Steely Dan are extremely popular on certain channels of Muzak. I have
heard them repeatedly in Home Depot, Kohls, Hallmarks, Bob Evans, Drug
Stores, etc. I have also heard some nifty muzaked versions (including
The Fez!) Tons of Fagen is also played. In fact, when I worked for
Kohls, I heard pretty much every song off of Kamakiriad except On the
Dunes. I used to hear a Steely Dan or Fagen song at least every hour, if
not more. It was great! My co-workers didn't understand my excitement.
What is even better, is Muzak doesn't neccessarily play the hit singles,
I also hear a lot of album tracks that are more obscure, even Donald's
Century's End.
I believe Muzak plays more Steely Dan than any other band, its just good
music. Other artists I hear a LOT are Boz Scaggs, and more recent Howard
Jones. Oddly enough, I rarely hear the Beatles even though many people
consider them the greatest.
This is so sad, and revealing, but pretty much my only exposure to
current new music and artists is on Muzak, LOL! Of course, by that time,
its old news.
mjoann
ive heard the dan, and hojo in kohls. weird, eh?
> Jones. Oddly enough, I rarely hear the Beatles even though many people
> consider them the greatest.
michael jackson might still own the rights...
Jim
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Ollie
oh the irony..Don & Walt would love it I'm sure.
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A couple months after the release of _Alive in America_, I heard a
muzak-ed version of the funkified "Time out of Mind" from that album. That
really surprised me.
NPR has always played little snippets of Steely instrumentals between stories,
but in the past month they've really been doing a lot, especially from
2AN and EMG. Last Friday, they had pieces of both "Lunch with Gina"
and "Josie".
Tim.
Just yesterday I heard "Caves Of Altmira" at 24 Hour Fitness. I
thought that it was kind of an obscure song that never got played.
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>> I would love to hear from anyone out there who hears them on the supermarket
>> music systems as much as I do.It seems they are played more then anyone else on
>> there.Im curious if this happens all over the country.Let me know where your
>> from by state and what store you hear it in. Larry
>
>A couple months after the release of _Alive in America_, I heard a
>muzak-ed version of the funkified "Time out of Mind" from that album. That
>really surprised me.
I heard "Blues Beach" on the Muzak in a store in suburban Cincinnati a
week ago. I thought, "wow, that was fast."
Mark Howell
Cedric
SD is played quite frequently on my local "golden oldies" radio station,
but as far as I can tell, *only* Rikki and Do It Again. Kind of
inevitable, but sad.
Paul Westcott
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Well, I *work* at a Walgreen's at Wisconsin...and yes, they play a LOT of
Dan. The ones they play a lot you wouldn't suspect: "Chain Lightning," "Your
Gold Teeth part 2," "The Caves of Altmira," "Any Major Dude Will Tell You."
All the Walgreen's you go to have the same subscribed station, so it should
be the same whatever. When it comes to the Beatles, when they play it, they
play older, obscurer stuff like "I'll Follow the Sun," "I Want to Tell You"
and "Girl" (yes, the background 'tit's intact!) Alomost makes you forget
they play Phil Collins almost every other song. Oddest perennial fave?
Freedy Johnston (who BTW is a big Steely Dan fan, no joke) And not just "Bad
Reputation" either -- I've heard at least half that album at one time or
another.
Mega Loopy, the Pudgy Luchador
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IGY in Eckerd Drugs last week.
NC.
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To anyone who is interested, the Snowbound DVD-A kicks ass! The Tomorrow's
Girl video is brilliant!!!
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I worked in a department store and I heard that one on muzak a few time.
>All the Walgreen's you go to have the same subscribed station, so it should
>be the same whatever. When it comes to the Beatles, when they play it, they
>play older, obscurer stuff like "I'll Follow the Sun," "I Want to Tell You"
>and "Girl" (yes, the background 'tit's intact!) Alomost
"i'll follow the sun" and "here comes the sun" are common aroudn here, along
with "here jude", "the long and winding road"..and some othrs..
New Frontier, Hey Nineteen, Aja most commonly.
IGY rarely; even Peg once.
Probably add 'Ricki' to that list. I've even heard 'Deacon Blues'..
In the 2 or 3 supermarkets very near here Steely Dan gets an occasional spin,
far from being the most played artist, at least around here. I just notice em
cause I'm a fan.
I also notice that the supermarkets' music programmers are working on a way
different formula than current radio stations.
The songs span usually the 70s and 80s, a bit of the 90s. The tunes are all pop
hits, but not necessarily the hits you hear over and over again thesedays on
current commercial radio -most stations owned and programmed by a few big Clear
Channel-type conglomerates.
I almost always recognize the tunes in stores and sometimes go 'geez, wonder
why that one doesn't get played on radio stations anymore."
I've always thought that there was some 'promotional influence' (payola) behind
even oldies/70s/80s formatted radio. Royalties definitely get paid to the
copyright holders of songs played on the radio even if the song is beyond it's
'current hit' phase.
Also, radio stations are narrowcasting tight formats to specific demographics
for advertising purposes. The almost-monopoly that is commercial radio (with
the FCC's recent relaxing the rules of ownership even more, clearing the way
for the conglomerates to buy more stations, control more of what we hear)
ignores a lot of great hit music to play the same relatively few songs over and
over again in their similarly formatted stations, playlists literally duped
from city to city.
I drive 45 mins to work everyday and go over a small mountain range which
separates the radio market I live in (major) from the radio market I work in
(small). But ClearChannel owns almost everything -and now tell you so in their
promos- and the music is the same in both markets...although a couple formats
are slightly more relaxed in the small market because there's so much at stake
re: ad dollars and because a couple of the big ClearChannel stations with the
same formats make it into that market. In other words, the small market classic
rocker goes one song deeper into an artist. Instead of the Who or the Eagles or
Steely Dan getting 4-5 songs in rotation, they get 6-7.
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Supermarket muzak now ironically shows the tremendous restrictions being placed
on radio playlists by the mega-corps owners and the current sorry state of
commercial radio.
Supermarkets are doing a different thing with their music, trying to create a
comfortable atmosphere for the customer to Buy Stuff in.
The customers range across a much wider demographic than a commercial radio
station tries to hit, so there is a wider range of tunes -all past hits though-
and a much larger playlist. I seldom here the same songs within weeks of each
other in most of these stores, though I admit I don't spend the amount of hours
listening in these stores that I do in the car. On radio, I hear the same songs
every day or every other day. If it's hit radio, several times a day (to be
expected).
The songs in supermarkets also seem to have lots of melody and/or great hooks.
I frequently hear people whistling along or humming along with the tunes. The
programmers are doing a good job it seems.
I gotta think these muzak-type programmers are aware of the songs being
overplayed on the radio and steer clear of many of them, as they don't want any
negative thoughts entering shoppers minds ..."there's that damn Eagles tune
again, I just heard it this morning on a radio station.."
On the radio it's more about what the listener will put up with. ClearChannel
et al. you to come to a station knowing exactly what kind of music you're in
for. Their reserchers figure out which few tunes in the genre/format are least
likely to get you to punch up a different station (or piss off somebody the
workplace where radio might be playing.)
In the stores it's about what makes you comfortable, happy, nostalgic etc. and
puts you in a good mood.
Wow. Music that makes you happy, comfortable and puts you in a good mood
-without beating the songs to death through overplay. What a concept.
Seems like a great idea for a ClearChannel radio format..
imo,
Steve
Normally I'd snip for brevity, but your post has alot of great points
so I didn't do it. ClearChannel has taken a big hold over the top 40/
hip hop/urban/rock/mainstream alternative rock/soft rock/AOR/oldies
markets here in Austin, TX. I don't listen to country so I don't know
what they own in that market.
I know a few business owners who've changed over to the music alter-
natives - buying subscriptions to either Muzak, XMRadio, Sirius, the
local cable carrier's digital music stations, or finally, just buying
their own 200-disc CD player and letting it play. Not sure what flavor
of Muzak you were listening to, but they have multiple genres like
XMRadio and some of them are really good at _not_ playing the hits
ad nauseum. Actual songs, not the old 'Muzak version' elevator music
that we've come to hate over the years.
When I first heard this new Muzak 5 years ago I thought that someone
had finally gotten it right, and put the music selection back into the
hands of the DJs who listen to lots of music in their spare time and
attend concerts. At least that what the huge selection sounds like.
YMMV. Unfortunately the economy being what it is has forced some of
these businesses to cancel their subscriptions to piped in music.
And that is the thing: why should we have to pay a subscriber just to
catch a earful of a new song? Why can't normal radio play more than
one or two new songs a month? Have these people even figured out that
lack of new music is one of the reasons Napster and Kazaa were so
popular?
Last night in the Apex, NC Home Depot.
Time 6:20pm
I was about to go to the checkout when it started up. I
decided to shop a bit longer.
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Darth Elvis
Denny's WV - Aja
About everywhere - A muszak version of Chain Lightning as well as the
real versions of Rick Don't Loose That Number, Hey Nineteen as well as
others I can't recall.
I used to work at Staples and they played Donald's solo stuff
everyday.
Actually to tell you the truth, I hear more music I like in grocery,
retail stores and elevators than I do on the radio. I guess that's
pretty sad seeing I'm only 21.
---->Jeff Compton
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LOL!! It would be too rich to hear that song in a mall/supermarket.
Lainalove
I wanna be your holy [wo]man,
Lainalove
Some of the more suprising SD tunes I've heard while shopping
Time out of Mind - in supermarket
Black Cow - in Walmart
and today I heard Cousin Dupree whilst in Baby's R Us....Ironic (and
somewhat disturbing) that a song about incest was playing at a baby
store...
Chris
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Ollie
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That's what I heard too... public transportation from the MA is a bit
of a hassle... I'm gonna cab it.
Ollie
Know if it's really far? I know where the MA is , I've been there once
before. I have no idea where the Rex is.
I spent a week in Toronto 2 years ago, did lots of walking....but my memory
isn't great. I remember it was in the area from the U of T, to the Eaton
Center, to the CN Tower/SkyDome
john
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>Ollie
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