Thanks,
MFabish
Ever hear of Judas Iscariot? That would be my guess
Sam
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Though I do not understand the meaning behind the name
"Pisces Iscariot", I DO know that "Iscariot" was Judas
(from the Bible)'s last name. He's the guy that betrayed
Jesus then hung himself. I don't know if that helped, but...
j.h.
Judas Iscariot betryed Christ..............
Pisces Iscariot.
matt
Billy was a Pisces. Y'now like Aquarius, Cancer, Scorpio.
Pisces ---> As opposed to Libra or Cancer. Billy is a Pisces.
Iscariot ---> Judas Iscariot.
Pisces Iscariot ---> Beats me.
Bry
I think Iscariot is a blended word ( I just did a unit on this in
English class) "I Scar Riot". I know this may seem wierd but if you
blend them together you get Iscariot. The definition also makes sense
because all thru Billy's lyrics it explains how he had a very scared
life, and "riot" can also mean "alot". Just something to think about...
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>Billy Corgan is a pisces.........
you got that part right, but...
>Judas Iscariot betryed Christ..............
from what i've interpreted, Judas Sold out....billy saying he was
selling out by releasing those b-sides
anyone else?
l8r,
cheezit
before you slip into unconsciousness, i'd like to have another kiss
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Iscariot is obviously in reference to Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus
at his death. The "Pisces" is one of two things; latin plural for fish,
or the corresponding name for the star sign. It is often quoted that
Kurt Cobain blamed his star signs for his misfortune (he was also a
Pisces; i think) and this sense "Pisces Iscariot" refers to being
misguided and/or betrayed by one's astrinomical starsign.
However, this is pure speculation and my guess is that it is purely
chosen for its aesthetic and auricular qualitys,
laters,
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andy
BillyCorgan'sWannaBeDreamGoddess
I remember reading is RS after PI came out that the title was an "oblique
reference to Kurt Cobain". I am not sure, either, if Kurt was a Pisces, but
there is that line in Heart Shaped Box: "She eyes me like a Pisces...", which
could be taken to mean "She eyes me like I am a Pisces".
Jeff
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I have a theory that could suppliment this one.
When Cobain died, Courtney Love had a candlelight vigil at which a tape was
played to the crowd of her sort-of "eulogy" to Kurt. At one point, she called
him her (this is a direct quote) "...sad little Pisces Jesus man..."
So if Kurt was Pisces Jesus, Billy is calling himself Pisces Iscariot.
There's been much speculation about the various connection(s) between Billy and
Courtney -AND- Billy and Kurt...perhaps the title "Pisces Iscariot" is Billy's
way of commenting on the comparison between himself and Kurt Cobain.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....I'd appreciate any comments on this idea.
Tony
Makes more senes than any other explination I've heard.
i read somewhere that 'pisces iscariot' can be directly translated from
some language to mean 'lost pieces' or something like that. in which
case, that seems to suit the album.
> Andy writes in and sez...
> >Iscariot is obviously in reference to Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus
> >at his death. The "Pisces" is one of two things; latin plural for fish,
> >or the corresponding name for the star sign. It is often quoted that
> >Kurt Cobain blamed his star signs for his misfortune (he was also a
> >Pisces; i think) and this sense "Pisces Iscariot" refers to being
> >misguided and/or betrayed by one's astrinomical starsign.
> >
> >However, this is pure speculation and my guess is that it is purely
> >chosen for its aesthetic and auricular qualitys,
>
> I have a theory that could suppliment this one.
>
> When Cobain died, Courtney Love had a candlelight vigil at which a tape was
> played to the crowd of her sort-of "eulogy" to Kurt. At one point, she called
> him her (this is a direct quote) "...sad little Pisces Jesus man..."
>
> So if Kurt was Pisces Jesus, Billy is calling himself Pisces Iscariot.
>
> There's been much speculation about the various connection(s) between
Billy and
> Courtney -AND- Billy and Kurt...perhaps the title "Pisces Iscariot" is Billy's
> way of commenting on the comparison between himself and Kurt Cobain.
>
> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....I'd appreciate any comments on this idea.
>
> Tony
Couldn't Pisces be Jesus (The fish was a Christian symbol), as in
self-betrayal? I can't believe Billy, who likes to keep the personal life
separate would send a coded message. If he wanted to comment I have a
feeling that he'd come out and say it.
Pisces is an astrological sign... betrayed by one's astrology. Billy is
into alot of that astrology stuff.
Fish betrayer? Nope..
matt
just to add a little thing... some interpret the 12 signs of the zodiac
and their characteristics as corresponding to the 12 apostles and their
respective traits, (the number thing fits in there too, somehow, it
think). in this scheme Judas Iscariot is linked w/pisces. the
personality traits associated with the sign make this a little more
interesting, (i can't spin them off the top of my head, but
indescision, emotional voiltilty and really, really liking
strawberries are all piscean (-ian?). Kinda Hamlet-ish.) i don't think
the title has any astounding significance or anything, i just read
this some place and went "hmmm..." so i thought i'd share. i'm not really
up on my astrology, though, so i don't know much about it.
anyway,
mer
i can't get over how fucking stupid you all are...
why is this newsgroup full of lame american twats like yourself?
no... it's a different fucking iscariot...
you thick fucking american twat
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Also note billys signoff at the end of the PI liner notes... 'peace love
empathy desire and michief' ... as you may well know, Cobains suicide
note was signed 'peace love empathy' ...
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and to think we should think *YOU* are smart - get a life ....
Yeh, since I love The Smashing Pumpkins and I'm American, I must be
the stupidest jerk alive, according to this guy.
Was Pisces Iscatiot released BEFORE kurt died? I remember when he died
Siamese Dreams song were playing on the radio and the next album was
MCIS unless im mistaken.. tho im not the biggest SP fan in the world :)
Peace. :)
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my birthdays on the same day as Billy's....
just thought I'd share that :) hehe
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