acknowledge all the facts. But that's history now.
BTW my alleged self importance doesn't extend to appointing myself the 'Net
policeman. A title you seem to have given yourself in a personal e-mail to
me and on other posts in this newsgroup.
My posting on this particular drug is rather old now IMHO.
I still feel that giving $800,000 to select druggies is a waste. Better
to spend the money on education etc. Someone in an earlier posting suggested
giving each druggie a 3 week holiday (with food and water) on a deserted
island - instant cold turkey. Sounds good to me and much cheaper too. At
least that way the community and the person who *wishes* to kick the habit has
a chance. But we do live in a real world don't we Matthew. Drugs are illegal
and we really can't put people on deserted islands, we certainly shouldn't
give them money for their habit. I would much rather see the older folk
getting the money for free medication and or hospitalisation.
By for now, now you have a good day Matthew...hear.
Hmm, rather a controversial comment that one. So you are suggesting that we devote money to
the aged for care and rehabilitation, in preference to rehabilitating young people that
have made one or two wrong decisions in life, and probably still have plenty of potential
life left.
>>>Lets all get high and live in a state of oblivion!!!! Is this what you
>>>advocate?
>>
>>Well Alan, no, we should just be like you - anal retentive and
>>paranoic with delusions of self importance.
>
>
>well like what's so wrong with a state of oblivion?????????????
Well, I prefer the state of NSW, but oblivion runs a close second...
All people get old and that includes you Matthew.
Drug addiction however can be avioded, at least in the early stages of
experimentation.
So yes I would much rather see money spent on the very needy - rather
than self inflicted ailments.
And yes Matthew it is a *very* tough, real world out there.
I believe I have said all I am going to say on the subject.
Cheers
Alan
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enough is enough
I guess your entitled to live in what state you prefer :-)
As for myself, well I'll leave you guessing about that one because it
changes with ones views as one gets older.<g>
Cheers
Alan
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enough is enough
[...]
> Drug addiction however can be avioded, at least in the early stages of
> experimentation.
And so could most heart disease and cancer.
>
> So yes I would much rather see money spent on the very needy - rather
> than self inflicted ailments.
So how do you go about determining if people are needy because
of self inflicted "ailments" or not?
[...]
Regards,
Wayne.
Ah yes - Jeff Kennett would make me volunteer to live in a permanent state of
oblivion too.
But at least it's not Queensland...
Well, after talking to a friend of the family last weekend, it turns out
that the actual cause of death was that she choked on her own vomit.
THe drugs in her system included alcohol, speed, cocaine, ecstacy and
valium. The valium was given to here when she started to have fits.
Its no wonder we have a stiff on our hands, huh?
Dave.
: Well, after talking to a friend of the family last weekend, it turns out
: that the actual cause of death was that she choked on her own vomit.
: THe drugs in her system included alcohol, speed, cocaine, ecstacy and
: valium. The valium was given to here when she started to have fits.
If this is true, I wonder why we haven't heard anything of the coroner's
officical report in the media?
I just loved that 60 Minutes story on Sunday that started with "The
extasy that killed Anna Wood..." (or some equally unsubstansiated
sentence of that form).
Cheers,
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>If this is true, I wonder why we haven't heard anything of the coroner's
>officical report in the media?
not a mention of the report on "60 minutes" - strange huh?
>I just loved that 60 Minutes story on Sunday that started with "The
>extasy that killed Anna Wood..." (or some equally unsubstansiated
>sentence of that form).
Yes, "60 Minutes" is really an indicator of a wider sickness that
parades itself as "morality" in the Media. You just can't trust these
"magazine" style current affairs to deliver a truthful analysis of
social problems.
"60 Minutes" is perhaps the entertaiment that is meant to keep us
watching in between the paying advertisersments.
Nick down the video store and pick up some Frontline tapes. The portrayal of current
affairs programs is both funny and scary.