**********THE REASON POSERS SUCK**************
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i'm tired of just saying posers suck, it just a shallow generalization
made by idiots who cant think. there are reasons for my *personal* dislike
of posers. to start i would like to define what poser means to me:
1. someone who starts liking music to be cool
2. some one who does not respect the roots of the music that they listen to.
3. someone who embodies the culture but ends up just skimming the surface
of it.
those, obviously are not *THE RULES* on what a poser is, but they might
clarify a few things. i'll admit i wan't born punk or ska i was a little
wet baby that yelled alot, then i grew up to be a 12 year old trendy, i
listened to the comercial stations (from alternative to metal to rap). i
never thought that there was anything other than these things, it just
never entered into my. i started listening to punk and later ska to be
like some "cool" kids in my school. i admit that i was a poser, this is
something that all these people refuseto admit, the fact that they were
posers!!! this is a generalization but its true. the difference is that i
didnt dress up in a bomber jacket with pins and patches of bands that i had
never seen or heard in my life. i took the cautious route i went to shows
and just looked at what was in the stores and just bought what i liked. my
journey ends in the present, i'm alot wiser and respect the roots of ska
even if i dont necessarily listen to the music that represents the 1st or
2nd wave.
alex
GENO SNYDER
-> i'm tired of just saying posers suck, it just a shallow
-> generalization made by idiots who cant think. there are reasons for
-> my *personal* dislike of posers. to start i would like to define
-> what poser means to me:
-> 1. someone who starts liking music to be cool
-> 2. some one who does not respect the roots of the music that they
-> listen to. 3. someone who embodies the culture but ends up just
-> skimming the surface of it.
->
-> those, obviously are not *THE RULES* on what a poser is, but they
-> might clarify a few things. i'll admit i wan't born punk or ska i was
-> a little wet baby that yelled alot, then i grew up to be a 12 year
-> old trendy, i listened to the comercial stations (from alternative to
-> metal to rap). i never thought that there was anything other than
-> these things, it just never entered into my. i started listening to
-> punk and later ska to be like some "cool" kids in my school. i admit
-> that i was a poser, this is something that all these people refuseto
-> admit, the fact that they were posers!!! this is a generalization
-> but its true. the difference is that i didnt dress up in a bomber
-> jacket with pins and patches of bands that i had never seen or heard
-> in my life. i took the cautious route i went to shows and just
-> looked at what was in the stores and just bought what i liked. my
-> journey ends in the present, i'm alot wiser and respect the roots of
-> ska even if i dont necessarily listen to the music that represents
-> the 1st or 2nd wave.
->
->
-> alex
why do posers suck? i would like to know. i think poser is a term made
up by "little wet babies" who want to have something that no one else
can touch. i think "poser" is a term that morons use frequently, and
that shows something now, dosent it? i think that if YOU call anyone a
poser, it is pretty much showing them that youre kind of insecure about
YOUR standing in other peoples eyes. you know what? i might be a poser
by your standards. iwasnt in jamaica when ska started. i wasnt in
nashville or memphis o lubbock when rock n roll started, but by god i
love the music, and everyone else has a right to without subscribing to
some dumb brats idea of what a "poser" and a "true fan" are. screw off
and quit posting this mindless generation x moronic "i have nothing to
live for, so ill live for the SCENE" shit. this is soooo stupid.
-geno
Darren Pakravan
I think that the term "poser" comes from the fact that people "pose" as
something they would like to be but are not. The way I see it is that
people who pretend to be something they are not and try to project a
certain image of themselves deserve the disrespect those pretentions
inspire in others. However, most of the time people have no way of
knowing if the person they think is a poser really is or not. Sometimes
it's obvious (one example that I've mentioned here before was the group
of kids yelling "Hep! Hep! Pick It Up!" during the Bosstones) but many
times it's only speculation. I don't think this is a good reason to
insult people you don't know or exclude them from some "scene" that you
percieve, but they do exist and people SHOULD try and be what they are
and try to BECOME what they want to be instead of faking it. Geno, I
wouldn't consider you a poser because you obviously have a love for the
music and don't try to present yourself as anything other than a fan of
the music you love. I agree that all the arguing about posers is dumb
but I also am disgusted by people who don't just follow the crowd, but
act like they lead it as well.
--
Darren Pakravan
d-pak...@nwu.edu
***this is my real email***
Darren Pakravan
GENO SNYDER wrote:
>
> -> > why do posers suck? i would like to know. i think poser is a term
> -> made > up by "little wet babies" who want to have something that no
> -> one else > can touch. i think "poser" is a term that morons use
> -> frequently, and > that shows something now, dosent it? i think that
> -> if YOU call anyone a > poser, it is pretty much showing them that
> -> youre kind of insecure about > YOUR standing in other peoples eyes.
> -> you know what? i might be a poser > by your standards. iwasnt in
> -> jamaica when ska started. i wasnt in > nashville or memphis o lubbock
> -> when rock n roll started, but by god i > love the music, and everyone
> -> else has a right to without subscribing to > some dumb brats idea of
> -> what a "poser" and a "true fan" are. screw off > and quit posting
> -> this mindless generation x moronic "i have nothing to > live for, so
> -> ill live for the SCENE" shit. this is soooo stupid. >
> -> -geno
> -> I think that the term "poser" comes from the fact that people "pose"
> -> as something they would like to be but are not. The way I see it is
> -> that people who pretend to be something they are not and try to
> -> project a certain image of themselves deserve the disrespect those
> -> pretentions inspire in others. However, most of the time people have
> -> no way of knowing if the person they think is a poser really is or
> -> not. Sometimes it's obvious (one example that I've mentioned here
> -> before was the group of kids yelling "Hep! Hep! Pick It Up!" during
> -> the Bosstones) but many times it's only speculation. I don't think
> -> this is a good reason to insult people you don't know or exclude them
> -> from some "scene" that you percieve, but they do exist and people
> -> SHOULD try and be what they are and try to BECOME what they want to
> -> be instead of faking it. Geno, I wouldn't consider you a poser
> -> because you obviously have a love for the music and don't try to
> -> present yourself as anything other than a fan of the music you love.
> -> I agree that all the arguing about posers is dumb but I also am
> -> disgusted by people who don't just follow the crowd, but act like
> -> they lead it as well.
> -> --
> -> Darren Pakravan
> i dont understand....are you saying that i have pretensions to leading
> people??? i really dont.... um i think the only group i lead is the geno
> crew, and we only have one member! :) oh well i think that the word
> poser is just inadequate. many people have many rasons why they dress
> how they do and identify with groups that they do...who CARES what
> someone else thinks they are, when i can look at them and see right
> inside of them? why BECOME when you already ARE!??!? thats silly and
> juvenile....you cant become anything that you want to be, you have to
> play with the hand dealt to you...no matter HOW much i talk like a
> "staight up g-funk muthaphucka" i will never be from south central so to
> speak....so why bother trying to impress anyone....well whatever. i dont
> care hat some silly little kid does. theres too much to be done in life
> than rate others performances on the "stage"....
> -Geno
From what I know of you, you don't follow the crowd AND act like you
lead it too, so I wasn't trying to come down on you for anything. I
guess my main point is that there are different degrees to how much
people think for themselves or, conversely, let others do their thinking
for them. The thing is, I know WAY too many people who let others'
perceptions of them determine their actions. That's the kind of thing I
don't like. I wouldn't call all of those people "posers" or "trendies"
though, and I don't really care except when I notice someone acting so
preposterously that it makes me laugh out loud, and then I tell my
friends and they usually start laughing, too.
Crooner 42
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