Concern

[cailinsdad]

Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
rock in a crosspost?

I never thought we would go out this way.

Listening to:

The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicenter
Necros Christos - Doom of the Occult
Rising - To Solemn Ash
Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
Wicked Minds - Witchflower
Pilgrim - Misery Wizard
Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned
Morbus Chron - Sleepers in the Rift

[dclizardking]

Seems that way at the moment I'm afraid. Anyway here's my recent
spins.

Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned

Crippled Black Phoenix - (Mankind) The Crafty Ape
Year of the Goat - Lucem Ferre
Unisonic - Ignition
Wrathchild - Stakkattakktwo
Witchfinder General - Friends of Hell
Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics/ Black Masses/ Witchcult Today/
Dopethrone
Purson - BBC Session
Age of Taurus - In the Days of the Taurean Empire
Wounded Kings - In the Chapel of the Black Hand
Drudkh - Eternal Turn of the Wheel
Christian Mistress - Possession

[tom b]

Well, to be fair, you all just haven't been posting any alternative,
so the steering committee is whoever is posting, and a large part of
my playing music lately has been "the classics" as they say.

But I did bust out Terrible Certainty today, and that's not a "classic
rock" album. Classic, German division Thrash, yes.

That CBP thing did sound cool when I was playing it. OG also sounded
good.

The EW albums, I have Dopethrone and Black Masses. Between the two
I've managed about 10 total listens. Perhaps just not my cup of tea, I
guess.

Either of you have anything to say about Flotsam and Jetsam's The
Cold?

Tom

[cailinsdad]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:36:53 -0800 (PST), dclizardking
<dcliza...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 22, 3:52 am, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
>> rock in a crosspost?
>>
>> I never thought we would go out this way.
>>
>> Listening to:
>>
>> The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicenter
>> Necros Christos - Doom of the Occult
>> Rising - To Solemn Ash
>> Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
>> Wicked Minds - Witchflower
>> Pilgrim - Misery Wizard
>> Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned
>> Morbus Chron - Sleepers in the Rift
>
>Seems that way at the moment I'm afraid. Anyway here's my recent
>spins.
>
>Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned

This is great.

>Crippled Black Phoenix - (Mankind) The Crafty Ape

I have a big pile of this band to listen to. I have not heard them
yet.

>Year of the Goat - Lucem Ferre
>Unisonic - Ignition
>Wrathchild - Stakkattakktwo
>Witchfinder General - Friends of Hell
>Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics/ Black Masses/ Witchcult Today/
>Dopethrone
>Purson - BBC Session
>Age of Taurus - In the Days of the Taurean Empire

This looks interesting. It's a demo?

>Wounded Kings - In the Chapel of the Black Hand
>Drudkh - Eternal Turn of the Wheel

I didn't realize this was coming out so soon.

>Christian Mistress - Possession

Looking forward to hearing this as well. The first one caught me off
guard and I'm hearing this one is even better.

[cailinsdad]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:11:31 -0800 (PST), tom b
<tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Either of you have anything to say about Flotsam and Jetsam's The
>Cold?

I might give it a listen but Flotsam and Jetsam have never been my
thing.

[Soze]

>"cailinsdad" wrote in message
>news:f6o8k71brbpq1qgjo...@4ax.com...

>Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
>rock in a crosspost?

It's now being used as an experiment into Tom's senility and madness.

>I never thought we would go out this way.

For some reason I'm not seeing posts anymore. Neither Tom nor DC's turn up
on my news feed unless someone else replies. Considering we appear to have
lost e, E and Noodle for good the place is floundering.

>Listening to:

>The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicenter
>Necros Christos - Doom of the Occult
>Rising - To Solemn Ash
>Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
>Wicked Minds - Witchflower
>Pilgrim - Misery Wizard
>Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned
>Morbus Chron - Sleepers in the Rift

I really like the Orange Goblin, not normally my sort of thing. The Morbus
Chron is great Autopsy worship, I actually preferred it to the real thing
last year.

[Soze]

"cailinsdad" wrote in message
news:1vabk7d7to41d71dj...@4ax.com...

>Unisonic - Ignition

I really like this, looking forward to the new album. I quite liked the
cheesy new Freedom Call album too if you're in the mood for some more
Helloween worship. Although there were 2 *really* bad songs on it.

>Wounded Kings - In the Chapel of the Black Hand
>Drudkh - Eternal Turn of the Wheel

>Christian Mistress - Possession

I really should listen to TWK, a very good friend of mine plays bass for
them now. It's getting some rave reviews and they're about to start touring
Europe with it. The new Drudkh is heaps better than the last one and I liked
Christian Mistress a lot. The new Sigh album has been despatched by amazon,
2 weeks before it's release date, so I'm rather excited.

Other than the new Alcest album there's been very little from 2012 I've
bothered to listen to more than once. I did like the new Van Halen a lot
more than I expected and the latest CoC is pretty good.

[TJ Xenos]

Korpiklaani - Tales Along this Road CD
Saint Vitus - S/T CD
Spirit Ritual - S/t CD
Sunn O))) - Monoliths and Dimensions CD
Type O Negative - Slow Deep and Hard CD
Profanatica - Enemy of Virtue 2xCD
Slaughter - Strappado + Live CD
Witchery - Don't Fear the Reaper CD
Panzerbastard - Gods Thugs and Madmen 10"
Varukers - Murder/Nothings Changed CD
Man is the Bastard - DIYCD
Man Is the Bastard - Sum of the Men "The Brutality Continues" CD
Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime CD
Lovely Lads - The Best You've Got CD (oi)
Jimmy Cliff - The Harder they Come OST 2xCD
DJ Spooky - Riddim Come Forward 2xCD (mix from the trojan vaults)
Jacka & Laroo - Neva Be the Same: 20 Bricks Season One CD (Bay Area
thug rap)
Mac Dre - Best of Vol 2 2xCD
Icey Hott - Mind Over Matter CD (90s houston gangsta rap)
DJ Storm - Drank Epidemic Vol 2 2xCD (southern mixtape plus slowed
version)
SLAB - 4.5 PLEX 2xCD (houston rap crew. slow and regular speed
versions)

[dclizardking]

I thought it was fairly dire to be honest. Not liked anything since No
Place For Disgrace, and even that was only ok. The debut
however...that was another matter altogether.

[dclizardking]

On Feb 23, 3:10 am, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:36:53 -0800 (PST), dclizardking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 22, 3:52 am, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
> >> rock in a crosspost?
>
> >> I never thought we would go out this way.
>
> >> Listening to:
>
> >> The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicenter
> >> Necros Christos - Doom of the Occult
> >> Rising - To Solemn Ash
> >> Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
> >> Wicked Minds - Witchflower
> >> Pilgrim - Misery Wizard
> >> Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned
> >> Morbus Chron - Sleepers in the Rift
>
> >Seems that way at the moment I'm afraid. Anyway here's my recent
> >spins.
>
> >Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned
>
> This is great.
>
> >Crippled Black Phoenix - (Mankind) The Crafty Ape
>
> I have a big pile of this band to listen to.  I have not heard them
> yet.

This is fantastic, very Floydian.

>
> >Year of the Goat - Lucem Ferre
> >Unisonic - Ignition
> >Wrathchild - Stakkattakktwo
> >Witchfinder General - Friends of Hell
> >Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics/ Black Masses/ Witchcult Today/
> >Dopethrone
> >Purson - BBC Session
> >Age of Taurus - In the Days of the Taurean Empire
>
> This looks interesting.  It's a demo?

Yes it is, and they're supporting Electric Wizard in London in March
so I decided to check them out...quite impressed.

[tom b]

On Feb 22, 10:12 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> I might give it a listen but Flotsam and Jetsam have never been my
> thing.

I loved the first album, liked the next few, and then, well, not so
much. I did get to see them live on their Quatro tour. It was a
smallish club tour, but a good night. Well, except for the guy who got
dragged out of the bar drunk.

Tom

He didn't have a good night.

[tom b]

On Feb 23, 12:37 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought it was fairly dire to be honest. Not liked anything since No
> Place For Disgrace, and even that was only ok. The debut
> however...that was another matter altogether.

I agree on the debut album. Great stuff.

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 23, 12:39 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >Crippled Black Phoenix - (Mankind) The Crafty Ape
>
> > I have a big pile of this band to listen to.  I have not heard them
> > yet.
>
> This is fantastic, very Floydian.

There are a couple Pink Floyd tribute bands playing in my neck of
the woods in the next few weeks. Both seem to get reasonably high
marks from Floyd fans. The one playing locally (in town) will cost
$25. Which is a high price to pay for a "tribute" band if you ask me.
Even though they're supposed to have a pretty big light show and so
on.
The songs I did listen to by CBP have stoked my interest. It's an
album I will be looking into getting sometime soon.

Tom

Do you rate "Camel" much?

[tom b]

On Feb 23, 2:03 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> It's now being used as an experiment into Tom's senility and madness.

I've got plenty of madness to go around.

> >I never thought we would go out this way.
>
> For some reason I'm not seeing posts anymore. Neither Tom nor DC's turn up
> on my news feed unless someone else replies. Considering we appear to have
> lost e, E and Noodle for good the place is floundering.

Noodle has been gone the longest. At least E is on facebook and we
can occasionally hear from him. However, e seems to have fallen off
the face of the planet.

Tom

Maybe someday

[tom b]

On Feb 23, 8:53 am, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:

> Type O Negative - Slow Deep and Hard CD

Did you get to liking this album much?

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 23, 12:39 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Looking forward to hearing this as well.  The first one caught me off
> > guard and I'm hearing this one is even better.

This week at work I played all the Opeth Studio albums (10). It is
quite a haul.

To be sure, Still Life to me has not aged well, and I probably like
Ghost Reveries a lot more now that I did the first couple times I
heard it.

To sum it up, though, I've probably listened to BWP about as much as
I have the first 4 albums combined. I have listened to Damnation
countless times. Watershed was my choice for aoty from it's year. BWP
probably would be aoty from it's year, although I probably did not
have an actual choice then. Damnation may well have taken it for it's
year as well.
Heritage is very good, but nudged out for that choice.
It's been just over a decade since I first heard the band, and I
still like what they're doing.

Tom

[TJ Xenos]

Love this album. I'm a huge Carnivore guy, never been much into Type
O. Was convinced to give this a shot on the strength of most of it
being written for an unrecorded 3rd Carnivore record. Lyrically a
very different (albeit still very dark and hateful) vibe, but
musically closer to Carnivore than to other Type O that I've heard
(and not liked)

[tom b]

On Feb 24, 7:23 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > Type O Negative - Slow Deep and Hard CD
>
> >   Did you get to liking this album much?
>
> > Tom
>
> Love this album.  I'm a huge Carnivore guy, never been much into Type
> O.  Was convinced to give this a shot on the strength of most of it
> being written for an unrecorded 3rd Carnivore record.  Lyrically a
> very different (albeit still very dark and hateful) vibe, but
> musically closer to Carnivore than to other Type O that I've heard
> (and not liked)

Yep, it does have quite a vibe. Ever think you might listen to one
or two of their other albums?

Tom

NP=Darkthrone-Circle the Wagons.

Did they release another album after this I missed?

[tom b]

On Feb 22, 4:36 am, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 22, 3:52 am, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

I was out and about today and found a CD of Tori Amos, for $1, mind
you. The Beekeeper?

Listening, got any thoughts about it?

I also found Led Zeppelin IV at the same place for $1. Which I've
heard the album lots of times, and used to have it years ago, so I
went ahead and got it.

Tom

[towelie]

"tom b" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fe23b46c-7c7e-481f...@f2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

> On Feb 22, 4:36 am, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 22, 3:52 am, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> I was out and about today and found a CD of Tori Amos, for $1, mind
> you. The Beekeeper?
>
> Listening, got any thoughts about it?

Not as good as the first four.

[tom b]

> >  I was out and about today and found a CD of Tori Amos, for $1, mind
> > you. The Beekeeper?
>
> >  Listening, got any thoughts about it?
>
> Not as good as the first four.

But for $1 I can't be too put off by it. The initial listen has a
few songs I single out for further plays.

Tom

If I could find the other 3 of the first 4 for $1 each I'd have it
made.

[TJ Xenos]

I've heard most of the othe stuff, that was why I was so off-put by
them to begin with and only got into this album because it was
supposed to sound like carnivore and I wasn't familiar with it.

[TJ Xenos]

Had some retail therapy last weekend, just got around to listening to/
reading it all and posting it....

Orange Goblin - S/T 5xCD Box Set (first 5 albums with bonus tracks.
Never really bothered to check these guys out, but couldn't pass at
$34.99 Good stoner/doom stuff as to be expected on rise above)
Toxic Holocaust - Gravelord 7"
Bloodcum - Demo 12"
Tankard - Alcaholic Metal 2xLP (Both demos)
Order of the Vulture - Death Disciple 12" (black thrash)
Filthy Christians - Mean LP
Anal Cunt - Wearing Out Our Welcome 1 Sided LP
Glorious Times - BOOK (Death Metal photo book broken up by band with
photos and anecdotes in lieu of the standard biography. Also includes
many thrash and crossover bands)
GASH/Cleansing Wave - split 7" one sided flexi (GISM style HC from
boston and crust from worcester)
Sacrilege - Live In Leeds/Disaster = Live In Newcastle 8/14/91 TAPE +
Negative Insight #1 Zine (Zine includes interviews with Disaster,
Varukers, Sacrilege)
Bruisers - In the Pit: Live and Rare CD (US Oi!)
Ducky Boys - Chasing the Ghost CD (punky rock)
Craig Finn - Clear Heart Full Eyes CD (singer from the hold steady
solo album)
Alex Chilton - Free Again The "1970" Sesions CD (pre-Big Star)
Dirtbombs - Horndog Fest CD (Garage)
Humpers/Sweet Zeros - 19th Nervous Breakdown/Rehab 45 (Garage)
Teengenerate - VMLive #22 11/2/95 7" (Japanese Garage live in Chicago)
Andre Williams - Daddy Rolling Stone/Gin 45 (legendary bluesman with
garage backing)
Bootsy Collins - Aaah The Name Is Bootsy CD
Juan Atkins - 20 years 1985-2005 2xCD (Detroit Techno pioneer
anthology)
Last Poets - Last Poets/This Is Madness 2xCD

[tom b]

On Feb 26, 8:00 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:

> I've heard most of the othe stuff, that was why I was so off-put by
> them to begin with and only got into this album because it was
> supposed to sound like carnivore and I wasn't familiar with it.

Sometimes hearing one album by a band that you never liked before,
and then liking it can cause you to look at the band differently and
actually maybe like some of their other stuff.

Tom

[cailinsdad]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:03:35 -0000, "Soze"
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>>"cailinsdad" wrote in message
>>news:f6o8k71brbpq1qgjo...@4ax.com...
>
>>Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
>>rock in a crosspost?
>
>It's now being used as an experiment into Tom's senility and madness.

This is going to turn into The Human Centipede.

>>I never thought we would go out this way.
>
>For some reason I'm not seeing posts anymore. Neither Tom nor DC's turn up
>on my news feed unless someone else replies. Considering we appear to have
>lost e, E and Noodle for good the place is floundering.

Hope that's not the case but life catches up with all of us from time
to time. I have had a hard time popping in here recently because of
kids and work but I always check in. Am I supposed to read
Blabbermouth to figure out what metal to listen to?

>>Listening to:
>
>>The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicenter
>>Necros Christos - Doom of the Occult
>>Rising - To Solemn Ash
>>Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
>>Wicked Minds - Witchflower
>>Pilgrim - Misery Wizard
>>Orange Goblin - A Eulogy for the Damned
>>Morbus Chron - Sleepers in the Rift
>
>I really like the Orange Goblin, not normally my sort of thing. The Morbus
>Chron is great Autopsy worship, I actually preferred it to the real thing
>last year.

Sleepers is a great album but I thought last years Autopsy was one of
the best albums of the year.

[cailinsdad]

Doomsday was good but I thought the high point for the second album
was the rowdy cover of Saturday Nights All Right for Fighting.
Everything after just bored me. I will check out the new one if it
doesn't cost me any more than my time.

[cailinsdad]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:53:59 -0800 (PST), TJ Xenos <talv...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Saint Vitus - S/T CD

New one coming... Lillie: F-65

[cailinsdad]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:14:13 -0800 (PST), TJ Xenos <talv...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Glorious Times - BOOK (Death Metal photo book broken up by band with
>photos and anecdotes in lieu of the standard biography. Also includes
>many thrash and crossover bands)

Can you tell me who the publisher is? I want to order it and Amazon
does not list the pub and says "unknown binding".

Have your read Metalion's book?

http://www.amazon.com/Metalion-Slayer-Diaries-Jon-Kristiansen/dp/0979616344/ref=pd_sim_b_1

[TJ Xenos]

On Feb 27, 10:40 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:14:13 -0800 (PST), TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com>

> wrote:
>
> >Glorious Times - BOOK (Death Metal photo book broken up by band with
> >photos and anecdotes in lieu of the standard biography.  Also includes
> >many thrash and crossover bands)
>
> Can you tell me who the publisher is?  I want to order it and Amazon
> does not list the pub and says "unknown binding".

It's compiled by Alan Moses and Brian Pattison, there's no publisher
listed on the jacket. It's an 8.5/11 softbound full color book FWIW.

> Have your read Metalion's book?
>

> http://www.amazon.com/Metalion-Slayer-Diaries-Jon-Kristiansen/dp/0979...

I have Metalion's book, I got it last year sometime. I'm about 1/3 of
the way through. I just wish they'd translated some of the stuff from
the early issues into english.

[tom b]

On Feb 27, 10:29 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Hope that's not the case but life catches up with all of us from time
> to time.  I have had a hard time popping in here recently because of
> kids and work but I always check in.  Am I supposed to read
> Blabbermouth to figure out what metal to listen to?

I don't think that would be a great idea. Surely, they do cover a
lot of underground metal, but the user comments are whack.

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 27, 10:33 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> >Tom
>
> >He didn't have a good night.
>
> Doomsday was good but I thought the high point for the second album
> was the rowdy cover of Saturday Nights All Right for Fighting.
> Everything after just bored me.  I will check out the new one if it
> doesn't cost me any more than my time.

Surely The Cold has been posted on You Tube by someone.

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 27, 10:29 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> >>Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
> >>rock in a crosspost?

This week I've decided to play Manowar and Grave all week. Being a
difficult thing to decide which band has the silliest lyrical
content.

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 28, 5:00 pm, tom b <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   This week I've decided to play Manowar and Grave all week. Being a
> difficult thing to decide which band has the silliest lyrical
> content.

I hadn't heard Triumph of Steel or Louder Than Hell in many years.
One is quite self-indulgent, and the other is very bland.

As for the Grave side of the ledger, I believe my favorite album by
them is Back from the Grave. Just enough tongue in cheek humor and
just the right crunchy sound.

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 28, 5:00 pm, tom b <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   This week I've decided to play Manowar and Grave all week. Being a
> difficult thing to decide which band has the silliest lyrical
> content.

Another difficult thing was getting through Triumph of Steel, Louder
Than Hell and Warriors of the World.
TOS is self-indulgent, LTH is quite bland, and WotW has a few
experiments gone wrong, I think. As it is, it's been a long time since
I listened to any of the three. Usually with Manowar I play BH, IGR,
SotH, and GOW.

As for Grave, it's all good I guess. I think though, Back From the
Grave is most enjoyable.

That was 19 albums of my weekly playlist, and I am doubting I'll do
Manowar and Grave all week again.

Tom

No I did not ignore Hail to England on the ratings. BoD is an all time
classic.

[TJ Xenos]

Craft - Void CD
Blut Aus Nord - 777 Desanctification CD
Neurosis - Souls at Zero 2xLP
Neurosis - Enemy of the Sun 2xLP
Evile - Five Serpent's Teeth CD
Extreme Noise Terror - Phonophobia CD
Moderat Likvidation - Never Mind the Bootlegs CD
Blood For Blood - Spit My Last Breath CD
Blood For Blood - Revenge on Society CD
Black Flag - Damaged CD
Black Flag - My War CD
Black Flag - Slip It In CD
Hot Water Music - Forever and Counting CD
Lost Sounds - Blac Static LP
Ty Segall - Singles 2007-2010 LP
Deer Tick - Divine Providence CD
X Raided - Xorcist CD
C Bo - West Side Ryders 2 CD
JT The Bigga Figga - Who Grind Like Us CD
8 Ball - Lost (Slowed & Chopped by DJ Slow) 2xCD
V/A - Def Souf Presents Soufside So Screwed Vol 2 CD

[tom b]

On Mar 6, 10:44 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:

> Evile - Five Serpent's Teeth CD

Do you like this much? Seems a bit redundant to me.

> Black Flag - Damaged CD
> Black Flag - My War CD
> Black Flag - Slip It In CD

The only Black Flag album I remember is In My Head (I think that was
the title.)

Tom

[cailinsdad]

On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 19:44:51 -0800 (PST), TJ Xenos <talv...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Ty Segall - Singles 2007-2010 LP

My wife just made me start listening to him and I think he is great.

[tom b]

On Feb 21, 11:52 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
> rock in a crosspost?
>

> I never thought we would go out this way.

If you want to change this, you will need to post more often.

Tom

[cailinsdad]

Hey I have been popping in once a week! That is a lot better than I
did in 2011.

[towelie]

"tom b" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:2160066a-b604-49e0...@vs2g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

Dubstep: Good or bad? Discuss.

[tom b]

On Mar 13, 10:53 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> >Tom
>
> Hey I have been popping in once a week!  That is a lot better than I
> did in 2011.

I was reading this article about the music business, and the thrust
of the thing was that through legal downloading and such that music
has been selling more of late, and that bit-torrents and other online
download sites (not paid, hence illegal) have had reduced traffic
recently. That there are about 30% more independent artists out making
music and touring and such than there were just a few years ago.
If it's true, it's a good thing.
I wouldn't know about bit-torrents as I don't go to them.
I do know most bands anyone talks about here, you can find their
music on You Tube pretty easy. Used to be they were on myspace,
however, I've not been to myspace in the past year, as it is easier to
find stuff on Youtube.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 14, 12:05 am, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >  If you want to change this, you will need to post more often.
>
> Dubstep: Good or bad?  Discuss.

What's dubstep?

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 14, 12:05 am, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >  If you want to change this, you will need to post more often.
>
> Dubstep: Good or bad?  Discuss.

I am going to go with bad.

I don't know what it is, but I still think it's probably going to be
bad.

Tom

[towelie]

"tom b" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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If my proposed band gets off the ground, we'll probably release all of our
music for free online. We'll make CDs to sell to those who want to buy
them. I'd be stoked just to know that somebody liked our stuff well enough
to download it.

[towelie]

"tom b" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Good question. I've never gotten a straight answer. But it's what all the
kids are playing these days.

[tom b]

On Mar 14, 10:18 pm, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If my proposed band gets off the ground, we'll probably release all of our
> music for free online.  We'll make CDs to sell to those who want to buy
> them.  I'd be stoked just to know that somebody liked our stuff well enough
> to download it.

That would be cool. Yep, I've got fans on all the continents
listening to my music, right now. So there to that guidance counselor
who told me I'd never amount to much of anything if I stayed on this
path.
You could say something like that. I mean, if anyone actually told
you that you wouldn't amount to anything.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 14, 10:19 pm, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> Dubstep: Good or bad?  Discuss.
>
> >  What's dubstep?
>
> Good question.  I've never gotten a straight answer.  But it's what all the
> kids are playing these days.

So is it a band or a video game?

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 14, 12:05 am, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >  If you want to change this, you will need to post more often.
>
> Dubstep: Good or bad?  Discuss.

Apparently it's some sort of electronica type dance music. Surely no
one here is going to have any use for it. I want to thank our friends
across the pond for this crap as it hails from South London UK.
Couldn't you guys export something more useless for us to care about?

Why some in the US go crazy over royal weddings is beyond me.

Tom

wtf is the world coming to?

[cailinsdad]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:18:40 -0500, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>If my proposed band gets off the ground, we'll probably release all of our
>music for free online. We'll make CDs to sell to those who want to buy
>them. I'd be stoked just to know that somebody liked our stuff well enough
>to download it.

If every band did this I would still buy collectible printings of
vinyl for the stuff I like. Just something to consider. I download a
ton of music but I also buy vinyl from small distributers and at
shows.

If I like what a band does based on one illegal download, that will
often translate to a ticket purchase and something like a vinyl
purchase. I would say bands will see more of that money than if I
bought a CD or paid for an iTunes download.

I realize that does not scale for huge, commercial, artists. But I
really don't care about making them richer.

[cailinsdad]

Torrents are a mixed bag. Files are often of questionable quality and
it's a common distribution method for malware. That said, I fully
support the use of torrents if you go out of your way to find other
methods of supporting the band including making a legit download
purchase for music you decide to keep.

But torrents are not for the feint of heart and I think are a bad idea
for kids and typical computer users.

[cailinsdad]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:19:10 -0500, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Electronic dance music heavy in percussion and bass. Producers are
usually DJs.

[towelie]

"tom b" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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It's a supposed "genre" of music. I heard some alleged dubstep tonight, and
it just sounded like manic electronic music.

[tom b]

On Mar 15, 10:48 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> If I like what a band does based on one illegal download, that will
> often translate to a ticket purchase and something like a vinyl
> purchase.  I would say bands will see more of that money than if I
> bought a CD or paid for an iTunes download.
>
> I realize that does not scale for huge, commercial, artists.  But I
> really don't care about making them richer.

My .02 worth on this. I have heard a lot of bands over the past 10
or more years due to contact with all of you guys and your lists,
recommends and so on. It has translated into a lot of bought CD's.
Hell, some bands entire catalog in many cases. Sometimes it was a
simple You Tube listen (or myspace a few years back) to a couple songs
that made me decide.
However, without that, I'd probably not have bought many of the CD's
I have the past 10 years. So, if I had to wait until a local radio
station played any of the songs, or wait until some friend bought a CD
and I heard it, I'd be waiting still on probably 75% of my owned CD's
(all the stuff you see on my play lists)
So if some guy in a band says they don't like all the "free" music
on the internet, I can only say to him, "so how is someone supposed to
actually hear your music then?"
Before someone can ever become a fan of a band, ever buy an vinyl
album, CD, I-tunes download or any other paid way to hear a band,
they've gotta actually hear at least a song that makes them want to
hear more.
Since underground metal concerts just don't happen in my neck of the
woods, I don't get to happen on some band on a tour with other bands
and like them that way. In fact, I've never heard any of the bands I
like live in concert before hearing at least some of their music
before hand.

Tom

Maybe 10 total live concerts, but no more than 15.

[tom b]

On Mar 16, 2:40 am, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> Good question.  I've never gotten a straight answer.  But it's what all
> >> the
> >> kids are playing these days.
>
> >  So is it a band or a video game?
>
> It's a supposed "genre" of music.  I heard some alleged dubstep tonight, and
> it just sounded like manic electronic music.

I was going to say it sounded like crap, but yeah, manic electronic
music probably is as good a description as any.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 15, 10:53 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:

> But torrents are not for the feint of heart and I think are a bad idea
> for kids and typical computer users.

It's funny, because a guy who occasionally posts on AMJP, and maybe
here to, just posted about them on AMJP. I personally dislike them as
I know they are just skirting the laws.

Tom

[dclizardking]

We gave you Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon,
Motorhead, Venom, Raven, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Stones, The
Beatles, The Who, Cream, T-Rex, Yes, Genesis etc etc and you complain
about one little mistake?

[tom b]

On Mar 16, 7:20 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   Why some in the US go crazy over royal weddings is beyond me.
>
> > Tom
>
> > wtf is the world coming to?
>
> We gave you Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon,
> Motorhead, Venom, Raven, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Stones, The
> Beatles, The Who, Cream, T-Rex, Yes, Genesis etc etc and you complain
> about one little mistake?

You gave us the Darkness as well. And that really hurt.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 16, 7:20 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   Why some in the US go crazy over royal weddings is beyond me.
>
> > Tom
>
> > wtf is the world coming to?
>
> We gave you Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon,
> Motorhead, Venom, Raven, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Stones, The
> Beatles, The Who, Cream, T-Rex, Yes, Genesis etc etc and you complain
> about one little mistake?

We won't go into the heaps of worthless crap that the US produces in
slacker type bands, reality TV and so on. Our mistakes are legion, but
they're not my fault. I do not claim them.

Tom

AI, Glee, Dancing with the Stars, The Batcheler, I could go on..

[towelie]

"tom b" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Mar 16, 7:20 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Why some in the US go crazy over royal weddings is beyond me.
>>
>> > Tom
>>
>> > wtf is the world coming to?
>>
>> We gave you Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon,
>> Motorhead, Venom, Raven, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Stones, The
>> Beatles, The Who, Cream, T-Rex, Yes, Genesis etc etc and you complain
>> about one little mistake?
>
> We won't go into the heaps of worthless crap that the US produces in
> slacker type bands, reality TV and so on. Our mistakes are legion, but
> they're not my fault. I do not claim them.

The US has also produced some of the greatest bands of all time. The music
I listen to is about 45% American, 45% British, and 10% from other
countries.

[dclizardking]

The Darkness weren't that bad, they were just mistaken for a serious band when in reality they were a parody' albeit a more subtle one than Steel Panther.

[tom b]

On Mar 18, 6:02 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   You gave us the Darkness as well. And that really hurt.
>
> > Tom
>
> The Darkness weren't that bad, they were just mistaken for a serious band when in reality they were a parody' albeit a more subtle one than Steel Panther.

Eh, perhaps. I still hated it from the first time I heard it.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 18, 3:08 pm, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >  We won't go into the heaps of worthless crap that the US produces in
> > slacker type bands, reality TV and so on. Our mistakes are legion, but
> > they're not my fault. I do not claim them.
>
> The US has also produced some of the greatest bands of all time.  The music
> I listen to is about 45% American, 45% British, and 10% from other
> countries.

Hmm. I can't really pin this down that quickly. I do listen to a lot
of bands from Norway, Finland and especially Sweden. Although truth be
told, I really don't care where the band comes from, so long as I like
the music.
I am having a hard time thinking of a newer band from the US that I
like a lot.
I can't really say Mastodon is a new band, but I believe they're all
from the US. Hard to call them a new band when they've been putting
out albums for, what 10 years now?
But, they probably are my favorite band from the US at this time.

Tom

Are they really from the US?

[tom b]

On Mar 18, 3:08 pm, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The US has also produced some of the greatest bands of all time.  The music
> I listen to is about 45% American, 45% British, and 10% from other
> countries.

A hard guess...

40% Sweden, Norway, Finland. 35% rest of Eurozone. 20% American, 5%
odds and sods various.

I'm probably way off though, as some bands I am not sure where they
really reside.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 22, 5:26 pm, tom b <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A hard guess...
>
>   40% Sweden, Norway, Finland. 35% rest of Eurozone. 20% American, 5%
> odds and sods various.
>
> I'm probably way off though, as some bands I am not sure where they
> really reside.
>
> Tom

I'd say half the Eurozone ones are British.

Tom

[TJ Xenos]

tom b wrote:
> On Mar 6, 10:44 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Evile - Five Serpent's Teeth CD
>
> Do you like this much? Seems a bit redundant to me.

I think it kinda sucks. Do not like this band. 3 strikes yer out.

[tom b]

On Mar 23, 1:09 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:

> tom b wrote:

> >   Do you like this much? Seems a bit redundant to me.
>
> I think it kinda sucks. Do not like this band. 3 strikes yer out.

The biggest problem I had with it is that it feels so redundant.
There really is no reason for it to be.

Tom

[tom b]

On Feb 23, 3:03 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> For some reason I'm not seeing posts anymore. Neither Tom nor DC's turn up
> on my news feed unless someone else replies. Considering we appear to have
> lost e, E and Noodle for good the place is floundering.

> I really like the Orange Goblin, not normally my sort of thing. The Morbus
> Chron is great Autopsy worship, I actually preferred it to the real thing
> last year.

I guess Ian's not been seeing my posts, but for the record, his
constant playing of Alcest in the past couple years made me decide to
go out and seek the band out. So to speak.

Anyway I have to say I have quite well enjoyed their latest album.
Even though it's all French to me. (literally all the lyrics are in
French) Usually not being able to tell what they're saying is a bad
thing. I may not really want to know what he's going on about if I
actually looked up the translations.

Tom

[tom b]

On Mar 16, 7:20 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We gave you Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon,
> Motorhead, Venom, Raven, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Stones, The
> Beatles, The Who, Cream, T-Rex, Yes, Genesis etc etc and you complain
> about one little mistake?

The original version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwGMLncumM

And a most unexpected piano cover version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVFLo5-8Bwg&feature=related

[tom b]

On Mar 18, 6:02 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   You gave us the Darkness as well. And that really hurt.
>
> > Tom
>
> The Darkness weren't that bad, they were just mistaken for a serious band when in reality they were a parody' albeit a more subtle one than Steel Panther.

While out tonight I was listened to the radio in the car, and they
actually played a Testament song. True, it was Dee Snider's House of
Hair show, so it wasn't the regular DJ's playing it.
And it was "Return to Serenity" not Over the Wall or something way
heavier from The Legacy.

Tom

But it was Testament, and I don't recall ever hearing them on the
radio before. (not counting college radio)

[tom b]

> > I really like the Orange Goblin, not normally my sort of thing. The Morbus
> > Chron is great Autopsy worship, I actually preferred it to the real thing
> > last year.
>
>   I guess Ian's not been seeing my posts, but for the record, his
> constant playing of Alcest in the past couple years made me decide to
> go out and seek the band out. So to speak.

I will state for the record, I am enjoying this Alcest album more
than most of what made my top 10 last year.
If nothing else comes out this year that strikes my fancy, it will
be aoty.
As for all the straight ahead thrash/death/black and any other type
of metal that will come out and be like a battering ram for the full
length of the album, and will get massive love from most metal heads,
I'm just not wired that way anymore. Simply put, you can smash
anything with a sledge hammer. Far more impressive to floor someone
with a touch almost like a feather.

Tom

[SG]

On Mar 13, 9:05 pm, "towelie" <wat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "tom b" <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2160066a-b604-49e0...@vs2g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 21, 11:52 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >> Has our grouped devolved into Tom talking to himself about classic
> >> rock in a crosspost?
>
> >> I never thought we would go out this way.

>
> >  If you want to change this, you will need to post more often.
>
> Dubstep: Good or bad?  Discuss.

Good and bad. Some of it I find interesting. It's the new rave thang,
I guess.

[tom b]

On Mar 26, 8:46 pm, SG <sgman0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Dubstep: Good or bad?  Discuss.
>
> Good and bad. Some of it I find interesting. It's the new rave thang,
> I guess.

So, hippest guy in the room, eh?

Tom

I ignore trends.

[SG]

Is it hip to ignore trends?

[dclizardking]

It's hip to be square though.

[tom b]

On Mar 28, 10:14 am, SG <sgman0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   So, hippest guy in the room, eh?
>
> > Tom
>
> > I ignore trends.
>
> Is it hip to ignore trends?

Not really.

Tom

Until Towelie mentioned Dubstep, I'd never heard the term.

[tom b]

On Mar 28, 5:06 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's hip to be square though.

Yeah, what he said, he of Angel Witch t-shirt wearing guys.

Tom