95 is over, what was the best album(s) of the year?
Kevin Jagernauth
Sonic Youth - Washing Machine: A sonic tidal wave of noise and melodies
topped off by the hurricane power of "The Diamond Sea", a sprawling 20 min.
epic into the heart of madness.
Shotmaker/Maximillian Colby 12": Nothing more to say.
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness: Ok, so Billy
Corgan can be an egotistical asshole at times, but this album still rocks
despite it's ambition.
Bjork - Post: Proving that dance and techno grooves do have a place in the
music industry.
Blind Melon - Soup: So it was slammed by every "critic" on the face of the
earth. This bluesy, often depressing album rocks.
Thurston Moore - Psychic Hearts: The much unheard solo effort by Thurston
Moore rocks, complete with a 20 min. "Elegy To All The Dead Rock Stars".
Presidents Of The United States Of America: Five strings, cheesy pop
melodies....damn it, it's just fun to listen to.
Russ Klein
Citizen Fish - Millennia Madness: An incredible album from an incredible band.
In article <DKxKD...@freenet.carleton.ca>,
GodClod
GodClod
Brian Ruh
The Whitworths <wwo...@intex.net> wrote:
>
>Alanis M. - Jagged Little Pill
>
>
This is yet another thing I just love about the net. One can find
great satire in the most unexpected places.
Just kidding! (What kind of asshole am I to criticize the musical
tastes of others?)
Peace & Punk,
Brian
Daigoro
Why have I not heard much about these guys in the US?
2 Gene "Olympian"
A little bit like the Smiths, but unique enough to be a great
album.
3 Radiohead "The Bends"
The best live band I've seen this year! Has the singer always
been like this??
4 No Doubt "Tragic Kingdom"
Anything by them would have made my best of list, but they put
out a great album that should get much more respect than it
does.
5 Oasis "Whats the Story ( Morning Glory )"
It's nice to see bands come back with a great second album. I
could swear that was John Lennon singing on a few of the
songs....
Charles
Persinthia Lawdro
>Shit, what a load of total wasted burned out rock'n'roll vomit.
>My album of the year is Sassi du Graisse by Nouvelle Generation de
>la Republique Democratique (now sadly split) so check it out if
>you wanna hear some real guitar playing not just regurgitated
>noise.
>
>Oh, and btw if you find this offensive then try not to spam innapropriate
>newsgroups, OK :-).
You mean like you just did....DUH!!!!!!!
Tim Llewellyn
In article <4cv2gr$8eo...@cs.fredonia.edu>, klei...@a12t.cc.fredonia.edu
(Russ Klein) writes:
|>
|>
|>Citizen Fish - Millennia Madness: An incredible album from an incredible band.
|>|>
|>
|>In article <DKxKD...@freenet.carleton.ca>,
|> bz...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Kevin Jagernauth) wrote:
|>>Okay here is list of best of for '95 in no particular or:
|>>
|>>Sonic Youth - Washing Machine: A sonic tidal wave of noise and melodies
|>>topped off by the hurricane power of "The Diamond Sea", a sprawling 20 min.
|>>epic into the heart of madness.
|>>
Vomit.
|>>Shotmaker/Maximillian Colby 12": Nothing more to say.
|>>
|>>Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness: Ok, so Billy
|>>Corgan can be an egotistical asshole at times, but this album still rocks
|>>despite it's ambition.
Rock is outa date, havn't you heard or do you live in the USA poor sod.
|>>
|>>Bjork - Post: Proving that dance and techno grooves do have a place in the
|>>music industry.
She can't sing in tune.
|>>
|>>Blind Melon - Soup: So it was slammed by every "critic" on the face of the
|>>earth. This bluesy, often depressing album rocks.
|>>
|>>Thurston Moore - Psychic Hearts: The much unheard solo effort by Thurston
|>>Moore rocks, complete with a 20 min. "Elegy To All The Dead Rock Stars".
|>>
Oh dear.
|>>Presidents Of The United States Of America: Five strings, cheesy pop
|>>melodies....damn it, it's just fun to listen to.
|>>
Not as much fun as soukous I bet.
|>>
|>>
|>
Shit, what a load of total wasted burned out rock'n'roll vomit.
My album of the year is Sassi du Graisse by Nouvelle Generation de
la Republique Democratique (now sadly split) so check it out if
you wanna hear some real guitar playing not just regurgitated
noise.
Oh, and btw if you find this offensive then try not to spam innapropriate
newsgroups, OK :-).
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Mike Cohen
>Okay here is list of best of for '95 in no particular or:
>
[list deleted]
Here's my choice for the best of '95:
1. King Sunny Ade - E Dide/Get Up. one of the best I've heard in years.
It's good to have him back with a new album.
2. Salif Keita - Folon/The Past. He's still one of the greatest singers in
the world. His new version of "Mandjou" makes this album worthwhile.
3. Enya - The Memory Of Trees. Any album from her is a major event. It
isn't quite as good as "Watermark" or even "Shepherd Moons", but it's still
better than 90% of what anyone else does.
4. Baaba Maal - Sunugal. Only available as an import cassette, but worth
looking for. Nice acoustic music - a good change from his CD releases.
"Cherie" from this album was a big hit for him at Africa Fete (at least in
the LA show).
5. Mansour Seck - N'der Fouta Tooro vol 1 & 2. Great acoustic guitar work.
I like vol 1 a little better, mostly because Baaba Maal sings on one song.
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Persinthia Lawdro
>3. Enya - The Memory Of Trees. Any album from her is a major event. It
>isn't quite as good as "Watermark" or even "Shepherd Moons", but it's still
>better than 90% of what anyone else does.
While I'll have to agree with you that any album from Enya is an event
(Yes...I was there first day to get my copy), I actually like this album alot
more than Shepherd Moons. It reminded me more of Watermark, which still
remains my favorite Enya Release.
I'm not too familiar with much world music, but have been gaining alot of
interest in the music of Bali lately. Any reccommendations??? I also love
Cesario Evora's music. Her last album was wonderful and I had the opportunity
to see her live earlier this year. One of the best shows of the year.
culler
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You really shouldn't post these to all the groups you did. You will
prolly get a few flames from each of the NGs.
-Jason Culler
J. Grotelueschen
1. morphine-yes (another great album from an amazing band)
2. radiohead-the bends (they've come a long way since creep)
3. sugar-besides (ok, ok, mostly unreleased tracks and b-sides, but
still incredible tunes)
4. the urge-receiving the gift of flavor (ska-core type
band out of st. louis...fantastic)
5. presidents of the u.s.a. (i know, i know, but please don't knock
'em until you've given this whole disc a chance...it really is
quite good)
hm- pj harvey, natalie merchant, foo fighters, hmmm...that's all i can
think of.
Albums i really really tried to like but just couldn't -
1. pavement-wowee zowee (i love this band and everything they've ever
done, but i just think this album is really sub-par compared to their
other material...several of my pavement-loving pals say it's their
best album yet, but i guess i just can't get into it)
2. oasis-morning glory (i just cannot get into this band. i like a few
of their songs, but overall i just don't think they're all that
they've been made out to be...)
- grote
wildcard
(What's the Story)Morning Glory - Oasis
Don't ask me why, I just loooovvvveeee them. :-)
Parkster
writes:
>
>Alanis M. - Jagged Little Pill
>
Park
"Is a cat's urinary tract important?"
Scott Spanbauer
>1. King Sunny Ade - E Dide/Get Up. one of the best I've heard in years.
>It's good to have him back with a new album.
King Sunny passed away this year, apparently from tetanus.
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2. Water In My Head (or something like that, ya know what I'm sayin cuz)
-- $1.09
3. (That shit from VooDoo) -- VooDoo Glow Skulls
Shane -- Alto Sax player for "Plus Tax", we kick ass!
NxO DxOxUxBxT KiCKs AsS!
Ton Maas
"Another Thought" by Arthur Russell on Point Music Records.
Amazing vocals with cello & drum machine accompaniment; classical, Indian
and dance influences. The closest thing to Nick Drake ever!
Ton Maas (Esquire Netherlands)
Mike
Fred Trinh
"Mantra" and a couple of Swedish tral-punk bands, Millencolin-"Tiny
tunes" and No Fun at All-"No Straight Angles".
Stuart Van Bibber.
Mark Borcherding
Crash Worship Triple Mania II
Numb Wasted Sky
The Chemical Brothers Exit Planet Dust
haujobb Freeze Frame REality
Download Furnace
Synaesthesia Desideratum
FrontLine Assembly Hard Wired
Leatherstrip Double or Nothing
Juno Reactor Beyond the Infinite
higher intelligence agency freefloater
In no particular order ...
-markB
Katherine Rydell
Ruh) writes:
>
>In article <4d0tov$6...@animal.intex.net>,
>great satire in the most unexpected places.
>
>Just kidding! (What kind of asshole am I to criticize the musical
>tastes of others?)
>
>Peace & Punk,
>Brian
>
>
Rev. Ammonia D.
>
>>2. oasis-morning glory (i just cannot get into this band. i like a few
>>of their songs, but overall i just don't think they're all that
>>they've been made out to be...)
>
>
>
I can't deal with them at all. I read an interview with them in Musican and
it pissed me off so bad that i sent a nasty letter(they published it).
I am sick to death of over hyped(read Next Beatles) English acts shoving
there working class chip on their shoulders mentality down our throuts.
Read the interview....get the rage.....
The Rev.
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Gregory T Misicko
My picks would be:
Project Pitchfork - Alpha Omega
Noise Unit - Decoder
Sabres of Paradise - Sabresonic II
Mr Bungle - Disco Volante
Brighter Death Now - Necrose Evangelicum
Non-Stop Violence (single) - Apoptygma Berzerk
mondo
one apart, too...
(in no particular order)
1. the chemical brothers "exit planet dust"
how can you not like them? everybody (even oasis) wants remixes from
them
2. hallucinogen "twisted"
goa gets you closer to god...
3. garbage "garbage"
the drummer is the least of it...
4. broun fellinis "aphrokubist improvisations #9"
nice SF hip hop acid jazz
5. sister machine gun "burn"
funky stuff
6. skunk anansie "paranoid and sunburnt"
this one really rocks
7. dancehall crashers "lockjaw"
fun songs let you forget that they all sound the same...no doubt about
it
8. alanis morisette "jagged little pill"
shut up. don't say it...
9. shades apart "save it"
anthemic
10. fugazi "red medicine"
hey, it's fugazi
Katherine Rydell
The Whitworths
>In <4d41je$c...@ns1.moran.com> XLiquidX wrote:
>> In article <4d0tov$6...@animal.intex.net>, wwo...@intex.net says...
>>
>> >Alanis M. - Jagged Little Pill
>>
>>
> BLAAAH
>
I don't care what anyone thinks. I love that album.
Courtney
Giovanni John Militano
I think the album was released in late (Nov or Dec 94) but is still
releasing singles here in Winnipeg. How about in other parts, how are
they doing?
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>Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Orange
311 - 311
G Love and Special Sauce - Coast To Coast Motel
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10. Madonna- Something to Remember- just one song-"Oh Father"
9. Oasis- What's the Story Morning Glory- not the best, but Youre my
Wonderwall.......
8. Deep Blue Something- Home- Breakfast at Tiffany's
7. Hootie and the Blowfish- self titled- "Time" (NO FLAMES)
6. Traci Lords- 1,000 Fires- sucky vocals but good beats.....
5. The Rentals-The Return of...- I am in total love with this band
4. Alanis Morissette- Jagged Little Pill- Its ironic isnt it? (SEE
HOOTIE)
3. Live- Throwing Copper- all around great- Even if it was released
last year.......
2. Mortal Kombat-the Soundtrack- Great mix- Utah Saints take on the
theme song from Mortal Kombat and Traci Lord's Control....what more
could you want..? Uh, a soundtrack to Hackers???-YES!
1. Elastica- Even though its a short cd, its wonderfully mastered,
written and performed, it was entirely worth the 15 bucks.....
Kidnybn
1) Moby -Everything Is Wrong
2) Bjork - Post
3) The Voodoo Glow Skulls - Firme
4) Moby - Everytime you touch me (CD remix single)
5) The Shamen - Axis Mutatis
6) NOFX - I Heard They Suck Live
7) Prodigy - Voodoo People CD remix single
8) Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation
Christopher Rose
Matthew Sweet 100% Fun
J. Grotelueschen
2. radiohead - the bends
3. sugar - besides
4. presidents of the u.s.a.
5. sonic youth - washing machine
6. bjork - post
7. the urge - receiving the gift of flavor (trust me folks...think mm
bosstones with soul)
8. wally pleasant - houses of the holy moly (again, trust me...
hilarious acoustic folk-rock)
...that's all i can think of...
what i heard of garbage i liked as well...the new tripping daisy is
surprisingly good...oh well...
later...
-grote
HYROLL
Its a fairly slow, but its a really fine song.
Andrew Hime
: Hey der!
: 1) Moby -Everything Is Wrong
Hmm.
: 2) Bjork - Post
: 3) The Voodoo Glow Skulls - Firme
: 4) Moby - Everytime you touch me (CD remix single)
albums, sorry.
: 5) The Shamen - Axis Mutatis
: 6) NOFX - I Heard They Suck Live
: 7) Prodigy - Voodoo People CD remix single
: 8) Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation
This came out in 1994. Still, nice to see people with a wide range of
tastes... there was one other person whose taste really impressed me
recently, wish I could remember who.
Purity Control
1) goldie "timeless"
2) download "furnace"
3) smashing pumpkins "mellon collie.."
4) bjork "post"
5) walter krug "soda pop sunshine"
6) v/a "trance atlantic two"
7) prototype 909 "live 93-95"
8) omni trio "music for the next millenium"
9) aphex twin "i care because you do"
10) the orb "orbvs terrarvm"
sure, it's mostly commercial junk, but it's commercial junk done good. =)
have a blast,
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Blair F. Pemberton
Grotelueschen) wrote:
> 1. morphine - yes
There are a couple tracks I really like, get on your gocart, and another I
can't think of, but I liked their first two albums alot better than Yes.
Did you hear? Yes is coming out with an album entitled "Morphine".
Brian Whatshisname
Mojo
DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan (UNDERWORLD)
Last Train to Lhasa (BANCO DE GAIA)
Beyond the Infinite (JUNO REACTOR)
Leftism (LEFTFIELD)
These have got to be the best TECHNO records to date!
/\/\
auberon
(in no particular order)
chemical brothers-exit planet dust
oasis-what's the story(morning glory)
spiritualized-pure phase(95?)
mercury rev-see you on the other side
orbital-are we here? ep
bowery electric
verve-a northern soul
spicelab-a day on our planet
sven vath-the robot,the harlequin, and the ballet dancer
stone roses-"how do you sleep?"
John Sheehy
>Aaron Kipness wrote:
>>
>> Mojo (Mo...@val.net) wrote:
>> : Mojo's best of 95:
>> ...and we all know how TOUGH it is to write TECHNO music, right gang?
>
>To write techno to the calibre of these albums is indeed tough.
>I suggest you check out any or all of them before criticising
>rather than judging them by what you might hear on TOTP.
But how can one honestly "check out" something if they've already made a
decision about a general style beforehand? The "unfamiliar" always suffers
from a generic blanket that hides individuality. How many times have we
gone to restaurants operated by people of a different race, and had trouble
telling the staff apart, while the other customers of the same race as us
all had an obvious individuality?
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Dale Walker
writes:
>
>Mojo (Mo...@val.net) wrote:
>: Mojo's best of 95:
>
>: DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan (UNDERWORLD)
>: Last Train to Lhasa (BANCO DE GAIA)
>: Beyond the Infinite (JUNO REACTOR)
>: Leftism (LEFTFIELD)
>
>: These have got to be the best TECHNO records to date!
>
>...and we all know how TOUGH it is to write TECHNO music, right gang?
I suppose you've heard the above then? I bet you haven't! I bet you think techno
is 2 unlimited, ace of base and Doop.
It must seem strange to you that Leftfield appears at least 3 times so far and
that around 50% of the posts contain techno albums.
Find someone with any one of the above, have a good listen and see if you could
do any better. These aren't my prefered albums but they are up there in the top
25.
I've never slagged anyone off on the net before so I'll email you it if I can be
bothered.
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ben dolphin
Doug Clinton
>
> Mojo (Mo...@val.net) wrote:
> : Mojo's best of 95:
>
> : DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan (UNDERWORLD)
> : Last Train to Lhasa (BANCO DE GAIA)
> : Beyond the Infinite (JUNO REACTOR)
> : Leftism (LEFTFIELD)
>
> : These have got to be the best TECHNO records to date!
>
> ...and we all know how TOUGH it is to write TECHNO music, right gang?
To write techno to the calibre of these albums is indeed tough.
I suggest you check out any or all of them before criticising
rather than judging them by what you might hear on TOTP.
plur,
Doug
Andrew Hime
: : It must seem strange to you that Leftfield appears at least 3 times so far and
: : that around 50% of the posts contain techno albums.
: See we have this thing called CROSSPOSTING, and this message is only
: reaching a few groups.
A few?
: : Find someone with any one of the above, have a good listen and see if you could
: : do any better. These aren't my prefered albums but they are up there in the top
: : 25.
: Maybe so, but any "Techno" album can be put together in less than a day
: using sequencers and digital algorythyms. Push a button and out comes a
: song. Quite simply, techno music requires very little, if any, talent to
: produce.
You have no idea what you're talking about. For starters, it takes more
than a day. Maybe Culture Beat doesn't, but I can guarantee everything I
have took more than day. And what button is it you push? I could use
some extra money. Not to mention a lot of it is analog. You're a tool.
If what you assert is true, you have one year to make a techno album and
make it into my top 10 for 96. I doubt it highly. You won't do better
than the Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Goldie, mu-ziq, or Freaky Chakra.
In summation, I think I hear the clue phone ringing, let me answer it.
Oh, it's for you.
Neuromancer
>Techno is not 'by definition' dance music. Check out David Holme's
>"This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" for an excellent example
>of some intense, moody and brilliantly composed "listening" techno.
If Mr. Holme's work is "brilliantly composed for listening", then it
is NOT (according to the definition already stated) Techno. It must be
some other beast.
>You're judging an entire genre of music by some commercial crap you
>heard on the TV or in a cheesy nighclub.
How do you know?
>That's right. But, just as not all rock music is as Dale described,
>neither is all techno music as you describe.
>Keep an open mind, and open ears. Just because you don't like it
>doesn't mean it's "bad".
I don't believe I said that was the case. There are MANY things that I
don't like, none of which are "bad". Techno music is not "bad", it is
not "good" (I'm not sure if anything shares these moral
characteristics, in fact). I, however, detest it.
Christopher B. Fox
Senior in Philosophy and Psychology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Neuromancer
>Techno is all about composition, noises, rhythm, beat, and subtle changes.
>It's also about throwing away the 'musicians rule book'.The talent lies in being
>able to combine these things. OK, manual dexterity is not one of the things most
>techno musicians have to worry about but I bet the average techno musician knows
>his instruments more than the average rock or indie one. A lot more thought goes
>into one of their tracks than some wanky rock or indie song.
Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
>I suppose turning your guitar up to max, sticking it through god knows what
>effects boxes and playing some old 70's guitar riff whilst wailing down a
>microphone is talent! It may be fun but talent it ain't.
Here, however, I must agree. Techno is the same way, however. Taking
the same sequenced rhythm, layering it with the same wailing divas and
"Whoo! Hey!" samples and jamming it through 10000 Watt speaker stacks
for people to move to ain't talent, either.
Andrew Hime
: Mojo's best of 95:
: DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan (UNDERWORLD)
Came out in either 93 or 94. I will agree that ot's one of the bet albums
of the nineties though.
Doug Clinton
> Maybe so, but any "Techno" album can be put together in less than a day
> using sequencers and digital algorythyms. Push a button and out comes a
> song. Quite simply, techno music requires very little, if any, talent to
> produce.
I'm sorry but you are, quite simply, wrong. This may indeed be
true of *some* techno music, but if you had ever heard albums by
the likes of Leftfield, Underworld, Banco de Gaia, Orbital,
David Holmes, etc. you would probably change your mind. You may
not like the music if you heard it, but you would have to be very
closed-minded indeed not to acknowledge the work that went into
it.
Likewise, many rock albums can be thrown together in a couple of
days by people who have no idea how toplay their instruments but
that doesn't mean that all rock is amateurish rubbish.
plur,
Doug
Remi Butaud
I think the best album of the year was
'Apocalypse Live' from A. Ammer, FM Einheit, U. Haage.
Remi.
Darryl Stephen Roy
offerings, starting off with a top 10:
1) Elysium - Glisten. Overcoming the cliches advertised by the band's
name and album title, Elysium is an outstanding etherial pop outfit.
Jenny Adam's possesses a silken alto akin to Lynn Canfield of Moon Seven
Times, and haunting, melancholy melodies which recall the first half of
"Heaven or Las Vegas." Chiming, flamenco influenced guitar interplay
gloved in chorus and reverb, and inventive and atmospheric drums
(programming, but you won't notice) loft the album accross arid
soundscapes. Crystaline production. Half is mixed by Kramer, who's
evidently outgrown the 60's fetishism I had associated with him. Brought
to us by 4AD-L's own Brant Nelson of Dewdrops records (I can give you the
address if asked), we should all hold our breaths and pout till they're
signed by 4AD and can get better distribution.
2) Cocteau Twins - Otherness EP. The Twins leave two tracks pilfered from
the 4AD offices and two from the upcoming album to the machinations of
Marc Clifford of Seefeel, and out pops the best work either has proffered
in years. Clifford's drift toward solitary soundscaping is tempered by
Liz's superior melodic sense. Her sampled vocal phrases are suspended
over stuttering dub basslines, in formation with sheets of guitar texture.
Clifford could learn something from the Cocteau Twin's song structure, for
like his own work, the tracks on Otherness are all tension, no resolution.
3) O Yuki Conjugate - Equator. An ambient safari, skimming over an
imagined desert, wind whistling over ragged cliffs, eavedropping on
village festivals, but always moving on, pushing into terra incognito.
This is a return of sorts to the terrains of 1986's "Into Dark Water",
which impelled me to drag out the atlas and follow the dry riverbeds of
Sudan. OYC, following Jon Hassell, were among the first to explore this
genre, and are the most successful exponents today (and I collect this
stuff.) Highly recommended to fans of "Passion."
4) Future Sound of London - ISDN. Culled from live radio concerts, these
tracks ground the sonic ephemera of "Lifeform" to rhythmic structures, a
concession to popular attention spans, but the result is far more
listenable. Dozens of samples swirl about over slow breakbeats. A jam
session of Cherry, Galas, Fripp, god only knows what else with woody
accoustic bass, seagulls, chattering utinsils, and Burundi drummers all
keeping pace. It must ruin music listening for them, ever focusing on the
prize sample. Pity.
5) Medicine - Her Highness. Medicine's swan song garnered a negative
reception here from those who missed the piercing distortion which
smothered "Shot Forth Self Living" or the gratuitous production
noxiousness of "Buried Life", but it's my favorite. Some but by no means
all of of the sonic curtains are peeled back to reveal a casually offhand
pop melodicism. I'm glad I had a chance to see Beth et. al. on their
final tour this year.
6) Mad Professor vs. Massive Attack - No Protection. Mad Professor
represents (with Adrian Sherwood) the apex of British analog dub, but has
tended to retreat into the uptempo synthetics of dancehall sound (ick).
Massive Attack are hugely popular outside the States (the #1 artists in
Bosnia, incidently), producing heavily dub and hip-hop polyglot dance-pop
from humble origins in Bristol. "No Protection" collects various remixes
of their most recent album, and is my favorite Mad Professor since 1985's
"Who Knows the Secret of the Master Tape." The disparate influences of
Massive swirl about under the Prof's able knob twirling, extricating him
from from the ghetto of reggae, but leaving all the soul. Colourbox fans
will love it. Spliff-candy.
7) Slowdive - Pygmalion A bit of false advertising, as this is by all
indications a Neil Halstead solo project. This was a real letdown after
the goose-bump inducing anthemic dreampop of the desert-island worthy
"Souvlaki". Still, I keep returning to its spartan guitar strums and
echos, the slow Cranes-like guitar archipeggios, the occasional reverb
washed voice of Rachel. As much as I hate to watch this autopsy of one of
my favorite bands, it admittedly works, in its impressionistic way.
8) Synaesthesia - Embody. As usual with Front Line Assembly's prolific
side projects, anaur of cynical calculation pereates this disc of
ethnotrance. Despite the synth presets and rapacious sampling of FSOL
etal, darkness and attention to song progression results in superior
product.
9) Flying Saucer Attack - Further. Having been underimpressed with this
at first (tuneless singig, 4 track production, little variety in guitar
distortion), I've come helplessly to love this little gem of dreampop
psychedelia, which should appease fans of loveliescrushing and Pygmalion.
Even less poppy more coherent than other FSA.
10) Siddal - The Pedestal. I'm spineless against moody echoed guitar ala
"Unforgetable Fire", Chameleons, and Moon Seven Times. Elaine Winter is
earthier than Lynn Canfield, and has a fretting, worried, melodic sense,
even when the guitar blisses out. I worry with her. The emotional
trembling can be a bit much over the whole album, as can occasional synth
Autechre and Mojave 3 would doubtless have made this list, but I haven't
had a chance to hear them. Incidently, I've read that the domestic issue
of Tri Repetiae will include Anvil Vapre.
PS: This was all written about a month ago. I just got the Mojave 3 and
its an extraordinary album if you are at all into Mazzy Star or Cowboy
Junkies.
Everything else I bought and liked enough to keep from 1995:
Laurie Anderson - The Ugly One with the Jewels. A spoken-word document of
her 1994 tour, it doesn't provoke further thought in the way United States
Live did.
Aphex Twin - Classics. This comp is my first exposure to Richard James's
early releases. Rough and repetitious but it still transports.
Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do. Wherein RDJ jumps the trip-hop/jungle
bandwagon and still sounds distinctive.
Banco de Gaia - Last Train to Lhasa. A technically impressive but
emotionally vacuous synthetic trance travelogue, of interest to Tangerine
Dream fans.
Paul Bowles - Baptism of Solitude. "The Sheltering Sky's" author sedately
reads obvious selections over Bill Laswell drones. Humorless, arhythmic,
but apt.
Coil - Unnatural History II. This comp is a sop to fans awaiting a proper
album. The Hellraiser themes, included in their entirety, are great
Halloween mood music, but overall, collection is disjointed and
disorienting. A must.
Vanessa Daou - Zipless. Wispy chanteuse adapts the erotic poetry of Erica
Jong to a warm lounge hip-hoppy backing.
Divination - Akasha. First disc is drone ambient by Tetsu Inoue, second
is raucous drum n' bass reworkings of Jajouka.
Faith and Disease - Fortune His Sleep. Cure completists also taken with
Miranda Sex Garden, the Lol Tolhurst one finger keyboard ultimately
grates. Impress a goth, buy mine.
Flying Saucer Attack - Chorus. Another lulling comp of lo-fi aural
scetches from shoegaze inheritors. "Distance 2"
Freaky Chakra - Lowdown Motivator. Inventive Cisco psychedelic trance.
Toni Halliday guests. Verra nice.
Future Sound of London - Far Out Son of Lung. Originally a limited
Japanese peek at the goings at Earthbeat studios. Pointless if you have
American ISDN.
Lisa Gerrard - The Mirror Pool. Epic as Wagner, but she abandons my
favorite aspects of her DCD pieces: mid-eastern percussion and vocal
melisma. Gruftis will be pleased.
Intermix - Future Primitives. Front Line Assembly's alter-ego assembles
ethnotrance outtakes from Delerium's great "Semantic Spaces" for
consumption by Deep Forest fans.
Mick Karn - Tooth Mother. Karn's fretless ostinatos on "Dali's Car"
inspired me to pick up the instrument, and here are more, with heavy
Arabic and progressive overtones.
Kronos Quartet - Plays Phillip Glass. Typically quartets delve the
heart/symphonies ply the mind, and Kronos draws out the emotion from a
minimalist of icy repute. I prefer their 1986 "Company", but the
"Mishima" is supurb.
Mellonta Tauta - Sun Fell I bought this debut on the strength of "Pull the
Chariot" from the "Heavenly Voices I". It's revamped here "Garlands"
style, alongside a disparate mix sounding like a late J&MC album with
whispered female vocals in Spanish. A good find.
Mistle Thrush - Agus Amarach. Imagine if 10,000 Maniacs continued as a
Joy Division cover band AFTER Natalie Merchant joined.
Terry Riley - In C: 25th Anniversary Concert. A crowded, sax dominated
reading of a seminal Minimalist work. I prefer the clean lines of the
Piano Circus take.
Maleem M. Ghania w/ Pharoah Sanders - Trance of Many Colors. Axiom's
Gnawa field recordings are superb, but Pharoah is more intrusive than
Ornette or Cherry in similar works.
Scorn - Ellipsis. Farms out tracks from Evanescence for makeovers by Meat
Beat, Autechre, et al, with the dubby Coil and Laswell remixes well worth
the trip for fans of either.
Scorn - Gyral. Mick Harris kicks out bassist/vocalist Nick Bullen, and
the result is desolate, static trip-hop not unlike recent Seefeel.
Seefeel - Succour. Clifford absconds with a sampler to his bedroom, and
the result is desolate, static abstract dance music not unlike recent
Scorn.
Steve Roach - Artifacts. Desert synth and didgeridooist Roach follows
1993's essential tribal-ambient "Origins" in a lighter vein, and this one
pales only in comparison.
Various - Heavenly Voices III. Another Hyperium collection of siren song.
Weighted toward Lush soundalikes, this one hasn't left me hungry for more.
Various - Theory of Evolution. Mostly tracks by techno artist Global
Comm's alter-egos, who are better served by the long forms of "76:14" and
the Chapterhouse remix album.
DeeDee Mao
>Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
>the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
>"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
>dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
>Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
>musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
>rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
Agreed. I tried to produce one techno track by throwing out the rule-book. The
techno freaks hated it. They wanted something without any tempo changes.
There ain't room for drastic innovation like I do with my guitar work.
Zenon M. Feszczak
ne...@vt.edu (Neuromancer) writes:
> Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
> the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
> "dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
> dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
> Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
> musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
> rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
If you judge any music form by its lowest common denominator, you
won't find much profound artistry. Top 40 radio hardly gives
any indication of what popular music is capable (such as King
Crimson, Dead Can Dance, David Sylvian, Ryiuchi Sakamoto,
almost any 4AD artist, etc.).
In the same way, what one hears on the typical club dance floor
is primarily "disposable music" - listen, dance, throw it away,
- _next! Nothing particularly deep or memorable.
Techno written for the dancefloor is predominantly rave techno,
though one also hears variants like deep or tribal. But these
don't encompass the range of techno. There is also techno
designed not for dancing, but for serious listening. Kraftwerk
can be considered early techno, as can Tangerine Dream.
There is ambient dub, ambient techno, just ambient, there is
trance, and so on . . .
As usual, the true "pulse" of any cultural form is usually below
the surface, and might require a bit of searching to discover.
But it's often worth the effort.
Zenon M. Feszczak
Ambient Dubbist Monk
David Lean
>> : Beyond the Infinite (JUNO REACTOR)
>> : Leftism (LEFTFIELD)
>>
>> : These have got to be the best TECHNO records to date!
>>
>> ...and we all know how TOUGH it is to write TECHNO music, right gang?
>
> To write techno to the calibre of these albums is indeed tough.
> I suggest you check out any or all of them before criticising
> rather than judging them by what you might hear on TOTP.
(nb. cross-posting removed)
dubnobasswithmyheadman is a little older than 95, which doesn't
change the way it sounds on my CD player, but it's probably better
to nominate it for best of 93.
My favourite trance album of 1995 was A Day on Our Planet by
Spicelab (alias Oliver Lieb), I like the feeling and atmosphere
he creates. On the jungle side of things Omni Trio's Music for
the Next Millenium was my favourite, very soulful and smooth.
Dave
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Dale Walker
>
>>I suppose turning your guitar up to max, sticking it through god knows what
>>effects boxes and playing some old 70's guitar riff whilst wailing down a
>>microphone is talent! It may be fun but talent it ain't.
>
>Here, however, I must agree. Techno is the same way, however. Taking
>the same sequenced rhythm, layering it with the same wailing divas and
>"Whoo! Hey!" samples and jamming it through 10000 Watt speaker stacks
>for people to move to ain't talent, either.
>
Ah! that's house or garage. Real techno has no wailing divas! I don't go to
cheesey dance clubs, they're the ones that play Ace of base, and 2 Unlimited. I
go to techno, trance, acid and Goa parties. All of them play a totally differnet
style of 'electronic dance music' of which hardly any gets into mainstream
stations because it is *NOT* formularic pop shit. If any DJ put 2 Unlimited on
in one of those parties would not last long at all.
How many more people out there who don't know what techno really is?
Andrew Clegg
writes:
>
> Maybe so, but any "Techno" album can be put together in less than a day
> using sequencers and digital algorythyms. Push a button and out comes a
> song. Quite simply, techno music requires very little, if any, talent to
> produce.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
--
Andrew.
"Happy children are just unhappy children having fun."
- Morticia Addams
Steve Baron
ummm...cosmic baby......no.....ummmm.....silverchair...whoops they probably
don't have an album yet...no....ummm...Allan Holdsworth?......ummm.......
Steve Tibetts?.......but seriously
leftfield is up there but banco de gia will perhaps remain
more timeless stylistically....umm...orbital perhaps gets the
social comentary award.....the bjork album was playful though
Watch for Midnight Sun coming to a record store near you soon
Also LHASA (soul searcher) coming mid february on OHM recordings 12"---
peaceness
Nicky
are so called "techno" or "house" groops like 2 unlimited (Personaly i hate them
form fucking up the real technoscene) and yes there are also so called rockgroops.
But in both styles there are also very talented groops. (Allthou i'm not into rock,
i'm not bugging it.)
My opinion to this discussion is. Just say NO to all the commercial initiatives and
stay underground. If you have anything to say about another style of music DON'T
rever to these commercial initiatives.
If you want to bug some "musicstyle", try that one. So we can all form a block
against the mayor recordlabels, stealing someone's initiatives without taking the
riscs.
Keep on trying to create the alternative.
Nicky
Christopher Dilkus
in no particular order
download - furnace
kmfdm - nihil
garbage
leatherstrip - serenade for the dead
pigface - feels like heaven...
prick
smg - burn
smashing pumpkins - mellon collie...
spahn ranch - the coiled one
us and them - symphonic pink floyd
white zombie - astro creep 2000
honorable mention (i.e. not an album)
marilyn manson - smells like children
god lives underwater (the ep, not the album)
christopher
Tim Llewellyn
In article <300871...@virus.com>, Dale Walker <da...@virus.com> writes:
|>
|>In article: <4e0r66$q...@gti.gti.net> jun...@gti.gti.net (Aaron Kipness)
|>writes:
|>
|>I'm assuming you're into rock, indie or something in between. If you're into
|>rap, reggae or hip hop then I'll have to re-write this. If you're into
|>classical
|>music or Jazz then I suppose I'll have to give in 'cos they've got more talent
|>|>than anyone. Can't stand their music though! Pop and R'nB is the most
|>formularic
What about soukous? :-).
|>
|>What a load of rubbish. *A* techno album may be able to be produced in a day
|>but
|>a good one could take up to six months. As I said before, listen to any of
|>those
|>albums, before you give an opinion. There's a world of difference between them
|>|>and toss like 2 Unlimited. A good deal of real techno uses 70's & 80's
|>analogue
|>synths, not digital because they sound better. Underworld & Leftfield also use
|>|>guitars quite a lot. Their albums are so complicated there's no way you
|>could
|>produce an album like those in a day. If they could you'd see Leftfield or
|>whatever on their 1023 album by now.
|>
For me, its very obvious whether a sequencer is programmed by someone
who CAN play a traditional instrument or by a button pushing anorak.
The former can sometimes make decent music with sequencers.
|>Techno is all about composition, noises, rhythm, beat, and subtle changes.
|>It's also about throwing away the 'musicians rule book'.The talent lies in
|>being
|>able to combine these things. OK, manual dexterity is not one of the things
|>most
|>techno musicians have to worry about but I bet the average techno musician
|>knows
|>his instruments more than the average rock or indie one. A lot more thought
|>goes
|>into one of their tracks than some wanky rock or indie song.
Well, as someone who went of rock when the Smiths and the whole indie thing
arrived over a decade ago I'll agree with you on that one in some cases at
least.
|>
|>>Quite simply, techno music requires very little, if any, talent to produce.
|>
|>Talent is a very relative thing!
Sure.
|>
|>I suppose turning your guitar up to max, sticking it through god knows what
|>effects boxes and playing some old 70's guitar riff whilst wailing down a
|>microphone is talent! It may be fun but talent it ain't.
Just something you should do alone in a soundproofed room, preferably:-).
|>
|>I've not heard any recent rock/alternative stuff that's anywhere near original
|>|>with the exception of a few weird bands like Grotus.
Well I havn't heard them, but I'll agree the rock/pop/indie scene is tediously
repetitive and not only that, but I can't party to it either.
|>
|>I'm sorry but Im going to have to put your name on my bigot pile!
|>
|>/------------------------------------------\
|>| Dale Walker da...@virus.com, |
|>| http://www.gold.net/users/ge75/dale.html |
|>\------------------------------------------/
|>
|>
|>
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Tim Llewellyn
In article <4e1bvb$9...@news.monad.net>, hi...@nebula.net (Andrew Hime) writes:
|>
|>Aaron Kipness (jun...@gti.gti.net) wrote:
|>
|>: : It must seem strange to you that Leftfield appears at least 3 times so far
|>and
|>: : that around 50% of the posts contain techno albums.
|>
|>: See we have this thing called CROSSPOSTING, and this message is only
|>: reaching a few groups.
|>
|>A few?
|>
|>: : Find someone with any one of the above, have a good listen and see if you
|>could
|>: : do any better. These aren't my prefered albums but they are up there in
|>the top
|>: : 25.
|>
|>: produce.
|>
|>You have no idea what you're talking about. For starters, it takes more
|>than a day. Maybe Culture Beat doesn't, but I can guarantee everything I
|>have took more than day. And what button is it you push? I could use
|>some extra money. Not to mention a lot of it is analog. You're a tool.
|>
Who's a tool? Surely the instrument is the tool, not the musician :-).
Though most techno sounds like the opposite.
|>If what you assert is true, you have one year to make a techno album and
|>make it into my top 10 for 96. I doubt it highly. You won't do better
|>than the Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Goldie, mu-ziq, or Freaky Chakra.
|>
Hmmm, I think we all know there is far more to making a "hit" than
actually making decent music, something that is often not even a
prerequisite (what was that big hit, I wanna be a hippy or something, of
last year, total drivel). An aptitude for bullshit is probably more
important in the "so bad its good" atmosphere of todays "pop" markets.
Who wants to listen to music made by some boring spotty anorak anyway,
not me (sorry, gross sweeping generalization but I couldn't resist it).
Doug Clinton
> Agreed. I tried to produce one techno track by throwing out the rule-book. The
> techno freaks hated it. They wanted something without any tempo changes.
>
> There ain't room for drastic innovation like I do with my guitar work.
I suggest you try your stuff out on a slightly wider techno-listening
audience. If you did a good job (and you always have to accept
the possibility that you didn't) then there should be plenty of
people who want to hear it.
If techno music with tempo changes were not wanted then people
like the Orb and Future Sound of London would never have sold
a single record! Even a lot of 'dancing' techno bought by
DJ's has tempo changes.
The scope for drastic innovation is *huge* in techno - it has
always been an experimental music and always will be.
plur,
Doug
Andy
> are so called "techno" or "house" groops like 2 unlimited (Personaly i
hate them
> form fucking up the real technoscene)
I did cut away almost everything Nicky wrote, but I want to comment this
little part!!!! How can anybody say that 2 Unlimited is fucking up the
real technoscene... this dutch duo isn't *fucking* up any so-called rave
scene at all!!!! Reason: 2 Unlimited is a pop band... at tops you may say
it's a dance duo, but to even start talking about rave/techno or house and
at the same time mentioning this group that is terribly wrong.... If 2
Unlimited is a techno/rave group I've been faced with whole lot of
techno/rave music!!!!!!!!
Endre, Norway!!
PSTEMP6
>
>Mojo's best of 95:
>
>DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan (UNDERWORLD)
>Last Train to Lhasa (BANCO DE GAIA)
>Beyond the Infinite (JUNO REACTOR)
>Leftism (LEFTFIELD)
>
>These have got to be the best TECHNO records to date!
>
>
>
i have to say that seeing what people have been listening to is
generally dissapointing...except for this list......
in any case i think 95 was a very poor year for music..
however
the cd's that come to my mind are
guided by voices "alien lanes"
yo la tengo "electropura" (my pick)
pavement "wowee zowee"
those are the three i like lots..
the year before i'd say
nick cave's "i let love in"
guided by voices "alien lanes"
mountain goats "zopilote machine"
pavement "crooked rain, crooked rain"
hole "live through this"
cheers
smm
S Wood
|> 1. morphine - yes
|> 2. radiohead - the bends
|> 3. sugar - besides
|> 4. presidents of the u.s.a.
|> 5. sonic youth - washing machine
|> 6. bjork - post
|> 7. the urge - receiving the gift of flavor (trust me folks...think mm
|> bosstones with soul)
|> 8. wally pleasant - houses of the holy moly (again, trust me...
|> hilarious acoustic folk-rock)
|>
|> ...that's all i can think of...
|>
|> what i heard of garbage i liked as well...the new tripping daisy is
|> surprisingly good...oh well...
|>
|> later...
|>
|> -grote
Yeah i agree with the first one if you mean Damon Wilde. The rest well, a bit
sus.
How about
1.Damon Wilde
2.Joey beltram (Cant remeber name)
3.Orbital (The one with all the old stuff)
4.C.J Bolland Dj kicks
5.Carl cox fact 1 and 2 (Dam good value for money)
6.Anything by Sven Vath
7.Harthouse collections (Another good value for money album)
Tune of the year "Space Frog"
or Amphetamine (dodgy spelling i think)
Dj HardMutha
Andrew Hime
: ne...@vt.edu (Neuromancer) wrote:
: >Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
: >the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
: >"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
: >dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
: >Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
: >musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
: >rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
: Agreed. I tried to produce one techno track by throwing out the rule-book. The
: techno freaks hated it. They wanted something without any tempo changes.
: There ain't room for drastic innovation like I do with my guitar work.
Tempo changes? They go over fairly well in Dallas, at least. Witness
"Bells of New York" (Xen Mantra's Beefy Bells) by SloMoshun and "A Place
Called Acid" by Thursday Club, along with one other song I don't know the
name of that slows down and speeds back and was quite popular this last year.
Sturm
thread... they must all be american or something ;)
1) Scooter "...and the beat goes on"
2) NIN "Further down the Spiral"
3) Pizzaman "Pizzamania" (possibly '94?)
4) Dune "Dune"
5) Strawpeople "Broadcast" (i know this one's '94, but if anyone can get
hold of it, they're very lucky.... it's kinda ambienty-jungley-something
techno-ish... a new-zealand group...)
Well that was my top 5...
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Swag Valance
Christopher Dilkus <st93...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> wrote:
>ok, i'll put in my 3 cents...
>
>in no particular order
Well, I compiled these in this year's version of the Quick Fix Music
Review List's "1995 Year In Review" just recently, but I don't exactly
remember what I wrote ( http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~witness/qfmrl ).
This year there's also a Reader's Poll you can participate in btw.
^sv
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The Waste Land
about World Music (for lack of a better definition, let's try the one in
the preface of "The Rough Guide.").
But to the rest of you that say absolutely nothing -- GET THE HELL OUT.
If I want to read about how Mellon Collie gives me an erection, I'll
read it on some other newsgroup. Don't waste our space.
Are you guys in that much need of attention? It's called a 976 number;
try it.
David Unsworth
In article Daigoro <prov...@netvoyage.net> wrote: (nested quote -sorry)
> >1 Supergrass "I Should Coco"
> Me thinks they're tuneless and they whine too much. Why listen to third-rate
> Brit pop with the likes of Oasis and Blur to choose from?
Bizarre - why are Supergrass "Third Rate"? This is a great LP... and
if you think Brit-Pop is a type of music then you must be a journalist
this is just a guitar group making great songs
> >3 Radiohead "The Bends"
> > The best live band I've seen this year! Has the singer....
> Their new release was AWFUL and proved that they were born to be a
> "buzz" bin -to- cut-out bin band. The Chicago Trib reviewers (whom I actually
> respect for a major paper) even gave this one star.
So that's it decided then is it?
Radiohead make pretty good noise i reckon... sorry i can't be bothered
to quote the Daily Telegraph, though I am sure all of Fleet Street
will agree, but they just say what the Marketing men tell them to.
The question is... have you actually heard this one?
> >5 Oasis "Whats the Story ( Morning Glory )"
> > It's nice to see bands come back with a great second album. I
> > could swear that was John Lennon singing on a few of the
> > songs....
> Why try to be someone else?
Well, nice to see a criticism that has some logic to it. Of course
they all do try to sound like someone else (examples? oh you fill
them in...blur/r.davies...bowie/newley...pavement/fall...loop guru/can
blah blah blah...)))))))
Now ive set myself up as some kind of arrogant twat i'll tempt fate and flame
with *my* favourites... (Please flame here i like a good argument!)
(in no order...)
1. Van Morrison Days Like this (back on form, love "in the afternoon")
2. Aphex Twin - I care because u do (he NEVER misses)
3. Sabres ofParadise - Sabresonic 2 (Smokebelch all the way thru)
4. Orbital - Sniv. (not bad eh? they defy categorisation)
5. Leftfield (just takes you with it... new mixes good too)
6. Liquid - culture (it just caught my attention, now i love it)
7. Autechre - tri repetae (sp) (pots and pans then wonderful sounds)
8. Tindersticks (the studio one with "Tiny Tears")
9. Stereolab - amorphous body study centre (always special)
10. Seefeel - Succour (best yet, and that's saying something)
11. Fall - cerebral caustic (dont call me darling, the Aphid)
12. Pulp - naughty Jarvis and his rude awakenings (rude and lovely)
There it is - twelve not ten, and wrong order too, bad spellings,love em all
Biggest disappointment was the Chumbawumba heavan and hell record... nevermind!
Happy shooting!
--
Dave
Frank Louvado
: In article <4e1o6u$q...@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
: ne...@vt.edu (Neuromancer) writes:
: > Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
: > the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
: > "dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
: > dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
: > Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
: > musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
: > rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
: If you judge any music form by its lowest common denominator, you
: won't find much profound artistry. Top 40 radio hardly gives
: any indication of what popular music is capable (such as King
: Crimson, Dead Can Dance, David Sylvian, Ryiuchi Sakamoto,
: almost any 4AD artist, etc.).
: In the same way, what one hears on the typical club dance floor
: is primarily "disposable music" - listen, dance, throw it away,
: - _next! Nothing particularly deep or memorable.
: Techno written for the dancefloor is predominantly rave techno,
: though one also hears variants like deep or tribal. But these
: don't encompass the range of techno. There is also techno
: designed not for dancing, but for serious listening. Kraftwerk
: can be considered early techno, as can Tangerine Dream.
: There is ambient dub, ambient techno, just ambient, there is
: trance, and so on . . .
: As usual, the true "pulse" of any cultural form is usually below
: the surface, and might require a bit of searching to discover.
: But it's often worth the effort.
: Zenon M. Feszczak
: Ambient Dubbist Monk
Just wanted to comment that I totally agree with Zenon. I've
run into plenty of folks that tell me Nirvana is nothing buy
noise with so few chords, so few this, so simple that, etc...
And the samething happens when I try to discuss Industrial music,
like NIN, Ministry, etc... (nothing but noise...) One only needs
to look below the surface to see the real "pulse", as you put it...
Frank
Doug Clinton
>
> Doug Clinton <do...@compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Techno is not 'by definition' dance music. Check out David Holme's
> >"This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" for an excellent example
> >of some intense, moody and brilliantly composed "listening" techno.
>
> If Mr. Holme's work is "brilliantly composed for listening", then it
> is NOT (according to the definition already stated) Techno. It must be
> some other beast.
No, I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You seem to be working to some sort
of definition of 'Techno' which means 'dance music which is just
repeated samples'. If you insist on defining 'techno' in that way,
and totally disregard the fact that that is not the definition used
by the people who actually make and listen to the music then I can
see no point in further debate.
> >Keep an open mind, and open ears. Just because you don't like it
> >doesn't mean it's "bad".
>
> I don't believe I said that was the case. There are MANY things that I
> don't like, none of which are "bad". Techno music is not "bad", it is
> not "good" (I'm not sure if anything shares these moral
> characteristics, in fact). I, however, detest it.
It's true, you didn't use the word 'bad'. However, from the stream of
negative invective you used in your message I got the distinct impression
that you considered it so. Terms like 'un-innovative', 'cliche' and
'SAME FUCKING SAMPLES' usually imply to me some kind of negative
value judgement (which I summarised as 'bad') rather than simply an
absence of positive value judgment ('good').
plur,
Doug
Chris Ege
>Maybe so, but any "Techno" album can be put together in less than a day
>using sequencers and digital algorythyms. Push a button and out comes a
>produce.
>
Learning to play a keyboard or drum machine is just as hard as
learning a guitar or real drums. You think that it's so easy? Go get
yourself a TB-303 and make a techno song for us. I don't see how you
can think that just because an instrument has no moving parts, it's
somehow easier to play. Besides, there's a little more to making
music than just talent. Try creativity.
chris ege
cr...@piper.hamline.edu
Chris Ege
>Dale Walker <da...@virus.com> wrote:
>Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
>the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
>"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
>dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
>Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
>musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
>rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
>
You obvoiously have never heard anything by aphex twin, the chemical
brothers, goldie, or Future Sound of London. None of these can be
classified as "dance-club" music. On the surface, dance music might
seem to all sound the same. On the surface, all heavy metal sounds
the same. On the surface, all classical music sounds the same. On
the surface, all rap sounds the same. You can say it for any musical
genre, and it's never true. Do you think any musical industry could
be built on songs that were all the same? Until you spend some time
listening to the music, keep your unknowledgeable mouth shut.
>Christopher B. Fox
>Senior in Philosophy and Psychology
>Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
>
It's truly scary that someone about to get a COLLEGE DEGREE can be
this close-minded.
chris ege
cr...@piper.hamline.edu
Chris Ege
wrote:
>Who's a tool? Surely the instrument is the tool, not the musician :-).
>Though most techno sounds like the opposite.
>
really? and you've listened to all the ambient, goa trance, acid
trance, gabber, hardcore, hardtrance, jungle, hardhouse, acid house,
trip hop, tribal house, breakbeat, and other styles of techno? You
haven't even touched the surface, and already you're making judgements
about the music?
>Hmmm, I think we all know there is far more to making a "hit" than
>actually making decent music, something that is often not even a
the whole thing that people outside of the rave community don't under
stand is that (gasp)...... techno/rave music DOESN'T WANT TO BE A
HIT. Techno and raving is about being underground. about not making
hits. about breaking into a warehouse to hold raves. The last thing
it's about is "making it big."
peace,
Charles Martin, Hong Kong
which is devoted to jazz. I've no argument with cross-fertilization
up to a point, but it doesn't make much sense to post arguments
about various techno-punko-thrash-grunge bands to a jazz newsgroup.
Can we be a little more selective with our posts?
o--------=| Charles Martin |=--o
Purity Control
>
> : >Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
> : >the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
> : >"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
> : >dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
> : >Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
> : >musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
> : >rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
>
> : techno freaks hated it. They wanted something without any tempo changes.
>
> : There ain't room for drastic innovation like I do with my guitar work.
>
> Tempo changes? They go over fairly well in Dallas, at least. Witness
> "Bells of New York" (Xen Mantra's Beefy Bells) by SloMoshun and "A Place
> Called Acid" by Thursday Club, along with one other song I don't know the
> name of that slows down and speeds back and was quite popular this last
> year.
you're probably referring to "set u free (fever mix)" by planet soul. goes
from a typical house opening, then to a clubbish breakbeat, then it slows
down to a hip-hop break with a girl shouting "planet, planet, planet soul"
over the top, and then slowing down to about 3 bpm... and just when you think
it's done, it KICKS RIGHT BACK AGAIN!
god, i love that song. =)
have a blast,
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dale w. madden
Dale Walker
>
>>Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
>>the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
>>"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
>>dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
>>Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
>>musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
>>rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
>>
I didn't write that bit! You've got your cutting and pasting wrong mate. I'm
totally into techno... See my web page for proof and totally agree with
everything you've got to say!
>You obvoiously have never heard anything by aphex twin, the chemical
>brothers, goldie, or Future Sound of London. None of these can be
>classified as "dance-club" music. On the surface, dance music might
>seem to all sound the same. On the surface, all heavy metal sounds
>the same. On the surface, all classical music sounds the same. On
>the surface, all rap sounds the same. You can say it for any musical
>genre, and it's never true. Do you think any musical industry could
>be built on songs that were all the same? Until you spend some time
>listening to the music, keep your unknowledgeable mouth shut.
>
>>Christopher B. Fox
>>Senior in Philosophy and Psychology
>>Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
>>
>It's truly scary that someone about to get a COLLEGE DEGREE can be
>this close-minded.
>
>chris ege
>cr...@piper.hamline.edu
>
>
>
--
Maha
Hi Fi Del
>8) Synaesthesia - Embody. As usual with Front Line Assembly's prolific
>side projects, anaur of cynical calculation pereates this disc of
>ethnotrance. Despite the synth presets and rapacious sampling of FSOL
>etal, darkness and attention to song progression results in superior
>product.
Have you heard the newer double disc release, Desideratum? It
contains much more interesting material than the first one.
-Matt
Keith E Taylor
: In article: <4du9ij$4...@gti.gti.net> jun...@gti.gti.net (Aaron Kipness)
: writes:
: >
: >Mojo (Mo...@val.net) wrote:
: >: Mojo's best of 95:
: >
: >: DubNoBassWithMyHeadMan (UNDERWORLD)
: >: Last Train to Lhasa (BANCO DE GAIA)
: >: Beyond the Infinite (JUNO REACTOR)
: >: Leftism (LEFTFIELD)
: >
: >: These have got to be the best TECHNO records to date!
: >...and we all know how TOUGH it is to write TECHNO music, right gang?
:
: I suppose you've heard the above then? I bet you haven't! I bet you think techno
: is 2 unlimited, ace of base and Doop.
:
: It must seem strange to you that Leftfield appears at least 3 times so far and
: that around 50% of the posts contain techno albums.
:
: do any better. These aren't my prefered albums but they are up there in the top
: 25.
:
: bothered.
:
: /------------------------------------------\
Andrew Hime
: >
: > : >Bullshit. Techno is all about pumping out as much cheezo crap using
: > : >the same rhythms, same sequences and SAME FUCKING SAMPLES as the
: > : >"dance-club" attending public will buy into. Techno is by definition
: > : >dance music... which is itself by definition un-innovative and cliche.
: > : >Hence, precisely what techno is NOT doing is "throwing away the
: > : >musician's rulebook".... Techno "musicians" wrote the "musician's
: > : >rulebook" for the 1990's dance-club generation.
: > : Agreed. I tried to produce one techno track by throwing out the rule-book. The
: > : techno freaks hated it. They wanted something without any tempo changes.
: >
: > : There ain't room for drastic innovation like I do with my guitar work.
: >
: > Tempo changes? They go over fairly well in Dallas, at least. Witness
: > "Bells of New York" (Xen Mantra's Beefy Bells) by SloMoshun and "A Place
: > Called Acid" by Thursday Club, along with one other song I don't know the
: > name of that slows down and speeds back and was quite popular this last
: > year.
: you're probably referring to "set u free (fever mix)" by planet soul. goes
: from a typical house opening, then to a clubbish breakbeat, then it slows
: down to a hip-hop break with a girl shouting "planet, planet, planet soul"
: over the top, and then slowing down to about 3 bpm... and just when you think
: it's done, it KICKS RIGHT BACK AGAIN!
: god, i love that song. =)
Oh, no... I love "Set U Free" by Planet Soul as well, but the song I'm
thinking of came out more recently and has no vocals. So that's four
songs with tempo changes, just to piss off that lame "industrial" guy who
thinks us "techno" people don't like tempo changes.
Alberto Puente
>
> time for my playlist thingy.
>
> 1) goldie "timeless"
> 2) download "furnace"
> 3) smashing pumpkins "mellon collie.."
NEXUS-Top 3 of 1995:
1. AIR LIQUIDE - Stroboplastics (Harvest)
2. MOUSE ON MARS - Iaora Tahiti (Rough Trade)
3. NATURAL BORN GROOVE - Forerunner (Alphabet City)
(c) nexus 1995
Tim Llewellyn
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.96012...@elaine19.Stanford.EDU>, The
Waste Land <po...@elaine19.Stanford.EDU> writes:
Waste Land, not that I disagree that cross-posting to alt.music.world
has become tediosly overenthusiastic recently, but have you investigated
using kill files for the threads you dislike?
--
"When I play my guitar people they just dance." Soukous
Tim Llewellyn, Physicist Programmer, Bristol Uni Particle Physics. Makossa
HEPNET/SPAN 19716::TJL Internet t...@siva.bris.ac.uk Soca
Soukous, OpenVMS and cricket addict. Eats NO animal products. Hilife
Read at your own risk, standard disclaimer applies. Zouk
http://juno.phy.bris.ac.uk/~tjl/ (New pictures too nov 95) Mbalax
-
Kimberly Haynes
specific news group aren't we supposed to talk about the specific subject
at hand? Am I wrong or am I right? Think about it and cut the crap about
this other stuff that doesn't have anything to do about Zepplin! PLEASE!
WErK krAfT
WishFM
funki porcini "hedphone sex" ninja tune
hardkiss "delusions of grandeur" hardkiss
v/a "a taste of pork" quango
skylab "#1" astralwerks
spacetime continuum "sea biscuit" astralwerks
fsol "isdn" virgin
derrick carter "sweetened no lemon" organico
carl craig "landcruising" planet e
little axe "the wolf that house built"
seeya...
WishFM 96.1 - commercial free dream broadcasts live and direct from the
middle of nowhere.
Andy Finkelstein
pao...@ix.netcom.com(Parkster ) wrote:
> Hagfish- "Rocks Your Lame Ass" - the BEST.
> >
> >
>
>
>
I'd have to say it's a tie between "Pummel" by All (who produced Hagfish)
and "Sparkle And Fade" by Everclear.
stuart mann
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....ETC.......
Stuart, son of MorticiaIn article <389085...@warpfive.demon.co.uk>,
Andrew Clegg <Sur...@warpfive.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article: <4e0r66$q...@gti.gti.net> jun...@gti.gti.net (Aaron Kipness)
>writes:
>>
>> Maybe so, but any "Techno" album can be put together in less than a day
>> using sequencers and digital algorythyms. Push a button and out comes a
>> song. Quite simply, techno music requires very little, if any, talent to
>> produce.
>
>Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
>
--
stuart mann
Nate Florin
I hosted a show on my beloved college radio station (WXYC 89.3fm, Chapel
Hill, NC, USA: we live at http://sunsite.unc.edu/wxyc) on this topic last
night. We took votes from station staff as to what they thought were the
best releases of 1995, and tallied them up for this list. I'll put an
asterisk beside local things. Number one is an import-only single (two
songs), which sums up the year quite nicely. The list is largely rock,
which is weird, because the station isn't necessarily. Here we go:
1. Tortoise "Gamera" 12 inch
2. Dirty Three Dirty Three
3. Yo La Tengo Electr-o-purra
4. Chemical Brothers Exit Planet Dust
5. Raymond Brake* Piles of Dirty Winters
6. Aphex Twin I Care Because You Do...
7. Laika Silver Apples of the Moon
8. Old Dirty Bastard Return to the 36 Chambers
9. various artistes* Cognitive Maping II
10. 5ive Style 5ive Style (tie)
Sea and Cake Nassau (tie)
Just missed: "Helium" by Pram; "The Inevitable" Squirrel Nut Zippers*;
"Chewyfoot" by Wingtip Sloat; "Gentle Creatures" by Tarnation;
"Friday Afternoon in the Universe" by Medeski, Martin, and Wood;
the Wifflefist compilation "Scattered and Smothered"*
Honorable Mentions: 1995 releases by...
Aceyalone, Biota, Brujeria, Franklin Bruno, Cibo Matto, Cornershop, "Cream
of Trip Hop volume one" (v/a), Arthur Doyle, Dream Warriors, Marianne
Faithful, Flaming Lips, Flies Inside the Sun, Folk Implosion, Fugazi, Gold
Sparkle Band, Goldie, PJ Harvey, "It Came From Memphis" (v/a), Joby's
Opinion*, Karp, TJ Kirk, Chris Knox, "Iles de Solomon: the Music of
Guadalcanal", "Jungle Massive" (v/a), Bill Laswell, JB Lenoir, Lois, Man
or Astroman, Minerva Strain*, Ennio Morricone, Van Morrison, Mountain
Goats, Mr. Bungle, Pharcyde, Pizzicato Five, Rebar*, San Francisco Seals,
Sea and Cake ("The Biz"), "Secret Museum of Mankind" (v/a), Skylab, Slant
6, Linda Smith, Son Volt, Starfuckers, Stereolab, "Sturm und Twang!"
(v/a), Swingin' Neckbreakers, Throwing Muses, Unwound, US Saucer,
Whiskeytown*, John Zorn's Masada, the sort of 1994 album by Zen Frisbee*,
reissues from Neu! and Kraftwerk and John Coltrane and the Carter Family
and Silver Apples and the Toasters, "Sound Forms for the Piano" featuring
various twentieth century classical piano wankers, and "any amazing
Arhoolie or Folkways or Ellipsis Arts release".
Conspicuous by their absence include Pavement, Palace Brothers, all of the
Wu-Tang people who aren't Old Dirty Bastard, locals Polvo and Superchunk,
and oh so much more.
I hope someone cares.
Nate Florin spo...@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~spooky
Bambi Killer
Gotta be : I wanna be a hippy, by Technohead.
Shame about Lee. She was a star!
Kris Srinivasan
w...@warpfive.demon.co.uk>:
Distribution:
: In article: <4e0r66$q...@gti.gti.net> jun...@gti.gti.net (Aaron Kipness)
: writes:
: >
: > Maybe so, but any "Techno" album can be put together in less than a day
: > using sequencers and digital algorythyms. Push a button and out comes a
: > song. Quite simply, techno music requires very little, if any, talent to
: > produce.
ANY album can be made in a day. What is this "push a button and out comes
a song" crap?
Love,
Kris.
Tim Llewellyn
In article <1996Feb3.1...@river.tay.ac.uk>, sss...@river.tay.ac.uk
(Bambi Killer) writes:
Aw, give us a break, best rip off that was thrown together
in an afternoon maybe, most annoying melody definitely.