Fred Perry Shirts?
Mick Spencer
Hey All,
At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is a Fred Perry Shirt? I've seen
people mention them in some sort of relation to Ska. Is this some kind
of shirt Ska fans would be likely to wear? Is it a 2-tone thing? Or
what? Thanks.
---Mick
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Fred Perry was a professional UK tennis player from days gone by. His
polo-type shirts were popularized during the two-tone days. Correct me
if I'm wrong, but I believe the Mods were mainly responsible for the
shirt's high visibility during this time. Apparently the place to find
them is at TJ Maxx during the spring. Of course, your local thrift
store is another place to check.
Peace,
Dave Haucke
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brandie
Mick Spencer wrote:
>
> Hey All,
> At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is a Fred Perry Shirt? I've seen
> people mention them in some sort of relation to Ska. Is this some kind
> of shirt Ska fans would be likely to wear? Is it a 2-tone thing? Or
> what? Thanks.
> ---Mick
> -----------------------------------------------
> Mick Spencer mailto:nspe...@epix.net
> http://www.epix.net/~nspencer/
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> -----------------------------------------------
yep, perry was a tennis player, he won wimbelton (please dont feel the
need to correct my spelling...) three times in a row. and he was a
skinhead. there's a whole line of tennis clothing that bears his name..
shirts, jackets, socks, tennis skirts and the likes. lots of ppl wear
the stuff in europe.. "shirts by fred, 'nough said" was a polular
bilboard i believe. in the us (from my observance) its mostly either an
upperclass tennis snooty thing or a skinhead thing. kinda ironic, eh?
of course i wear em to show my respect, and to look smart as hell!
cheers!
bj
Brian J Aulisio
: At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is a Fred Perry Shirt? I've seen
Uh uh uh.....you lose 2 scene points for not knowing! It's just a polo
shirt with that little wreath that all those bald-headed ones of all walks
of politics wear; some say Fred was a white power guy, others say he was
gay, but, I know for a fact: He was a tennis player with his own brand of
shirt, and probably got quite rich off of the mods, and later on
skinheads.....same goes for the guy who makes those skinny-ass
suspenders...that lucky bloke must be rolling in it.....what does it have
to do with ska? Absolutely nothing, really, a lotta ska fans wear 'em I
guess....you get more scene points that way...
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brandie
PaSkafreak wrote:
>
> hey, while we're on the subject, where can i get some Freds? i found a
> great fred perry sweater at the mission but i can't find any place that
> sells em except through mail order from england. any stores in philly that
> sells em or any place on the east coast i can order them from? help!
>
> cheers! ~Monica
two tone mailing order and crash and burn and the merc in london all
carry fred perry stuff.
however, i have found the best place to get them is small second hand
stores in the suburbs. kids look for em in the city and lots of old
farts have em layin around in their houses and donate them. ive found 3
*great* shirts in very good condition.. and have passed over a few
really ugly ones too..
cheers
-brandie
brandie
there's other shirts besides the polo ones.. theres a whole line of
shit. it all looks quite smart too! i know i already repliedto this
post, but for some reason i feel the need to once again. theres allkinds
acool shit.. t shirts, polo's, skirts, socks, jackets, pants.. blah blah
so CHECK IT OUT. ok, ats all
cheers
bj
Peter Siegel
PaSkafreak wrote:
>
> hey, while we're on the subject, where can i get some Freds? i found a
> great fred perry sweater at the mission but i can't find any place that
> sells em except through mail order from england. any stores in philly that
> sells em or any place on the east coast i can order them from? help!
>
> cheers! ~Monica
Try TJ Maxx this time of year.
Peter
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On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Mick Spencer wrote:
>
> Hey All,
> At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is a Fred Perry Shirt? I've seen
> people mention them in some sort of relation to Ska. Is this some kind
> of shirt Ska fans would be likely to wear? Is it a 2-tone thing? Or
> what? Thanks.
> ---Mick
its those collared polo-type shirts with the laurel wreath that those
crazy skinheads wear. if you see one at a ska show its very likely that
was a skinhead.
paul
bssc
Jeremy
Also try Berlington Coat Factory. In Atlanta Crash and Burn.
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Peter Siegel <psi...@roinet.com> wrote in article
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molly b.
alright. the Fred Perry polo shirt or sweater is a sort of identifying
symbol for mods as skins as are the red & blue targets (or RAF), or the
69 or crucified skinhead. it's basically a brand of tennis wear that is
expensive, $30-50 a pop. sometimes you can find them used at yr local
Salvy's or St. Vinnie's. just look for the gold crest on the left
brest.
-molly b.
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Jeremy
Fred perry was the first person to win at Wimbeton. Or how ever you spell
it. He had a tennis racket that was in the shape of the logo. Mods wore
them first, because the Mods later became what we know as skins.
Jenn Starkman <bb...@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote in article
<5k3pkb$l...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...
> In article <336002...@epix.net>, Mick Spencer <nspe...@epix.net>
wrote:
> >
> >Hey All,
> >At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is a Fred Perry Shirt?
>
> Fred Perry was a British tennis player. The shirts referred to are from
his
> eponymous clothing line. The label is popular among skinheads and mods
> because the clothes look smart, and are part of the traditional wardrobe
of
> both subcultures.
>
> The Fred Perrys mentioned here usually refer to the polo-style shirts
that are
> most popular, but you can get Fred Perry sweaters and, for the girls,
mini
> tennis-skirts as well, among other things.
>
> >I've seen people mention them in some sort of relation to Ska.
>
> Actually, they're generally mentioned here on the ska NG, but
specifically in
> relation to skinheads, etc.
>
> >Is this some kind of shirt Ska fans would be likely to wear?
>
> Not unless they happened also to be skinheads or mods, or they just liked
the
> shirts. There's no particular reason, though, why your average ska fan
would
> be wearing a Fred.
>
> >Is it a 2-tone thing?
>
> Nope! Freds were popular among the above-mentioned subcultures long
before
> 2-Tone existed.
>
> Jenn
>
>
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Jeremy wrote:
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> Fred perry was the first person to win at Wimbeton. Or how ever you spell
> it. He had a tennis racket that was in the shape of the logo. Mods wore
> them first, because the Mods later became what we know as skins.
Actually, Fred Perry was the last Englishman to win Wimbledon. What made
FP
special was that he was a working class kid at a time that tennis was an
upperclass sport. So he became a working class hero.
ramone
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Jenn Starkman
Ummm...this is mostly correct, but for the sake of people not being misled
(not to be obnoxious), you might want to note that...
In article <33669B...@rt66.com>, "molly b." <mi...@rt66.com> wrote:
>alright. the Fred Perry polo shirt or sweater is a sort of identifying
>symbol for mods as skins as are the red & blue targets (or RAF), or the
>69 or crucified skinhead. it's basically a brand of tennis wear that is
>expensive, $30-50 a pop.
Actually, depending on where you get them, they're not always that expensive.
Mail-order is often the most expensive, though also often the best quality.
However, I've heard of people finding them at TJ Maxx for around $20-$25, or
at other departments stores in the sections where they sell tennis wear, for
not a lot of money. Looking in thrift shops, as mentioned below, is always a
good bet.
>sometimes you can find them used at yr local Salvy's or St. Vinnie's. just
>look for the gold crest on the left brest.
Ummm...I'm not sure what you mean by the "gold crest", but the laurels (the
distinguishing design on the breast of a Fred) are in different colours on
different shirts (kinda like Polo used to do), so just look for the "Fred
Perry" label and the distinguishing laurels, as they won't necessarily be in
gold (I've got Freds with navy, burgundy, and light-blue laurels).
Jenn
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On 30 Apr 1997, Jeremy wrote:
> Fred perry was the first person to win at Wimbeton. Or how ever you spell
> it. He had a tennis racket that was in the shape of the logo. Mods wore
> them first, because the Mods later became what we know as skins.
umm i don't think he was the first person to win wimbledon. he had a
laurel wreath racket? news to me. and it was the hard mods, working class
toughs who started cropping their hair short and dressing in bens, jeans,
and boots for street fighting that became skins.
paul
Courtney
: >69 or crucified skinhead. it's basically a brand of tennis wear that is
: >expensive, $30-50 a pop.
: Actually, depending on where you get them, they're not always that expensive.
: Mail-order is often the most expensive, though also often the best quality.
: However, I've heard of people finding them at TJ Maxx for around $20-$25, or
: at other departments stores in the sections where they sell tennis wear, for
: not a lot of money. Looking in thrift shops, as mentioned below, is always a
: good bet.
or, you can go for what i found to be the best bet...hit a third world country.
you think i'm kidding? you can get em for a buck or two. they're all OVER the place.
-courtney (who is still kicking herself for leaving a fred when the guy was trying
to charge 4 bucks for it because she was a white tourist! so much for
principles...and it was SHARP too. damn!)
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<umm i don't think he was the first person to win wimbledon. he had a
laurel wreath racket? news to me. and it was the hard mods, working
class toughs who started cropping their hair short and dressing in bens,
jeans, and boots for street fighting that became skins.>
actually there was this crossover during the transition of mod to skin.
mods were city kids. they had really urban jobs. the mod era was over
by '68. the doc workers who worked with some of the rockers really dug
the mod styles, music and scooters. that's where the crossover is.
while quite a few mods went for the skin style and lifestyle, a few of
them held onto the whole mod thing until the '70s when they adopted
punk. the rockers either became punks or got corporate jobs and
disappeared. this mod to punk thing was pretty common. that's what my
mother did.
now about the Fred Perry's and mods. like paul said, back then it really
wasn't a status thing as it because and still is. they were just the
nice brand of shirts. the mods wore them all the time because their
work clothes and the clothes they wore to shows and rumbles weren't much
different. so there you go.
-molly b.
local pop culture history guru
Jenn Starkman
In article <5kfu4o$v...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
Court? Next time you go to Cameroon, can I stow away in your bag? <grin>
Courtney
: >or, you can go for what i found to be the best bet...hit a third world
: >all OVER the place.
: >
: >-courtney (who is still kicking herself for leaving a fred when the guy was
: >trying to charge 4 bucks for it because she was a white tourist! so much for
: >principles...and it was SHARP too. damn!)
: Court? Next time you go to Cameroon, can I stow away in your bag? <grin>
COURSE!!! ...but can we leave commander what at home? hee hee.
-court
Jenn Starkman
In article <5knp1g$f...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
coch...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Courtney) wrote:
>Jenn Starkman wrote:
>: >or, you can go for what i found to be the best bet...hit a third world
>: >country. you think i'm kidding? you can get em for a buck or two.
>: >they're all OVER the place.
>: >
>: >-courtney (who is still kicking herself for leaving a fred when the guy
>: >was trying to charge 4 bucks for it because she was a white tourist! so
>: >much for principles...and it was SHARP too. damn!)
>
>: Court? Next time you go to Cameroon, can I stow away in your bag? <grin>
>
>COURSE!!! ...but can we leave commander what at home? hee hee.
Yeah, we'll just promise to bring him back a $2 Fred if he behaves himself...
<GriN>
