Letterman review: Steely Dan
ti bon ange
the charming and supple Bill Lehecka:
>-Third Guest, Steely Dan. They are very Steely, and very Danny.
>I know these guys are supposed to be classic rock guys, but I
>mean, they all look like High School Guidance Counselors.
>Nothing offensive about the song, however.
So, apparently, they only did ONE song. Bill didn't say which
one it was, but if it wasn't offensive... What a Shame?
love and kisses
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CBS orchestra, so everyone had to show off, i guess...
I liked the ending, as they vamped..."How about a
kiss..."...although did anyone catch the time where the midriff
singers sang, Donald didn't, then the gals abandoned the
line?...wasn't sure what happened there...
Donald needs a shave...
The close-up shot really showed off Donald's fangs, didn't it?
I guess the secret's out about Count Fagan...
All in all a great appearance...I would have liked an interview
segment, but I guess the boys are a little tired of the constant
questions...they must've done more interviews in the last couple
of months then they have in their entire career...
- The Charmer
Listening to Gothic over and over and over again
Lewis Saul
Just two words: Wow!
Better make it one: Wowie Zowie!
Man, that rocked my world! I was intending to have the disc by now, but I
must say, I'm actually glad it hasn't arrived yet! That was completely
wonderful -- a real treat!!!
Some of youze guys had me real scared -- like it was going to be some kind
of bad mechanical music or something -- boy am I glad that you were wrong
(of course I still haven't heard the whole disc, obviously)...
**
Cousin really rocks. Quite skeevy indeed...
**
Why the keyboard, Donald? Did he play one note on it?
Anyone know who was playing Rhodes? He looked so damn familiar... (I guess
Paul can't handle charts like that, eh? -- just kidding -- I'm sure he just
wasn't invited...)
I thought the back-up singers were absolutely yummy, musically and not too
hard on the eyes, either. And nobody dropped or missed anything --- there's
a very funky, obviously intended "trade-off" happening there with Donald and
the girls, towards the end...
Great B section too -- typically complex DF writing. Slightly extended, as
usual -- and I think it modulates right after that (only one listening,
though I did tape it)...great horn chart too (by DF, I'm sure, eh?)
Absolutely fantastic!
I cannot wait to hear the rest of these new compositions.
Congrats to D&W. I hope they make $17 gadzillion dollars. Right. Like my
teenage daughters are going to even listen to this once...
[well, maybe I can bribe them with a trade off -- Mandy somebody, Jessica
somebody, Destiny's Mother-In-Law -- I'll listen to theirs if they listen to
this!!!]
Wow!
Lew Saul
Steve_2000
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>ti bon ange wrote in message
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>>I pirated this away from the Letterman newsgroup. Credit goes
to
>>the charming and supple Bill Lehecka:
>>
>>>-Third Guest, Steely Dan. They are very Steely, and very
Danny.
>>>I know these guys are supposed to be classic rock guys, but I
>>>mean, they all look like High School Guidance Counselors.
>>>Nothing offensive about the song, however.
>>
>>So, apparently, they only did ONE song. Bill didn't say which
>>one it was, but if it wasn't offensive... What a Shame?
>
lyrics, or
>he's from the South, or he was making his own joke.
>
>Donald was looking downright skeezy, like he was trying to
cultivate a
>Cousin Dupree look for the gig. (I kept thinking of the Michael
Douglas
>character in Falling Down.) The backup singers were made up
very young and
>were wearing the appropriate outfits. They also made "come
hither" gestures
>with their hands during the choruses.
>
>I think they cut Walter's solo section by 8 or 16 bars, but
other than that
>(and the lack of the long fade-out), they did a nice locked-in
version that
>was not too different from the album take. The CBSO horns did
the backing,
>along with a few other guys.
>
>Greg
I'm home tonite and am manually taping it 'to make sure.'
Guess, I asked for it. A few minutes ago, I'm thinking 'Should I
just tune in with tape running and just watch it-see what song
they play?'...or should I check the Super Reliable NG for
advance performance specifics info from the east or where-ever.
Obviously, I gave in to the curiosity..
At first I only saw Diane's scoop from the Letterman guy. I was
gonna respond to Diane's scouting report with a (safe) bet that
the toon was 'Cuz Dupree' and that-in Very standard operating
proceedure for the Late Show-Dave would have them on Last (and
as mentioned) doing only the one tune with no interview.
Then I decided to check the RemarQ site and found the above
posts that beat out Deja.com's response time. Again.
I've archived many fave guest musical guests appearing on Dave's
show, and with very few exceptions, they come on last-doing one
song, no interview. Can't remember seeing more than one tune-
from a an official 'musical guest' (not a CBS orch sit-in
jammer) on the CBS version of Letterman. The old NBC show was
different, looser in a lot of ways.
I do have tapes of a couple of artists doing token "interviews"
in the form of 30 seconds of Dave showing the CD, maybe asking
one question along the lines of 'So you're playing at XYZ
Sat..right? Thanx for coming" right after the final commercial.
By this point the credits are on the verge of rolling.
With SD anything less than the normal amount of interview time
extended to his movie star and other celebrity guests would be a
waste of the Guys' "interview mode."
Also Letterman is not a true interviewer. He (and his wit) is as
much a part of a normal length interview as the guests. His puts
a lot of Dave into an 'interview'. It's what makes him totally
unique...and full of absurdity and irony.
Didn't the Guys allude to Letterman's bringing that style to the
mainstream in somewhere like the liner notes to the box set?
Paraphrasing-very much- 'Things have changed a lot since the
70's, and our lyric style may not have the same impact in an era
where David Letterman is doing heavy irony every night on TV.
I'd love to see Dave and the Guys do a full interview
segment..even though Dan fans may be the only ones who'd
understand it, as they'd all be riffing in similar styles, and
there'd absolutely be no straight man.
I believe I taped their one song appearance on Letterman when
they released Alive In America...and there was no trip to the
couch/30 sec interview then either.
Anyway thanks for the heads up. Since I know approx where it's
coming, I'm gonna save some tape and stick it on a specific
archive tape of one song perfs from fave artists on Letterman
and Leno (Jay usually does the same end of show
thing...sometimes he'll chat a bit more.)
I'm also scheduling to be home 3/15 to manually tape the In The
Spotlight performance sheduled on Channel 9 SF that evening. For
Bay Area fans, Channel 9-KQED broadcasts in stereo as does
Channel 60, KCSM, San Mateo. Channel 54,KTEH, San Jose, does
not. I have not been able to get the broadcast dates/times for
those last two PBS outlets.
Steve
Greg Anderson
Mike Littrell
>So, apparently, they only did ONE song. Bill
> didn't say which one it was, but if it wasn't
> offensive... What a Shame?
Cousin Dupree
They sounded as good as ever!
Mike
ComeHereMySweet
>Paul can't handle charts like that, eh? -- just kidding -- I'm sure he just
>wasn't invited...)
That was Ted Baker, the new Keyboard player for Steely Dan. I just finished
watching the Letterman show and I LOVED it so much!! I love Steely Dan more
than ever. It almost feels like I have been reborn, in a way.
Eric
mars tokyo
ComeHereMySweet wrote:
I just finished watching the tape of Lettreman I made last night---and it was
VERY good---not as extended a version as on the PBS special but given the
truncated format of Letterman they did a VERY nice job with the song (which has
totally grown on me like kudzu!)...I wish they'd have had time for an
interview-- the short segments on the PBS special--especially with the fanzine
guy, about musicians that used to play with them who now hate them-- that was
hilarious.
BTW-- is Diane the only other female on this newsgroup. What's with that?
Steely Dan is just a *guy thing*? I've loved them forever!!! where are the
other women Dan-fans?
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assume, from the comments in this thread, that they were more compelling
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Doctor Wu
Did you get your new VCR in time?
Woke up this am at 4am and headed for the airport... The fangs (Count
Fagen-u-la) were really visible last nite... I thought his glasses were
funny! His eyeballs were always roving around while singing too... I did
feel Donald is certainly aging faster than his Bard College counterpart.
I need to review the tape now and see what else was going on. My
concentration was on Fagen's ability to belt out the song - I thought he
was weak a few bars.
Your comment about his posture and singing up to the mike was right on.
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>I need to review the tape now and see what else was going on.
>My concentration was on Fagen's ability to belt out the song -
>I thought he was weak a few bars.
What was all that gear in a box behind the keyboard player? It was very
obvious, and the meters were bouncing with live levels. Was that extra
recorded instruments synced with the live performance, or was it real-time
processing things on the way to the house sound board, or what?
Greg
Steve_2000
I believe most keyboardists (and other players-but especially
keyboardists) store their synth modules, effects procressors etc in
racks. These may or may not include extensive sampling or triggered
sequencer type devices that can significicantly add to the
band's 'live' sound.
Many keyboard/worksstations these days have enough power to sound like
a complete band-without anything in a rack. My friend has one, used for
composing-recording demos, that plays at least 16 tracks of stuff
including 'drums' and 'horns', and can play an entire set (or more)
worth of songs-all from the stuff inside the keyboard itself..if you
like those particular sounds. If you don't, you buy modules to add
sounds and put em in a rack.
The 'bouncing meters' I've seen are generally just l.e.d. input or
output meters on a power amp or processing device.
Expensive samplers don't have that kind of look, from what I've
seen...more a several rack- space panel, with some controls I think.
I posted on another thread about an infamous major tour I got backstage
on a couple of years ago that had Everything-all music, drums and
Background vocals- pre-recorded and coming from
computers/samplers/sequencers. The lead vocalist and some instrumental
solos were all that was live. On that tour the computers etc that
controlled the show were all up in the sound-board/mixing area.
In the Milli-Vannilli backlash era of the early nineties it was
discovered that Many big groups were using sampling-sequencers
controlled by computers and onstage triggers in varying degrees to
enhance their 'live'shows- (think 'pre-recorded parts'). It was
considered an expose at the time, and fans were upset, but all that
really came of it was that it was more cleverly hidden. It's still very
widely done.
At the time Rolling Stone published an article on the subject
mentioning that if you saw more than one computer in the mixing station
(the automated lighting generally runs off a computer) there was a good
chance that some of the 'performances' were pre-recorded. Another
giveaway *can be* a headset on the drummer, so he can count off the
songs according to the computer's clock, and keep everything in time
with it. Sometimes a group playing almost everything live still plays
to a computer clock so the automated lights cue correctly.
As Dr.Diamond (currently 'Drunken S.O.B.') posted on the other thread,
industry veteran (and really, a legendary performer/producer) Al Kooper
wrote a column on "cheating live" recently in EQ magazine. He described
the what the advanced hard and soft-ware can do and named some big
names. (Steely Dan was definitely Not one of them.) I can tell ya, I
saw 12,000 people watch a 'performance' of traditional pop rock that
was 95% computerized/pre-recorded-and 'sold' as a live performance. The
audience bought it.
It's very obvious that many of the pop Boytoy and Teen Queen acts use a
Lot of prerecorded stuff, including vocals, as many can't sing the
recorded vocals-(however that was managed) 'live'...at least on TV
shows where other groups are singing live.
In my other post, I mentioned Steely Dan appears to have a totally
honest stage performance.
From AIA and other live things I've heard, the TV appearances I've seen
and all 3 90's tours...they play and sing everything live . If there is
a 'sampled' sound up there somewhere, I'd think it was being played by
a human, not a computer and would only be there as part of a synth
patch. Heck on at least on one tour, they had a guy on vibes (and other
stuff). Most bands would have had a keyboardist cover that stuff with
vibe sounds from a keyboard/sampler.
Steely Dan (drum loops etc on CD's aside) appear to be coming from an
honest traditional jazz or old fashioned rock and roll point of view
when performing their material live.
They may have a state of the art synth onstage somewhere, but it and
all other playing and singing look to be done in real time by real
players. They always have a hell of a band, with personnel to cover all
the parts (and add new ones to the older songs). Don sings fine. Looks
and sounds like the real deal to me.
Someone mentioned the solid drumming - I think it was described as
a 'metronomic type beat'-on the Letterman appearance. Ricky Lawson? I
agree he kept it pretty straight, but it was tight and in the pocket,
driving the tune. They had a great groove going on Cuz D and he was at
the center of it with a snapping snare, dead on. It was hard to see him
up in back behind the plexiglass shielding, but I didn't see any
headset...
Steve
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ti bon ange
>Diane,
>Did you get your new VCR in time?
Tragically, Doc, I did not. Sigh....
>Woke up this am at 4am and headed for the airport...
>The fangs (Count Fagen-u-la) were really visible last nite... I
>thought his glasses were funny! His eyeballs were always roving
>around while singing too...
Well, at least he's still GOT teeth, in more ways than one! I
loved those glasses--it was so cool, for once, to be able to see
his eyes. Seems he always has those deep black wraparounds on. I
felt connected to what he was doing, including that bit about
roving eyes... looking down at the sheet music to check the
lyrics (to no avail!).
>I need to review the tape now and see what else was going on.
>My concentration was on Fagen's ability to belt out the song -
>I thought he was weak a few bars.
I was really surprised to see him standing, and it seemed to me
he was doing some kind of modified locomotion/shuffle step,
almost dancing, at times. Of course, Walter was doing his classy
hipster guy bit, head tilting back and forth while his cast-down
eyes addressed his guitar lovingly--so smooth, like when he did
Josie on Letterman in 1995--except Cuz was much more rockin, but
still very smooooooth.
I agree with all the production comments here, by the way.
Walter's guitar should have been louder, and the entire band
sounded a little grey, with the exception of the vocalists. I
wish they'd done that better.
>Your comment about his posture and singing up to the mike was
>right on.
Kinda looked like he was in pain, didn't it? A real strain
happening there, it seems.
Glad you got home safe, Doctor Wu. Thanks so much for the
prescriptions (especially that *one*, if you take my meaning...)
love and kisses
diane
>
>
>-- DOC
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>I was really surprised to see him standing, and it seemed to me
>he was doing some kind of modified locomotion/shuffle step,
>almost dancing, at times.
Indeed, and did he even play a single note on that strap-on? :>
Marc Z.
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ti bon ange
>Indeed, and did he even play a single note on that strap-on? :>
Yeah, he opens up the song with it, and then ends with it, as
well.
I'm not positive, because he seems to have some kind of
spasmodic limb gestures hsppening in performance these days, but
I mentioned already that there is a little control box or
something under his fingertips on the 'neck' of that Lync L4,
and it appears to me (even on repeated reviews of the tape) that
he may be making something happen--either modulating a sound or
adding a sound to the mix--when he touches the buttons.
I'm not positive, and I can't hear any significant difference in
the sound (except for those bits at the very beginning and the
very end), and he does have the expressive fingers, arms, limbs
and head-toss going on.
And a note to (I think) Greg, who was talking about the horn
section Friday night: I saw the horn section of the CBSOrchestra
in the front row, and in the back row, I saw Bumpus, Leonhart
and Pugh of the Steely Dan Orchestra.
I don't know if it was here I read this, but I think it's pretty
cool that keyboardist Ted Baker has a regular gig playing piano
in the orchestra pit for The Lion King, for Christ's sake! Man,
he must be having one hell of a year! A smash, sold-out Broadway
show AND being tagged to play keyboards with Steely Dan! But I
understand he's not going to 'endure the tyrrany of the
disallowed' with the band out on the road this summer. Probably
smart. He is one amazing piano player, I tells ya.
love and kisses
diane
love and kisses
diane
Lewis Saul
>wish they'd done that better.
>
About the "vocalists." I hope Diane doesn't think I'm a creep (I'm happily
married) --
but is anyone else totally in love with the girl in the middle? Uh, yes, --
I like the girl on the left and the black one too, but the one in the
middle -- uh, okay, I'll stop now...
About Ted Baker -- there are several spots where his Rhodes comes twinkling
through -- quite beautiful playing -- that Rhodes sound is still the one for
me -- I look at my old suitcase, all packed up, jealously eyeing my Alesis
QS8, thinking how sad that everyone is trying to imitate him -- but you know
what,,,
the 6-8 rhodes-type patches on the QS (even though I can modify 'em however
I want) -- will NEVER replace my old locked-up Rhodes...
Sigh>>>>>for the mid-70's when I heard Don Grolnick at Max's Kansas City
playing with Larry Carlton and Steve Marcus (what ever happened to him? --
anyone remember "Candles" -- great tune...)
okay, more coffee..
ls
ti bon ange
>About the "vocalists." I hope Diane doesn't think I'm a
>creep (I'm happily married) -- but is anyone else totally in
>love with the girl in the middle? Uh, yes, -- I like the girl
>on the left and the black one too, but the one in the
>middle -- uh, okay, I'll stop now...
No, Lew, I don't think you're a creep. My lust for Walter knows
no bounds (well, it must know some bounds, I guess, but not very
fucken many), and he isn't even scantily clad! Married doesn't
mean DEAD, for goodness' sake!
I do hope, for the benefit of Victoria Cave, Cynthia Calhoun and
Carolyin Leonhart that you have also noticed this incredible
thing they do (no, nothing to do with the way those hips just
keep on undulating around from side-to-side, front-to-back).
These three women manage to take their three voices and make
them sound like one voice with three tones. I guess if you
say 'teutonic' when describing a two-toned operatic voice, the
Bare Midriff Section of the Steely Dan Orchestra must be the
personification of a tritonic voice!
Then, on the occasion where one of them has a solo, or an
opportunity to wrap a sort of gospel riff around what Donald or
one of the instruments is doing, you hear the uniqueness in each
of their voices. Your True Love, Carolyn, is a veteran of the
Steely Dan Roadshow already and has been broken in by the music.
The other two women, Victoria Cave (the redhead) and Cynthia
Calhoun (the Black singer) are newcomers, but you can tell they
have ideas of their own about how to make these songs their own.
Are they beautiful? Are you nuts? Of course they are. But they
also are bravura vocalists, so I hope no testosterone-soaked
viewer is missing that. Even with those tight, skimpy outfits, I
have a feeling they'd like to be known for their singing talents.
It's really funny. After seeing these women perform (and they
are mesmerizing live), I started thinking of the history of
backup singers in rock/n/roll. There have been a few cases where
the backup singers stole the show, but not as decidedly as the
Steely Dan Three have stolen the ... er... hearts? another
organ, perhaps? of the men around here who've seen them perform.
What sprang to mind was Tina Turner in the 1980s, when she was a
solo act, making her own name without Ike. God-DAMN, that woman
had backup singers! The female energy on that stage was enough
to make me slink home ashamed to call myself a woman! Of course,
Tina Turner... nuff said, I'm sure. And I got over the
inferiority complex (for the most part, anyway).
I know you boys all love the little rags and tight pants (little
tops and tight capris) the Steely Singers are wearing. But I'd
love to see them decked out in evening gowns sometime, maybe
with those long black gloves the showgirls wore for Sinatra...
Now THAT would make a statement while singing Cousin Dupree!
For more on the backup singers, see my all-too-frequently-hyped
review at John Granatino's page. If you need the link, email me
at jacko...@aol.com, because if I post it one more time, it's
gonna start looking more than a little self-serving.
mars tokyo
Doctor Wu wrote:
> Diane,
>
> Did you get your new VCR in time?
>
> Woke up this am at 4am and headed for the airport... The fangs (Count
> Fagen-u-la) were really visible last nite... I thought his glasses were
> funny! His eyeballs were always roving around while singing too... I did
> feel Donald is certainly aging faster than his Bard College counterpart.
HEY WU!!! don't be gettin down on Donald's looks, man. He's fuckin
adorable!
I loved his glasses--and is eyes weren't rolling around, they were
*roaming* a little but only in that lacivious way he's so famous for. And
as for his fangs-- just CUT IT OUT RIGHT THERE!!!! I love his fangs!
they're dead sexy! he's two years older than Walter-- you wait until Walter
gets to be his age and see how old he looks!
mars :-)
>
>
> I need to review the tape now and see what else was going on. My
> concentration was on Fagen's ability to belt out the song - I thought he
> was weak a few bars.
>
> Your comment about his posture and singing up to the mike was right on.
>
> -- DOC
> ........................
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> . lets do it right .
> .doct...@hotmail.com .
> ........................
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<snip>"
>gonna start looking more than a little self-serving.
>
>love and kisses
>diane
>
Ooh. I'll take em. My wife just said it's okay for me to love Carolyin
Leonhart *and* you, since "I'm not dead yet." :)
I should have made it clear immediately that I totally respected their
musical abilities. Like someone without such abilities would be on the same
stage with D&W...
I loved the end of CD when they were weaving in and out of the "ooh eee"
section with D's voice -- but somewhere midway through the song, you could
hear some astonishing things happening back there...
No, I should have made it very clear that their great musicianship was on
display along side their...
**
Okay, 'nuf of that...
**
Tina Turner sings backup for Frank Zappa on "Overnite Sensation" (1973). Her
multi-tracking on "Montana" is something FZ fans discuss a lot. I think she
probably formed a mutual admiration society with Frank during those
sessions...listen to all those incredible licks -- and yes, some of it (I
think) has been electronically altered -- but that doesn't diminish her
abilities by one iota...
**
I have a feeling I'll be making some massive posts here tomorrow when the
mail arrives...
OOOOH -- EEEEH, I can't wait to see...
ls
P.S. Care to discuss your love's "11 Tracks" sometimes? (I've not been a
regular here, really -- so perhaps I missed your comments)
I seem to be in somewhat of a minority -- but I honestly think this music is
as good as anything SD *or* DF did...
My barometer is always how I feel after the 100th listening session or so --
if I'm still groovin' to it and hearing new beautiful things all the time, I
consider it to be a great release...
Of course the above is true for every single SD release and D's two solo
efforts. While I'm waiting for 2vN or TAN, I've been listening to
everything.
I still didn't get an answer to my post about Citizen....wasn't it true that
they weren't happy with the remastering?
Did Katy Lied *ever* get remastered to their satisfaction? On CD? [I only
have LPs for the old stuff]
**
Lewis Saul
The Frank Zappa Musical Resource Institute (TFZMRI)
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Monica
What a treat! :)
It amused the heck out of me that they did "Cousin Dupree." Did they
ever do "Everyone's Gone To the Movies" on TV? ;)
Yes, the backup singers are as beautiful as they sing. (Yum!)
-Monica
(mostly lurker, occasional poster)
ti bon ange
>I have replayed this thing about 8 times now. His eye's wonder
>stage left about every verse or so to keep up with the words...
Indeed, Doctor, you are correct, as I noted (but incorrectly
attributed to someone else) in an earlier post. He looks at that
music stand a whole bunch.
>Regarding Walter and Donald, you and Diane can continue to lust
>after "the boys", but I think at the end of the day, when they
>go home they've got the life partners they were looking for.
Response 1:
>you and Diane can continue to lust after "the boys"
Gee, really? Is it okay if a bunch of our girlfriends also lust
after the boys too, huh, dad?
Response 2:
>I think at the end of the day, when they go home they've got
>the life partners they were looking for.
Whew, what a relief. I thought maybe they were actually coming
over to my house!
Response 3:
>Regarding Walter and Donald, you and Diane can continue to lust
>after "the boys", but I think at the end of the day, when they
>go home they've got the life partners they were looking for.
Doc, do you also pop little kid's party balloons just when the
fun gets going?
You write the best straight lines!
Seriously, we aren't serious. Did you think we were? I'm not
quite ready to embark on a brilliant career as an embittered
stalker, although I reserve the right to revisit that option if
my shot at being a faded ingenue doesn't pay off.
On the other hand, I aint eggzackly dead, am I!!!? And there is
something about Walter (and Donald, yes, I see that too)...
love and kisses and maybe a nice forehead massage for Dr. Wu
Doctor Wu
true"...
>Mars Tokyo Wrote:
>I loved his glasses--and is eyes weren't rolling around, they were
>*roaming* a little but only in that lacivious way he's so famous for.
>And as for his fangs-- just CUT IT OUT RIGHT THERE!!!! I love his fangs!
>they're dead sexy! he's two years older than Walter-- you wait until
>Walter gets to be his age and see how old he looks!
>
>mars :-)
>
I have replayed this thing about 8 times now. His eye's wonder stage left
about every verse or so to keep up with the words... I know it's the words
because (believe it or not) they can't read a lick of music.
Regarding Walter and Donald, you and Diane can continue to lust after "the
boys", but I think at the end of the day, when they go home they've got the
life partners they were looking for.
-- > DOC
mars tokyo
Doctor Wu wrote:
sheesh---- what a killjoy!
I would have thought Steely Dan fans had a well developed sense of humor.
mars :-P
ti bon ange
>Apologies for the late nite sanity check I tossed out there, it
>was a momentary knee jerk reaction to a ping-pong match you two
>were on... It's rather interesting at times. I think you two
>should IMMEDIATELy resume the fantasy please!
Doc, it goes without saying that when you are dealing with a
coupla really bent minds whose music is filled with erotic
imagery and forbidden thought, that all lusting after--whether
it be after scantily clad (but highly talented) backup singers
or overdressed (but highly talented) singer/musician/composers--
has got to be considered fair...er... game, so to speak.
It just goes with the territory.
By the way, regarding the many comments on Donald's fangs and
his appearance of aging... I think he's better-looking now than
he ever was back in the Seventies. He is an incredibly handsome
man, and the way he kind of squinted his eyes and opened his
mouth wide to sing those hard notes bestowed upon him a kindly,
beatific, bemused expression I found totally charming--even
though I think Walter oozes sex in greater volume.
As we all know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm just
happy to see, in these plastic days, that handsome and beautiful
are not reserved for Playboy models and pretty-boy movie stars.
And I think we ALL should be glad of that, oui?
Mais oui!
love and kisses
Doctor Wu
>
Diane and Mars:
Popping balloons, killjoy, etc...
Apologies for the late nite sanity check I tossed out there, it was a
momentary knee jerk reaction to a ping-pong match you two were on... It's
rather interesting at times. I think you two should IMMEDIATELy resume the
fantasy please!
It's better than having to sift through the results of Super Tuesday!
PLEASE, no Gore/Bush/Forbes/McClain fantasies, OK ladies?
-- DOC (saving my lusty posts for alt.music.mariah.carey)
mars tokyo
Doctor Wu wrote:
> >sheesh---- what a killjoy!
> >
>
> Diane and Mars:
>
> Popping balloons, killjoy, etc...
>
> Apologies for the late nite sanity check I tossed out there, it was a
> momentary knee jerk reaction to a ping-pong match you two were on... It's
> rather interesting at times. I think you two should IMMEDIATELy resume the
> fantasy please!
>
> It's better than having to sift through the results of Super Tuesday!
>
> PLEASE, no Gore/Bush/Forbes/McClain fantasies, OK ladies?
>
> -- DOC (saving my lusty posts for alt.music.mariah.carey)
> ........................
Poor Doc-- he lusts after Mariah Carey-- that's like me lusting after Ricky
(make me puke) Martin.! And you have to ASK how someone could lust after
Donald Fagen? Puh-leeeeze-- the man personafies the word!!
mars :-)
Mam'zelle Canard
>I have replayed this thing about 8 times now. His eye's wonder stage left
>about every verse or so to keep up with the words... I know it's the words
>because (believe it or not) they can't read a lick of music.
Howdy, Doctor Wu! Just wanted to jump in here with a friendly correction: I
have incontrovertable evidence that this "not-able-to-read-music" thing
you're saying here is in fact not true. A couple of my
Dan-memorabilia-collecting friends have, framed on their wall, a page of
musical score hand-written out by Donald (happens to be an arrangement of
"Josie" from when he was playing small NYC clubs in the early '90s). I was
tickled to see he writes his quarter-notes just like one of my old music
teachers used to.
Now I do seem to recall Walter, somewhere in one of his "writhings" on the
official SD site, joking around about learning how to *sight-read* music at
last. But that's a different kettle of fish from not being able to read
music at all. I took classical piano for years as a kid, and still didn't
become truly proficient in sight-reading until I joined a community chorus
years later.
Anyhoo ... in the spirit of "let's keep it light" ... hail and welcome, Ms.
Mars Tokyo! As Diane will be the first to tell you, I too am head-over-heels
crazy about Donald. Missed the Letterman appearance, but got the whole of
the PBS broadcast to hyperventilate over the Fagen fangs ... hell, the Fagen
*everything.* There is just *something* that comes over that man when he
goes into performance mode--I still dunno what, but whatever it is, if it
could be bottled it would outsell Viagra. (Oh be still my beating heart
... )
Miz Ducky
contemplating founding the Donald Fagen Crush Club
Mam'zelle Canard
mizd...@drizzle.com
"Then the room turns bright/And fills up with light ..."
mars tokyo
Mam'zelle Canard wrote:
Anyhoo ... in the spirit of "let's keep it light" ... hail and welcome, Ms.
> Mars Tokyo! As Diane will be the first to tell you, I too am head-over-heels
> crazy about Donald. Missed the Letterman appearance, but got the whole of
> the PBS broadcast to hyperventilate over the Fagen fangs ... hell, the Fagen
> *everything.* There is just *something* that comes over that man when he
> goes into performance mode--I still dunno what, but whatever it is, if it
> could be bottled it would outsell Viagra. (Oh be still my beating heart
> ... )
>
> Miz Ducky
> contemplating founding the Donald Fagen Crush Club
Hey thanks!!! FINALLY someone else who can appreciate the perfection that is
Donald!
I'm ready to start a chapter of the Donald Fagen Sexslaves!! How bout it??
:-)
marsie
ti bon ange
>He needs to go back and listen to "Hey, Nineteen" a few
>thousand more times.
because Mars wrote:
>Poor Doc-- he lusts after Mariah Carey--
Now, listen up, scurvy siblings. You don't want to go pissing
off Dr. Wu. He won't be filling either of your prescriptions
soon, and then where will you be? Listen to the fade-out on "Dr.
Wu," all the way to the end--really crank it up... hear that
incredible, pain-filled screaming? You wanna end up like that?
Don't be dissin' the Doctor. The Doctor is IN....
I'm not sure if Doc was serious about Mariah Carey, but what if
he is? Who gives a shit? Lust knows know logic. It's the most
illogical thing on earth. That's why we lust after lust so much;
it's the only time we really get to almost leave our bodies,
proclaim undying love for a person we would never want to marry,
call upon dieties--borrowing them from other religions when need
be--feel so transported during the throes that if we died that
very second... well, it would be better than getting hit by a
bus. Or exactly the same. Who knows?
Anyway, it's been my observation that the people we lust after
are not always people we'd want to be seen in public with. In a
dark room at the No-Tell Motel?.... well, that's another story
entirely.
I have a friend who, for years, has been in major lust with
Madonna. No matter what she does, no matter who she becomes, no
matter how she makes ME gag, his ardor for her never wanes, but
grows. He's a wonderful, sensible guy with good taste, and he's
very much in love with the woman he lives with. But Madonna...
she is, was and always shall be his big ol' wet dream. When he
talks about her, it doesn't jive with the guy I'm lookin at. But
that's how it is.
And of course, unrequited--but straightforward--lust is the
stuff of which songs are made, aint it?
I met the good doctor last week here in Seattle and he seemed to
me to be in full possession of his faculties. Of course, he'd
put something in my drink just before the conversation really
got rolling, but I don't see why that would skew my opinion of
him. Look--I can see right through my hand, still! See? Can't
you see it? Doctor?
love and kisses
diane <-- aint confessin a secret object of lust
mars tokyo
ti bon ange wrote:
Very articulately expressed, Diane--and as always very true. However, I sense
by the lack of response to my posts that most people here are misreading my
intentions. Which is not to dis-- but only to point out my good fortune to have
DF as an object of affection. (this is after all, a steel dan newsgroup?)....my
good fortune to be a female SD fan (incomprehensible to some)-- I mean--- YOU
GUYS OUT THERE-- just imagine liking Steely Dan's music as much as you do AND
on top of it being able to feel physically attracted to W and D....it's the
ultimate. It's so far better than having to settle for some shimmy shaker like
Mariah Carrey-- I just feel SORRY for you-- that's all.
Also--I think my humor sinking like a bearclaw in Newman's stomach. Are you
people all Dentists or something? Claims adjusters for Insurance Companies?
what does everyone DO to pay for their SD habit?
mars--an expert at stepping in it.
Doctor Wu
>I'm not sure if Doc was serious about Mariah Carey, but what if
>he is? Who gives a shit? Lust knows know logic.
>
I'm Sizzling Like An ISOTOPE, I'm on Fire, Cut Me Some Slack!
Since we've never officially observed any don't ask-don't tell polices here
in DanWorld, I thought I would play it safe here and say I do have a gender
bias - for the fairer sex, thank God.
Thanks for sticking up for me here, T-bone. Lust? Hmmm... I think necessity
is the mother of invention.
The Mariah Carey thing - well, I would imagine the male contingent around
here would think I was really wacko if I was lusting after Walter, but
since it's the farthest thing from my mind at this point, I've said it -
that's my official story and I'm sticking to it for the time being, since
it's a rather uncomplicated one. I can think of a dozen women more my age
to lust after, I was mentioning one of my musical lusts!
>I met the good doctor last week here in Seattle and he seemed to
>me to be in full possession of his faculties. Of course, he'd
>put something in my drink just before the conversation really
>got rolling, but I don't see why that would skew my opinion of
>him. Look--I can see right through my hand, still! See? Can't
>you see it? Doctor?
Let's face it -- I serve the smooth retsina when I have too.
--> Doctor (dental examiner) Wu
.................................
. throw out the hardware .
. lets do it right .
.doct...@coldmail.hotmail.com .
.................................
Doctor Wu
<scd4r0...@corp.supernews.com>:
>Doctor Wu wrote in message
><8EF0D33Edocto...@207.126.101.97>...
>>I have replayed this thing about 8 times now. His eye's wonder stage
>>left about every verse or so to keep up with the words... I know it's
>>the words because (believe it or not) they can't read a lick of music.
>
>
Thanks MizDucky, I stand corrected. I'm just reviewing the Brian Sweet
history on things, he's always rambling on and not as clear as you made the
explanation.
>
>
--
........................
.throw out the hardware.
. lets do it right .
.doct...@hotmail.com .
........................
mars tokyo
Doctor Wu wrote:
I knew it!!! I knew it!! you're a Dentist!!! (not that there's anything wrong
with that)
nor lusting after Mariah Carey or anyone else of course. Please don't take my
teasing to heart. It's something I can't control---I've been in therapy for it
but there's really not much hope.
And besides-- YOU are my absolute all time favorite SD song.
mars :-)
Xanadont
>
> > contemplating founding the Donald Fagen Crush Club
>
>
>
> :-)
> marsie
>
Well, dammit, ladies, sign me up!!!!
H.
hotrat
work who saw the Letterman and PBS shows commented on it. What's up with that
Don?
This is in no way a slam, I love SD.
marstokyo
All right H. --- this is how it starts. I think you should see what
you're in for. I previously started the International Order of U2
Sexslaves( IOU2SS) and that's spread to three continents--
please check it out at:
http://marstokyo.com/U2sssecret.html
mars
--
Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums
Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)
marstokyo
> I hate to bring this up,
THEN DON'T!!!!!! It's TIRESOME and it's OLD!!!!! and it's stupid!!
Jeez, you'd think nobody ever saw an incisor before!!!!
mars
--
hotrat
time, and if this is old news, SORRY !, I surely didn't mean to flog a dead horse.
BUT THEN AGAIN I DON'T LIKE BEING YELLED AT EITHER.
Peace
HotRat
ti bon ange
>Hey ! are you yelling at me ? if so, go fuck yourself ! I don't
>read this NG all the time...
HR, you gotta understand... yes, it has been discussed here
already, and when it was, mars was all over Donald's detractors
like two bums on a baloney sandwich.
Anything perceived as a dis of Donald is likely to engender that
response, not only from mars, but from the lovely Miz Ducky and
other totally-devoted-to-donald habitues.
The medium is a blunt one, and upper-case letters and
exclamation points sound much worse than I believe they're
intended to be.
btw, was it you who said you went to the Gorge? If so, where are
you located geographically? Just curious.
love and kisses
diane
mars tokyo
If you hate to bring something up then WHY DO YOU?
I don't know if you flogged a dead horse or not but countless people have pointed out
Donald Fagen's teeth, and I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired of it. Frankly, do you
go around pointing out people who have big asses? What's the point you're making other
than to poke fun of the man?
When you poke fun of Donald Fagen you're gonna HAVE TO GET YELLED AT BY ME...
THAT'S the WAY it IS!!!!!
so BTW-- you can go fuck yourself too
and have a nice day--
oh--
and let's sign off with *Peace*
cos that means so much!
:-)
mars
hotrat wrote:
> Hey ! are you yelling at me ? if so, go fuck yourself ! I don't read this NG all the
ti bon ange
>Frankly, do you go around pointing out people who have big
>asses? What's the point you're making other than to poke fun of
>the man?
mars, I can relate. I spent the first 18 years of my life
watching t.v. with parents who were constantly pointing out the
flaws of every single person who ever appeared there--as if they
were both such perfect human specimens they had the right to
point fingers.
But I think when a person has a feature that is pretty
outstanding, it's kind of dishonest to pretend you don't notice
it. Of course, basic etiquette teaches us not to lead off a
conversation with, "Whoa, that's some big ass you got there...
what you doin, smuggling St. Bernard's back there?"
Letterman, with his prominent lacuna, learned long ago that the
best defense against people calling him a dork was to bring it
up himself. His self-deprecating humor is a model for others
with unusual features.
And our boys were once voted the ugliest band in rock and roll.
I think they kinda liked it. And it didn't seem to hurt their
relationships with women, their ability to play fabulous music,
their wallets, or their feelings.
It's hard for me to imagine Donald would give a shit about some
offhanded comment about his teeth, or his bad posture (I made
those comments), or his voice (he jokes about this all the
time), or anything. He's far too self-possessed to give a hot
rat's ass about anything except his life, his music, his
passions and his divertissements.
On the other side of this coin, if it's not fair to point out
flaws in a person's appearance, then it can't possibly be fair
to point out his beauty. One can't exist without the other,
because it's a comparative judgment.
Me, I thought Donald looked incredibly cute on Letterman. I
loved his big teeth and wide mouth, and how when he sang the big
notes and his mouth was fully open, it looked like he was
smiling--something he rarely does. His eyes were wonderfully
visible under those glasses, and the kind of squint he evinced
added to the charm of his "smile."
Someone else might see this entirely differently, and that is
his right, in my book.
Bottom line: People with all the marbles don't have to care what
anyone else thinks of them. And you know Donald's got all the
marbles.
kevin
HEY YOU!!!!!!! HOTRAT!!!!! am I YELLING at you??????
If you hate to bring something up then WHY DO YOU?
I don't know if you flogged a dead horse or not but countless people have pointed out
Donald Fagan's teeth, and I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired of it. Frankly, do you
go around pointing out people who have big asses? What's the point you're making other
than to poke fun of the man?
When you poke fun of Donald Fagan you're gonna HAVE TO GET YELLED AT BY ME...
THAT'S the WAY it IS!!!!!
so BTW-- you can go fuck yourself too
I just happen to like big asses so lets not bring those into the conversation.
The thing to keep in mind is that everyone has opinions and those other
opinions are usually wrong. So I don't see the need to go fuck oneself
unless it is in a pinch and there is no willing partner available. BTW the
only time one can criticize anyone else's looks or features
is when they themselves are defect free. (otherwise its just hot air).
Criticize the music, the lyrics, the actions, not the person
This is your chance to believe
What I've got to say
Keep your eyes on the sky
Put a dollar in the kitty
Don't the moon look pretty
mellow out people
Kevin
hotrat
for the man ( and Walter), I bought my first Steely Dan album in 1972 ( of course, Can't
Buy a Thrill) and I have bought every thing since, solo or otherwise. I am a devoted fan
and always will be. I only brought it up because everyone I know who saw the letterman or
PBS special mentioned it, hell I didn't even notice until my friend who was watching with
me said something about it. So if I offended the delicate sensibilities you have for
Donald, I certainly did not mean to, or to anyone else out there in Dandom. Using upper
case usually denotes yelling. By the way, I have HUGE ears, and a big gap between my front
teeth, go figure. And , the " go fuck yourself " is what I say to anyone who I think is
yelling at me for no good reason.
HotRat
mars tokyo wrote:
> HEY YOU!!!!!!! HOTRAT!!!!! am I YELLING at you??????
> If you hate to bring something up then WHY DO YOU?
> I don't know if you flogged a dead horse or not but countless people have pointed out
> Donald Fagen's teeth, and I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired of it. Frankly, do you
> go around pointing out people who have big asses? What's the point you're making other
> than to poke fun of the man?
> When you poke fun of Donald Fagen you're gonna HAVE TO GET YELLED AT BY ME...
> THAT'S the WAY it IS!!!!!
> so BTW-- you can go fuck yourself too
>
hotrat
Wow, talk about feeling like your about to get tar and feathered, some poeple
have got to get a life. Anyway.......
Yeah, I was at the Gorge shows in 94 and 96, both shows were great, dennis
chambers on drums in 94, and wayne krantz on guitar in 96 were great additions.
I live in Eugene, OR, and although SD played portland in 96 I still prefer the
Gorge, it was especially great in 94, hearing all those great SD songs live for
the first time, it was wonderful. hearing "third world man' just as the sun was
setting behind the stage was an almost religious experience.
Peace
HotRat
ti bon ange wrote:
> hotrat wrote:
>
> >Hey ! are you yelling at me ? if so, go fuck yourself ! I don't
> >read this NG all the time...
>
> HR, you gotta understand... yes, it has been discussed here
> already, and when it was, mars was all over Donald's detractors
> like two bums on a baloney sandwich.
>
> Anything perceived as a dis of Donald is likely to engender that
> response, not only from mars, but from the lovely Miz Ducky and
> other totally-devoted-to-donald habitues.
>
> The medium is a blunt one, and upper-case letters and
> exclamation points sound much worse than I believe they're
> intended to be.
>
> btw, was it you who said you went to the Gorge? If so, where are
> you located geographically? Just curious.
>
ti bon ange
>Yeah, I was at the Gorge shows in 94 and 96, both shows were
>great, dennis chambers on drums in 94, and wayne krantz on
>guitar in 96 were great additions.
>I live in Eugene, OR, and although SD played portland in 96 I
>still prefer the Gorge, it was especially great in 94, hearing
>all those great SD songs live for the first time, it was
>wonderful.
I was working security at the Gorge in 1994--I only took the job
so I could see Steely Dan play two nights at the end of the
summer. I hope they do that again--wait until September--because
the weather is so beautiful (unlike the rest of the 100-degree-
plus days in Central Washington) and there is almost a hint of
autumn in the air at night.
There is a significant contingency of Danfans in the Northwest,
and they will be joined by some of the other devotees from the
south and east this summer. I don't know yet if I'm going, but
it's almost worth it, just to camp out there and feel kinda like
I'm back at a rock festival again.
>hearing "third world man' just as the sun was setting behind
>the stage was an almost religious experience.
Amen.
mars tokyo
ti bon ange wrote:
<snippage>
> And our boys were once voted the ugliest band in rock and roll.
> I think they kinda liked it. And it didn't seem to hurt their
> relationships with women, their ability to play fabulous music,
> their wallets, or their feelings.
>
> It's hard for me to imagine Donald would give a shit about some
> offhanded comment about his teeth, or his bad posture (I made
> those comments), or his voice (he jokes about this all the
> time), or anything. He's far too self-possessed to give a hot
> rat's ass about anything except his life, his music, his
> passions and his divertissements.
>
That's very sweet--and probably true (regarding DF's own feelings on his
looks)-- but ya see I'm just coming from the standpoint that this is a man who
is partially responsible for creating some of the best music around (not many
here would argue that)--and given this-- doesn't he deserve a little better
than people taking pot shots over his teeth, or his mannerisms, or posture?
....and beyond that even---it's something I had to teach my son when he was
about 5 years old-- the old *How would YOU feel if someone said you looked
stupid in those glasses?* routine... So how would Hotrat feel if someone
remarked about his crooked teeth, or his lack of hair, or his pot belly or his
stupid looking shoes or whatever? Anyone can shrug off the insult to save
face.... but on some level--it hurts. Someone as admirable as DF does not
deserve hurtful words hurled at them over the internet by some faceless
smartass.
That's all I was saying. That's all.
mars tokyo
please do accept my most sincere apologies for appearing to have yelled
at you. i do know all about netiquette and that upper case denotes yelling,
but i confess i like to use uppercase on occasion strictly for emphasis--the
way you described your huge ears-- only you typed huge in all caps, which
i won't do, cos i don't want you to think i'm yelling. since i'm not. i
don't have huge ears or a big gap between my teeth and here's a picture
of me kissing Adam Clayton for his birthday just to prove it.
http://marstokyo.com/adam.html
mars
Xanadont
was afraid to look anyway. :o)
H.
marstokyo wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:01:54 -0800 Xanadont
> <mont...@postoffice.pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > Mam'zelle Canard wrote:
> > >
> > > > contemplating founding the Donald Fagen Crush Club
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm ready to start a chapter of the Donald Fagen Sexslaves!! How bout it??
> > >
> > > :-)
> > > marsie
> > >
> >
> > Well, dammit, ladies, sign me up!!!!
> >
> > H.
> >
>
> All right H. --- this is how it starts. I think you should see what
> you're in for. I previously started the International Order of U2
> Sexslaves( IOU2SS) and that's spread to three continents--
> please check it out at:
> http://marstokyo.com/U2sssecret.html
>
> mars
mars tokyo
I forgot about the case senitivity-- the U was lowercase so try this---
http://marstokyo.com/u2sssecret.html
mars
(don't be afraid-- it's all in good fun and not X-rated)
--
mars tokyo
Lou Garue wrote:
Well, all I can say is "Ouch!"mars tokyo wrote:
. . . here's a picture of me kissing Adam Clayton for his birthday just to prove it.
http://marstokyo.com/adam.htmlmars
mmm--thanks, Lou! you think Adam'll like it??
:-)
mars
Xanadont
Hey, that was great, especially that pic of you giving Bono a bath! I'll bet he was mighty pleased...
H.
mars tokyo
:-)
mars
--
Russ Harlan
tho...@ecc.co.emery.ut.us says...
> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> Well, all I can say is "Ouch!"
> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>. . . here's a picture of me kissing Adam Clayton
> for his birthday just to prove it.
> <p>mars</blockquote>
> </html>
>
>
Lou,
While we are on the path of etiquette and flame wars...
Many people in newsgroups consider it bad form to post using HTML. Plain
text is preferred. Besides, it makes your posts hard to read from most
newsreaders.
Lou Garue
sensual. Like Frank Langella's performance of Dracula, or Gary Oldman's
'associates' in the last big version.
I really dug the persona Fagen effects live. The aging beatster, the
stubble, the glasses, the air of lechery and absorption.
mars tokyo wrote:
>
> Doctor Wu wrote:
>
> > Diane,
> >
> > Did you get your new VCR in time?
> >
> > Woke up this am at 4am and headed for the airport... The fangs (Count
> > Fagen-u-la) were really visible last nite... I thought his glasses were
> > funny! His eyeballs were always roving around while singing too... I did
> > feel Donald is certainly aging faster than his Bard College counterpart.
>
> HEY WU!!! don't be gettin down on Donald's looks, man. He's fuckin
> adorable!
> I loved his glasses--and is eyes weren't rolling around, they were
> *roaming* a little but only in that lacivious way he's so famous for. And
> as for his fangs-- just CUT IT OUT RIGHT THERE!!!! I love his fangs!
> they're dead sexy! he's two years older than Walter-- you wait until Walter
> gets to be his age and see how old he looks!
>
> mars :-)
>
> >
> >
> > I need to review the tape now and see what else was going on. My
> > concentration was on Fagen's ability to belt out the song - I thought he
> > was weak a few bars.
> >
> > Your comment about his posture and singing up to the mike was right on.
> >
> > -- DOC
> > ........................
> > .throw out the hardware.
> > . lets do it right .
> > .doct...@hotmail.com .
> > ........................
>
Lou Garue
>
>. . .
>
> Now, listen up, scurvy siblings. You don't want to go pissing
> off Dr. Wu. He won't be filling either of your prescriptions
> soon, and then where will you be? Listen to the fade-out on "Dr.
> Wu," all the way to the end--really crank it up... hear that
> incredible, pain-filled screaming? You wanna end up like that?
>
> Don't be dissin' the Doctor. The Doctor is IN....
>
critical than I meant it. It was supposed to be a warning, not a
criticism. I was thinking about the vapidity of so many young
nymphettes, ala Runaway Janie. Of course, this isn't always truth. (I
saw Jasmine Bleeth on R&R Jeopardy one night and was amazed at her
intelligence.) Those backup singers for instance, seem to be pretty hip,
no pun intended.
So, no disrespect meant! I really don't think that way.
Lou Garue
up a woman with a great body, but when she opens her mouth, she got a
shrill voice, and the shock is palpable.
mars tokyo wrote:
>
> ti bon ange wrote:
>
> > Don't be dissin' the Doctor. The Doctor is IN....
> >
> > I'm not sure if Doc was serious about Mariah Carey, but what if
> > he is? Who gives a shit? Lust knows know logic. It's the most
> > illogical thing on earth. That's why we lust after lust so much;
> > it's the only time we really get to almost leave our bodies,
> > proclaim undying love for a person we would never want to marry,
> > call upon dieties--borrowing them from other religions when need
> > be--feel so transported during the throes that if we died that
> > very second... well, it would be better than getting hit by a
> > bus. Or exactly the same. Who knows?
> >
> > Anyway, it's been my observation that the people we lust after
> > are not always people we'd want to be seen in public with. In a
> > dark room at the No-Tell Motel?.... well, that's another story
> > entirely.
> >
> > I have a friend who, for years, has been in major lust with
> > Madonna. No matter what she does, no matter who she becomes, no
> > matter how she makes ME gag, his ardor for her never wanes, but
> > grows. He's a wonderful, sensible guy with good taste, and he's
> > very much in love with the woman he lives with. But Madonna...
> > she is, was and always shall be his big ol' wet dream. When he
> > talks about her, it doesn't jive with the guy I'm lookin at. But
> > that's how it is.
> >
> > And of course, unrequited--but straightforward--lust is the
> > stuff of which songs are made, aint it?
> >
> > I met the good doctor last week here in Seattle and he seemed to
> > me to be in full possession of his faculties. Of course, he'd
> > put something in my drink just before the conversation really
> > got rolling, but I don't see why that would skew my opinion of
> > him. Look--I can see right through my hand, still! See? Can't
> > you see it? Doctor?
> >
> > love and kisses
> > diane <-- aint confessin a secret object of lust
>
> Very articulately expressed, Diane--and as always very true. However, I sense
> by the lack of response to my posts that most people here are misreading my
> intentions. Which is not to dis-- but only to point out my good fortune to have
> DF as an object of affection. (this is after all, a steel dan newsgroup?)....my
> good fortune to be a female SD fan (incomprehensible to some)-- I mean--- YOU
> GUYS OUT THERE-- just imagine liking Steely Dan's music as much as you do AND
> on top of it being able to feel physically attracted to W and D....it's the
> ultimate. It's so far better than having to settle for some shimmy shaker like
> Mariah Carrey-- I just feel SORRY for you-- that's all.
>
> Also--I think my humor sinking like a bearclaw in Newman's stomach. Are you
> people all Dentists or something? Claims adjusters for Insurance Companies?
> what does everyone DO to pay for their SD habit?
>
> mars--an expert at stepping in it.
tim r
orange peel*****
sorry, but it's true....nobody's perfect, my erect dick looks like a banana
split......
when i can raise one....
funny funny, fun.
tim r
marstokyo wrote in message ...
Doctor Wu
>I knew it!!! I knew it!! you're a Dentist!!! (not that there's anything
>wrong with that)
>nor lusting after Mariah Carey or anyone else of course. Please don't
>take my teasing to heart. It's something I can't control---I've been in
>therapy for it but there's really not much hope.
>
>And besides-- YOU are my absolute all time favorite SD song.
>
>mars :-)
>
Virutually speaking, I might be a dentist...
This whole thread is a luscious invention for three.
-- DOC
................................
. doct...@nomail.hotmail.com .
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Karyn
Sophisticated skank
Donald Fagen and Walter Becker return with the first new Steely
Dan album in 20 years.
http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2000/03/14/steely/index.ht
ml?CP=SAL&DN=110