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Music and Dancing Speeds for lindy hop?

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Wolf

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Aug 28, 2000, 9:32:04 PM8/28/00
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Im interested in the recomended speeds for Lindy-hop.

The dance style I do, although fun, is completely different to Lindy.
Here's an example of the speeds with the style I do. If anyone could help
me out here I'd appreciate it. I suspect that its not too far removed from
these speeds.

Beginners 120-130 Bpm
Intermediate 130-160 Bpm
V.Fast 160-180 Bpm

Eg. Zip Gun Bop Reloaded - 180 Bpm


Doug Elerath

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Aug 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/29/00
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Lindy (step-step triple-step step-step triple-step)can easily be danced from
sub 120 up to 160 bpm. If you watch what happens over 160, you find that,
although some leads retain the same footwork, most begin to change the dance
slightly. Depending on their persuasion, (Savoy vs Hollywood) leads will
generally include more charleston or will begin to replace the triple-step
with a single-step. This lets Lindy be danced up to maybe 175 or 180 bpm.
Above this, except for the especially fleet of foot (and there are some out
there!) the leads drop the triple-step. With step-step step step-step step
style footwork, tempos up to 200 or 210 are fine. However it starts to get
hard at this point. Above 190 Bpm I generally mix in a bunch of balboa.
Over 225 or 230 bpm I sit down.

The largest collection of tempoed swing music that I am aware of is at
www.rt66.com/~elerath
The tempos for over 3000 swing songs are available for download.

Doug

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Mike Kim

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Aug 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/29/00
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Well what type of swing are you dancing now? Zip Gun Bop is a fast, but
great song to Lindy Hop to. Do you dance the two-step? I don't know the
exact BPM on these songs, but they are all 8 count bars. These are some of
my fav's to Lindy to. Hope it helps you out.

Royal Crown Revue - Stormy Weather
Bill Haley and the Comets - See ya later, Alligator
Save Ferris - Goodbye (One of my favorite songs to Lindy to although it's
not a true "swing" song) There are two beats in this song. One slow, easy
for beginners and faster for the fancier stuff.
Peggy Lee - Fever
Benny Goodman - Flat Foot Floogie
Stray Cats - Stray Cat Strut

You'll notice a similar beat pattern in all these songs. Hope it helps you
out and good luck.

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Wolf

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Aug 30, 2000, 2:29:04 AM8/30/00
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Well mike, I actually do 'Ceroc' which is a combination of many styles of
dance and is perhaps the youngest at about 25 years old (although its
origins are from French Jive). Thanks for the info, I'm planing on DJ'ing
swing for a bunch of mixed dancers and this info is invaluable.


Mike Kim <mellam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well what type of swing are you dancing now? Zip Gun Bop is a fast, but
> great song to Lindy Hop to. Do you dance the two-step? I don't know the
> exact BPM on these songs, but they are all 8 count bars. These are some of
> my fav's to Lindy to. Hope it helps you out.
>
> Royal Crown Revue - Stormy Weather
> Bill Haley and the Comets - See ya later, Alligator
> Save Ferris - Goodbye (One of my favorite songs to Lindy to although it's
> not a true "swing" song) There are two beats in this song. One slow, easy
> for beginners and faster for the fancier stuff.
> Peggy Lee - Fever
> Benny Goodman - Flat Foot Floogie
> Stray Cats - Stray Cat Strut
>
> You'll notice a similar beat pattern in all these songs. Hope it helps you
> out and good luck.
>
> Wolf wrote in message ...

Wolf

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Aug 30, 2000, 2:36:19 AM8/30/00
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Whhohooo the mother load, thanks for the link and the info, its gonna save
me a stack of time (I've done the tempo for 500 songs already).

Oh with my style from 190-240 i sit down (no partner can keep up with me),
over 240 I take every second beat, but this looks silly until the speeds
around 280 or so. (Yeah love that swing with 320bpm!)

Doug Elerath <ele...@rt66.com> wrote in message
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> Lindy (step-step triple-step step-step triple-step)can easily be danced
from
> sub 120 up to 160 bpm. If you watch what happens over 160, you find that,
> although some leads retain the same footwork, most begin to change the
dance
> slightly. Depending on their persuasion, (Savoy vs Hollywood) leads will
> generally include more charleston or will begin to replace the triple-step
> with a single-step. This lets Lindy be danced up to maybe 175 or 180 bpm.
> Above this, except for the especially fleet of foot (and there are some
out
> there!) the leads drop the triple-step. With step-step step step-step
step
> style footwork, tempos up to 200 or 210 are fine. However it starts to
get
> hard at this point. Above 190 Bpm I generally mix in a bunch of balboa.
> Over 225 or 230 bpm I sit down.
>
> The largest collection of tempoed swing music that I am aware of is at
> www.rt66.com/~elerath
> The tempos for over 3000 swing songs are available for download.
>
> Doug
>
> "Wolf" <bl...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Sep 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/28/00
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> Beginners 120-130 Bpm
> Intermediate 130-160 Bpm
> V.Fast 160-180 Bpm
>

Being good (or advanced) and fast aren't neccessarely the same thing.
You can have amazing dancers who look really great to slow songs. If
you want to classify tempo ranges it's more like this:

115-150 Slow Lindy
151-176 Medium Tempo
177-240+ Fast tempos.

There is more to dance to in Jazz music than just the rhythm line. You
can have musical solos to dance to. Musicality is one important way to
evaluate someone's skill.

(Some examples of fast songs:)
Slipped Disk-Artie Shaw's vertion (220)
Shout and Feel it-Count Basie (225)
Five guys named moe - Louis Jordan 232.

JG


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