Checkerboard=ska?
sKaNNaBis!
just educate em,,,,let em know where de checkers come from an what theyre all
about. Thats if yuh know. Yuh do know, don't yuh? I mean, if theyre givin yuh
ignorance, give em education...show em roots natty ska
megan wrote:
> hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard is
> SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
>
> "Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
> nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
>
> "I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
> (i was wearing checkered tights)
>
> This is SO obnoxious!!
>
> Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers. Does
> anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
>
> grrrr
>
> Super Megan.
megan
Michael Caputo
I like to say "look, it's rude" and point to the brown and cream checked
floor at a local pizza place.
I started doing this (well, many of us started doing this) because one of
our friends thinks anyone wearing white and black is a "rudie"... of
course all of us are joking... but its fun to act ignorant.
Mike Caputo
megan (ches...@fgi.net) wrote:
: hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard is
: This is SO obnoxious!!
: grrrr
: Super Megan.
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XReiXHinoX
Yeah, the trendy girls at my school last year thought it was "cute" that I
dressed with a "ska" theme...of course they only started to pay attention to me
and compliment my clothes right after I hooked up with my boyfriend, whom
they'd been fawning over since he was a ::annoying giggle:: "rudeboy"... I wore
a black and white striped shirt and the whole day I was complimented on my
"ska" shirt. ::sigh:: Rather annoying, isn't it?
-Hino Rei
GENO SNYDER
-> hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything
-> checkerboard is SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
->
-> "Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
-> nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
->
-> "I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
-> (i was wearing checkered tights)
->
-> This is SO obnoxious!!
->
-> Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers.
-> Does anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
->
-> grrrr
->
-> Super Megan.
i agree. checkers. blah. theyre stupid. its stupid to pu thtem together
with ska. i dont MIND checkers per se, but they fit a lot better with
the whole diner thing hatn with fucking ska. two tone made a mess of a
lot of things and checkers are one.
-Geno
UncleFunkl
i put checkers around the bottom part of my chucks cuz i like checkers.. but i
like ska as well.. but its not like i go around sayin "look! my chucks are
SKA!" thats just cheesy. nuthin can be ska cept the music. people are silly.
lauren
SHARPOWER
I am SKA
cheers,
cameron
SkaNerd76
>
>I am SKA
>cheers,
>cameron
>
>
>
>
gee cameron, i didn't know you were covered in checkers . . . eeewww!! {:p
-kim
SHARPOWER
>gee cameron, i didn't know you were covered in checkers . . . eeewww!! {:p
>-kim
I know you like it kim!!!
cheers,
Cameron
leigh
Here's the worst of this crap: I went to Portland, Maine, to see the
state's second ska show since August and while there I checked out the
offerings at the Maine Mall. At one of those chain teeny bop shops right
next to the Hanson baby tees they had shirts with "ska" and a
checkerboard background emblazoned across the front of them. I cringed,
but was thankful that at least the design was comparatively tasteful and
reflected on all the good points regarding ska's surge in popularity.
Then I went to the show. Guess how many people turned up? Fewer than 30.
True, it wasn't well publicised, but I still find it depressing that so
many people would be willing to adopt the look, but so few actually know
or care anything about the music.
Leigh
megan wrote:
>
> hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard is
> SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
>
> "Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
> nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
>
> "I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
> (i was wearing checkered tights)
>
> This is SO obnoxious!!
>
> Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers. Does
> anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
>
> grrrr
>
> Super Megan.
Morgan Coe
SHARPOWER wrote:
> I am SKA
> cheers,
> cameron
Then you've got a lot to fuckin' answer for, these days.
Morgan.
Ska Oreo
> I am SKA
> cheers,
> cameron
so YOU'RE the guy my sister hates.....
well that clears everything up then.
- pasha
ZeroHero
megan wrote in message <01bd0116$73d83760$61b995d0@default>...
>hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard is
>SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
>
>"Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
>nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
>
>"I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
>(i was wearing checkered tights)
>
>This is SO obnoxious!!
>
>Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers. Does
>anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
>
>grrrr
>
>Super Megan.
I wish more than 5 people at my school ever even heard of the word ska.
-ZeroHero
Mihlfried
Yeah its actually getting kinda funny, though I gotta admit I did start
noticing b/w checkers more often on people and things after I found out about
the whole 2-tone thing a couple years ago. Oh come on admit it, you did too
haha...
Ah well...but im still not sure is NASCAR ska, i mean it has b/w checkerboard
and does almost have the "ska" word in it :) (*sarcasm for all you here who
can't tell the difference...*)
C-ya,
Adam
INTRO JAX
Checkerboards do have a lot to do with SKA-especially 2-Tone, hince the name
2-Tone. The whole meaning behind the 2-Tone checkerboard is to represent black
and white Unity. That's why I sport the checkerboard on my bookbags, and my
clothes and things like that. The Special, Selecter and the 2-Tone record label
used the checkerboard a lot.
But I do find it more than moronic that people who don't even like ska or know
the meaning behind anything relationg to Ska, insist on wearing checkerboards
on their bags and stuff. You should see those Trends at my school it's
disgusting.
But honestly. I don't find the checkerboards dumb or anything like that,
because to me- it represents Unity and the Two-Tone generation both of which I
have my heart in.
Rude For Life- Cheyla
GENO SNYDER
-> Checkerboards do have a lot to do with SKA-especially 2-Tone, hince
-> the name 2-Tone. The whole meaning behind the 2-Tone checkerboard is
-> to represent black and white Unity. That's why I sport the
-> checkerboard on my bookbags, and my clothes and things like that. The
-> Special, Selecter and the 2-Tone record label used the checkerboard a
-> lot.
-> But I do find it more than moronic that people who don't even like
-> ska or know the meaning behind anything relationg to Ska, insist on
-> wearing checkerboards on their bags and stuff. You should see those
-> Trends at my school it's disgusting.
-> But honestly. I don't find the checkerboards dumb or anything like
-> that, because to me- it represents Unity and the Two-Tone generation
-> both of which I have my heart in.
->
-> Rude For Life- Cheyla
thats good and nice. im glad you have your heart in it, because i have
nothing against anyone having their heart in something. but at the same
time.... it just erks me that everyone connects the two.. like the
original poster said "uh, checkers are "ska" "..it just seems kind of
silly to me. in my own opinion, checkers are nice in diners and such,
but as a fashion statment, which is what it means to most people, its
just silly.
-Geno
ODChasSOUL
>thats good and nice. im glad you have your heart in it, because i have
>nothing against anyone having their heart in something. but at the same
>time.... it just erks me that everyone connects the two.. like the
>original poster said "uh, checkers are "ska" "..it just seems kind of
>silly to me. in my own opinion, checkers are nice in diners and such,
>but as a fashion statment, which is what it means to most people, its
>just silly.
> -Geno
id have to agree with you here, kids just look dumb with checkers painted on
their shoes and bags and stuff.
can we say t-a-c-k-y?
what about style? doesnt anyone care about stlye anymore ?? {sniff}
when it comes down to it, ska isnt about unity. i mean, granted, they did all
that stuff in two tone.. ups to them! but ska is dancing music. that was its
original intent. thats what its all about to me.
unity is great, but at the same time, when connected with ska, its a joke. kids
go around talkin about unity this and unity that, then they talk shit about ppl
at shows, or whatever. which is fine. i dont care. just dont try and connect
the two.
cheerio
-odcbrandie
Sara P Kyman
my question of the day:)
is there a difference between the ska scene on the west coast and east
coast?????
Im in mass. now for college,but im from hawaii, and i have seen a
marked difference in the two scenes. It kinda caught me off guard at 1st.
what do u think?????
Chad79
megan wrote:
>
> hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard
is
> SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
>
> "Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
> nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
>
> "I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
> (i was wearing checkered tights)
>
> This is SO obnoxious!!
>
> Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers. Does
> anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
>
> grrrr
>
> Super Megan.
I agree, not everything that is checkerboard means ska, but there is a
undeniable connection between the two. The design traditionally means
unity between black and white. A friend of mine who loves ska wore a black
and white checkered tux to the prom. I thought it was cool. I put a
checkerboard design on my bass guitar. It looks cool. It shows a
connection to ska music, and I am proud of it. No, it doesn't make it a
"ska" guitar, but I do think you need to lighten up a bit when it come to
this trivial issue.
Chad
BCora713
Being an east coast guy, I'd have to say there's a difference. The ska show on
my college's radio station was just talking about this last night. I'm not
very familiar with the lesser known west coast bands, but from what I've heard
of the commercial ones (RBF, Save Ferris, Buck-O-Nine, ect.) there horns seem
more pronounced. I'm not saying that east coast guitars overpower the horns,
but it seems more more mellow to me. But, of course, that's generalizing on my
part. There's extemes on both ends. As long as you like what you hear, it
shouldn't matter what you listen to. I'd hate for ska to become and east-west
coast thing like what's happened to rap and hip hop.
Skank On!
-Brian Corasaniti
Brixton84
>my question of the day:)
>coast?????
> Im in mass. now for college,but im from hawaii, and i have seen a
>marked difference in the two scenes. It kinda caught me off guard at 1st.
>what do u think?????
>
>
these days, the few i can withstand being hepcat,mobtown and ocean11...most
west coast bands are pretty commercialized...its fairly sick..but i dont mind
because it's only a phase =oD
East coast on the other hand has its sour grapes but also has some tremendous
bands...especially in the new england area...east coast bands dont sound so
dubbed or cheesy...EST,Checkered Cabs, King7, Inspecter7,Notchoma...they know
the roots...
--------------------EAST COAST BABY----------------------
Ska Oreo
>>my question of the day:)
>> is there a difference between the ska scene on the west coast and east
>>coast?????
>> Im in mass. now for college,but im from hawaii, and i have seen a
>>marked difference in the two scenes. It kinda caught me off guard at 1st.
>>what do u think?????
>>
i'll throw my two cents into the pot now. i live in washington state, and the
ska scene is kind of..... nonexistent in a lot of places. i mean, they have
shows, but a lot of the people that i see show up arrive in whatever they were
wearing before...like wife-beaters (for both guys and girls) and jnco's. here
(and in oregon too?) more people seem to take pride in being with the swing
scene... i've been to several shows where i've been one of maybe 5 or 6 people
wearing a suit...which is fine if it's ska-punk, but if it's a trad band, it
kind of makes me wonder if they just do it for something to do, or if they just
don't want to bother with dressing with "any style" (it sounds bad, but i'll
use it for lack of soemthing better)
one commercialized band that i know of in the pacific northwest that still has
a really good sound is the cherry poppin daddies. they're more swing-ish
sounding then ska a lot of the time though.
something else that i've noticed is that i've only heard of 2 washington ska
bands that played something besides trad ska or "standard 3rd wave". those 2
being Black Happy (a kind of ska-puk/ska-core band? i dunno how to describe
them), and the jerks..which are adding horns and getting slightly more
2-tone-ish? (they do a few specials covers). if you want specific
instrumentation differences, you might want to talk to lance, from engine 54
(oly,wa trad ska, and one of my two favs from the area. the other being
franceska, another trad band).
down in cali, i'm sure the scene is different , but here, well, you've read
what i have to say....
ciao!
- pasha
Mike Acheson
In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.971212...@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>,
Sara P Kyman <spk...@mtholyoke.edu> wrote:
> my question of the day:)
> is there a difference between the ska scene on the west coast and east
> coast?????
> Im in mass. now for college,but im from hawaii, and i have seen a
> marked difference in the two scenes. It kinda caught me off guard at 1st.
> what do u think?????
id say there definitely is a big difference. on the surface, i like to
rant about how west coast sucks, which is partyl true, but not 100% true.
on the one hand, the west coast has ALL of the really shitty poppy bands,
like RBF,save ferris,aquabats,etc, the list could go on forever. however
thre ARE a few kickass bands from cali, like Hepcat (who id consider to be
the best modern ska band), ocean 11, mobtown, etc.
as far as the east coast goes, i think we have more quality bands( like
the slackers,allstonians,orange street,deionn knibb, and hell, the
skatalites are based in NYC now, which is pretty cool). however, we have
CT, which for some reason seems to spawn tons of bands that make my ears
wanna bleed!!
so, uh yeah....both coasts have some good bands, and lots of shitty
bands...i still like the east coast better tho, guess im just biased :)
oh yeah, all in all the east is the best, considering the west has no good
punk or Oi! bands. cheers
-mike
--
Mach...@student.umass.edu
"Born and bred in the USA, we're proud of what we are, we're American made"
Darren Pakravan
BCora713 wrote:
>
> > is there a difference between the ska scene on the west coast and east
> >coast?????
> > Im in mass. now for college,but im from hawaii, and i have seen a
> >marked difference in the two scenes. It kinda caught me off guard at 1st.
> >what do u think?????
>
> my college's radio station was just talking about this last night. I'm not
> very familiar with the lesser known west coast bands, but from what I've heard
> of the commercial ones (RBF, Save Ferris, Buck-O-Nine, ect.) there horns seem
> more pronounced. I'm not saying that east coast guitars overpower the horns,
> but it seems more more mellow to me. But, of course, that's generalizing on my
> part. There's extemes on both ends. As long as you like what you hear, it
> shouldn't matter what you listen to. I'd hate for ska to become and east-west
> coast thing like what's happened to rap and hip hop.
>
> Skank On!
> -Brian Corasaniti
The major difference I perceive is that W Coast bands are either
punk-ska deals (RBF, Home Grown, etc.) or neo-trad (Hepcat, See Spot)
while the E Coast is more stright-up third wavey stuff (Toasters, Johnny
Too Bad...) but this is by no means exclusive to either tyoe on either
coast.
--
Darren Pakravan
eldo...@nwu.edu
***this is my real email***
http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~dcp210/
Half-Assed Radio: http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~dcp210/halfass.htm
skaq...@hotmail.com
actually there is a diff. i'm on the west coast........theres a lot of
violence at shows and stuff.......hardly any rudies in fresno(where i'm
from)
it sucks. but oh well. what can you do?
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Anyone notice that only a very small portion of new ska music album art
involves any checkerboards at all?
Okay then,
Chadd
der...@erols.com
skaq...@hotmail.com wrote in message <881975805...@dejanews.com>...
>actually there is a diff. i'm on the west coast........theres a lot of
>violence at shows and stuff.......hardly any rudies in fresno(where i'm
>from)
>
west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
Luke
WRONG! Go to the Tune Inn (New Haven, CT) they have mostly ska-punk
sorta shows...even when we had the specials play there were a bunch of
ska-punk-core-kinda-stuff played. Hey, we have some trad, we have a lot
of ska-punk (which saddens me...) but you have Undercover SKA, dont you?
They're not skapunk...
Luke
Randall Flenn
who really cares about this topic, why does something always have to be
"in". my ass is checkerboarded from sitting on this shitty char, but you
don;t hear me bitching about it do you? infact...it feels kinda
nice....mmmmmmmmmmm...
Elliot Knowles
ekn...@tiger.towson.edu
probably doing something he shouldn't
-------------------------------------
it was only 13 inches not a mile you silly bastards:P
Ska Oreo
>west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
and i have YET to hear of a scooter rally in this half of the u.s.
(not saying you have to have scooters to be involved in ska of course .... or
that i'd be the person to know if their were rallies..)
ciao!
-pasha
"i found love in a graveyard,
at eleven fifty-nine.
waitin for the clock to strike,
to tell me it's time."
- easy big fella: "found love"
Pumpkin288
>
>and i have YET to hear of a scooter rally in this half of the u.s.
>(not saying you have to have scooters to be involved in ska of course .... or
>that i'd be the person to know if their were rallies..)
and what part of the us may that be?
kat...@webtv.net
There's no real ska scene here in Oregon at all. Everybody here either
claims to be a skin or they're too punk rock to care! The big thing here
(swing) is the Cherry Poppin Daddies probably because they've been
playing for 9 straight years around Eugene and Portland. Noone really
listens to trad here but to get on with it, besides the few exceptions,
I think that the west coast is just plain more pop!
Kathleen
"It don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing! -Duke Ellington
Ska Oreo
>and what part of the us may that be?
well, here's a hint, and a test of your american geography skills..
i live in washington state.
ciao!
- pasha
"sing, sing, sing , sing...
everybody's got to swing...!"
louis prima: "sing, sing, sing"
SeeSkaP8
Aarrggh! Enough!
West Coast Non "Ska-Punk" (in no particular order):
Hepcat, Jump With Joey, Ocean 11, Mobtown, Yeska, SeeSpot, The
Allentons, The Debonaires, The Dynamics, Let's Go Bowling, Unsteady,
Los Hooligans, Checkmate, The Blue Beat Stompers, Monkey, The Titans,
Undercover S.K.A., Mento Buru, The Israelites, Engine 54, Easy Big Fella,
Skiptooth, Skeeball, The Inspector, The Showens, and there are more
that aren't coming to me right now. These bands are in NO way "ska-punk".
The stuff that is most publicized from the west coast may be "ska-punk"
(Reel Big Fish, The Aquabats, Buck-O-Nine, Save Ferris, Dance Hall
Crashers), but to say that the west coast is "mostly ska-punk" would be
just plain silly.
BEP
Disclaimer: I am in no way advocating one coast over the other as I have
recently come to a new appreciation of east-coast ska, I am merely
correcting a poor encapsulation of the west.
Sara P Kyman
um, i happen to agree w/you that theres lots o non ska/punk west coast
bands out there..........but Save Ferris is NOT, i repeat, NOT, a skapunk
band!
On 13 Dec 1997, SeeSkaP8 wrote:
> Date: 13 Dec 1997 20:53:17 GMT
> From: SeeSkaP8 <sees...@aol.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
> Subject: Rewind!!!
NIILO SMEDS
DERBY9 wrote...
-> skaq...@hotmail.com wrote in message
-> <881975805...@dejanews.com>... >actually there is a diff. i'm
-> on the west coast........theres a lot of >violence at shows and
-> stuff.......hardly any rudies in fresno(where i'm >from)
-> >
->
-> west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
Bull fuckin shit. The west coast is where its AT for traditional.
SeeSpot, Hepcat, Ocean 11, Mobtown, Venice Shoreline Chris, BlueBeat
Stompers, Checkmate, Dynamics, Los Hooligans, Let's Go Bowling, Yeska,
Titans, Steady Ups, I'm afraid it's ALL about the west coast for
traditional ska, what's the east coast got? Scofflaws and Slackers are
the only ones I like. The rest all seem to be tinny post-2tone type
stuff. Don't mix up the orange county punkrock spawn with west coast
ska, fool boy. And to the original poster hell yeah there's a
difference. West Coast bands have the original sweet SOUND, not this
thin trebly whatnot from over the'ah. I must give it up to the Slackers
though, they have the SOUND.
Niilo
NIILO SMEDS
SKA OREO wrote...
-> and i have YET to hear of a scooter rally in this half of the u.s.
-> (not saying you have to have scooters to be involved in ska of course
-> .... or that i'd be the person to know if their were rallies..)
scooters schmooters! its all about the BANDS, which the west coast has
plenty of.
Niilo
NIILO SMEDS
BRIXTON84 wrote...
-> Well as you can alrready tell, there arent that many good west coast
-> ska bands these days, the few i can withstand being hepcat,mobtown
-> and ocean11...most west coast bands are pretty commercialized...its
-> fairly sick..but i dont mind because it's only a phase =oD
->
-> East coast on the other hand has its sour grapes but also has some
-> tremendous bands...especially in the new england area...east coast
-> bands dont sound so dubbed or cheesy...EST,Checkered Cabs, King7,
-> Inspecter7,Notchoma...they know the roots...
They know the roots?! The Checkered fuckin Cabs?? I mean, they aren't
skacore but they don't sound rootsy either, come on, seespot, dynamics,
steady ups, checkmate, mobtown ocean 11 and hepcat as you mentioned,
THEY play rootsy stuff. Do the Checkered Cabs sound ANYTHING like
anything you'd hear on a '60s record? helllll no. I haven't heard most
of those others except one inspecter 7 song which I don't remember so I
can't really say anything about htem, but I've heard a few checkered
cabs songs now and it was all typical thin east coast stuff.
Niilo
GENO SNYDER
-> >my question of the day:)
-> > is there a difference between the ska scene on the west coast
-> and east >coast?????
-> >Im in mass. now for college,but im from hawaii, and i have seen a
-> >marked difference in the two scenes. It kinda caught me off guard at
-> 1st. >what do u think?????
-> >
-> >
-> Well as you can alrready tell, there arent that many good west coast
-> ska bands these days, the few i can withstand being hepcat,mobtown
-> and ocean11...most west coast bands are pretty commercialized...its
-> fairly sick..but i dont mind because it's only a phase =oD
->
-> East coast on the other hand has its sour grapes but also has some
-> tremendous bands...especially in the new england area...east coast
-> bands dont sound so dubbed or cheesy...EST,Checkered Cabs, King7,
-> Inspecter7,Notchoma...they know the roots...
man, youve got a kind of weird point of view though. see, all of those
bands that you mention, we dont have as much exposure to out here.. and
you dont have exposure to ours. you know the big names and all that, but
you should really try to seek out more of the smaller roots based bands.
there are at least 20 good ones out here... a few that ive seen that
might be worth checking out if you can are the blue beat stompers,
debonaires, seespot.. how could you not like these guys. oh well, you
should give them all a try if you can find them on anything.
-geno
GENO SNYDER
-> actually there is a diff. i'm on the west coast........theres a lot
-> of violence at shows and stuff.......hardly any rudies in
-> fresno(where i'm from)
->
-> it sucks. but oh well. what can you do?
youre fresno?? cool. didnt think there were any others here. which bands
do you like that have been through here?
-Geno
GENO SNYDER
-> skaq...@hotmail.com wrote in message
-> <881975805...@dejanews.com>... >actually there is a diff. i'm
-> on the west coast........theres a lot of >violence at shows and
-> >
->
-> west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
thats bullshit. come out here and SEE how many roots bands there are.
-geno
NIILO SMEDS
MIKE ACHESON wrote...
-> id say there definitely is a big difference. on the surface, i like
-> to rant about how west coast sucks, which is partyl true, but not
-> 100% true. on the one hand, the west coast has ALL of the really
-> shitty poppy bands, like RBF,save ferris,aquabats,etc, the list could
-> go on forever. however thre ARE a few kickass bands from cali, like
-> Hepcat (who id consider to be the best modern ska band), ocean 11,
-> mobtown, etc.
-> as far as the east coast goes, i think we have more quality bands(
-> like the slackers,allstonians,orange street,deionn knibb, and hell,
-> the skatalites are based in NYC now, which is pretty cool). however,
-> we have CT, which for some reason seems to spawn tons of bands that
-> make my ears wanna bleed!!
-> so, uh yeah....both coasts have some good bands, and lots of shitty
-> bands...i still like the east coast better tho, guess im just biased
-> :) oh yeah, all in all the east is the best, considering the west has
-> no good punk or Oi! bands. cheers
punk or Oi! bands?!?! FUCK punk and oi! FUCK THAT! There hasn't been
a good punk record since Suffer, and before that other than bad religion
there hasn't been a damn thing since DK got weird, and there's never
been a good Oi band. And man man man, I know some people are probably
getting sick of my posts on this subject but I feel very strongly about
it; THE EAST COAST SOUND IS NOT VERY GOOD, the slackers, yeah they're
great, i like the scofflaws too, they're the best live ska band i've
ever seen, but the rest, c'mooooon, they don't compare to See Spot,
Ocean 11, Hepcat, the Steady Ups. Sure some o them orange county
punk-ska bands have made it onto MTV but that doesn't really have much
to do with the ska scene. That's a whole different world my friend.
When the Steady Ups get a record out you all are gonna be blown the fuck
away, they're the best unknown band in the fuckin WORLD.
Niilo
NIILO SMEDS
SARA P KYMAN wrote...
-> um, i happen to agree w/you that theres lots o non ska/punk west
-> coast bands out there..........but Save Ferris is NOT, i repeat, NOT,
-> a skapunk band!
What are they?
Niilo
Twonsu
this little "alt.ska.satire" goes out to Niilo, that loveable cali scamp...
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
E!
A!
S!
T!
You may think we're wather martyrs
But snow and ice makes us skank harder
Skankers should be pale and pasty
The pizza here is fierce and tasty
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
N.Y.C. !
(Toasters, Pilfers, Mephiskapheles, Scofflaws, Skinnerbox, Slackers, SAS,
Skatalites, Dave Hillyard Rocksteady 7)
BOSTON!
(Skavoovie & the Epitones, Allstonians, MMB)
D.C. !
(Pietasters, Eastern Standard Time, Checkered Cabs)
PHILLY !
(Rathskeller!)
JERSEY !
(INSPECTER 7)
We go out west and play some shows
Then we know it's time to go
Pack the truck and head on back
NEW YORK'S BETTER AND THAT"S A FACT!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
EAST COAST!
FUCK YOU!
Phillip L Wartell
I wouldn't say there's a tiff... Its just differen in terms of what's
more popular and what's more undergorund. In the west coast it
seems like (for the most part) that most of the more "well-known" bands
are ska-punk, and the trad stuff is more underground. In the east it seems
to be the opposite... mostly. In the east, the more trad and rocksteady
ska bands are the more popular bands, but there is a huge underground
ska-punk scene here. Not to say that it never goes the opposite way.. this
ain't set in stone. It's just a generalization. BUt that's my opinion.
Nuff respect! Til Shiloh...
Skafem160
Twonsu writes:
**(snip of all the EAST COAST FUCK YOU stuff)**
Hmm .. where did I put all those HC albums? ;)
Megan
The Sexy Ska Princess and Partime Philosopher
http://www.angelfire.com/nv/sexxymegan/index.html
SHARPOWER
last time i checked florida was on the east coast hmmmm when i think ska punk
i think florida
cheers,
Cameron
SHARPOWER
>hey what about middle america some damn fine bands have come outta
>there too
yeah and what about utah!
oh nevermind....
cheers,
Cameron
SHARPOWER
OGDEN HAWDCORE YO!!!
SkaAuGoGo
>west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
uh, NO.. ever heard of a little label called Steady Beat.. and a little band
called Hepcat? and some other little bands like See Spot, Ocean 11, The
Allentons, The Steady Ups, The Bluebeat Stompers, The Debonaires, The Dynamics,
Mobtown, Yeska.. I don't think I need to go on... These are the bands that MAKE
the west coast ska scene...Any of those bands beat the Toasters or
Mephiskapheles ANYTIME. Sheesh people bother me.
SkaAuGoGo
>
>Aarrggh! Enough!
>
>West Coast Non "Ska-Punk" (in no particular order):
>Hepcat, Jump With Joey, Ocean 11, Mobtown, Yeska, SeeSpot, The
>Allentons, The Debonaires, The Dynamics, Let's Go Bowling, Unsteady,
>Los Hooligans, Checkmate, The Blue Beat Stompers, Monkey, The Titans,
>Undercover S.K.A., Mento Buru, The Israelites, Engine 54, Easy Big Fella,
>Skiptooth, Skeeball, The Inspector, The Showens, and there are more
>that aren't coming to me right now. These bands are in NO way "ska-punk".
YESSSS.. THANK YOU.
Sara P Kyman
Save Ferris aint ska/punk, but in a recent concert, mo said, "well,hey, we
arent exactly a ska band." therefore, i find it hard to place em in a
catagory. um, i guess id say that theyre ska/pop/swing, but u just cant
catagorize every band, im sure u know that!
as for your posts bout west coast. i agree w/ya. i especially love
ocean 11. they kick ass!
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, NIILO SMEDS wrote:
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 97 18:13:00 -0800
> From: NIILO SMEDS <niilo...@i.hate.spam.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
> Subject: Re: Rewind!!!
Samuel Rotker
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, NIILO SMEDS wrote:
> BRIXTON84 wrote...
>
> -> Well as you can alrready tell, there arent that many good west coast
> -> ska bands these days, the few i can withstand being hepcat,mobtown
> -> and ocean11...most west coast bands are pretty commercialized...its
> -> fairly sick..but i dont mind because it's only a phase =oD
> ->
> -> East coast on the other hand has its sour grapes but also has some
> -> tremendous bands...especially in the new england area...east coast
> -> bands dont sound so dubbed or cheesy...EST,Checkered Cabs, King7,
> -> Inspecter7,Notchoma...they know the roots...
>
> I haven't heard most
> of those others except one inspecter 7 song which I don't remember so I
> can't really say anything about htem, but
I can't wait 'til the rest of America gets to see King 7 & the Soulsonics
that was mentioned above. They did a little Easst Coast Tour this past
summer. A lot of people have heard "Rudeboy Invasion" on Skarm. 3, and
even as great a song as that is, it doesn't do their sound justice at all.
That band knows their roots, and they play some good stuff. They are a
little heavy on the covvers, but at least they don't do cheesy 80's metal
tunes. They do stuff like "Artibella" and "Phoenix City." If someone
unfamiliar with those tunes went to a show, they wouldn't be able to tell
the difference between the covers and the originals. Their baritone
sax player is as good as anyone I've ever heard, ska band or
otherwise. That boy can oplay and he takes that band's songs to some
pretty sweet places. And they keep getting better every time I see 'em.
Keep your eye on that band. They do have a 3 song CD out already
(which is tremendous) and their working on a full length that should be
ready around February.
I've heard a lot of those great westcoast bands that Geno raves
about, and they are great, but the eastcoast does have it's share. I do
wish we had more though. Don't sell eastcoast short though.
"Quality."
Sam Rotker
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
Mark
most new york ska is pretty weak... LA has all the best trad bands, as
far as the USA goes.
NIILO SMEDS
TWONSU wrote...
-> EAST COAST!
-> FUCK YOU!
-> EAST COAST!
-> FUCK YOU!
-> EAST COAST!
-> FUCK YOU!
Yeah, East Coast: Fuck you! :) just kidding. I just think our bands
are a lot better.
-> N.Y.C. !
-> (Toasters, Pilfers, Mephiskapheles, Scofflaws, Skinnerbox, Slackers,
-> SAS, Skatalites, Dave Hillyard Rocksteady 7)
HOLD ON A MOTHERFUCKING MINUTE! The Skatalites are from JAMAICA
motherfucker, New York can't be claiming them as their own even if they
are "based" there now; New York did NOT breed the Skatalites in any way,
the Skatalites are from JAMAICA. Come on now. Don't be ridiculous.
As for the rest of your ranting, yeah yeah, our bands are still way
better.
Niilo
ANDY ROGERS
-> TWONSU wrote...
->
-> EAST COAST!
-> FUCK YOU!
-> EAST COAST!
-> FUCK YOU!
-> EAST COAST!
-> FUCK YOU!
-> Yeah, East Coast: Fuck you! :) just kidding. I just think our bands are
-> a lot better.
->
-> N.Y.C. !
-> (Toasters, Pilfers, Mephiskapheles, Scofflaws, Skinnerbox, Slackers,
-> SAS, Skatalites, Dave Hillyard Rocksteady 7)
-> HOLD ON A MOTHERFUCKING MINUTE! The Skatalites are from JAMAICA
-> motherfucker, New York can't be claiming them as their own even if they are
-> "based" there now; New York did NOT breed the Skatalites in any way, the
-> Skatalites are from JAMAICA. Come on now. Don't be ridiculous.
-> As for the rest of your ranting, yeah yeah, our bands are still way better.
-> Niilo
Also I dont know about the Dave Hilliard Rocksteady 7. Dave Hilliard
plays saxaphone for Hepcat, which is based in LA. Now maybe he was a guest on
"Out of Nowhere", or somthing, but chances are he is from California.
-Andy Rogers
NIILO SMEDS
-> Also I dont know about the Dave Hilliard Rocksteady 7. Dave
-> Hilliard
-> plays saxaphone for Hepcat, which is based in LA. Now maybe he was a
-> guest on "Out of Nowhere", or somthing, but chances are he is from
-> California.
I think he lives in New York now.
Niilo
Skafem160
SkaAuGoGo writes:
**>west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
**uh, NO.. ever heard of a little label called Steady Beat..
**(snip)**
Who distros Steady Beat? I used to be able to get it from this <<hiss>> person
<<hiss>> who has a shop but since I no longer speak with them, I do not have a
reliable source.
Scott Smith
What about midwest ska??????
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MU330
Dave
Should the great lakes area (Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana,
Wisconsin, etc.) write an anthem too? Hmm, let's see what WE'VE got...
Telegraph
Parka Kings
Gangster Fun
The Exceptions
The Articles
The Insyderz
WOW!!! And that's just in DETROIT!!! there's also...
Mustard Plug
The Eclectics
Bim Skala Bim (just kidding)
Aks Mamma
The Suicide Machines (not really ska, but still very cool)
and MANY MORE...
( PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO MY LIST AT WILL! I'M SURE IT'S GOT BIG
HOLES IN IT. I'M BY NO MEANS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON Great Lakes ska
bands...)
Lovin' living in the Motor City,
Dave Bowman
Twonsu wrote:
>
> this little "alt.ska.satire" goes out to Niilo, that loveable cali scamp...
>
> EAST COAST!
> FUCK YOU!
> EAST COAST!
> FUCK YOU!
> EAST COAST!
> FUCK YOU!
>
> E!
> A!
> S!
> T!
>
> You may think we're wather martyrs
> But snow and ice makes us skank harder
> Skankers should be pale and pasty
> The pizza here is fierce and tasty
>
> EAST COAST!
> FUCK YOU!
> EAST COAST!
> FUCK YOU!
> EAST COAST!
> FUCK YOU!
>
> N.Y.C. !
> (Toasters, Pilfers, Mephiskapheles, Scofflaws, Skinnerbox, Slackers, SAS,
> Skatalites, Dave Hillyard Rocksteady 7)
>
GENO SNYDER
-> I wouldn't say there's a tiff... Its just differen in terms of what's
-> more popular and what's more undergorund. In the west coast it
-> seems like (for the most part) that most of the more "well-known"
-> bands are ska-punk, and the trad stuff is more underground. In the
-> east it seems to be the opposite... mostly. In the east, the more
-> trad and rocksteady ska bands are the more popular bands, but there
-> is a huge underground ska-punk scene here. Not to say that it never
-> goes the opposite way.. this ain't set in stone. It's just a
-> generalization. BUt that's my opinion. Nuff respect! Til Shiloh...
you know, the funny thing is that only the uninformed people ever say
these things.
ever heard of hepcat? ever heard of seespot? ever heard of the blue
beat stompers? ever heard of the steady ups? debonaires? ocean 11? i
could go on and on. california has more traditonal bands than the ENTIRE
east coast does. if you consider the toasters and checkered cabs to be
traditional ska in any way, you really need to think again. and yes, the
slackers are great. they should move out to california and make the
monopoly complete. >:)
-Geno
GENO SNYDER
-> > BRIXTON84 wrote...
-> >
-> > -> Well as you can alrready tell, there arent that many good west
-> coast > -> ska bands these days, the few i can withstand being
-> hepcat,mobtown > -> and ocean11...most west coast bands are pretty
-> commercialized...its > -> fairly sick..but i dont mind because it's
-> only a phase =oD > ->
-> > -> East coast on the other hand has its sour grapes but also has
-> area...east coast > -> bands dont sound so dubbed or
-> cheesy...EST,Checkered Cabs, King7, > -> Inspecter7,Notchoma...they
-> know the roots...
-> >
-> > I haven't heard most
-> > of those others except one inspecter 7 song which I don't remember
-> so I > can't really say anything about htem, but
->
-> I can't wait 'til the rest of America gets to see King 7 & the
-> Soulsonics that was mentioned above. They did a little Easst Coast
-> Tour this past summer. A lot of people have heard "Rudeboy Invasion"
-> on Skarm. 3, and even as great a song as that is, it doesn't do their
-> sound justice at all. That band knows their roots, and they play some
-> good stuff. They are a little heavy on the covvers, but at least
-> they don't do cheesy 80's metal tunes. They do stuff like
-> "Artibella" and "Phoenix City." If someone unfamiliar with those
-> tunes went to a show, they wouldn't be able to tell the difference
-> between the covers and the originals. Their baritone sax player is
-> as good as anyone I've ever heard, ska band or
-> otherwise. That boy can oplay and he takes that band's songs to some
-> pretty sweet places. And they keep getting better every time I see
-> 'em. Keep your eye on that band. They do have a 3 song CD out
-> already (which is tremendous) and their working on a full length that
-> should be ready around February.
-> I've heard a lot of those great westcoast bands that Geno raves
-> about, and they are great, but the eastcoast does have it's share. I
-> do wish we had more though. Don't sell eastcoast short though.
->
-> "Quality."
-> Sam Rotker
what are some of the other lesser known east coast bands that are more
like the ones we have out here? i only know about the bigger bands, much
as im sure some of the people out there dont get enough exposure to the
cream of the crop out here. give me a few more names of bands that are
comparible to, you know.. the traditional one out here! id love to see
if i could find some east coast stuff that i liked as much!
-geno
Tim
ZeroHero wrote:
>
> megan wrote in message <01bd0116$73d83760$61b995d0@default>...
> >hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard is
> >SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
> >
> >"Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
> >nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
> >
> >"I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
> >(i was wearing checkered tights)
> >
> >This is SO obnoxious!!
> >
> >Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers. Does
> >anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
> >
> >grrrr
> >
> >Super Megan.
> I wish more than 5 people at my school ever even heard of the word ska.
> -ZeroHero
At my school there's about 30. But none of them really listen to any
other bands except Less than Jake, Reel Big Fish and suicide machines so
I don't know how great that is. I'd rather have like 2 that are into it
and know what they're talking about that are true to themselves than 30
who wanna be like all their friends and feel all cool cause they're
going to see the same RBF show for the 20 millionth time. Cause beyond
knowing all the words to that "please don't hate me beacuse I'm trendy"
song, there isn't much about ska they know. Ok bye bye.
Emily
Tim
megan wrote:
>
> hahaha...All these MORONS at my school think that anything checkerboard is
> SKA. here, let me supply you with a few quotes....
>
> "Check out this "ska" barette I have. I painted it myself...with
> nailpolish" (referring to a SHITTY looking checkered barette...dorks)
>
> "I just love those ska tights, Megan....they're sooo ska"
> (i was wearing checkered tights)
>
> This is SO obnoxious!!
>
> Like those idiots even know the significance of 2tone....losers. Does
> anyone else have to put up with that!?!?!
>
> grrrr
>
> Super Megan.
YES!!!!!!! I thought the dumbass trendoids at my school were the only
people in the world that say that!!!! I know exactly what you're talking
about!!! Ok, bye.
Emily
Tim
Hey,
We all know the midwestern scene is the greatest there is anyway so what
is there to really talk about huh??
Emily
Lance
considered to be the other way around by everyone. The west coast was
widely considered to be the place for trad ska while the east coast was
known more for it's punkier, poppier ska bands. Not to take anything
away from the punk bands flying the ska banner these days but it sure is
lame that if you throw a couple of 'em on MTV, all of a sudden they're
the "epitomy" of west coast ska. To be sure, the west coast has a lot
more traditional sounding ska bands. And most people that have been
around awhile would know this. It just happens to be that for all of the
new kids coming onto the "scene" the MTV bands are their first taste of
ska. And, those bands might be from the west, but they are the minority.
There are far more trad bands than punky-ska bands in the west.
The mid-west however..... They've been doing the ska-punk thing since
the beginning.
Later,
Lance
Brixton84
>you know, the funny thing is that only the uninformed people ever say
>these things.
> ever heard of hepcat? ever heard of seespot? ever heard of the blue
>beat stompers? ever heard of the steady ups? debonaires? ocean 11? i
>could go on and on. california has more traditonal bands than the ENTIRE
>east coast does. if you consider the toasters and checkered cabs to be
>traditional ska in any way, you really need to think again. and yes, the
>slackers are great. they should move out to california and make the
>monopoly complete. >:)
> -Geno
>
>
seems they have some sort of rock n roll attitude about everything. I meet alot
of bands from the east coast and they're all ready to sit down have a few beers
and chat away. Even bands like the bosstones would say hey. We're all good
people =oD
leigh
GENO SNYDER wrote:
>
> what are some of the other lesser known east coast bands that are more
> like the ones we have out here? i only know about the bigger bands, much
> as im sure some of the people out there dont get enough exposure to the
> cream of the crop out here. give me a few more names of bands that are
> comparible to, you know.. the traditional one out here! id love to see
> if i could find some east coast stuff that i liked as much!
> -geno
I think the real problem here is that there are few ska bands who put
out recorded material that lives up to their live shows. Therefore, all
the bands you get to see live have a huge advantage over the bands you
don't get to see. The west coasters are just gonna have to take it on
faith that the Allstonians are a terrific band, just as we on the east
coast have to trust that Mobtown are a lot better than their album would
suggest.
As far as lesser known east coast bands, the Radiation Kings and Orange
Street have had some good reviews (haven't heard either of 'em yet
myself) and, of course, Eastern Standard Time are great. The Pressure
Cookers started off well, but I don't think they've played many shows
lately, so I don't know what's up with them. There are probably dozens
more, but since I live in a state which doesn't have a single ska band,
I'm probably not the best person to try to help you out.
Leigh
donald burke
SkaAuGoGo wrote:
>
> >west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
>
> called Hepcat? and some other little bands like See Spot, Ocean 11, The
> Allentons, The Steady Ups, The Bluebeat Stompers, The Debonaires, The Dynamics,
> Mobtown, Yeska.. I don't think I need to go on... These are the bands that MAKE
> the west coast ska scene...Any of those bands beat the Toasters or
> Mephiskapheles ANYTIME. Sheesh people bother me.
but not the slackers, skinnerbox, the insteps, the stubborn allstars or
eastern standard time.
donald burke
NIILO SMEDS wrote:
>
> DERBY9 wrote...
>
> -> skaq...@hotmail.com wrote in message
> -> <881975805...@dejanews.com>... >actually there is a diff. i'm
> -> on the west coast........theres a lot of >violence at shows and
> -> stuff.......hardly any rudies in fresno(where i'm >from)
> -> >
> ->
> -> west coast = mostly ska-punk east coast = mostly trad-ska
>
> Bull fuckin shit. The west coast is where its AT for traditional.
> SeeSpot, Hepcat, Ocean 11, Mobtown, Venice Shoreline Chris, BlueBeat
> Stompers, Checkmate, Dynamics, Los Hooligans, Let's Go Bowling,
i don't think lgb has that great trad sound you're talking about. i'd
put them in the trebly category. but really, the east coast has some
great bands. the slackers are awesome, vic has gotta be the single most
talented person on the ska scene right now. skinnerbox and the stubborn
allstars are good. the insteps ruled. the pietasters had a really
great sound on oolooloo. unfortunetly, the new one isn't so good. i
think we have a communication problem here. we're taking your big
ska-punk bands as representitive of the west-coast sound. you're taking
the toasters and mephiskapheles (ugh) as representitive of ours. i
think that, if you look hard enough, you'll find some really great bands
on each coast.
Ps: venice shorline chris isn't that good
pps: you guys have to get some penalty for producing buck-o-nine
Yeska,
> Titans, Steady Ups, I'm afraid it's ALL about the west coast for
> traditional ska, what's the east coast got? Scofflaws and Slackers are
> the only ones I like. The rest all seem to be tinny post-2tone type
> stuff. Don't mix up the orange county punkrock spawn with west coast
> ska, fool boy. And to the original poster hell yeah there's a
> difference. West Coast bands have the original sweet SOUND, not this
> thin trebly whatnot from over the'ah. I must give it up to the Slackers
> though, they have the SOUND.
>
> Niilo
donald burke
NIILO SMEDS wrote:
>
> BRIXTON84 wrote...
>
> -> ska bands these days, the few i can withstand being hepcat,mobtown
> -> and ocean11...most west coast bands are pretty commercialized...its
> -> fairly sick..but i dont mind because it's only a phase =oD
> ->
> -> East coast on the other hand has its sour grapes but also has some
> -> tremendous bands...especially in the new england area...east coast
> -> bands dont sound so dubbed or cheesy...EST,Checkered Cabs, King7,
> -> Inspecter7,Notchoma...they know the roots...
>
> They know the roots?! The Checkered fuckin Cabs?? I mean, they aren't
> skacore but they don't sound rootsy either, come on, seespot, dynamics,
> steady ups, checkmate, mobtown ocean 11 and hepcat as you mentioned,
> THEY play rootsy stuff. Do the Checkered Cabs sound ANYTHING like
> anything you'd hear on a '60s record? helllll no. I haven't heard most
> of those others except one inspecter 7 song which I don't remember so I
> can't really say anything about htem, but I've heard a few checkered
> cabs songs now and it was all typical thin east coast stuff.
>
> Niilo
i've heard 2 checkered cabs recordings. honor your father and you
mother live on oi-skamp, and la bamba. i liked the first one, but la
bamba wasn't much mnore than a novelty. still, i love the band. they
are great live. sure they don't sound rootsy, but that doesn't mean
they don't know the roots. did the insteps sound rootsy? hells no.
did they know the roots? yo creo gue si. i don't know, i can hear a
definite 60s rb type influence in the cabs, live anyway. i-7 is pretty
bad. no getting around that. est is good, check them out if you have
a chance.
Rob the Mod
Skawalker9 wrote:
>
> What about Mid-west ska dammit!!!
> I admit a lot of our scene consists of Hy-brid bands, but we constantly get
> overlooked.
>
> Chill,
> Skawalker
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> *Force Driven Ska-core for the Entire Galaxy*
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All of the Midwest or Chicago???
Rob the Mod
Allez Cats SC.
First Scooter Club in the Second City.
There's two members left and that's mighty shitty.
GENO SNYDER
-> >you know, the funny thing is that only the uninformed people ever
-> say >these things.
-> > ever heard of hepcat? ever heard of seespot? ever heard of the
-> blue >beat stompers? ever heard of the steady ups? debonaires? ocean
-> 11? i >could go on and on. california has more traditonal bands than
-> the ENTIRE >east coast does. if you consider the toasters and
-> checkered cabs to be >traditional ska in any way, you really need to
-> think again. and yes, the >slackers are great. they should move out
-> to california and make the >monopoly complete. >:)
-> > -Geno
-> >
-> >
-> Woah wait a second here. I've heard all those bands. Alot of those
-> bands it seems they have some sort of rock n roll attitude about
-> everything. I meet alot of bands from the east coast and they're all
-> ready to sit down have a few beers and chat away. Even bands like the
-> bosstones would say hey. We're all good people =oD
most of the bands ive heard of are perfectly nice, from what i know... i
dont really make an effort to socialize with them, just because it isnt
really my thing, but most of them seem like decent people....
-geno
ACEFACE
In article <8E5707A.04E2...@i.hate.spam.com>,
geno....@i.hate.spam.com (GENO SNYDER) wrote:
>you know, the funny thing is that only the uninformed people ever say
>these things.
> ever heard of hepcat? ever heard of seespot? ever heard of the blue
>beat stompers? ever heard of the steady ups? debonaires? ocean 11? i
>could go on and on. california has more traditonal bands than the ENTIRE
>east coast does. if you consider the toasters and checkered cabs to be
>traditional ska in any way, you really need to think again. and yes, the
>slackers are great. they should move out to california and make the
>monopoly complete. >:)
> -Geno
Who gives a flying fuck who has more "traditional" ska bands. The most
important thing about them is the music. It's doesn't fucking matter
where they reside. Also, I believe the Checkered Cabs are far more
traditional than most other bands, especially the Toasters (who are more
poppy and 2Tone). How many 3rd wave bands can claim to have a singer
with such a wicked soulful voice?
One more comment on the East vs. West argument: I think it is safe to say
that the New York Ska-Jazz Ensemble blows away most of the West Coast bands,
except Hepcat, of course. And what about the Adjusters?
Cheers, Billy (Mod-Skin)
re...@netcom.ca
SkaNerd76
> if you consider the <snip>
>checkered cabs to be
>traditional ska in any way, you really need to think again.
hmmm . . .i'm thinking and i have always thought of them as traditional. i
don't see how they are less trad than any of the claifornia bands, maybe i
haven't heard enough or maybe they came out with their ska-core album or
something. who knows? ok, enough rambling for now. -kim
Skawalker9
Tedford Juachon
donald burke wrote:
>...i-7 is pretty
> bad. no getting around that
ouch.
Tedford, ex-I7
Tedford Juachon
Let's keep this going around and around and around....
Just talking about traditional bands, I've noticed that the east coast
bands, as a whole, tend to have a healthy amount of jazz or swing blended
into the ska (let's include the Articles in this for the middle of the
country), like NYSJE, the Slackers, Skavoovie & the Epitones, f'rinstance.
Meanwhile, bands out west like Hepcat, Mobtown, or See Spot are leaning
more towards the Latin in their songs. That's just how I see it, neither
good nor bad--just an observation.
But remember: Jazz, Latin, Mento, R&B--these were all thrown into the mix,
way back when, and different bands are going to find their own recipes with
different proportions of these ingredients. Who cares as long as they keep
putting out the scorchers?
Your Pal,
Tedford
Brixton84
>pps: you guys have to get some penalty for producing buck-o-nine
Right on!!! bwahahahahaha
Brixton84
>i've heard 2 checkered cabs recordings. honor your father and you
>mother live on oi-skamp, and la bamba. i liked the first one, but la
>bamba wasn't much mnore than a novelty. still, i love the band. they
>are great live. sure they don't sound rootsy, but that doesn't mean
>they don't know the roots. did the insteps sound rootsy? hells no.
>did they know the roots? yo creo gue si. i don't know, i can hear a
>definite 60s rb type influence in the cabs, live anyway. i-7 is pretty
>bad. no getting around that. est is good, check them out if you have
>a chance.
And to add to this...the checkered cabs have as far as i think..the BEST female
front singer for any ska band in the US..if you havent seen em live..then you
don't know shit...see them..then come back to me..
Mr. Groovy
In article <349734...@acadia.net>, leigh <le...@acadia.net> wrote:
> As far as lesser known east coast bands, the Radiation Kings and Orange
> Street have had some good reviews (haven't heard either of 'em yet
> myself) and, of course, Eastern Standard Time are great. The Pressure
> Cookers started off well, but I don't think they've played many shows
> lately, so I don't know what's up with them. There are probably dozens
> more, but since I live in a state which doesn't have a single ska band,
> I'm probably not the best person to try to help you out.
I saw the Pressure Cookers last month, but have heard nary a peep from
'em since. It's a shame-- they're quite an amazing band (and just what
Boston needs, as far as trad ska goes) but I wish they'd get off their
duff and record a CD or something. They're probably taking a break
because Glenn Pine, (formerly of Beat Soup) their trombone player, has
been touring with the Slackers.
--
|------>Michael "mr. groovy" Toole.
email:mazi...@tiac.net<------------------|
|-------------------->http://www.tiac.net/users/mazinger
ska music and japanese cartoons!<------------------------|
Phillip L Wartell
Radiation Kings definitely kick ass. Other leseer known east caost bands
that kick ass are The ROyalties, Edn'as Goldfish, CHeckerboard Charlie,
Step LIvely, Big D and the Kids TAble, Et TU Brute, and The Dominent 7.
I'm sure there are more I forgot. Most of them have stuff releaseed, but
just aren't well known on the west coast, just like how most of the west
coast bands people have been naming are pretty much unheard of on the east
coast, with a few exceptions of course. THink about it. Nuff respect.
Til Shiloh
Sara P Kyman
X
On 17 Dec 1997, Skawalker9 wrote:
> Date: 17 Dec 1997 05:43:28 GMT
> From: Skawalker9 <skawa...@aol.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
> Subject: Re: IS THERE A DIFF BTWN EAST AND WEST SKA??????
>
> What about Mid-west ska dammit!!!
> I admit a lot of our scene consists of Hy-brid bands, but we constantly get
> overlooked.
>
> Chill,
> Skawalker
I just moved to Chicago and i found one of the best ska scenes out
there! the jesters,blue meanies, mibs, CHUCK WREN!, the midwest is
awesome, i agree. the clubhouse is my home away from home,and even though
i havent been to the fireside bowl yet, they have good shows too. the
everything off beat cd rocks, i never take it out of my stereo. youre
right,the midwest is overlooked. it shouldnt be!
-Sara
Brixton84
> I just moved to Chicago and i found one of the best ska scenes out
>there! the jesters,blue meanies, mibs, CHUCK WREN!, the midwest is
>awesome, i agree. the clubhouse is my home away from home,and even though
>i havent been to the fireside bowl yet, they have good shows too. the
>everything off beat cd rocks, i never take it out of my stereo. youre
>right,the midwest is overlooked. it shouldnt be!
> -Sara
And you still fail to mention the best Chi-town ska band...Deals gone
bad....arghhhhh...
err....Arrrrrrrr Pirate Ska!!
leigh
Tedford Juachon wrote:
>
> donald burke wrote:
> >...i-7 is pretty
> > bad. no getting around that
>
> Tedford, ex-I7
Jesus! How many ex-I7 people are there on this group? (hi john!)
In their defense, I7 definitely ain't trad, so it's pretty unfair to
judge them in that category.
Leigh
leigh
Brixton84 wrote:
>
> And to add to this...the checkered cabs have as far as i think..the BEST female
> front singer for any ska band in the US..if you havent seen em live..then you
> don't know shit...see them..then come back to me..
Hmm. What about the woman from Franceska? I haven't seen either band
live, but the Franceska chick is pretty amazing on CD.
Leigh
Luis P. Correa
SeeSkaP8 wrote:> Chris Murray is one of the MOST talented songwriters in the ska scene. He has
> sooo many good songs that have not even been released because he is waiting for
> the right vehicle. I went to a recording session in which Lloyd Knibb, Lloyd
> Brevett, and Chris recorded some of his songs. The response? Knibb said of
> the songs: "Awww. These songs should've belonged to we" referring to the
> Skatalites. If you mean that when he plays live he's not that good, then you
> get the balls to get on stage and play ska by yourself before another full band
> gets on and see how "good" you sound. If you mean his album, that was done on
> a four track by just HIM! But the songs are really good. He has a true love
> of the music and is one of the most humble, nice guys that you'll ever meet.
> He's a very talented musician and songwriter and I think people will start to
> see that when he decides to release more of his work. I'm sorry if I got too
> heated over a simple statement, but I REALLY disagree with it.
>
> >>pps: you guys have to get some penalty for producing buck-o-nine
>
> coaster and Dave Hillyard (Slackers, Stubborn All-Stars, Dave Hillyard
> Rocksteady 7) was implanted from the west. So that should make up for it.
>
> BEP
You tell them
Mr. Pate pwell also thedifference i see, the west has more of
alatin influence , no?
NIILO SMEDS
BRIXTON84 wrote...
-> >you know, the funny thing is that only the uninformed people ever
-> say >these things.
-> > ever heard of hepcat? ever heard of seespot? ever heard of the
-> blue >beat stompers? ever heard of the steady ups? debonaires? ocean
-> 11? i >could go on and on. california has more traditonal bands than
-> the ENTIRE >east coast does. if you consider the toasters and
-> checkered cabs to be >traditional ska in any way, you really need to
-> think again. and yes, the >slackers are great. they should move out
-> to california and make the >monopoly complete. >:)
-> > -Geno
-> >
-> >
-> Woah wait a second here. I've heard all those bands. Alot of those
-> bands it seems they have some sort of rock n roll attitude about
-> everything. I meet alot of bands from the east coast and they're all
-> ready to sit down have a few beers and chat away. Even bands like the
-> bosstones would say hey. We're all good people =oD
Rock n roll attitude? Have you seen these bands? I've had
conversations with members of ALL of the bands Geno mentioned and not
one has ever been unpleasant, I've never seen a "rock n roll attitude"
from ANY of them.
Which bands gave you a "rock n roll attitude?" You don't mention ever
having seen any of them.
Niilo
GENO SNYDER
-> Let's keep this going around and around and around....
->
-> Just talking about traditional bands, I've noticed that the east
-> coast bands, as a whole, tend to have a healthy amount of jazz or
-> swing blended into the ska (let's include the Articles in this for
-> the middle of the country), like NYSJE, the Slackers, Skavoovie & the
-> Epitones, f'rinstance. Meanwhile, bands out west like Hepcat,
-> Mobtown, or See Spot are leaning more towards the Latin in their
-> songs. That's just how I see it, neither good nor bad--just an
-> observation.
->
-> But remember: Jazz, Latin, Mento, R&B--these were all thrown into the
-> mix, way back when, and different bands are going to find their own
-> recipes with different proportions of these ingredients. Who cares
-> as long as they keep putting out the scorchers?
->
-> Your Pal,
-> Tedford
theres a much larger soul element out here it seems, also. west couast
that is.
-geno
GENO SNYDER
-> >pps: you guys have to get some penalty for producing buck-o-nine
-> Right on!!! bwahahahahaha
yeah yeah yeah... you guys have shitty bands a plenty so dont go off on
poor little defenseless buck o nine... >;)
-Geno
SeeSkaP8
Chris Murray is one of the MOST talented songwriters in the ska scene. He has
sooo many good songs that have not even been released because he is waiting for
the right vehicle. I went to a recording session in which Lloyd Knibb, Lloyd
Brevett, and Chris recorded some of his songs. The response? Knibb said of
the songs: "Awww. These songs should've belonged to we" referring to the
Skatalites. If you mean that when he plays live he's not that good, then you
get the balls to get on stage and play ska by yourself before another full band
gets on and see how "good" you sound. If you mean his album, that was done on
a four track by just HIM! But the songs are really good. He has a true love
of the music and is one of the most humble, nice guys that you'll ever meet.
He's a very talented musician and songwriter and I think people will start to
see that when he decides to release more of his work. I'm sorry if I got too
heated over a simple statement, but I REALLY disagree with it.
>>pps: you guys have to get some penalty for producing buck-o-nine
Heh. Okay, but for the record, Eastern Standard Time was formed by a west
Ska Oreo
>Hmm. What about the woman from Franceska? I haven't seen either band
>live, but the Franceska chick is pretty amazing on CD.
>
>Leigh
Franceska is a very cool/good (imo) trad band from oregon. i have the cd with
erin wallace doin the vox, and i've seen them w/ their 3 replacement singers,
and both ways, "it's all good".
Franceska can make the audience dance, the singers can definately sing, and
overall, they have a really good sound to boot.
YaY - PNW Ska!
- pasha
Brixton84
>Which bands gave you a "rock n roll attitude?" You don't mention ever
>having seen any of them.
I don't go to these concerts, I see enough of it on tv these days.
Lance
leigh wrote:>
> Hmm. What about the woman from Franceska? I haven't seen either band
> live, but the Franceska chick is pretty amazing on CD.
>
> Leigh
Yes she is indeed. Franceska is an all around great band. They have a
new album out and pretty much everyone around the country should be able
to get if they try. I would definately recommend it. Unfortunately the
singer you're refering has left the band to attend music school or
something. But on the up side, they have replaced her with 3, yes,
that's right, 3 female singers and they might be even better in my
opinion. They aren't on the album that was just released, but I believe
they are working on new stuff for some comps. If you are looking for new
ska or want to check out one of the northwest's great bands, do yourself
a favor and seek out their album. It's called Modern Music For Dancing
Lovers.
Also, one of the new singers is the girlfriend of the bassist for The
Feds. They are currently working on their debut album for Simmerdown
Records and when it is released, people are gonna be amazed. This is one
band that sounds as close to the Skatalites as any band I've ever heard.
And they aren't even trying to. They've got so much soul and so much
roots runnin' through their veins it hurts. They've got such a sweet
sound. Hopefully they'll have their album out by spring. I hope to take
them on the road with my band when we tour in the spring/summer. They
had 2 tracks on the Simmerdown compilation Land of the Bigfoot Ska: Ska
From Bigfoot Country but that is not at all indicative of what they
sound like now. You must check out The Feds album when it comes out!
Later,
Lance
SkaNerd76
>>Which bands gave you a "rock n roll attitude?" You don't mention ever
>>having seen any of them.
>
>I don't go to these concerts, I see enough of it on tv these days.
>
>
>
i have never seen any of the bands that geno was talking about on t.v. do you
even know any of them?? now please, remove your head from your ass and go away.
-kim
donald burke
not that shitty though...
Mike
> having seen any of them.
every time Steady Ups play with any of those bands, they are just about
some of the nicest folks I've ever been around. Maybe they give people
an attitude on a person to person basis, I don't know. They are always
super cool to us when we go to So Cal for shows. I will say one thing
for the East Coast though, they have the Bluebeats and the Usuals(from
Florida)... two bands that I really like from what I've heard so far.
Mike
SeeSkaP8 wrote:
>
> donald burke <ekr...@erols.com> wrote:
> >>Ps: venice shorline chris isn't that good
>
> Chris Murray is one of the MOST talented songwriters in the ska scene. He has
> sooo many good songs that have not even been released because he is waiting for
> the right vehicle. I went to a recording session in which Lloyd Knibb, Lloyd
> Brevett, and Chris recorded some of his songs. The response? Knibb said of
> the songs: "Awww. These songs should've belonged to we" referring to the
> Skatalites. If you mean that when he plays live he's not that good, then you
> get the balls to get on stage and play ska by yourself before another full band
> gets on and see how "good" you sound. If you mean his album, that was done on
> a four track by just HIM! But the songs are really good. He has a true love
> of the music and is one of the most humble, nice guys that you'll ever meet.
> He's a very talented musician and songwriter and I think people will start to
> see that when he decides to release more of his work. I'm sorry if I got too
> heated over a simple statement, but I REALLY disagree with it.
>
>
> coaster and Dave Hillyard (Slackers, Stubborn All-Stars, Dave Hillyard
> Rocksteady 7) was implanted from the west. So that should make up for it.
>
> BEP
and your voice, you have nothing to hide behind at all. I'm in a 12
piece band, you have safety in numbers in some ways. Not only is Chris a
very talented musician, he is a very BRAVE musician...
Mike
Luis P. Correa wrote:
>
> SeeSkaP8 wrote:
> >
> > donald burke <ekr...@erols.com> wrote:
> > >>Ps: venice shorline chris isn't that good
> >
> > Chris Murray is one of the MOST talented songwriters in the ska scene. He has
> > sooo many good songs that have not even been released because he is waiting for
> > the right vehicle. I went to a recording session in which Lloyd Knibb, Lloyd
> > Brevett, and Chris recorded some of his songs. The response? Knibb said of
> > the songs: "Awww. These songs should've belonged to we" referring to the
> > Skatalites. If you mean that when he plays live he's not that good, then you
> > get the balls to get on stage and play ska by yourself before another full band
> > gets on and see how "good" you sound. If you mean his album, that was done on
> > a four track by just HIM! But the songs are really good. He has a true love
> > of the music and is one of the most humble, nice guys that you'll ever meet.
> > He's a very talented musician and songwriter and I think people will start to
> > see that when he decides to release more of his work. I'm sorry if I got too
> > heated over a simple statement, but I REALLY disagree with it.
> >
> > >>pps: you guys have to get some penalty for producing buck-o-nine
> >
> > Heh. Okay, but for the record, Eastern Standard Time was formed by a west
> > coaster and Dave Hillyard (Slackers, Stubborn All-Stars, Dave Hillyard
> > Rocksteady 7) was implanted from the west. So that should make up for it.
> >
> > BEP
> Mr. Pate pwell also thedifference i see, the west has more of
> alatin influence , no?
notice it a lot in the skinhead culture especially. There are a great
deal more skinheads from different backgrounds in Southern California.
Up here in Sacto, there isn't as much diversity as far as that goes.
Many of the people in California are Latino due to the fact that Mexico
is only minutes from So Cal, and the music reflects that influence on
the west coast... and the food in So Cal is the fuckin' best around....
they have 24 hour mexican food joints... how can you beat that?