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Joshua Provost
Jason Briggeman says...
> Moonkids wrote:
>
> >this may be a terrible thing to say, but i cant stand it no more. i just =
> >want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla is =
> >like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in =
> >regards to sp sites.
>
> It wouldn't be a terrible thing to say, if you'd just put your money where
> your mouth is and stop visiting starla.org and buying MS products.
>
> If you won't do that, then you should shut up.
Thanks Jason. My server seems to have dropped the original post.
starla.org is two things:
1) A public service directory to quality (IMO) Smashing Pumpkins
resources on the Internet.
In this regard, I think I am beginning to do a fine job. Almost any
information you cold want is a click away from starla.org. News and tour
dates are right on the front page. The sites that are listed are
generally accurate, updated, and appealing.
2) A web server open to knowledgable and skilled individuals who maintain
a focused Smashing Pumpkins web site that is the best of its' kind. (Also
IMO)
In this regard, I belive I have failed to this point. The server's I
have obtained often crash, and I have been slow to implement advanced
features like CGI. I will find ways to do better in the future.
Many people complain because I won't host their site or add a link. The
starla.org front page gets about 10,000 hits each day. If I won't add a
link to your site, it's because I wouldn't put my name on your site or
stand behind it. I don't feel that it is good enough to recommend to
10,000 people on a daily basis. I will only link to or host sites that
provide accurate, thorough, and well-organized and presented information
of a factual (not personal) nature. That doesn't mean, I have shut you
out, it means I want you to work to improve and refine your site until it
is the best!
Sites like the AMSP profiles page and the I Met The Band page provide
interesting information, but they deal with personal opinion or
experience, not facts, and thus I do not believe they belong. For that
reason, I will be removing All the GLARE shortly, because it is a catalog
of interpretations, not related to fact.
Eric Agnew, Dave Asselin, and Nikki Christoff have all been told that
their sites will always have a home on starla.org, should they need it.
Josh, that goes for you too, if I haven't said so yet. Their sites
define what I am looking for; low-media, high-content.
Joshua Provost
jpro...@genuity.net
Jason Briggeman
In article <34889...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca>
>this may be a terrible thing to say, but i cant stand it no more. i just =
>want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla is =
>like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in =
>regards to sp sites.
It wouldn't be a terrible thing to say, if you'd just put your money where
your mouth is and stop visiting starla.org and buying MS products.
If you won't do that, then you should shut up.
--
Jason Briggeman
sl...@nwu.edu
spacED
In article <34889...@nemo.idirect.com>, moon...@idirect.ca says...
>
>this may be a terrible thing to say, but i cant stand it no more. i just =
>want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla is =
>like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in =
>regards to sp sites.
>
all i can say is, what the fuck??!!!! Jane Goodall is gonna kick yo mophukin
ass!
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> >want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla is =
> >like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in =
> >regards to sp sites.
Um, just to point out here, Starla.org is not jamming SP content down
your throat, like a certain major software company. It is merely there
for you to take from. If you would like to not get your info from
there, go ahead. You can get all you would ever need without going to
starla.org. But what's the point?
I think people just like to complain about big monopolies because
they're too lazy to actually do anything about it.
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Jason Briggeman
In article <3488F699...@onr.com>, be...@onr.com wrote:
>I think people just like to complain about big monopolies because
>they're too lazy to actually do anything about it.
Either that, or people enjoy using their products too much.
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Dave Asselin
>this may be a terrible thing to say, but i cant stand it no more. i just
>want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla is
>like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in
>regards to sp sites.
Let me guess. Josh won't link to your supah-dupah SP page?
Why don't you call the Justice Department?
- Dave
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spacED
In article <34894C9C...@idirect.com>, apa...@idirect.com says...
>
>A monopoly? Does starla.org stop anyone from making another page?
actually my friend was making a web page at home the other day and some
'toughs' broke in through the window. they were led by a mysterious guy in a
black Indiana Jones hat and Phoenix Suns jacket. the gang referred to him as
'J.P.'. they cut his finger nails and forced him to eat pumpkin pie, from
J.P.'s very own recipe. i swear to one of Phil Olivers posts im not lying.
Shoegaze99
SPAMSUC...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (spacED) writes:
>In article <34894C9C...@idirect.com>, apa...@idirect.com says...
>>
>>A monopoly? Does starla.org stop anyone from making another page?
>
>
>actually my friend was making a web page at home the other day and some
>'toughs' broke in through the window. they were led by a mysterious guy in a
>
>black Indiana Jones hat and Phoenix Suns jacket. the gang referred to him as
>
>'J.P.'. they cut his finger nails and forced him to eat pumpkin pie, from
>J.P.'s very own recipe. i swear to one of Phil Olivers posts im not lying.
You're swearing on one of *Phil Olivers* posts! I mean, maybe about 5% of his
posts are actually for real, the rest are witty comebackers and trolls. Not to
imply that Phil is a morn...he's actually quite intelligent, but he just likes
to have fun with his UseNet.
np: Radiohead - Climbing Up The Walls (live)
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hazelnut
Moonkids wrote:
>
> this may be a terrible thing to say, but i cant stand it no more. i
> just want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because
> starla is like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a
> monopoly in regards to sp sites.
awww now, there there. calm down. your green with jealousy and envy.
your colors are showing through!!!
-hazelnut --
Moonkids
hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of the
same feelings as i do.
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Joshua Provost
Moonkids <moon...@idirect.ca> says...
> hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of the
> same feelings as i do.
Would you like to share you reasons for disliking starla.org?
Jason Briggeman
In article <3489a...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca> wrote:
>hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of the
>same feelings as i do.
Competition's a little too tough for you, eh, Apple? Awww. Maybe if you cry
enough to the feds, they'll go destroy that big bad ol' Microsoft and leave
you to pick up the pieces. That'd do a lot for your bottom line, wouldn't it?
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J. Sherman
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Joshua Provost wrote:
> Moonkids <moon...@idirect.ca> says...
>
> > hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of the
> > same feelings as i do.
>
> Would you like to share you reasons for disliking starla.org?
I'll save him the trouble. Jealousy. Same garbage that had people
slandering Agnew a few years back. Welcome to the top gentlemen.
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Joshua Provost
Josh Sherman <jshe...@u.washington.edu> says...
> I'll save him the trouble. Jealousy. Same garbage that had people
> slandering Agnew a few years back. Welcome to the top gentlemen.
This is the top!?!
I'm still stuck in this crappy studio apartment and what seems like a
dead-end job. Plus, my girlfriend is an emotional wreck. So much for
the top!
ApathyO
In article <MPG.ef25a7ce...@news.genuity.net>,
jpro...@genuity.netNOSPAM (Joshua Provost) writes:
> I don't feel that it is good enough to recommend to
>10,000 people on a daily basis.
then you must be totally insane to let me on there... silly boy, shoulda said
'no no .. i can't help'..
as for it being a monopoly.. well boohoo..i see only healthy competition.. i
don't see anything stopping you from grouping all yer sites together.. well
except the fact that you all have ego's the size of texas and want yer own
little page to be special and very unique.. leaving you all alone in the cyber
world..
anyways does everyone have to bitch every 5 miinutes?
"When I wake up in my make up it's too early for that dress..
wilted and fading somewhere in hollywood...
I'm glad i came here with your pound of flesh" -Clove
ApathyO
>hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of the
>same feelings as i do.
>
>
yeah right.. a likely story.." in email everyone hates you.. and they all
support me.. " haha....apparently it's a joke on you to take the fall for
"them".... they dont have the balls, and lack the brain, to post it now do
they..
perhaps they don't hve ice water pumping through their veins like you seem to..
bitch, moan, cry... you're a defective product .. i always though sp fan's had
more then 3 emotions.. return yourself to the manufacture to receive the heart
you obviously weren't equipped with....don't bother flaming me.. after all, we
all know what a bitch i am....so deal with it....
Moonkids
ok, point taken. back when i was running my sp site, i tried gathering tabs,
ok, so where do i go for tabs? sadmachines of course, but the guy who runs
it (dave silverman i think) doesnt let anyone use his tabulature for their
sites. and i talked with a few other people about this, one person , being a
guy named cory who runs a sp site, and he agreed that dave silverman was an
asshole for doing that. i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org has,
i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
available, starla.org. "
like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites just
dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489B2EB...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of
the
>> same feelings as i do.
>
>So let me get this straight, just so I have it clear in my head:
>
>According to you, there are SP site owners out there who don't like
starla.org
>because...
>
>Umm... why? Like I said in my other post, starla.org doesn't have any
"clout"
>with other site owners, it hasn't forced any sites off the web, it's never
>stopped any sites from being created, it hasn't stolen or lifted content
from
>other sites, and it's never promoted itself to the detriment of the online
SP
>community.
>
>Therefore, it is not a monopoly.
>
>So where is the problem? Is starla.org too big? Does it have too much
>information? Was there too much effort put into the creation of it? Do you
just
>not like having vast quantities of information on your favourite band at
your
>fingertips for no charge whatsoever? Do you resent the fact that Joshua put
a
>lot of time and money into creating starla.org?
>
>This may sound like sarcasm, but it really isn't. I am genuinely interested
in
>hearing what possible problem someone could have with starla.org. So go
ahead
>and tell me, but don't just say "I think it's a monopoly and a lot of
people
>I've talked to do as well." That really doesn't give much information.
>
>Simon
>--
>The Burlap Pumpkin Page
>http://www.starla.org/burlap/
>
>
>
Moonkids
well im not jealous, u people sure like putting words in other people's
mouths huh? i think half of the stuff on starla.org is shit, like burlap for
example, thats shit. and the pro ne nata, thats shit too, so much for being
"the best"
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Joshua Provost wrote in message ...
Moonkids
--
ok, well obviously u didnt go to my site when i was running it, my plan was
to cover all the basics, and then add new, fresh content. i added a
javascript crossword puzzle, a java trivia game, weekly surveys, and i had a
concert poster gallery, which contained over a dozen differnet posters. so i
dont know what youre talking about when u say i dont have any pride.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489D72E...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> ok, point taken. back when i was running my sp site, i tried gathering
tabs,
>> ok, so where do i go for tabs? sadmachines of course, but the guy who
runs
>> it (dave silverman i think) doesnt let anyone use his tabulature for
their
>> sites. and i talked with a few other people about this, one person ,
being a
>
>I only have one comment on this: Dave is under no obligation to let you
have his
>original content - he doesn't owe you anything.
>
>But I have a question for your - if the content of your site is take from
>somebody else's site, why bother in the first place? I have never, ever,
ever
>understood the mentality behind pages which have nothing but recycled
content.
>What's the point? You either stick out by doing something original or else
you
>get relegated to that that vast heap of sites which all contain identical
>information and identical design. If you're going to create a site, put
some
>effort and pride into it for god's sake.
>
>> guy named cory who runs a sp site, and he agreed that dave silverman was
an
>> asshole for doing that. i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org
has,
>> i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
>> available, starla.org. "
>> like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
>> starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites
just
>> dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
>
>Hell, I didn't write. Don't get your knickers in a snit.
Moonkids
uhhh, do i have to go into why i dont have a scanner? ok, ill save u the "i
dont have enough money" story.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489DD37...@idirect.com>...
>
>
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> ok, well obviously u didnt go to my site when i was running it, my plan
was
>> to cover all the basics, and then add new, fresh content. i added a
>> javascript crossword puzzle, a java trivia game, weekly surveys, and i
had a
>> concert poster gallery, which contained over a dozen differnet posters.
so i
>> dont know what youre talking about when u say i dont have any pride.
>
>Actually, I did visit your site - if you remember, I let you use one of my
scans
>from Burlap.
>
>Oh, and if you *did* have pride, you wouldn't be bitching to the newsgroup,
and
>you wouldn't have taken an image from a "shit" site.
Moonkids
why the fuck are u bringing up apple vs microsoft? oh wait, is it because i
used the microsoft 800 pound gorrila as a metaphor? ohh i see. i guess thats
why i was referred to as some mass consumer of microsoft products, gotcha.
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Jason Briggeman wrote in message <66ccu5$2...@news.acns.nwu.edu>...
>In article <3489a...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca>
wrote:
>>hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of
the
>>same feelings as i do.
>
Moonkids
im justing offering criticism thats all, to each their own, oh, and dont
worry about me flaming you...you see mama said i should never make fun of
the mentally challenged.
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ApathyO wrote in message <19971206224...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>In article <3489a...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca>
>writes:
>
>>hmm, well ive talked to many other sp site owners and they share some of
the
>>same feelings as i do.
>>
>>
>
Joshua Provost
Moonkids wrote:
> i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org has,
> i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
> available, starla.org. "
> like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
> starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites just
> dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
OK, point me in the direction of sites better than what starla.org
offers...
Who provided more high-quality live and rare audio files than the
Archive (which is about to fully online again)? If you say the Realm,
I'll die laughing. At their peak, they had only 250 files, crap,
duplicated into different formats to make it appear as though they had
more. Please...
Who has a more comprehensive songlist with *accurate* lyrics and info
than Burlap? Name a site and I guarantee they stole every bit of info
from Burlap in the first place, because Simon did it first and
best...and still does!
Who has more bass tabs than Sad Machines? Does anyone present them in
as coherant and consistant a format? Dave tabbed out all of these
himself!
Who has more guitar tabs organized as nicely as Pumpkin Soup? Again,
does anyone present them in as coherant and consistant a format? Adam is
upgrading tabs every day. You'll only find the most accurate tabs
avaialable here.
C'mon, the best is the best, let's not beat around the bush. I won't
put a site on starla.org unless it is the *best* site of it's kind. I'm
not going to waste server space on second-rate sites, people.
As for PPRN, it gets updated whenever Onica emails me and says, 'hey,
gues what...' When it has current info, it is the truth, because Onica
speaks the word of truth, plain and simple.
New sites are on their way, original sites! Dealing with info you've
never seen before. When they arrive, they will be imitated far and wide,
and yet no one will be able to match them. If someone does, I'll take my
site down, there's no point in having sub-par sites online, it only
creates confusion.
Instead of trying to get all of the tabs on Sad Machines for your own
site, I have a better solution...put a *link* to Sad Machines on your
site. Sad Machines exists as a resource where people can get bass tabs,
we don't need two sites. That wastes bandwidth and server space and
confuses people.
Can't you come up with *one* original thought for your own web site?
One thing that hasn't been done before? If you can't, then you shouldn't
be making a web site, you should be visiting the ones that exist.
However, there are areas that are as yet untouched. Brainstorm, maybe
you'll think of something. If you do, and it's completely original,
accurate, and appealing I'll link to it from starla.org and 10,000 people
each day will see the link.
Moonkids
no other site on the web huh? i guess ill have to take your word for it,
since i havent gone to every site on the web.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489E125...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> uhhh, do i have to go into why i dont have a scanner? ok, ill save u the
"i
>> dont have enough money" story.
>
>What does a scanner have to do with anything? I let you use an image from
my
>site, and image that no other site on the web has ever had, and then you
bitch
>about my site to the newsgroup. See, we're talking "pride", not "scanner".
Moonkids
well i did explain why starla is shit didnt i? or do i have to state more
examples?
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489E282...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> im justing offering criticism thats all, to each their own, oh, and dont
>
>"Other people agree with me," and "shit" can hardly be termed "criticism".
Moonkids
it , was just a stupid joke, lighten, up
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489E1FB...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> im justing offering criticism thats all, to each their own, oh, and dont
>> worry about me flaming you...you see mama said i should never make fun of
>> the mentally challenged.
>
>"im justing offering criticism thats all..."
>
>"i should never make fun of the mentally challenged"
>
>Uh-huh.
Moonkids
actually im building a songography that is way more comprehensive than
burlap. so it will be better than burlap. and im building other stuff also,
that starla.org doesnt have, im not saying that my new site will have as
much info as starla.org, it wont, because i only have 12-18megs of server
space available to me. well, i already stated about the original ideas i had
in an earlier post. the pumpkin crossword puzzle i had? i didnt see that
anywhere else. the poster gallery? i didnt see that anywhere else.
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Joshua Provost wrote in message ...
Moonkids
look, i asked u for the right to use that poster. i didnt say burlap was all
bad, i should have been more specific. ok, for the record, i just think
burlap has a lot of shortcomings, and i think that starla.org aint all its
advertised to be.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EA04...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> no other site on the web huh? i guess ill have to take your word for it,
>> since i havent gone to every site on the web.
>
large
>amount of money on that limited edition poster, I scanned it, and Burlap
was
>the only site that had it. Really, I wouldn't mind if you called my site
shit,
>because everyone's entitled to their opinion, but to take material from my
>site, then slam it in amsp is pretty sad. If I'm the maintained of a shit
site
>you took content from, what does that make you?
Moonkids
well i just posted that burlap has short comings, and i will fill in those
short comings when my songography is completed.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EA51...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> well i did explain why starla is shit didnt i? or do i have to state more
>> examples?
>
>No, you said Dave Silverman was an asshole and you said you thought the
message
>on starla.org was cocky. Those aren't two reasons for disliking it as a
whole.
>And you still haven't explained why PPRN or Burlap is shit. But it's OK,
I'm
>not expecting you to. You obviously have memory problems.
Moonkids
ok, well, i think i have explained my initial comment. i dunno, maybe ur not
following the thread totally
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EAE0...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> it , was just a stupid joke, lighten, up
>
>Why should I lighten up? Why should I let you away with calling someone
mentally
>challenged when you're barely semi-literate yourself? I came into this
thread
>with an open mind and a genuine interest in any constructive comments you
had
>about starla.org - imagine my disappointment to find out you have no
>constructive comments and also happen to be an ignorant asshole.
Moonkids
ok good point. ok, the song list for my songography came from 5 main
sources...
-the bmi index
-aeroplanes booklet
-your site
- and about 5 other sites
- this newsgroup
i will give u credit on my site, dont worry. and i made a point of going to
other sources for information, and not just stealing from burlap.
the lyrics come from dozens of sites, albums, and the aeroplanes booklet, i
still have the lyrics page from the moonkids site.
now, all other information i have obtained elsewhere.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EBC4...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> actually im building a songography that is way more comprehensive than
>> burlap. so it will be better than burlap. and im building other stuff
also,
>> that starla.org doesnt have, im not saying that my new site will have as
>
>I'll be interested in seeing it. But I guess since Burlap's shit you won't
be
>using any of my info for your site, right?
>
>> much info as starla.org, it wont, because i only have 12-18megs of server
>> space available to me. well, i already stated about the original ideas i
had
>
>Only 12- 18 megs? Cry me a river.
>
>> in an earlier post. the pumpkin crossword puzzle i had? i didnt see that
>> anywhere else. the poster gallery? i didnt see that anywhere else.
>
>No, neither did I. Well done.
Moonkids
when did i say starla.org aint a monopoly?
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489ED00...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> ok, well, i think i have explained my initial comment. i dunno, maybe ur
not
>> following the thread totally
>
>I'm following the thread just fine ("but then again - I'm a reader"). I
just
>find it odd that your arguments have changed during the course of this
thread:
>
>Argument one - starla.org is a monoply!
>Argument two - ok, so it's not a monopoly!
>Argument three - me and my friend think Dave Silverman's an asshole!
>Argument four - PPRN's shit! Burlap's shit!
>Argument five - starla.org is too cocky!
>Argument six - Burlap's not shit, it just has it's shortcomings!
>
>All in the space of what, 2 hours? Don't you get tired?
Moonkids
if u wanna know why im whining, please refer to message 1
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EC45...@idirect.com>...
>
>
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> look, i asked u for the right to use that poster. i didnt say burlap was
all
>
>Yes, you asked - what difference does that make?
>
>> bad, i should have been more specific. ok, for the record, i just think
>> burlap has a lot of shortcomings, and i think that starla.org aint all
its
>> advertised to be.
>
>Of course it has a lot of shortcomings. All sites do. And OK, you don't
like
>starla.org - why whine?
Moonkids
excuse me? did i say i disliked starla as a whole?? no i didnt, but thats ok
you obviously have memory problems :)
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Moonkids wrote in message <3489e...@nemo.idirect.com>...
>well i just posted that burlap has short comings, and i will fill in those
>short comings when my songography is completed.
>
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>SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EA51...@idirect.com>...
>>Moonkids wrote:
>>
>>> well i did explain why starla is shit didnt i? or do i have to state
more
>>> examples?
>>
>>No, you said Dave Silverman was an asshole and you said you thought the
>message
>>on starla.org was cocky. Those aren't two reasons for disliking it as a
>whole.
>>And you still haven't explained why PPRN or Burlap is shit. But it's OK,
>I'm
>>not expecting you to. You obviously have memory problems.
>>
ruby mae
Moonkids wrote:
> well i did explain why starla is shit didnt i? or do i have to state more
> examples?
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Moonkids
well i think youre wrong there, i recognize starla has a monopoly, but i
dont hate everything about it.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EF83...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> excuse me? did i say i disliked starla as a whole?? no i didnt, but thats
ok
>> you obviously have memory problems :)
>
>You said that starla.org is a monopoly, implying you don't like it.
Joshua Provost
Moonkids <moon...@idirect.ca> says...
> ok good point. ok, the song list for my songography came from 5 main
> sources...
> -the bmi index
> -aeroplanes booklet
> -your site
> - and about 5 other sites
> - this newsgroup
..and every scrap of information you dig up will already exist on Burlap,
because the research has already been done, long ago, and continues to be
done. If you have something new, out with it! What new info have you
uncovered? The public wants to know!
Moonkids
well jeana, if u were following, u would have noticed that im not jealous of
starla.org. and no jeana, i dont seek excess recogntion, or a spotlight for
my site. and i realize that i cant offer everything that starla has, and im
not bitter about it.
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Smiley Iha wrote in message
<19971207003...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>see the thing about this person is that they are jealous that their site
can't
>be in the spotlight. It's really quite sad because when in reality.. in 5,
10
>years from now.. all of our sites..* will * bite the dust. I mean god, who
>cares.. a site is made because you want to tribute the band in some way..
it's
>not to overpower another site.. like this guy seems to think starla is
doing.
>You should make a site because you want to bring something to the online
>world.. and not because you want to make other sites look bad.. which
starla is
>in no way doing. Starla is a resource for pumpkins fans, to look up online
>sources like tabs, online files, etc etc etc. If you want to make a site
like
>that.. good go for it.. but there is NO reason to act bitter, just because
your
>site can't bring what starla has given us.
>
>- Jeana
>Angels Flew | http://volker.resnet.mtu.edu/iha/
>stressed out? me.. no way!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
0rlando
Moonkids wrote:
>
> well im not jealous, u people sure like putting words in other people's
> mouths huh? i think half of the stuff on starla.org is shit, like burlap for
> example, thats shit. and the pro ne nata, thats shit too, so much for being
> "the best"
I think that Burlap is the most important page in Starla.org if it wasnt
for Burlap, where would we find the lyrics to "my dahlia" or any of the
other '89 demos and rareities? I'm very sure that it didn't take Simon
5min to find the lyrics to *every* known sp song, he had to work very
hard, and for what? So that every pumpkin fan would now what sp songs
are out there and where to find it. I for one appreciate Simon's work.
Every time I go to Burlap i learn a little bit more about sp. so, keep
up the good work Simon!
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Moonkids
i know the fucking meaning of the word. i feel both.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <3489F683...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> well i think youre wrong there, i recognize starla has a monopoly, but i
>> dont hate everything about it.
>
>Christ, do I have to go through this for a third time? Either you don't
know the
>meaning of the word monopoly or you're utterly dense - which is it?
Moonkids
doesnt starla.org claim to have the best pumpkin sites on the net?
therefore, you are claiming u have a monopoly. the monopoly being exclusive
control over the best sp sites on the net....be a bitch and take it in the
ass :)
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A0001...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> i know the fucking meaning of the word. i feel both.
>
>No you don't. You're saying starla.org has a monopoly...
>
>monopoly:
>exclusive possession or control of the trade in commodity or service.
>- The Oxford Dictionary of Current English
>
>Starla.org does not have exclusive possession or control of the online SP
>community. You're wrong. Take it like a man, instead of a mewling little
>cabbage.
Moonkids
ok, well u didnt explain why starla.org advertises itself as a monopoly. do
u not agree that starla.org markets itself as the best sp site on the net?
if u need proof, read the message on the homepage.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A0502...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> doesnt starla.org claim to have the best pumpkin sites on the net?
>> therefore, you are claiming u have a monopoly. the monopoly being
exclusive
>> control over the best sp sites on the net....be a bitch and take it in
the
>> ass :)
>
>What kind of fucked-up logic are you using? Umm... OK. I am the best
gymnast in
>the world. There. Do I now have exclusive control over the world of
gymnastics?
>You're an absolute, fucking moron. You're an imbecile. You can't even
think,
>let alone draft a post properly. Where the fuck did you go to to school?
>
>And no, I'm not that little dog you like to victimize because you can't get
any
>women. Stop including me in your delusions.
Moonkids
and...
starla.org does claim to have exclusive control over the best sp info on the
net, the intro message on starla.org says so. now dont think the my logic,
as u so cutely put is "i am the best gymnast in the world". that is not my
logic, that is the logic of whomever wrote that intro message. so i ask you
simon coyle, can u please tell me what school that person went to and what
kind of fucked up logic are they using.
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Moonkids wrote in message <348a0...@nemo.idirect.com>...
Moonkids
point 1- starla states that it has the best sp sites on the web
point 2- by stating that it has the best sites on the web, starla.org claims
it is above other sp sites.
point 3- since starla.org claims it is above other sp sites, one must assume
that starla.org claims to have a monopoly over the best smashing pumpkins
content, which is insinuating that starla.org controls the best sp content
on the web.
is all of this true simon?
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A0943...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> ok, well u didnt explain why starla.org advertises itself as a monopoly.
do
>> u not agree that starla.org markets itself as the best sp site on the
net?
>> if u need proof, read the message on the homepage.
>
>Yeah, and Snapple says it's made from the Best Stuff on Earth. Does it
therefore
>have a monopoly on ice tea?
>
>Sure, starla.org says it's the best collection of web pages on the
internet.
>That's not the same as having a monopoly on them. If starla.org had a
monopoly,
>it'd be forcing other sites off the web - it isn't. If starla.org had a
>monopoly, it would stop other sites from being created - it isn't. If
starla.org
>had a monopoly, it would be stifling the creativity of other web sites - it
>isn't. If starla.org had a monopoly, it would be using it's clout as
influence
>in various matters - it isn't. If starla.org had a monopoly, you would have
>virtually no other choice of website to visit - there are over 300 other SP
>websites. starla.org doesn't have a monopoly. starla.org is free.
starla.org
>does not force anything on you. starla.org is a collection of fans (much
like
>yourself, only infinitely more intelligent) dedicated to helping online SP
fans
>learn. Every advertisement says that they're product is best - do they all
have
>monopolies? Are you being this dense on purpose? Are you really this dumb?
Are
>you in some kind of special class at school? Do you have learning
difficulties?
>Do you have any friends? Are you anything more than a two-dimensional,
ignorant,
>whining little boil on the ass of alt.music.smash-pumpkins? Do you have
anything
>to contribute apart from complaints and unbelievably shitty logic? Why
don't you
>just fuck off? Do you get it? Do you finally understand? Read a fucking
book,
>you mind-numbingly repellant little turd. Education - heard of it? You know
what
>the word "monopoly" means? You do? Then how come you demonstrate absolutely
no
>ability in being able use it? Asshole. Feel the hate, scumfuck.
Moonkids
thats not my fucking logic u third world education motherfucker, as i stated
before, thats the baboon logic of the gorrilla ass kissing motherfucker who
wrote that on your 8 bit website.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A0A35...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> and...
>> starla.org does claim to have exclusive control over the best sp info on
the
>> net, the intro message on starla.org says so. now dont think the my
logic,
>> as u so cutely put is "i am the best gymnast in the world". that is not
my
>> logic, that is the logic of whomever wrote that intro message. so i ask
you
>> simon coyle, can u please tell me what school that person went to and
what
>> kind of fucked up logic are they using.
>
>I'm kind tired after the last message, so this will be the last post I'm
gonna
>waste on your useless carcass:
>
>You said:
>starla.org says it has the best web sites, therefore it says it has
exclusive
>control over SP sites.
>
>I said:
>I say I'm the best gymnast, therefore I have exclusive control over the
world of
>gymnastics.
>
>See, I'm using the same logic as you, as anyone but the most brain-dead
baboon
>can see. You can't see that.
>
>And the s.o. message says:
>
>
> Welcome to a cluster of
the
>best Smashing
> Pumpkins web sites
available,
>starla.org. The
> new starla.org
incorporates
>the latest news and
> info into the front page
and
>adds links to other
> celestial sites and
resources.
>Plot starla.org as
> your default home page
and
>never miss the
> latest in the SP
universe.
>
>Yep, says it's the best collection. Means nothing. The fact that starla.org
>*doesn't* have exclusive control over SP sites, shows that it isn't a
monopoly.
>See ya.
>
>Simon
Moonkids
i didnt say control over other sites did i? no i didnt, i said that
starla.org claims to have a monopoly over the best sp content on the web,
there is a difference. since the internet, is the form of medium which
starla.org is delivered on, and since starla.org claims to have the best
smashing pumpkins content in that form of medium, one must assume that
starla.org is insinuating that it controls the best sp content on the
internet.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A0FD8...@idirect.com>...
>Note: I know I said I wouldn't reply to this thread again, but I can't let
this
>go.
>
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> point 1- starla states that it has the best sp sites on the web
>
>Yes...
>
>> point 2- by stating that it has the best sites on the web, starla.org
claims
>> it is above other sp sites.
>
>Yes...
>
>> point 3- since starla.org claims it is above other sp sites, one must
assume
>> that starla.org claims to have a monopoly over the best smashing pumpkins
>> content, which is insinuating that starla.org controls the best sp
content
>> on the web.
>
>Uh... no. Flawed logic. 3 doesn't follow on from 2. Since s.o. claims it's
above
>other sites, it's insinuating nothing apart from the fact that it's above
other
>sites. How does saying you're best insinuate control over other sites?
>
>How can you assume that? (Never assume by the way. It makes an ass out of
you
>and me).
>
>When Nike tells you they make the best shoes, do you think they have a
monopoly
>on the sporting shoe market?
>
>How can starla control the best SP content on the web? What if Eric Agnew
>decides to create the be-all-end-all of SP sites? You think starla can stop
him?
>If it can't (which it can't)... how does it have a monopoly?
>
>starla.org could have a huge fucking banner on the main page saying
"STARLA.ORG!
>WE HAVE A MONOPOLY ON THE BEST SP SITES!"
>
>That doesn't mean it actually *does* have a monopoly.
>
>Every one of your arguments is utterly invalid anyway - starla.org doesn't
have
>a monopoly, regardless of what it insinuates.. I've already explained why.
>
>Tell you what, see if you can follow this logic:
>
>point one: I say I'm the world's greatest gymnast.
>
>point two: by stating I am the world's greatest gymnast, I am saying I am
above
>all other gymasts.
>
>point three: by saying I am above all otehr gymasts, I'm insinuating I have
a
>monopoly on gymnastics. Meaning, basically, that I control everything to do
with
>gymnastics.
>
>Do you understand? How does saying I'm the best automatically mean I have
>control over everything? You're being a moron. Again.
>
>Exactly what you said - only I hope this makes it easier for you to see the
>gaping whole in your argument.
>
>This is gonna be a looooong night...
0rlando
It IS the best place for anyone to find info on sp, and it's just a
click away.
this should be the new message on the homepage..."Welcome to Starla.org,
where all you ever wanted to know about The Smashing Pumpkins is just
one click away!"
Moonkids
from the first message "...and has created somewhat of a monopoly in regards
to sp sites." how does that mean starla has control over other sp sites? it
only means that when talking about sp sites, starla.org has a monopoly.
for fuck sakes, i didnt say starla.org controls other sites, i said that it
insinuates to have exclusive control of the best sp sites.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A14F5...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> i didnt say control over other sites did i? no i didnt, i said that
>
>Yes you did. Your first message:
>
>-------
>
>i just want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla
is
>like this
>800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in regards to sp
>sites.
>
>------
>
>"and has created somewhat of a monopoly in regards to sp sites".
>
>See? You didn't say "starla.org is insinuating it has a monopoly". You
said,
>"starla.org ... has created somewhat of a monopoly."
>
>And as I said earlier, to have a monopoly, means to have control over a
certain
>thing. Starla.org doesn't have control over other SP sites, their design or
>their content, therefore it is not a monopoly. It really is that simple.
Kind of
>like you.
>
>> starla.org claims to have a monopoly over the best sp content on the web,
>
>No it doesn't. It claims to have the best sites. That's not the same as
have a
>monopoly. This is shooting fish a barrel. Actually, I'm getting a kind of
>perverse pleasure from this.
>
>> there is a difference. since the internet, is the form of medium which
>> starla.org is delivered on, and since starla.org claims to have the best
>> smashing pumpkins content in that form of medium, one must assume that
>> starla.org is insinuating that it controls the best sp content on the
>> internet.
>
>So what you're saying is:
>
>"starla.org has the best sites"
>
>is the same as
>
>"starla.org controls other websites"
>
>Duh.
>starla.org doesn't control other sites - how can it? In fact, if you want
the
>bring up the medium argument, there is even LESS chance that starla could
have a
>monopoly on the internet, since anyone can put anything they want on the
>internet and starla is powerless to stop them.
>
>Not that starla would want to stop them. Like I said, regardless of whether
or
>not starla insinuates it has a monopoly, it doesn't. Damn, you're thick.
0rlando
Moonkids wrote:
>
> point 3- since starla.org claims it is above other sp sites, one must assume> content, which is insinuating that starla.org controls the best sp content
> on the web.
>
Are you stupit? That doesn't make any sense. Starla.org IS the best
place to look for pumpkin info. Read the message in the homepage idiot!
"The new starla.org incorporates the latest news and info into the front
page and adds links to other celestial sites and resources." do you
undersatnd "other celestial sites and resources"? They are not saying
the member sites are the best. Thay are saying that all the sites in the
front page are the best of it's kind. For example theres..
songlist/lyrics - Burlap.. News/info - pprn, nikki's news stand.. Tour -
The Smashing Pumpkins MCIS Tour, Smashing Pumpkins Tour History, both
which are non-members sites that starla.org has no "control" of,
therefor the is NO monopoly. BTW, the songonoly, whatever shit your
doing is already done. It can be found anytime at Starla.org. Now get
lost, you pervert, garth brooks, fuckhead.
0rlando
Moonkids wrote:
>
> i didnt say control over other sites did i? no i didnt, i said that
yes, you did.
Moonkids
by the best sites, i was referring to what the message on starla.org says. i
AM NOT reffering to any sites that are in no way associated with starla.org.
once again simon, (maybe this time you'll understand)...i am refering to the
message on starla.org which states that it has the best sp sites on the
internet, got it? (probably not)
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A17FF...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> from the first message "...and has created somewhat of a monopoly in
regards
>> to sp sites." how does that mean starla has control over other sp sites?
it
>> only means that when talking about sp sites, starla.org has a monopoly.
>>
>> for fuck sakes, i didnt say starla.org controls other sites, i said that
it
>> insinuates to have exclusive control of the best sp sites.
>
>You said s.o. had created a monopoly of the best sites.
>And it doesn't matter what starla.org insinuates.
>Does it have control of the Tour History, Nikki's Newsstand, MCIS Tour,
Luna,
>Chris Carman's page?
>
>No, it doesn't. Therefore, it doesn't have a monopoly, as you claimed it
did in
>your first message.
>
>Regardless of how you twist your arguments, you're still wrong.
>
>
0rlando
Ross Robbins wrote:
>
> I'm curious as to why this 10,000 post war couldn't have been taken to
> private e-mail... answers???
>
> Ross
Because that Moonkids guy is too dumb to learn how to email.
Moonkids
ill be afk 4awhile simon, so dont bother staring at the screen for my next
message.
Moonkids
simon, i have an original idea for a site, and i would like it too be added
to starla.org site. ill give u more details if youre interested.
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SC Coyle wrote in message <348A2087...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> by the best sites, i was referring to what the message on starla.org
says. i
>> AM NOT reffering to any sites that are in no way associated with
starla.org.
>> once again simon, (maybe this time you'll understand)...i am refering to
the
>> message on starla.org which states that it has the best sp sites on the
>> internet, got it? (probably not)
>
>Right, that's it. God damn, what the fuck is wrong with you? Do you ever
read
>you messages after you write them? All along you've been saying "the
message on
>starla.org insinuates it has a monopoly on the best SP sites."
>
>I showed this to be untrue.
>
>Now, I don't even know what the fuck you're saying... that starla.org has a
>monopoly on the starla.org member sites? If that's what you're saying -
you're
>wrong again. There's nothing to stop me, or any other starla.org member,
taking
>their site to another server.
>
>If you're saying starla.org has a monopoly on the best SP on the net, it
>doesn't, as I've already demonstrated.
>
>If you're saying starla.org has a monopoly on all the SP sites, you're
wrong, as
>I've already demonstrated.
>
>If you're saying that the message on starla.org insinuates it has a
monopoly,
>it's not - all it says is starla.org has the best sites, which is in no way
a
>monopoly.
>
>Have I covered everything?
ruby mae
Ankh Raid wrote:
> Let's all just stop this and play a nice game of Monopoly everyone...
> alright?
>
> Uncle Raidy
i second that motion, uncle raidy!
<sticks tongue out at moonkids>
i wanna be the horse!!
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Mark Andrew Hamilton
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Moonkids wrote:
> ok, point taken. back when i was running my sp site, i tried gathering tabs,
> ok, so where do i go for tabs? sadmachines of course, but the guy who runs
> it (dave silverman i think) doesnt let anyone use his tabulature for their
> sites. and i talked with a few other people about this, one person , being a
> guy named cory who runs a sp site, and he agreed that dave silverman was an
> asshole for doing that. i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org has,
And what, pray tell, is the problem with simply adding a link for "bass
tabs at this site" on your page?
Quick example: Say you spend a couple of hours creating an awesome
Pumpkins image for your page. You then proudly upload this image to your
page, and place an ad here on the newsgroup to let everyone know about
your page and how proud you are of your work. The next morning, you wake
up, turn on your computer and come to the newsgroup. 50 other posts are
advertising "Cool New Pumpkins Site!", and so you click on a couple of
links. Every site that comes up starts with your exact same image, and
includes the same information in the same format as yours.
Now, with that scenario in mind, tell me who the assholes are?
> i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
> available, starla.org. "
> like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
> starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites just
> dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
>
Take a minute to notice that at least half of the sites linked to at the
starla.org main-page aren't even hosted on the starla.org server. So, in
which way is starla.org "stating that starla.org is superior to all other
sp sites"? It's bloody linked to other pages *outside* of the domain...
Heck, I could take 20 minutes to put together a link page, slap the label
of "best pages out there" on it, and then would I be "cocky" as well? If
www.geocities.com advertises an excellent page on their server, are they
calling all other pages invalid wastes of time? No.
If starla.org is so important to you, maybe you should take the time to
put together an original page that has enough original content and based
on your own ideas, and get yourself a spot on the server. Until you try,
I urge you to follow a little rule that I've followed (well, tried to, at
least) throughout my life, as taught to me at a young age by my Mother:
If you can't say anything nice, then get the fuck out of the kitchen.
np: blur - get out of cities
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Joshua Provost
Simon Coyle <apa...@idirect.com> says...
> Moonkids wrote:
>
> > simon, i have an original idea for a site, and i would like it too be added
> > to starla.org site. ill give u more details if youre interested.
>
And tell me Moonkids did! Let's make this a fun public exercise. For
the record, Moonkids promised to have a test site online Monday. When it
goes up, we'll all evaluate it, eh?
Will it...
...consist of completely original content, not presented on any other
site?
...consist of completely accurate and confirmed content?
...be presented in a logical and coherant manner?
...be asthetically appealing?
I have serious doubts that it will meet even one of the above criteria,
but we'll *all* see on Monday.
I'll try not to hold the fact that he called my closest friends
'assholes' and 'motherfuckers'.
As a side note, Simon Coyle is a superb gymnast! You should see him in
his tights...stunning!
Mark Andrew Hamilton
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Moonkids wrote:
> well i did explain why starla is shit didnt i? or do i have to state more
> examples?
>
No, actually you didn't.
Some reasons, backed up by proof of *your* hard work and perseverance
would be necessary for anyone to take you seriously.
Who the hell are you anyways? This is the first time I've seen any posts
from "Moonkids", and you start right in on starla.org? Gimmie a break.
np: david bowie - john, i'm only dancing (unreleased mix)
Mark Andrew Hamilton
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, SC Coyle wrote:
> Moonkids wrote:
>
> > actually im building a songography that is way more comprehensive than
> > burlap. so it will be better than burlap. and im building other stuff also,
> > that starla.org doesnt have, im not saying that my new site will have as
>
> I'll be interested in seeing it. But I guess since Burlap's shit you won't be
> using any of my info for your site, right?
>
hee hee hee...! Simon, what was that last page called that tried a l'il
Burlap swipe? Infinite Zero or something...? He sure put you outta
business didn't he... ;-)
np: david bowie - velvet goldmine
Smiley Iha
>im justing offering criticism thats all, to each their own, oh, and dont
>worry about me flaming you...you see mama said i should never make fun of
>the mentally challenged.
well of course dumbfuck..she would never want to make fun of her own flesh and
blood. Get a life.
Smiley Iha
see the thing about this person is that they are jealous that their site can't
be in the spotlight. It's really quite sad because when in reality.. in 5, 10
years from now.. all of our sites..* will * bite the dust. I mean god, who
cares.. a site is made because you want to tribute the band in some way.. it's
not to overpower another site.. like this guy seems to think starla is doing.
You should make a site because you want to bring something to the online
world.. and not because you want to make other sites look bad.. which starla is
in no way doing. Starla is a resource for pumpkins fans, to look up online
sources like tabs, online files, etc etc etc. If you want to make a site like
that.. good go for it.. but there is NO reason to act bitter, just because your
site can't bring what starla has given us.
- Jeana
Jason Briggeman
In article <3489e...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca> wrote:
>actually im building a songography that is way more comprehensive than
>burlap. so it will be better than burlap. and im building other stuff also,
>that starla.org doesnt have, im not saying that my new site will have as
>space available to me. well, i already stated about the original ideas i had
>in an earlier post. the pumpkin crossword puzzle i had? i didnt see that
>anywhere else. the poster gallery? i didnt see that anywhere else.
So, if your ideas are so great, why don't you make your site and kick
starla.org's ass in traffic? People go there because it rules, not because
someone's making them. And, for shit's sake, nobody's making any money off of
this, so we're not really even competing. You get starla.org for free, to
use, not to use, whatever. What's the damn problem?
Plus, I'm an econ major, so I can tell you this: economically, there's nothing
wrong with a naturally arising, non-coercive (i.e. not government enforced)
monopoly. Such a monopoly can only maintain its market position with a
near-heroic commitment to keeping costs low and catering to the needs of the
marketplace. In both Microsoft and starla.org's situations, such is the
case -- non-coercive, (and thus) cheap, and satisfying to the customer.
--
Jason Briggeman
sl...@nwu.edu
Smiley Iha
>well jeana, if u were following, u would have noticed that im not jealous of
>starla.org. and no jeana, i dont seek excess recogntion, or a spotlight for
>my site. and i realize that i cant offer everything that starla has, and im
>not bitter about it.
ahh.. I seee. Well I took the time and went to your site. After only looking at
some of the most sexist and preverted images you have on your page, it's no
wonder you act this way. I gave your page a chance.. but you must be one of the
most perverted people alive. From what I've seen.. I'm understand why you think
the way you do.
Smiley Iha
>thats not my fucking logic u third world education motherfucker, as i stated
>before, thats the baboon logic of the gorrilla ass kissing motherfucker who
>wrote that on your 8 bit website.
I hate people who use words like "fucker" or "ass" after every other word.. did
someone fluck their hooked on phonics program??
Ankh Raid
[snip from all the argument]
Ross Robbins
Shoegaze99
"Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca> writes:
<snip>
Does it matter? Blah blah blah, just shut the hell up already. You whine more
than TheWretch does. Dig yourself a deep hole, leap into it, and have somebody
build a latrine on top of it, because that is all the treatment you deserve.
FNORDFNORDFNORDFNORDFNORDFNORDFNORD
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I hope Smashing Pumpkins come out with a new album much, much, MUCH sooner than
their expected date.....this is getting pathetic.......
Shoegaze99
inri
What's wrong with a monopoly?
one stop shopping is good for me.
Henry Bent wrote in message <3488F699...@onr.com>...
>> In article <34889...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids"
<moon...@idirect.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >this may be a terrible thing to say, but i cant stand it no more. i just
=
>> >want to say that starla.org reminds me of microsoft, because starla is =
>> >like this 800 pound gorrila, and has created somewhat of a monopoly in =
>> >regards to sp sites.
>
>Um, just to point out here, Starla.org is not jamming SP content down
>your throat, like a certain major software company. It is merely there
>for you to take from. If you would like to not get your info from
>there, go ahead. You can get all you would ever need without going to
>starla.org. But what's the point?
>
>I think people just like to complain about big monopolies because
>they're too lazy to actually do anything about it.
>
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IH8Ualot1
ok...
Having a web page on Starla.Org is the best advertisement for an SP site you
can get. People will visit your site and if you are on Starla.Org it means
your page is good. If Starla.Org was buying peoples web page and JP was worth
36.6 billion and the only SP sites you could visit were on Starla.Org, yes it
would be a damn monopoly.
Why don't you two exchange phone numbers or something. Or why don't you
boycott the fucking page then.
>and...
>starla.org does claim to have exclusive control over the best sp info on the
>net, the intro message on starla.org says so. now dont think the my logic,
>as u so cutely put is "i am the best gymnast in the world". that is not my
>logic, that is the logic of whomever wrote that intro message. so i ask you
>simon coyle, can u please tell me what school that person went to and what
>kind of fucked up logic are they using.
>--
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>
>Moonkids wrote in message <348a0...@nemo.idirect.com>...
>>ok, well u didnt explain why starla.org advertises itself as a monopoly. do
>>u not agree that starla.org markets itself as the best sp site on the net?
>>if u need proof, read the message on the homepage.
>>
>>--
>>"...arent u a tenacious little monkey" cosmo kramer
>>"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
>>moon...@idirect.com
>>
>>SC Coyle wrote in message <348A0502...@idirect.com>...
>>>Moonkids wrote:
>>>
>>>> doesnt starla.org claim to have the best pumpkin sites on the net?
>>>> therefore, you are claiming u have a monopoly. the monopoly being
>>exclusive
>>>> control over the best sp sites on the net....be a bitch and take it in
>>the
>>>> ass :)
>>>
>>>What kind of fucked-up logic are you using? Umm... OK. I am the best
>>gymnast in
>>>the world. There. Do I now have exclusive control over the world of
>>gymnastics?
>>>You're an absolute, fucking moron. You're an imbecile. You can't even
>>think,
>>>let alone draft a post properly. Where the fuck did you go to to school?
>>>
>>>And no, I'm not that little dog you like to victimize because you can't
>get
>>any
>>>women. Stop including me in your delusions.
Smiley Iha
>Or why don't you
>boycott the fucking page then.
nah.. cause then he would have no place to go to get info for his "original"
site.. ain't that right?
- Jeana
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Joshua Hoffman
Moonkids wrote:
> well i just posted that burlap has short comings, and i will fill in those
> short comings when my songography is completed.
Sure you will. Simon has only been collecting and researching that info for
YEARS. That man has put more creativity and work into that site than Einstein
put into the theory of realitivity. He's talked to people, listened to songs,
researched the facts, followed leads and took criticisms to heart and tracked
down even the minutest of detail if it meant improving his site. He's got stuff
you can't even imagine. So if you think you can waltz right in and take over
the mountain that Simon's already claimed I got a little piece of advise for you
kid: It's a hell of a long way to the top.
Josh
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> qua...@idirect.com
> SC Coyle wrote in message <3489EA51...@idirect.com>...
> >Moonkids wrote:
> >
> >> well i did explain why starla is shit didnt i? or do i have to state more
> >> examples?
> >
> >No, you said Dave Silverman was an asshole and you said you thought the
> message
> >on starla.org was cocky. Those aren't two reasons for disliking it as a
> whole.
> >And you still haven't explained why PPRN or Burlap is shit. But it's OK,
> I'm
> >not expecting you to. You obviously have memory problems.
> >
> >Simon
> >--
> >The Burlap Pumpkin Page
> >http://www.starla.org/burlap/
> >
> >
> >
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On Sat, 06 Dec 1997 15:17:48 -0500, SC Coyle <apa...@idirect.com>
handed us the following:
>So where is the problem? Is starla.org too big? Does it have too much
>information? Was there too much effort put into the creation of it? Do you just
>not like having vast quantities of information on your favourite band at your
>fingertips for no charge whatsoever? Do you resent the fact that Joshua put a
>lot of time and money into creating starla.org?
>
>This may sound like sarcasm, but it really isn't. I am genuinely interested in
>hearing what possible problem someone could have with starla.org. So go ahead
>and tell me, but don't just say "I think it's a monopoly and a lot of people
>I've talked to do as well." That really doesn't give much information.
>
see! see!
i laugh my ass off! there's no jokes, he's just so completely *right!*
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On Sat, 6 Dec 1997 17:36:32 -0500, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca>
handed us the following:
> i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org has,
>i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
>available, starla.org. "
>like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
>starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites just
>dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
name one site NOT listed on starla.org that competes. honestly. that
list of sites are the best. the site says so. it's right. you have a
complete history of all known live performances, a complete songlist
with all the unattainables, a picture archive, new date rumours, the
complete discography, complete bass *And* guitar archives, hundreds of
articles about the band, and soon enough - 800 or so near-cd quality
sound files and a thorough listing, scan, and review of every single
sp boot cd *ever* released.
what's missing, here? ...mO0nKidZ' zAnY sP sIt3?
dont' be so vindictive. those sites deserve to be mentioned as the
best, because they *are* the best. unimaginable amounts of effort were
invested into them. it's real easy to sit there and bitch about how it
"should" be. you'll get no congratulations for that.
John Mulhausen
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:48:51 -0500, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca>
handed us the following:
>by the best sites, i was referring to what the message on starla.org says. i
>AM NOT reffering to any sites that are in no way associated with starla.org.
>once again simon, (maybe this time you'll understand)...i am refering to the
>message on starla.org which states that it has the best sp sites on the
>internet, got it? (probably not)
>
<3 men come from the shadows, and tackle Moonkids. one holds his legs
down, one his arms. the other injects a potent tranquilizer into his
bloodstream. he kicks a few last times, and drifts to sleep.
at this point, the men notice his sloped, ape-like forehead and excess
fur....
"oh...my....god...">
Dave Asselin
Moonkids - moon...@idirect.ca said...
>
>and...
>starla.org does claim to have exclusive control over the best sp
>info on the net, the intro message on starla.org says so. now dont
>think the my logic, as u so cutely put is "i am the best gymnast in
>the world". that is not my logic, that is the logic of whomever wrote
>that intro message. so i ask you simon coyle, can u please tell me what
>school that person went to and what kind of fucked up logic are they
>using.
What school did you go to and what kind of fucked up logic are you
using?
Look, why can't you get past this "exclusive control" bit? It doesn't
exist.
Let me give you an example. There is a diner up the street from me
called Mul's. Right on the same sign as their name is the blurb "Best
Coffee In Town!". Muls has been in business for almost 40 years.
Less than a block away heading north is a Dunkin' Donuts. It's been
there about 5 years. a little more than 2 blocks away is a brand new
coffee shop called "Ward 6".
Mul's has been claiming for 40 years that they have the best coffee
in town, and at least 2 people disagreed with them. But those people
didn't whine to the owner of Mul's... they opened their own goddamn
coffee shop. It's not like Mul's could stop them...
For the record, I get my morning coffee at Dunkin' Donuts. Muls does
make a mean omlette, but their coffee sucks.
- Dave
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Moonkids
shit jeana, why the fuck do u think i rip all my info from other peeps
sites? ohh, is it because i asked for permission to use a concert posters
from simon? shut up u cumguzzler, if u would have read the posts, u would
have realizeed that i have done lots of original stuff, and i am continuing
to do more original pumpkins work. :)
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moon...@idirect.ca
"once had a love and it was a gas" blondie
Smiley Iha wrote in message
<19971207074...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
Moonkids
yeh, im not bullshiting u joshua. it does consist of original, accurate
content. i havent seen something like this anywhere. and the way it is
presented is very logically, and coherently. ok, ill have a sample page
ready for monday night.
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"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
moon...@idirect.ca
"once had a love and it was a gas" blondie
Joshua Provost wrote in message ...
DOO THA DO
STARLA IS A SKANKY WHORE ...THANK YOU
C'MON GUYS LETS SKANK!!!!
SMASHING PUMPKINS ARE THE BEST PUNK ROCK BAND
Moonkids
i dont really get that, my first sp site was pretty popular, and was liked
by everyone who went there, and it was quality work.
--
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"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
moon...@idirect.ca
"once had a love and it was a gas" blondie
SC Coyle wrote in message <348AD374...@idirect.com>...
>Moonkids wrote:
>
>> yeh, im not bullshiting u joshua. it does consist of original, accurate
>> content. i havent seen something like this anywhere. and the way it is
>> presented is very logically, and coherently. ok, ill have a sample page
>> ready for monday night.
>
>Since you can't even write conherently, I'm having trouble imagining you as
>the creator of some amazing new SP site. Nothing personal.
Smiley Iha
>
>shit jeana, why the fuck do u think i rip all my info from other peeps
>sites? ohh, is it because i asked for permission to use a concert posters
>from simon? shut up u cumguzzler, if u would have read the posts, u would
>have realizeed that i have done lots of original stuff, and i am continuing
>to do more original pumpkins work. :)
>
>
you're the one that said it.. not me. Quit being the asshole that you ARE..
except the fact that there are good sites out there.. and get some serious
therapy.
0rlando
Moonkids wrote:
>
> yeh, im not bullshiting u joshua. it does consist of original, accurate
> content. i havent seen something like this anywhere. and the way it is
> presented is very logically, and coherently. ok, ill have a sample page
> ready for monday night.
You're going to do a page thet *you* think it will someday be on
starla.org in 48 hours?? Can't wait to see your awesome, burlap-ripoff.
np: smashing pumpkins -- I am one
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> well im not jealous, u people sure like putting words in other people's
> mouths huh? i think half of the stuff on starla.org is shit, like burlap
for
> example, thats shit. and the pro ne nata, thats shit too, so much for
being
> "the best"
You're really pissing me off, asshole. If it wasn't for burlap, most
people never would have heard of a lot of songs! If you were to make a
better songlist, as you've been claiming, most of it would probably be
ripped off of Burlap!!! PPRN has the news when there is news! There is
nothing wrong with it! What the hell is going on right now to justify
Onica constantly updating that site?! Next to nothing is happening!
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In article <348ac...@nemo.idirect.com>, moon...@idirect.ca says...
>
>shit jeana, why the fuck do u think i rip all my info from other peeps
>sites? ohh, is it because i asked for permission to use a concert posters
>from simon? shut up u cumguzzler, if u would have read the posts, u would
>have realizeed that i have done lots of original stuff, and i am continuing
>to do more original pumpkins work. :)
>
i really enjoy the fact that instead of providing some insightful(sp?)
responses to people you decide to dis em and call em names. then you proceed
to end your posts with a happy face. hey dad your fucking asshole, but look im
smiling so its okay. nice logic buddy. im gonna enjoy it when you come around
here advertising for people to go visit your pumpkins porn site, or when you
come on here looking for somekind of help. nothing better than reading up on
your favorite pumpkin song while at the same time looking at tits.
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In article <01bd032c$250b8c00$213884d0@default>, jo...@bmt.net says...
>
>
>
>You're really pissing me off, asshole. If it wasn't for burlap, most
>people never would have heard of a lot of songs!
if it wasnt for burlap, einstein here would have never thought of putting up a
song page, with an unreal amount of information. here let me do it for you
buddy, thank you burlap.
ApathyO
In article <348a0...@nemo.idirect.com>, "Moonkids" <moon...@idirect.ca>
writes:
>point 1- starla states that it has the best sp sites on the web
>point 2- by stating that it has the best sites on the web, starla.org claims
>it is above other sp sites.
>point 3- since starla.org claims it is above other sp sites, one must assume
>that starla.org claims to have a monopoly over the best smashing pumpkins
>content, which is insinuating that starla.org controls the best sp content
>on the web.
you are such a lame-ass.. mentally challenged..oh and because you say so then i
guess it makes it fact? getting a little carried away are we? trying to
defend yourself since you made incorrect and ignorant comments and no one.. not
a SOUL agrees with you so dar publicly now do they? i love the way you are
back peddling now..
so tell me...are you really this fucked up? or is it an act? im hoping its an
act...all yer spite and bitterness you throw at the people who are associated
with starla.org doesn't stick to anyone...it's all still inside of
you...rotting and fermenting. you posted repeatedly, which must have taken
the better part of your day and night, bitching about someone else's web page
stealing all the fan's away from your miniscule web page.. it;s apparent you
get no attention through your web page and it just eats you up inside to see
anyone else get attention you think you deserve...so you post on the newsgroup
like a big cry baby whining about how starla is just so mean.."boohoo.. the
bully on the playground won't let anyone play on the swings.."
here's a clue for you...you are getting all fucked up and yr panties in a bunch
over a WEB PAGE.. it's a COMPUTER for christsakes.. go get yourself a real life
already.. do you EVER leave your computer?
get a girlfriend.. get a job.. go try to get laid..
DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN OBSESS OVER A BAND and their fan's web pages THROUGH
YOUR COMPUTER.. do you realize how absolteuly pathetic you sound? try to find
some fucking dignity inside yourself and let it go already....
"When I wake up in my make up it's too early for that dress..
wilted and fading somewhere in hollywood...
I'm glad i came here with your pound of flesh" -Clove
Moonkids
actually jeana dissed me first. but of course i dissed simon first, so i
guess im a hypocrite, but jeana did flame me first.
--
"...arent u a tenacious little monkey" cosmo kramer
"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
moon...@idirect.ca
"once had a love and it was a gas" blondie
spacED wrote in message <66eqfu$ink$2...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>...
>In article <348ac...@nemo.idirect.com>, moon...@idirect.ca says...
>>
>>shit jeana, why the fuck do u think i rip all my info from other peeps
>>sites? ohh, is it because i asked for permission to use a concert posters
>>from simon? shut up u cumguzzler, if u would have read the posts, u would
>>have realizeed that i have done lots of original stuff, and i am
continuing
>>to do more original pumpkins work. :)
>>
>
>i really enjoy the fact that instead of providing some insightful(sp?)
>responses to people you decide to dis em and call em names. then you
proceed
>to end your posts with a happy face. hey dad your fucking asshole, but
look im
>smiling so its okay. nice logic buddy. im gonna enjoy it when you come
around
>here advertising for people to go visit your pumpkins porn site, or when
you
>come on here looking for somekind of help. nothing better than reading up
on
>your favorite pumpkin song while at the same time looking at tits.
Moonkids
what the helll u talking about? my sp page is not even up yet! jesus christ
mother fucker, go suck on a cow. :)
--
"...arent u a tenacious little monkey" cosmo kramer
"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
moon...@idirect.ca
"once had a love and it was a gas" blondie
ApathyO wrote in message <19971207190...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
Moonkids
and..
when i did have my sp page up a couple months back, it got lots of hits,
something like 1500 in the span of 4-5 weeks. but im not really interested
in excess recognition.
Moonkids
advertising to go to my pumpkins page huh? fucker, i already did that, and
fucker, who is the one that had to replace their keyboard 5 times after
cumming on them? of course, it was you, the fucker.
--
"...arent u a tenacious little monkey" cosmo kramer
"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
moon...@idirect.ca
"once had a love and it was a gas" blondie
spacED wrote in message <66eqfu$ink$2...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>...
spacED
In article <348af...@nemo.idirect.com>, moon...@idirect.ca says...
>
>advertising to go to my pumpkins page huh? fucker, i already did that, and
>fucker, who is the one that had to replace their keyboard 5 times after
>cumming on them? of course, it was you, the fucker.
>
oh wait, wait. that was like a witty remark about your porn site wasnt it, ya
i see it. oh i had to replace my keyboard *5* times cause i jerked off while
looking at your page. well it took me while to get your wit, cause looking a
naked girl the first thing that pops into my mind is not to jerk off, although
if it was, im sure that would be what i would dis people about. anyone feeling
a little guilty for being caught by granny?
>"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
wow, you know his last name. i bet your the kind of guy that writes William
Patrick Corgan Jr or Brian Warner just to impress people with your vast
knowledge of music 'trivia'.
carrie
please please tell us how your songography could be any better than
simon's. he has everything! how can you be more comprehensive than that??
carrie.
np: nothing.
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Moonkids wrote:
> actually im building a songography that is way more comprehensive than
> burlap. so it will be better than burlap. and im building other stuff also,
> that starla.org doesnt have, im not saying that my new site will have as
> much info as starla.org, it wont, because i only have 12-18megs of server
> space available to me. well, i already stated about the original ideas i had
> in an earlier post. the pumpkin crossword puzzle i had? i didnt see that
> anywhere else. the poster gallery? i didnt see that anywhere else.
>
> --
> http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/5747
> qua...@idirect.com
> Joshua Provost wrote in message ...
> >Moonkids wrote:
> >
> >> i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org has,
> >> i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
> >> available, starla.org. "
> >> like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
> >> starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites
> just
> >> dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
> >
> > OK, point me in the direction of sites better than what starla.org
> >offers...
> >
> > Who provided more high-quality live and rare audio files than the
> >Archive (which is about to fully online again)? If you say the Realm,
> >I'll die laughing. At their peak, they had only 250 files, crap,
> >duplicated into different formats to make it appear as though they had
> >more. Please...
> >
> > Who has a more comprehensive songlist with *accurate* lyrics and info
> >than Burlap? Name a site and I guarantee they stole every bit of info
> >from Burlap in the first place, because Simon did it first and
> >best...and still does!
> >
> > Who has more bass tabs than Sad Machines? Does anyone present them in
> >as coherant and consistant a format? Dave tabbed out all of these
> >himself!
> >
> > Who has more guitar tabs organized as nicely as Pumpkin Soup? Again,
> >does anyone present them in as coherant and consistant a format? Adam is
> >upgrading tabs every day. You'll only find the most accurate tabs
> >avaialable here.
> >
> > C'mon, the best is the best, let's not beat around the bush. I won't
> >put a site on starla.org unless it is the *best* site of it's kind. I'm
> >not going to waste server space on second-rate sites, people.
> >
> > As for PPRN, it gets updated whenever Onica emails me and says, 'hey,
> >gues what...' When it has current info, it is the truth, because Onica
> >speaks the word of truth, plain and simple.
> >
> > New sites are on their way, original sites! Dealing with info you've
> >never seen before. When they arrive, they will be imitated far and wide,
> >and yet no one will be able to match them. If someone does, I'll take my
> >site down, there's no point in having sub-par sites online, it only
> >creates confusion.
> >
> > Instead of trying to get all of the tabs on Sad Machines for your own
> >site, I have a better solution...put a *link* to Sad Machines on your
> >site. Sad Machines exists as a resource where people can get bass tabs,
> >we don't need two sites. That wastes bandwidth and server space and
> >confuses people.
> >
> > Can't you come up with *one* original thought for your own web site?
> >One thing that hasn't been done before? If you can't, then you shouldn't
> >be making a web site, you should be visiting the ones that exist.
> >However, there are areas that are as yet untouched. Brainstorm, maybe
> >you'll think of something. If you do, and it's completely original,
> >accurate, and appealing I'll link to it from starla.org and 10,000 people
> >each day will see the link.
Matthew BLB
>ok, well u didnt explain why starla.org advertises itself as a monopoly. do
>u not agree that starla.org markets itself as the best sp site on the net?
>if u need proof, read the message on the homepage.
<Sound of head being slammed repeatedly on table.>
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In article <3489d...@nemo.idirect.com>, Moonkids <moon...@idirect.ca>
spake thusly:
>ok, point taken. back when i was running my sp site, i tried gathering tabs,
>ok, so where do i go for tabs? sadmachines of course, but the guy who runs
>it (dave silverman i think) doesnt let anyone use his tabulature for their
>sites. and i talked with a few other people about this, one person , being a
>guy named cory who runs a sp site, and he agreed that dave silverman was an
>asshole for doing that.
Write your own freaking tabs or link to sadmachines main page. No law
against that. If you can't write your own tabs, then what can you do for
the world of tab that hasn't been done before?
Frankly, most of the tab sites I have seen stop with Chris Carman and
Brian McCall.
> i also dont like the cockyness that starla.org has,
>i quote..."Welcome to a cluster of the best Smashing Pumpkins web sites
>available, starla.org. "
>like what the hell is that? "the best"? in my opinion your stating that
>starla.org is superior to all other sp sites, and that other sp sites just
>dont compare. yeh, whatever guys.
>
And I bet you didn't put 'Welcome to MoOnKiDz Place. The best SP site
on the WeB!!!' or anything even similar. Did you?
Mark Andrew Hamilton
On 7 Dec 1997, spacED wrote:
> In article <348af...@nemo.idirect.com>, moon...@idirect.ca says...
> >
> >advertising to go to my pumpkins page huh? fucker, i already did that, and
> >fucker, who is the one that had to replace their keyboard 5 times after
> >cumming on them? of course, it was you, the fucker.
> >
> oh wait, wait. that was like a witty remark about your porn site wasnt it, ya
> i see it. oh i had to replace my keyboard *5* times cause i jerked off while
> looking at your page. well it took me while to get your wit, cause looking a
> naked girl the first thing that pops into my mind is not to jerk off, although
> if it was, im sure that would be what i would dis people about. anyone feeling
> a little guilty for being caught by granny?
>
<shoegays\frappster>
Personally, I enjoyed the Garth Brooks pictures much more than any naked
women.
And that caused 7 new keyboards to go through my house in a hurry.
</shoegays\frappster>
> >"i will skate as far as i takes" hayden dresser
>
> wow, you know his last name. i bet your the kind of guy that writes William
> Patrick Corgan Jr or Brian Warner just to impress people with your vast
> knowledge of music 'trivia'.
>
What a bloody genius this Moonkids is. But you're right. I used to think
it was cool to write "Alanis Morissette" all over my school binders, "back
in the day" when she only had one name.
np: sinead o'connor - just like u said it would b
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On 7 Dec 1997, spacED wrote:
> if it wasnt for burlap, einstein here would have never thought of putting up a
> song page, with an unreal amount of information. here let me do it for you
> buddy, thank you burlap.
>
Burlap makes me chafe.
:-)
Mark Andrew Hamilton
On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, J. Sherman wrote:
> I'd just like to point out that in the 4-odd years I've been here I've
> *never* seen a thread grow so gawdamn quickly. 100 posts in less than 24
> hours. Sheesh.
>
Jeez, I know what you mean... Every time I sent in a reply to something on
the ng, the list had expanded by 7 or 8 messages.
np: sinead o'connor - 4 my love