To hell with Sloan, anyway
Zebra Corp.
The Palais Royale." I must say, I am now officially fed up with Sloan.
Releasing something as pompous and unnecessary as a double-live album
(covering more than 50% of their studio output) is one thing, but the band
continue to refer to their influences, bands who I personally hate, such
as Kiss and AC/DC. Even the title is a supposed Kiss reference (a very
lame one). I wish they would return to producing original material instead
of thinly veiled playjurisms.
The mystique is gone, they are no longer the underdog indie band, they
are just four adults pretending to be rock stars (*specific* rock stars,
too, and that's the sad thing - here's the Beatles video, here's the Kiss
video...). You know there's a problem when more of the general public
could tell you that Navy Blues is their Kiss tribute album than could tell
you the name of the drummer. Come to think of it, that's probably a good
thing, Andrew is the only one who is still producing interesting material
in the band.
One Chord To Another was very Revolver-era Beatlesish. But at the time,
that was a bold move, and a fresh sound (sixties-go-nineties). The band
would actually try to downplay this - the retro sound was incorporated
into theirs, and it was their own. Now interviews tend to read like this:
"We're a classic rock band now. This song contains elements of this older
song, this song, and this song. I really dig my old vinyl collection. We
are four equal members, just like Kiss and the Beatles. Sloan are a cover
band."
This, along with the sheer pomposity of the way they constantly plug
their own names and faces (the insert to Navy Blues was pathetic) - if
they produce another derivitive-ass album, Sloan will have lost a big fan.
--
Ian Strung, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
E-Mail: ist...@home.com
Want to trade rare mp3s? I have Sloan, 160 Blur, Oasis, etc.
If you have a rare track on CD you can make an mp3 easily.
I am interested in all sorts of bands.
Sugar2n
discography sounds like it's paying homage to the band members' influences
(except some of Andrew's work as you stated). Could it be that you are like
me and feel that live albums/cd's are sort of a cop out/ego trip? I love
seeing bands in concert but detest live releases.
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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Spcmantra
think the route Sloan is taking is fucking GREAT!!! Anyone who knows anything
about the boys knows that they're all into early KISS. So what if they have a
little fun with the whole "rock star" thing. And as for being the "underdog
indie band", I can say ( because I am in a indie band) that the whole"indie"
status can't last forever. If they are becoming rock stars and acting like it,
good for them, THEY DESEVE IT. They've been playing like 10 years and I think
deserve a lot of recognition. Don't be pissed cause they're not yourlittle
indie pocket band anymore, you think they live in small apartments and took odd
jobs and played to a limited market and lived out of a van and ate cheap crappy
food for the last 10 years to always be an "indie" little pocket band?? Fuck
no, they didn't! They're finally getting somewhere and I think it's great!!!
And as far as your "Kiss tribute" idea of Navy Blues goes.....a bunch of crap.
One Chord was definitely sixties goes nineties, I'll agree with you
there.....but what a cool thing to do by making the next album a more 70's
oriented thing via Kiss, Ac/DC or even Thin Lizzy mixed with Beatles. You
remind me of some people I knew back in the mid eighties who were pissed cause
REM and the Replacements were finally makin it and going a little more
commercial. Christ, give em a break, they just want to be successful!!!
Zebra Corp.
spcm...@aol.com (Spcmantra) wrote:
>I gotta say that I totally DISAGREE with you on this one in a big big way!!! I
>think the route Sloan is taking is fucking GREAT!!! Anyone who knows anything
>about the boys knows that they're all into early KISS. So what if they have a
>little fun with the whole "rock star" thing. And as for being the "underdog
>indie band", I can say ( because I am in a indie band) that the whole"indie"
>status can't last forever. If they are becoming rock stars and acting like it,
But they aren't really rock stars at all - they could retain their former
non-pretentious artistry with their current level of success. Now it's all
"we're commerical and we admit it."
>good for them, THEY DESEVE IT. They've been playing like 10 years and I think
>deserve a lot of recognition. Don't be pissed cause they're not yourlittle
>indie pocket band anymore, you think they live in small apartments and took odd
Whatever you do, don't accuse me of not liking their newfound popularity.
I don't care about the attention they're getting, it just makes me sick
how hard they try to feed their own egos.
>jobs and played to a limited market and lived out of a van and ate cheap crappy
>food for the last 10 years to always be an "indie" little pocket band?? Fuck
>no, they didn't! They're finally getting somewhere and I think it's great!!!
>And as far as your "Kiss tribute" idea of Navy Blues goes.....a bunch of crap.
They admit it. How can you deny it?
>One Chord was definitely sixties goes nineties, I'll agree with you
>there.....but what a cool thing to do by making the next album a more 70's
>oriented thing via Kiss, Ac/DC or even Thin Lizzy mixed with Beatles. You
The point is, that's their career now - exploring past decades. I almost
expect their next album to be synth-y.
>remind me of some people I knew back in the mid eighties who were pissed cause
>REM and the Replacements were finally makin it and going a little more
>commercial. Christ, give em a break, they just want to be successful!!!
The music is sufferring. Big time. It's "count the rip-off" now. Luckily I
don't listen to trash-rock, but I've flipped by Q107 enough to have heard
a song by AC/DC that sounds almost exactly like the bridge to "She Says
What She Means." That's just one example.
Zebra Corp.
<sug...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I'm not sure what you mean by "original" material. Almost all of Sloan's
>discography sounds like it's paying homage to the band members' influences
Not really - Twice Removed was its own dog, and Smeared, while considered
to be a sonic youth-nirvana sounding album really has nothing to do with
those bands or anything else.
>(except some of Andrew's work as you stated). Could it be that you are like
>me and feel that live albums/cd's are sort of a cop out/ego trip?
They're not even a jam band, christ - I can just imagine that it would be
exactly like the albums, plus screw-ups and crowd chanting. The ads for it
are pathetic.
> I love
>seeing bands in concert but detest live releases.
>Caroline
--
Dan Misko
at a time:
Not liking a band because they are no longer the underdog? One word: RETARDED! If
you don't like their music that's one thing, but not liking them because they're
popular, that's just stupid. Besides, in my opinion Sloan is far from shedding the
underdog image. Especially in the US. they've come a long way in Canada but in
the US they're relatively unknown.
Promoting their image, themselves, their faces. . .somebody stop me but doesn't
every band do this? Is there a problem with it? I don't think so. If you're
talking about the SSWSM video where they come off sorta pompous, I kinda see where
you're coming from. But that whole thing about Sloan being portrayed as the
saviour of today's youth (or something like that) is just a reference to some old
movie.
Sloan's influences on Navy Blues are apparent. AC/DC, Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth,
Cheap Trick. . .they're all in there. There's a fine line between being influenced
by a band and completely ripping them off. Some might say that Sloan crosses that
line. A candidate for this would be Sloan's "Anyone Who's Anyone". It sounds a
lot like the Who's "Armenia City in the Sky". Personally, when I hear a song that
is clearly influenced by another song, I can appreciate it. I like all the bands
mentioned above. And when I hear Sloan playing with the same sound, I can say to
my self "they've got a good taste in music".
Live albums seem to be getting a pretty bad rap on this newsgroup lately. What
gives? Live albums are what rock 'n roll is all about. Its the next best thing to
actually being at the concert. Sure, the sound isn't as polished as on the studio
album, but there's just this raw energy that band's can't achieve in the studio.
I'd take a live album over a studio album anyday!
I encourage anyone who likes the new sound of Sloan to check out some of the band's
I mentioned above. In my opinion Nazareth, The Who, and Cheap Trick are all killer
live acts. I just picked up Cheap Trick at Budokan: The Complete Concert. What an
awesome album. Cheap Trick is the perfect example of a band being better live than
in the studio. Their studio work is admittedly pretty lame. But on the stage its
a totally different story.
Now lets end this silly discussion. I'll leave you with the words of a very wise
man: Homer Simpson.
Marge: "Homer, haven't you ever listened to your own voice on tape?"
Homer: "I prefer to listen to Cheap Trick."
Dan
Andy Gower
>album is claimed to be the only live album that doesn't suck. It's
>ridiculous, after four 12-track albums, they release a 28-track live album
>of no new material.
Hey "Torn" was kinda new for some people.
Live albums don't always suck:
Who - Live At Leeds
Allman Brothers - At Fillmore East
King Crimson - anything
Queen - Live Killers
Husker Du - The Living End
Pere Ubu - anything
Bob Dylan - MTV Unplugged
Guided By Voices - they don't have any (official) live albums but they're
great
Good live albums are those that provide different and better perspectives on
the studio material. I'm not saying the Sloan live album is good. It's OK.
It's definitely a fans-only kind of album unlike the albums I listed above.
Personally I think Mr. Ian Strung just likes to bitch in public. Anything
negative is the last little while comes from him. I guess he's frustrated,
but he doesn't seem interested in discussing, only dissing. Whatever, it's
just Sloan.
Andy Gower
Andy Gower
>to be a sonic youth-nirvana sounding album really has nothing to do with
>those bands or anything else.
_Smeared_ sounds a lot like My Bloody Valentine's guitar mass on _Loveless_.
They even said so themselves.
Andy Gower
Zebra Corp.
>Wow, there are almost too many arguments here for one thread. Let me
take them one
>at a time:
>
>Not liking a band because they are no longer the underdog? One word:
RETARDED! If
Oh, please. Take my choice of phrasing and turn it against me. No, I am
not one of those people who judges a band based on number of fans or
amount of exposure. The point is, they now act like pompous twits, and it
is reflected in all their interviews and the new release. They are no
longer on the way up, they feel they have gotten there, and can now
musically masturbate.
>you don't like their music that's one thing, but not liking them because
they're
>popular, that's just stupid. Besides, in my opinion Sloan is far from
shedding the
>underdog image. Especially in the US. they've come a long way in Canada
but in
>the US they're relatively unknown.
>
>Promoting their image, themselves, their faces. . .somebody stop me but doesn't
>every band do this? Is there a problem with it? I don't think so. If you're
Surely you've noticed the obsession with the "4" thing. They try very hard
to be media personalities and have their names and faces shown everywhere.
It's childish and extremely pompous - most bands do not mug this much. Our
Lady Peace have their carnival motif, Sloan have the
Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif. Treble Charger put a swirl on their album
cover, Sloan put their faces on their album cover.
>talking about the SSWSM video where they come off sorta pompous, I kinda
see where
>you're coming from. But that whole thing about Sloan being portrayed as the
>saviour of today's youth (or something like that) is just a reference to
some old
>movie.
That video was horrendous. I was willing to let all of it slide, the Chart
magazine cover, the whole deal. It was all in good fun. Until the live
album. Have you seen the ads for it? They come on stage and pose. Fans
chant. They look heroic. It's nauseating.
>Sloan's influences on Navy Blues are apparent. AC/DC, Kiss, Thin Lizzy,
Nazareth,
>Cheap Trick. . .they're all in there. There's a fine line between being
influenced
>by a band and completely ripping them off. Some might say that Sloan
crosses that
>line. A candidate for this would be Sloan's "Anyone Who's Anyone". It
sounds a
>lot like the Who's "Armenia City in the Sky".
Yes, as you've pointed out, it does, but that was OCTA-era sloan. If they
released that today, they'd be pointing it out in every interview.
> Personally, when I hear a song that
>is clearly influenced by another song, I can appreciate it. I like all
the bands
>mentioned above. And when I hear Sloan playing with the same sound, I
can say to
>my self "they've got a good taste in music".
Ech, I find myself unable to enjoy it on that level. I'd rather listen to
the original (and in the case of AC/DC, I'd rather not listen to any of
it).
>Live albums seem to be getting a pretty bad rap on this newsgroup lately. What
>gives? Live albums are what rock 'n roll is all about. Its the next
best thing to
There are two rules about live albums: 1) they always suck, 2) every live
album is claimed to be the only live album that doesn't suck. It's
ridiculous, after four 12-track albums, they release a 28-track live album
of no new material.
>I encourage anyone who likes the new sound of Sloan to check out some of
the band's
>I mentioned above. In my opinion Nazareth, The Who, and Cheap Trick are
all killer
>live acts. I just picked up Cheap Trick at Budokan: The Complete
Concert. What an
>awesome album. Cheap Trick is the perfect example of a band being better
live than
>in the studio. Their studio work is admittedly pretty lame. But on the
stage its
>a totally different story.
>
>Now lets end this silly discussion. I'll leave you with the words of a
very wise
>man: Homer Simpson.
>
>Marge: "Homer, haven't you ever listened to your own voice on tape?"
>Homer: "I prefer to listen to Cheap Trick."
I don't get it.
Yuppie Slayer
Or one at all?
Either way, make sure you notify me of any you do attend. That way I can
stay as far away as possible.
Pretty bitter for some reason.
--
Yupi...@MNSi.net
http://www.mnsi.net/~yupislyr/
Zebra Corp. wrote in message ...
Yuppie Slayer
Zebra Corp. wrote in message ...
>not one of those people who judges a band based on number of fans or
>amount of exposure. The point is, they now act like pompous twits, and it
>is reflected in all their interviews and the new release. They are no
>longer on the way up, they feel they have gotten there, and can now
>musically masturbate.
>
Well seems that way. You say down below you don't like how they are having
their names and faces shown every where.
Acting like pompous twits?
Well I dunno. I for one don't have to like the band as people to like their
music. And since you list Oasis down in your little signature you must be
the same :P Unless you actually like the way some of those Oasis boys act
outside of just making music.
>
>Surely you've noticed the obsession with the "4" thing. They try very hard
>to be media personalities and have their names and faces shown everywhere.
>It's childish and extremely pompous - most bands do not mug this much. Our
>Lady Peace have their carnival motif, Sloan have the
>Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif. Treble Charger put a swirl on their album
>cover, Sloan put their faces on their album cover.
>
Oh who cares. You don't have to listen to all the media if it's so goddamn
evil. There's a new release out, they wanna actually make some money and
promote it. You'd do the same.
>
>That video was horrendous. I was willing to let all of it slide, the Chart
>magazine cover, the whole deal. It was all in good fun. Until the live
>album. Have you seen the ads for it? They come on stage and pose. Fans
>chant. They look heroic. It's nauseating.
Lol.
Isn't that what bands do at shows?
Isn't that what fans do at shows?
Have you even been to any shows?
>
>>Live albums seem to be getting a pretty bad rap on this newsgroup lately.
What
>>gives? Live albums are what rock 'n roll is all about. Its the next
>best thing to
>
>There are two rules about live albums: 1) they always suck, 2) every live
>album is claimed to be the only live album that doesn't suck. It's
>ridiculous, after four 12-track albums, they release a 28-track live album
>of no new material.
>
I was expecting some new material perhaps during their concerts but not on
the actual live album when the new songs haven't even been released on a
studio album. This wasn't meant to be a showcase of new material, that's
what the Sept. release is supposed to be. It was supposed to be for all the
fans who've liked them through the years and also since Sloan live tapes
seem to be pretty popular, to satisfy the desire for an official live
release.
--
Yupi...@MNSi.net
http://www.mnsi.net/~yupislyr/
Yuppie Slayer
>Good live albums are those that provide different and better perspectives
on
>the studio material. I'm not saying the Sloan live album is good. It's OK.
>It's definitely a fans-only kind of album unlike the albums I listed above.
That's what I want to hear live too. Something different and new maybe.
Unless you just wanna go see a band who sounds exactly the same as their
studio release ie). Garbage. And if any of you people have seen Sloan
lately, they are better. Playing better, longer performances, making them
more fun, and mixing it up live.
For the live album, well ya, I still like it alot but I'll still listen to
my own live tapes of Sloan concerts alot too. It's probably assumed that in
the first place, anyone who wants this release is a big fan. They have all
their albums, and probably want to relive the concerts or something like
that and aren't very likely to complain about buying the same songs over
again.
>
>Personally I think Mr. Ian Strung just likes to bitch in public. Anything
>negative is the last little while comes from him. I guess he's frustrated,
>but he doesn't seem interested in discussing, only dissing. Whatever, it's
>just Sloan.
Tru dat :P~
Zebra Corp.
<yupi...@mnsi.net> wrote:
>Zebra Corp. wrote in message ...
>>Oh, please. Take my choice of phrasing and turn it against me. No, I am
>>not one of those people who judges a band based on number of fans or
>>amount of exposure. The point is, they now act like pompous twits, and it
>>is reflected in all their interviews and the new release. They are no
>>longer on the way up, they feel they have gotten there, and can now
>>musically masturbate.
>>
>
>Well seems that way. You say down below you don't like how they are having
>their names and faces shown every where.
>Acting like pompous twits?
>Well I dunno. I for one don't have to like the band as people to like their
>music. And since you list Oasis down in your little signature you must be
>the same :P Unless you actually like the way some of those Oasis boys act
>outside of just making music.
That's the thing - this is going to sound weird, but I guess Sloan are
sort of turning into Oasis, aren't they? Extremely derivitive, trying to
force themselves into the press - I like Oasis, but I always considered
Sloan to be the superior band.
>>
>>Surely you've noticed the obsession with the "4" thing. They try very hard
>>to be media personalities and have their names and faces shown everywhere.
>>It's childish and extremely pompous - most bands do not mug this much. Our
>>Lady Peace have their carnival motif, Sloan have the
>>Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif. Treble Charger put a swirl on their album
>>cover, Sloan put their faces on their album cover.
>>
>
>Oh who cares. You don't have to listen to all the media if it's so goddamn
>evil. There's a new release out, they wanna actually make some money and
>promote it. You'd do the same.
Fine, ignore that gripe. I can ignore it. But the pomposity is seeping
into their releases.
>>
>>That video was horrendous. I was willing to let all of it slide, the Chart
>>magazine cover, the whole deal. It was all in good fun. Until the live
>>album. Have you seen the ads for it? They come on stage and pose. Fans
>>chant. They look heroic. It's nauseating.
>
>Lol.
> Isn't that what bands do at shows?
>Isn't that what fans do at shows?
>Have you even been to any shows?
See the ad. It's really pathetic.
Zebra Corp.
<SPAMa...@netcom.ca> wrote:
>Personally I think Mr. Ian Strung just likes to bitch in public. Anything
>negative is the last little while comes from him. I guess he's frustrated,
>but he doesn't seem interested in discussing, only dissing. Whatever, it's
>just Sloan.
Real mature. My post was a discussion - a negative discussion - but there
were no "disses," as you put it. I hope you aren't one of these people who
thinks that their favourite band can do no wrong.
Zebra Corp.
<yupi...@mnsi.net> wrote:
>Have you even been to a Sloan show lately?
>Or one at all?
>Either way, make sure you notify me of any you do attend. That way I can
>stay as far away as possible.
Cute, "Yuppie Slayer."
Dan Misko
already. I haven't seen it, but can it really be that bad? From what you
described I wouldn't think it could be that horrendous, and I'm sure its not.
Anyway, you were saying earlier that Sloan's next sound (if they do continue
this pattern) on the September album (that is when its due out, isn't it?) wil
the synth. I know you're joking (I hope) but I wouldn't be surprised if the
sorta moved into punk. Then again, maybe they'll stick with what they've got
now. Wither way I'll always be a fan. Unless of course they become the next
Backstreet Boys clone. Then I'm out.
Later
Sugar2n
--
Caroline
Sloan turning into Oasis? Ian, it's marketing not reality! Have you ever
met the members of Sloan in person? They are so sweet and down to earth,
especially Chris Murphy and Jay Ferguson. I'm talking about just a few
months ago when they toured here in the States. I thought they were quite
approachable. I seriously doubt I'd ever have the chance at a friendly
conversation with Noel or Liam Gallagher. and not for my lack of trying. As
for the vid SSWSM, I thought it was hysterical (although filmed poorly). I
haven't seen the ad for 4 Nights, but are you sure it wasn't done tongue in
cheek like SSWSM? Or maybe some KISS fans would know- is the ad a nod to
some KISS video?
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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In article <istrung-1304...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
> That's the thing - this is going to sound weird, but I guess Sloan are
> sort of turning into Oasis, aren't they? Extremely derivitive, trying to
> force themselves into the press - I like Oasis, but I always considered
> Sloan to be the superior band.
>
>>>
>>>That video was horrendous. I was willing to let all of it slide, the Chart
>>>magazine cover, the whole deal. It was all in good fun. Until the live
>>>album. Have you seen the ads for it? They come on stage and pose. Fans
>>>chant. They look heroic. It's nauseating.
>>
>
> See the ad. It's really pathetic.
>
Sugar2n
topic he brought up for discussion isn't a glowing critique doesn't mean
it's not worthy of discussing. Besides, this board was getting too quiet :)
--
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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In article <istrung-1304...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
> In article <CUBQ2.22282$134.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Andy Gower"
> <SPAMa...@netcom.ca> wrote:
>
>>Personally I think Mr. Ian Strung just likes to bitch in public. Anything
>>negative is the last little while comes from him. I guess he's frustrated,
>>but he doesn't seem interested in discussing, only dissing. Whatever, it's
>>just Sloan.
>
> Real mature. My post was a discussion - a negative discussion - but there
> were no "disses," as you put it. I hope you aren't one of these people who
> thinks that their favourite band can do no wrong.
>
Sugar2n
--
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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In article <istrung-1304...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
> In article <92398712...@news.remarQ.com>, "Yuppie Slayer"
> <yupi...@mnsi.net> wrote:
>
>>Have you even been to a Sloan show lately?
>>Or one at all?
>>Either way, make sure you notify me of any you do attend. That way I can
>>stay as far away as possible.
>
> Cute, "Yuppie Slayer."
>
Andy Gower
>were no "disses," as you put it. I hope you aren't one of these people who
>thinks that their favourite band can do no wrong.
I'm just saying that I've never seen you post anything remotely positive on
the newsgroup, so it's difficult to accept your criticisms as heartfelt and
considered, instead of just being bitchy and wanting to rant. Your posts
look like they came from someone who has a serious beef with the band.
I don't mind complaining about an album. As I said in my original (other)
post, the live album was a disappointment for me too. I just didn't feel the
need to attack their credibility and originality. I know they're strongly
influenced by other artists, and that does bother me sometimes, but they're
still more fun and enjoyable than a lot of other current acts.
Sloan isn't my fav band. They can do wrong. I just don't see the point in
spilling out a lot of venom over it. If it's worth your time, go ahead and
gripe. Your posts are the only ones in this newsgroup that show some
critical outlook instead of just fawning all over Sloan. If you dislike them
so much, try using that super fast cable modem to find some new music on the
MP3 newsgroups and then tell us who we should check out. I'm open to
suggestions. Sloan isn't the be-all, end-all.
Cheers,
Andy Gower
Zebra Corp.
<sug...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>--
>Caroline
>Sloan turning into Oasis? Ian, it's marketing not reality! Have you ever
>met the members of Sloan in person? They are so sweet and down to earth,
I've met Patrick, he seems nice enough, but maybe I caught Chris on an off
day, he was a complete asshole.
>especially Chris Murphy and Jay Ferguson. I'm talking about just a few
>months ago when they toured here in the States. I thought they were quite
>approachable. I seriously doubt I'd ever have the chance at a friendly
>conversation with Noel or Liam Gallagher. and not for my lack of trying. As
Maybe Noel.
>for the vid SSWSM, I thought it was hysterical (although filmed poorly). I
>haven't seen the ad for 4 Nights, but are you sure it wasn't done tongue in
>cheek like SSWSM? Or maybe some KISS fans would know- is the ad a nod to
>some KISS video?
Probably.
--
Zebra Corp., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Zebra Corp.
>I think you've mentioned the ad for 4 Nights about three times in this thread
>already. I haven't seen it, but can it really be that bad? From what you
>described I wouldn't think it could be that horrendous, and I'm sure its not.
>
>Anyway, you were saying earlier that Sloan's next sound (if they do continue
>this pattern) on the September album (that is when its due out, isn't it?) wil
>the synth. I know you're joking (I hope) but I wouldn't be surprised if the
>sorta moved into punk. Then again, maybe they'll stick with what they've got
>now. Either way I'll always be a fan.
I'm crossing my fingers that the next album won't suck. It could go either
way. I no longer consider myself a fan of the group - just a fan of their
older material. I didn't even go to the Palais Royale show, come to think
of it. I have to wait to redeem them. They truly are turning into
something sucky.
Zebra Corp.
<SPAMa...@netcom.ca> wrote:
>>Real mature. My post was a discussion - a negative discussion - but there
>>were no "disses," as you put it. I hope you aren't one of these people who
>>thinks that their favourite band can do no wrong.
>
>I'm just saying that I've never seen you post anything remotely positive on
>the newsgroup,
Go to alt.music.blur.
>I don't mind complaining about an album. As I said in my original (other)
>post, the live album was a disappointment for me too. I just didn't feel the
>need to attack their credibility and originality.
I did.
>I know they're strongly
>influenced by other artists,
Ridiculously so.
>and that does bother me sometimes, but they're
>still more fun and enjoyable than a lot of other current acts.
They're slipping.
>Sloan isn't my fav band. They can do wrong. I just don't see the point in
>spilling out a lot of venom over it. If it's worth your time, go ahead and
>gripe. Your posts are the only ones in this newsgroup that show some
>critical outlook instead of just fawning all over Sloan.
Is that such a bad thing?
And besides, other than this and the gripe about the home page, what are
you talking about?
> If you dislike them
>so much, try using that super fast cable modem to find some new music on the
>MP3 newsgroups and then tell us who we should check out. I'm open to
>suggestions. Sloan isn't the be-all, end-all.
Check out the Rheostatics. The closest band there is to the be-all
end-all. They also released a double-live album - after 7 other albums.
And it contained new material.
>Cheers,
>
>Andy Gower
Zebra Corp.
<sug...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Have you been to any Sloan concerts, Ian?
>--
>Caroline
The varsity arena gig, plus edgefest (I'd rather not talk about that. That
was a dark day. I would not go to another festival concert if I was paid
$40 to go) and the balcony gig.
>"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
>
>----------
>In article <istrung-1304...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
>ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
>
>
>> In article <92398712...@news.remarQ.com>, "Yuppie Slayer"
>> <yupi...@mnsi.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Have you even been to a Sloan show lately?
>>>Or one at all?
>>>Either way, make sure you notify me of any you do attend. That way I can
>>>stay as far away as possible.
>>
>> Cute, "Yuppie Slayer."
>>
>> --
>> Ian Strung, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Sizzleteen
the path sloan is taking is really making me sick to my stomach. i used to love
them to death, now they make me want to cry. maybe i can't appreciate navy
blues because i hoped it would be something like twice removed and OCTA. i
thought that was my problem, but i realized it isn't. i don't like the
direction they're heading. i am honestly afraid of what the new album is going
to sound like.
jennie
Spcmantra
hell with Sloan anyway" post has his head up his ass. So if you don't like
Sloan for putting out a live album then take a walk!!! I can't tell you how
many of my favorite bands wait for like 2-3 years at a time to put something
new out. Sloan has put out One Chord in 97, then Navy Blues a year later then a
live album less than a year later and now a new studio album like 6 months from
when the live album came out. That's AWESOME!! These guys don't waste
time.......I think it's because they are fans of bands who do just what I
mentioned above and want to keep the fans happy. Knowing all this, how can you
say they have "rock star" attitudes when really they're great, funny cool guys
playing with the "rock star" attitude on stage. Sheeesh!!!!
Sugar2n
cable co. carried Much). I liked the sound a lot. What would you recommend
for a first CD?
--
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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In article <istrung-1404...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
> Check out the Rheostatics. The closest band there is to the be-all
> end-all. They also released a double-live album - after 7 other albums.
> And it contained new material.
>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Andy Gower
>
R.H. Allen
news:37134E86...@cc.umanitoba.ca...
>
> Anyway, you were saying earlier that Sloan's next sound (if they do
continue
> this pattern) on the September album (that is when its due out, isn't it?)
wil
> the synth. I know you're joking (I hope) but I wouldn't be surprised if
the
> sorta moved into punk. Then again, maybe they'll stick with what they've
got
next
> Backstreet Boys clone. Then I'm out.
Whatever direction the next record takes, I doubt it will be the same as
Navy Blues or any of their other records. After all, they really don't have
any two albums that sound alike. That's one of the reasons I like them --
had all their records sounded like Smeared I'd have been bored with them
long ago.
Now that they've conquered 70s rock, maybe they'll go for 70s pop -- you
know, like the Carpenters, The Captain & Tenielle, The Mamas & The Papas,
Sonny & Cher... Or maybe they'll form a barbershop quartet!
Zebra Corp.
<sug...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I've only heard one song by the Rheostatics (a couple of years ago when my
>cable co. carried Much). I liked the sound a lot. What would you recommend
>for a first CD?
Whale Music or Introducing Happiness (whichever's cheaper). These albums
changed the way I saw the world.
--
Zebra Corp., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
E-Mail: ist...@home.com
Want to trade rare mp3s? I have Sloan, 160 Blur, Oasis, etc.
Zebra Corp.
(Spcmantra) wrote:
>Whoever the jerkoff was (can't even remember who) who originally posted "the
>hell with Sloan anyway" post has his head up his ass. So if you don't like
>Sloan for putting out a live album then take a walk!!!
The real problem with the new Sloan is that they attract fans like this.
Spcmantra
wanna love bands that 3 people and myself know about" people in the trash! It's
sad to see someone stop liking a band because they're reaching more people and
becoming successful! Get a life! See the big picture! If you told the guys how
you felt, they would probably laugh right in your face! I have been a fan since
1992 and I think it's great what is happeing to them.Grow up and move along!
Sugar2n
--
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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In article <istrung-1404...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
> In article <7f2mf8$ee5$1...@samsara0.mindspring.com>, "Sugar2n"
> <sug...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>I've only heard one song by the Rheostatics (a couple of years ago when my
>>cable co. carried Much). I liked the sound a lot. What would you recommend
>>for a first CD?
>
> Whale Music or Introducing Happiness (whichever's cheaper). These albums
> changed the way I saw the world.
>
Sugar2n
I've read that Chris is a fan of _Pet Sounds_ (I think Jay is too, if I
remember correctly). I think it would be great to hear them cover _Wouldn't
It Be Nice_ or _(I Guess I Just) Wasn't Made for These Times_.
--
Caroline
"And so I'm writing with the hope that someone's reading..."- love dem
Posies!
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In article <7f2rpm$2...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "R.H. Allen"
LimeZinger
nah, he would never attend a sloan show. "sloan live? oh please! sloan playing
live is just their sad attempt at being popular..." ;)
sarah
http://members.aol.com/limezinger
linne...@tmbg.org * icq #26873712 * mstie #77216
"once i left my soul on the top of a car and drove off."- mike nelson, mst3k
LimeZinger
>Lady Peace have their carnival motif, Sloan have the
>Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif. Treble Charger put a swirl on their album
>cover, Sloan put their faces on their album cover.
>Fans
>chant. They look heroic. It's nauseating.
so go praise TC for the swirl then instead of cutting sloan down for the
"Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif".... jesus christ...
bitch bitch bitch.
sarah
oddly enough, np. treble charger: "maybe it's me"
LimeZinger
>were no "disses," as you put it. I hope you aren't one of these people who
>thinks that their favourite band can do no wrong.
people are free to hate sloan. my best friend hates sloan.
but *you* personally have gained a reputation on this group as being Queen
Bitch. *you* personally can always find something to complain about, regarding
sloan. i don't seem to recall anything positive posted by you (i'm not saying
that you haven't posted anything positive, but i am saying that the negatives
stand out far more than the positives). discussion doesn't ~always~ equal
criticism.
sarah
LimeZinger
>day, he was a complete asshole.
well if i met you, i'd be an asshole right back. i don't know how you act in
person, but if it's anything like this, i don't blame chris at all. what'd you
do, walk up to him and call him a sellout? <g> i've met him and he's a great
guy.
Zebra Corp.
spcm...@aol.com (Spcmantra) wrote:
Fan since 1992?! That would make you... well, far older than I would have
guessed.
Blinded99
okay, i think i'm going to get into this discussion now.
first, i don't think putting out the double live cd is going to make sloan
anymore popular then the are right now. people who aren't big fans aren't going
to buy it. even people who are big fans aren't necessarily going to buy it. it
does seem sort of weird that a band with 4 full lengths would put out a live cd
when other bands who have been around for a lot longer haven't done it but part
of the fun of sloan is the live shows. i've been to quite a few and while not
all shows are good they are always fun. and i think that's the point the cd
makes.
and i'll admit i don't like navy blues. i was disappointed and i never listen
to it. but sloan does change it's sound with each cd. look at the huge leap
between smeared and twice removed. you might not even think it's the same band.
and all bands need to change. if they kept putting out the same cd over and
over again you'd quickly grow tired. i totally love REM but even they put out
cds that i don't like. i still can't listen to New Adventures in Hi-Fi all the
way through.
as for the "rock star" thing. sloan have always acted like rock stars.
especially Chris. i saw them in 1992 when they were a little band with one hit
song and they did the same thing. i think they like to pretend. and they aren't
that famous really.
you don't have to blindly like everything a band you listen to does. but some
of what has been said seems really overeactive. i don't like everything sloan
does but i haven't seen them do anything yet that explains the anger that has
been expressed here. and if you don't like the turn they take with the new cd
(and i'm also wondering what it will sound like) then you just stop buying the
cds and move on...
ang
"And I Need More, Could I Be More Vague"
-Julie Doiron
Zebra Corp.
(Blinded99) wrote:
I just miss the old Sloan. And I really HATE Kiss.
Zebra Corp.
limez...@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) wrote:
>>Our
>>Lady Peace have their carnival motif, Sloan have the
>>Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif. Treble Charger put a swirl on their album
>>cover, Sloan put their faces on their album cover.
>
>>Fans
>>chant. They look heroic. It's nauseating.
>
>so go praise TC for the swirl then instead of cutting sloan down for the
>"Andrew/Jay/Chris/Patrick motif".... jesus christ...
>
>bitch bitch bitch.
Hey, don't say those things about Jesus. He was OK
Zebra Corp.
limez...@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) wrote:
>>Real mature. My post was a discussion - a negative discussion - but there
>>were no "disses," as you put it. I hope you aren't one of these people who
>>thinks that their favourite band can do no wrong.
>
>people are free to hate sloan. my best friend hates sloan.
>
>but *you* personally have gained a reputation on this group as being Queen
>Bitch. *you* personally can always find something to complain about, regarding
>sloan. i don't seem to recall anything positive posted by you (i'm not saying
>that you haven't posted anything positive, but i am saying that the negatives
>stand out far more than the positives).
LoL! Goodbye, credibility! "You may in fact say positive things, but I
don't remember them!"
Zebra Corp.
limez...@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) wrote:
>>I've met Patrick, he seems nice enough, but maybe I caught Chris on an off
>>day, he was a complete asshole.
>
>well if i met you, i'd be an asshole right back. i don't know how you act in
>person, but if it's anything like this, i don't blame chris at all. what'd you
OK, I don't understand the rudeness coming from yourself - I have no
personal beef against you, what is with these missiles of unpleasantness
you're launching at me? I'm not "acting" like anything, I'm saying things.
Things you don't like. You choose to hate me as a person for this. Well,
whatever. Chris was probably drunk at the time. Honestly. He claimed not
to drink in one of his songs, but this was a big party, and he was at
least pretending to be out of his mind.
>do, walk up to him and call him a sellout? <g> i've met him and he's a great
>guy.
>
>
>sarah
>http://members.aol.com/limezinger
>linne...@tmbg.org * icq #26873712 * mstie #77216
>"once i left my soul on the top of a car and drove off."- mike nelson, mst3k
--
bu...@roadrunner.nf.net
the edge but he hasn't fallen YET. most bands have some influence but very
few bands a complete rip offs, sloan not being one of them. as for them sell
out on their indie fame, i don't think it's true. they may be somewhat
popular and mainstream but they are still kind of like spokesmen for the east
coast scene. the day they make a remix version of any of their songs will be
the day i say they went to far. (ie bryan adams new song cloud nuber nine)
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In article <7f522e$mhn$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Josh Drury
>
> Surely you've noticed the obsession with the "4" thing. They try very hard
> to be media personalities and have their names and faces shown everywhere.
Still, much better to have four recognisable figures in a band than just
a lead singer and three or four guys who play behing him or her.
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Josh Drury
>
> > (i'm not saying
> >that you haven't posted anything positive, but i am saying that the negatives
> >stand out far more than the positives).
>
> LoL! Goodbye, credibility! "You may in fact say positive things, but I
> don't remember them!"
>
>
negative, the positie is drowned out. a more balanced attack might do
welll to improve your own credibility.
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Josh Drury
>
> >Whoever the jerkoff was (can't even remember who) who originally posted "the
> >hell with Sloan anyway" post has his head up his ass. So if you don't like
> >Sloan for putting out a live album then take a walk!!!
>
> The real problem with the new Sloan is that they attract fans like this.
sorry, but it begs the quote:
"It's not the band I hate, it's their fans"
Or is it?
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Josh Drury
>
> Chris was probably drunk at the time. Honestly. He claimed not
> to drink in one of his songs, but this was a big party, and he was at
> least pretending to be out of his mind.
>
point out that not all of their songs, or any artists songs, for that
matter, are autobiographical; so "I told her I don't smoke or drink" may
have no significance in real life.
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Rhiannon
>
> and i'll admit i don't like navy blues. i was disappointed and i never listen
> to it. but sloan does change it's sound with each cd. look at the huge leap
> between smeared and twice removed. you might not even think it's the same band.
> and all bands need to change. if they kept putting out the same cd over and
> over again you'd quickly grow tired. i totally love REM but even they put out
> cds that i don't like. i still can't listen to New Adventures in Hi-Fi all the
> way through.
>
I'm glad I'm not the only person who doesn't really like Navy Blues. it's okay,
it's just not great. and yet that's all most people know of sloan.
and while we're on the subject of REM, and that "the evolution of sloan" thing,
personally I wouldn't mind hearing them move into a REM-80s music type vein. I
think that would be kind of cool
re cover songs. also sounds cool to me. I wouldn't mind hearing sloan cover
something silly though, like summer of '69. I think that would make me laugh
for far too long
rhiannon
LimeZinger
>personal beef against you, what is with these missiles of unpleasantness
>you're launching at me?
i never said you were attacking me, but rather this little newsgroup here.
posts after post of complaints. gets a little tiring after the 50th time or
so...
sarah
http://members.aol.com/limezinger
linne...@tmbg.org * icq #26873712 * mstie #77216
matt: "I'M NOT A BANK"
erin: "i'm not WILL FERRELL GODDAMNIT"
matt: "well learn to be!"
Zebra Corp.
<umdr...@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
The positive stuff has been said. I'm not going to balance out anything.
R.H. Allen
news:istrung-1504...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com...
>
> whatever. Chris was probably drunk at the time. Honestly. He claimed not
> to drink in one of his songs, but this was a big party, and he was at
> least pretending to be out of his mind.
Gord Downie sang about dumping a body. Who wants to call the cops?
Dan Misko
"craig.." wrote:
> How many of them live on the coast still? How many of them live in
> Toronto now?
I may be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure they're all in Toronto except for
Patrick. At lease this is what I "think" I heard them saying in an interview.
Mind you this was around when Navy Blues was first released, so the situation may
have changed since then. then again, I may be totally wrong.
Dan
Sugar2n
--
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
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In article <7f5s44$1...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "R.H. Allen"
Sugar2n
as well. *Sigh*
--
Caroline
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"-R. Butler
----------
In article <37168EEA...@ncf.ca>, "craig.." <at...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>
>
> bu...@roadrunner.nf.net wrote:
>
>> they may be somewhat popular and mainstream but they are still kind of like
>> spokesmen for the east coast scene.
>
> How many of them live on the coast still? How many of them live in
> Toronto now?
>
> Just wondering.
>
> cm.
>
> --
> "Intelligence is rather relative, guy ! The have not with
> respect to the have and the vice versa is apparently
> paradoxical but demonstrable to empirical results.."
> - Venu Atiyolil on himself in ncf.general
>
> cmcf...@chat.carleton.ca ICQ: 5767621
>
>
craig..
Zebra Corp.
limez...@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) wrote:
>>OK, I don't understand the rudeness coming from yourself - I have no
>>personal beef against you, what is with these missiles of unpleasantness
>>you're launching at me?
>
>i never said you were attacking me, but rather this little newsgroup here.
>posts after post of complaints. gets a little tiring after the 50th time or
>so...
...so you call me an asshole. Good! Keep it up.
Zebra Corp.
>Zebra Corp. <ist...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:istrung-1504...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com...
>>
>> whatever. Chris was probably drunk at the time. Honestly. He claimed not
>> to drink in one of his songs, but this was a big party, and he was at
>> least pretending to be out of his mind.
>
>Gord Downie sang about dumping a body. Who wants to call the cops?
Blah, blah, blah - Chris has said he doesn't smoke or drink in Chart
magazine, that book about East Coast music, etc..
Stephen Cooke
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Dan Misko wrote:
> "craig.." wrote:
>
> > How many of them live on the coast still? How many of them live in
> > Toronto now?
>
> I may be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure they're all in Toronto except for
> Patrick. At lease this is what I "think" I heard them saying in an interview.
> Mind you this was around when Navy Blues was first released, so the situation may
> have changed since then. then again, I may be totally wrong.
Patrick moved to Toronto around the time of Navy Blue's release. They all
live there now.
(Plus, a recent story quoted Chris as saying they've got their first
Toronto rehearsal space in ages)
Josh Drury
>
> The positive stuff has been said. I'm not going to balance out anything.
>
Fair enough, I suppose. Just one simple question, though: what exactly
is the point of so many negative posts?
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Zebra Corp.
LimeZinger
Zebra Corp.
limez...@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) wrote:
>>Two?
>
>all?
Oh, boo hoo hoo. Is my negativity overwhelming you? There, there. Poor
sweet baby. I'm sorry, I'll try to think happy thoughts from now on.
Christ.
LimeZinger
"hey, don't talk about jesus that way."
:)
sarah
http://members.aol.com/limezinger
linne...@tmbg.org * icq #26873712 * mstie #77216
"i don't just talk in limericks and rhymes and jips and jimes" - jesse camp
faithlessth...@yahoo.com
ok, have you heard the new live album or are you just talking blindly about
something you have never heard? sloan sounds nothing like kiss, even if thats
who they are trying to be. they will never sound like a tribute band. i don't
even listen to navy blues that much but i do know that it dose not sound like
a tribute album. it is a rock album but it still sounds like sloan. the songs
sound like sloan songs, not kiss songs. you also seam to be implying that
what matters is that a band dosen't like bands that you think suck, not that
they makes good music. sloan still make good albums and that is what matters
to me. you are right that they are no longer the underdog indie band, whats
wrong with that? all bands have to grow and move on. they are not supose to
stay in the same place forever. sure it is fun to cheer for the underdog but
you can't expect the bands you like to never move on. if this is not the
sloan you once loved, move on. you have every right not to like them. i just
find the reasons you gave silly. oh yeah and thanks for getting everyone here
posting again. ~amy~
In article <istrung-1204...@cr1000089-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com>,
ist...@home.com (Zebra Corp.) wrote:
> I just finished reading the Chart magazine interview promoting "4Nights At
> The Palais Royale." I must say, I am now officially fed up with Sloan.
> Releasing something as pompous and unnecessary as a double-live album
> (covering more than 50% of their studio output) is one thing, but the band
> continue to refer to their influences, bands who I personally hate, such
> as Kiss and AC/DC. Even the title is a supposed Kiss reference (a very
> lame one). I wish they would return to producing original material instead
> of thinly veiled playjurisms.
> The mystique is gone, they are no longer the underdog indie band, they
> are just four adults pretending to be rock stars (*specific* rock stars,
> too, and that's the sad thing - here's the Beatles video, here's the Kiss
> video...). You know there's a problem when more of the general public
> could tell you that Navy Blues is their Kiss tribute album than could tell
> you the name of the drummer. Come to think of it, that's probably a good
> thing, Andrew is the only one who is still producing interesting material
> in the band.
> One Chord To Another was very Revolver-era Beatlesish. But at the time,
> that was a bold move, and a fresh sound (sixties-go-nineties). The band
> would actually try to downplay this - the retro sound was incorporated
> into theirs, and it was their own. Now interviews tend to read like this:
> "We're a classic rock band now. This song contains elements of this older
> song, this song, and this song. I really dig my old vinyl collection. We
> are four equal members, just like Kiss and the Beatles. Sloan are a cover
> band."
> This, along with the sheer pomposity of the way they constantly plug
> their own names and faces (the insert to Navy Blues was pathetic) - if
> they produce another derivitive-ass album, Sloan will have lost a big fan.
>
> --
> Ian Strung, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
> E-Mail: ist...@home.com
>
> Want to trade rare mp3s? I have Sloan, 160 Blur, Oasis, etc.
> If you have a rare track on CD you can make an mp3 easily.
> I am interested in all sorts of bands.
>
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Josh Drury
>
> >Christ.
>
> "hey, don't talk about jesus that way."
>
> :)
>
And Ian, you didn't answer my question.
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Zebra Corp.
faithlessth...@yahoo.com wrote:
>ok, have you heard the new live album or are you just talking blindly about
>something you have never heard?
Yes.
> sloan sounds nothing like kiss, even if thats
>who they are trying to be. they will never sound like a tribute band. i don't
I just heard *another* song on the radio toady that they ripped off. There
are probably many that I don't know about.
>even listen to navy blues that much but i do know that it dose not sound like
>a tribute album. it is a rock album but it still sounds like sloan. the songs
>sound like sloan songs, not kiss songs. you also seam to be implying that
>what matters is that a band dosen't like bands that you think suck, not that
>they makes good music. sloan still make good albums and that is what matters
>to me. you are right that they are no longer the underdog indie band, whats
>wrong with that? all bands have to grow and move on. they are not supose to
>stay in the same place forever. sure it is fun to cheer for the underdog but
>you can't expect the bands you like to never move on. if this is not the
>sloan you once loved, move on. you have every right not to like them. i just
>find the reasons you gave silly.
Their music's still fine - but it may get bad. Soon. We'll see. The live
album was sure pathetic.
--
Zebra Corp., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Zebra Corp.
<umdr...@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
>LimeZinger wrote:
>>
>> >Christ.
>>
>> "hey, don't talk about jesus that way."
>>
>> :)
>>
>What goes around, comes around.
We were both kidding.
>And Ian, you didn't answer my question.
OK, what was it?
step...@starnet.ca
but because of people in the crowd throwing snowballs, they left early...
after only about 6 songs. But they did play a rendition of the Stones'
"Jumping Jack Flash".
It was a gas gas gasss.
-sd
DeuceMatt
>album is claimed to be the only live album that doesn't suck. It's
>ridiculous, after four 12-track albums, they release a 28-track live album
>of no new material.
What?!!! Ok, that is a totally stupid comment right there. I could go in a
3rd grader fashion and say "You haven't listened to every live album.", but I'm
not going to sink to your level. Actually there are quite a many great live
albums out there. Way too many to list but I guess it you have an attitude like
yours that all live albums suck, then you'll never experience this joy of
hearing them. Oh yeah about the KISS thing. KISS is bar none the greatest
band in rock history so, it is now wonder that Sloan finds inspiration in their
music. It is not uncommon. Many,many artists find inspiration in KISS and
cite them as an influence, even playing similar music. Oh well.
---Matt
Josh Drury
>
> >And Ian, you didn't answer my question.
>
> OK, what was it?
Okay, in a revised version, the question is:
What is the point of your negative posts on this newsgroup?
Josh Drury
Winnipeg
Zebra Corp.
<umdr...@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
To get other peoples' opinions on the matter. I fully expect when I write
these things, and am prepared for, people whining about my whining. I
wanted somebody to agree with me or convince me of the opposite. Both
happened, but it was interspersed with all sorts of idiocy. That's the
internet for you.
Zebra Corp.
deuc...@aol.com (DeuceMatt) wrote:
>>There are two rules about live albums: 1) they always suck, 2) every live
>>album is claimed to be the only live album that doesn't suck. It's
>>ridiculous, after four 12-track albums, they release a 28-track live album
>>of no new material.
>
>What?!!! Ok, that is a totally stupid comment right there. I could go in a
>3rd grader fashion and say "You haven't listened to every live album.", but I'm
>not going to sink to your level.
Good thing that comment was in quotes, or you have said it and not thought it!
>Actually there are quite a many great live
>albums out there. Way too many to list but I guess it you have an attitude like
>yours that all live albums suck, then you'll never experience this joy of
>hearing them. Oh yeah about the KISS thing. KISS is bar none the greatest
>band in rock history so, it is now wonder that Sloan finds inspiration in their
>music.
Goodbye, credibility.