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Indie Kid

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Sep 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/21/97
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Okay, I know there are millions of death rumors that float around
these news groups every day, but here's what I heard:

1. On CNN tonight (9/20) they said that Danielle Steele's son died of
a drug overdose.

2. Somebody once told me that the singer, or someone in Link 80, was
the son of Danielle Steele.

3. It was widely posted that Link 80 recently broke up because someone
in the band (possibly) had a drug problem.

So, if you put these together it COULD be that they are all related. I
don't know for sure, though. Anyone have the facts?

Fishstylee

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Sep 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/21/97
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>
>1. On CNN tonight (9/20) they said that Danielle Steele's son died of
>a drug overdose.
>
>2. Somebody once told me that the singer, or someone in Link 80, was
>the son of Danielle Steele.
>
>3. It was widely posted that Link 80 recently broke up because someone
>in the band (possibly) had a drug problem.
>
>So, if you put these together it COULD be that they are all related. I
>don't know for sure, though. Anyone have the facts?

yes, link 80's singer, nick, is danielle steele's son, and he did have
problems with heroin. the last thing i heard was that nick was trying to
kick the habit and his mom had hired some sort of bodyguard to follow him
around and keep an eye on him.

-carla

FO

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Someone in Link 80 is Danielle Steele's son. I'm pretty sure it was the
singer. I'm not sure if the Overdose stuff is true, but about a month and a
half ago, he overdosed on heroin; he made it out of that one though. So, I
wouldn't be surprised if he did die of an overdose. Link 80, if you ever
talked to them, you will find out that they don't know too much about ska.
Mike Park was paid 55,000 by Mrs. Steele to put them on Asian Man Records.
They have a driver that gets paid 90 bucks an hour to drive these KIDS
around. What kind of shit is that???? SO, as i said before, he did
overdose once, who's to say that he didn't do it again??

FO
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Joseph Selby

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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In article <3425df68....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,

Indie Kid <liq...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Okay, I know there are millions of death rumors that float around
>these news groups every day, but here's what I heard:
>
>1. On CNN tonight (9/20) they said that Danielle Steele's son died of
>a drug overdose.
>

True.

>2. Somebody once told me that the singer, or someone in Link 80, was
>the son of Danielle Steele.
>

Also true.

>3. It was widely posted that Link 80 recently broke up because someone
>in the band (possibly) had a drug problem.
>

True, but let me state, for the record, that the dear departed lad was far
from the only member of Link 80 with a drug problem. They were banned
from Andy Ernst's studio after they finished his record because of the
damage they did to his equipment (not because they were so punk, but
because they were so fucked up that they couldn't help but break lots of
stuff). Andy told me that his experience of working with them was so bad
that it actually made him consider not working with punk/ska bands at all
anymore.

>So, if you put these together it COULD be that they are all related. I
>don't know for sure, though. Anyone have the facts?

Well, yes, the singer in Link 80 was Danielle Steele's son and yes he died
on Saturday of an apparent overdose in his home in Hayward. According to
the report I heard, his new band, Knowledge, had just played their first
show on Friday night.

-TEX
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The Repo Man

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Nick died of a herion overdose, yes. He had been trying to stay clean,
but he continued to go back to it. It's sad, he was a good guy in
person. I was supposed to play a show with his new band Knowledge.

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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The Repo Man <skan...@microweb.com> wrote in article
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> Nick died of a herion overdose, yes. He had been trying to stay clean,
> but he continued to go back to it. It's sad, he was a good guy in
> person. I was supposed to play a show with his new band Knowledge.
>
> --


Did anyone else see this on hard copy? Nick was Danielle Steele's son, &
they did a story about his death..aparently his dad died the same way...

;)crystal

Member of the Naked Cult

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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On 22 Sep 1997, Joseph Selby wrote:

> >1. On CNN tonight (9/20) they said that Danielle Steele's son died of
> >a drug overdose.
>
> True.

Third time's a charm. #1 landed him the hospital, #2 was WHILE
in the hospital...

> >2. Somebody once told me that the singer, or someone in Link 80, was
> >the son of Danielle Steele.
>
> Also true.
>
> >3. It was widely posted that Link 80 recently broke up because someone
> >in the band (possibly) had a drug problem.

I was under the impression that Nick was replaced and Link 80
lives.

> >So, if you put these together it COULD be that they are all related. I
> >don't know for sure, though. Anyone have the facts?
>
> Well, yes, the singer in Link 80 was Danielle Steele's son and yes he died
> on Saturday of an apparent overdose in his home in Hayward. According to
> the report I heard, his new band, Knowledge, had just played their first
> show on Friday night.

Dammit, Joe, it was MY friends he was trying to beat up, I'M
sposed to be the Traina expert here.
I am a bit interested in reading the articles, Joe... would you
mind saving them?

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Joseph Selby

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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In article <342697E6...@po.cwru.edu>, FO <mm...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
>Someone in Link 80 is Danielle Steele's son. I'm pretty sure it was the
>singer. I'm not sure if the Overdose stuff is true, but about a month and a
>half ago, he overdosed on heroin; he made it out of that one though. So, I
>wouldn't be surprised if he did die of an overdose. Link 80, if you ever
>talked to them, you will find out that they don't know too much about ska.
>Mike Park was paid 55,000 by Mrs. Steele to put them on Asian Man Records.
>They have a driver that gets paid 90 bucks an hour to drive these KIDS
>around. What kind of shit is that???? SO, as i said before, he did
>overdose once, who's to say that he didn't do it again??
>

The departed one's name was Nick Traina, yes he was the singer in Link 80
and yes he was Danielle Steele's son. There was a front page story about
his death in the SF Chronicle this morning. According to the story he was
manic depressive and the person you've referred to as his "driver" was
actually a psychiatric worker who had to accompany him everywhere to make
sure he didn't hurt himself.

The one thing I did resent about the article was that it implied that he
was only an occassional heroin user and outright said that the band was
clean, didn't do drugs or ever drink when I have personally seen the lot
of them totally trashed on more than one occassion. The whole article
bassically was supposed to be a message to parents about children with
depression when what it should have been about was how fucked up the
heroin problem is and how easy it is for kids to get sucked in by it.

Whatever. I hope his death wises a few people up.

Member of the Naked Cult

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, The Repo Man wrote:

> Nick died of a herion overdose, yes. He had been trying to stay clean,
> but he continued to go back to it. It's sad, he was a good guy in
> person. I was supposed to play a show with his new band Knowledge.

Define "good guy". Well, I had no personal issue with him but he
did sort of threaten most of my friends.
Not that I'm glad he died. But let not the legend of St. Nick
gain a foothold.

leigh

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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levab wrote:
>
> tex:

>
> >
> > The whole article
> > bassically was supposed to be a message to parents about children with
> > depression when what it should have been about was how fucked up the
> > heroin problem is and how easy it is for kids to get sucked in by it.
>
> both are problems tex. just because you see heroin as the larger
> problem doesn't mean you should scoff at the problem of depression.
>
> levab

I don't think he was scoffing at the idea of depression, just saying it
wasn't the real issue in this case.

Leigh

levab

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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Joseph Selby

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970923...@crl6.crl.com>,

Member of the Naked Cult <ale...@crl.com> wrote:
>On 22 Sep 1997, Joseph Selby wrote:
[snip]

> Dammit, Joe, it was MY friends he was trying to beat up, I'M
>sposed to be the Traina expert here.

Sorry. I was just filling in in your absence. You may have the podium
now.

> I am a bit interested in reading the articles, Joe... would you
>mind saving them?

try http://www.sfgate.com

Do an article search for Nick Traina or Danielle Steel.

Joseph Selby

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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In article <34285F...@acadia.net>, leigh <le...@acadia.net> wrote:
>I don't think he was scoffing at the idea of depression, just saying it
>wasn't the real issue in this case.
>

Well, I was trying to say that Danielle Steel apparently suffers from the
delusion that her (now dead) son's problem was purely medical in nature.
She actually said something to the effect of "if he'd only taken his
medicine..."

That's total bullshit.

You don't OD yourself because your meds aren't working. You OD because
you hate your life and because your angry and want to lash out. A person
who commits suicide is only a couple of degrees away from the guy who
walks into a building with a machine gun and mows down a dozen people he's
never met. Both are expressions of pain and frustration. Both are
attempts to get someone to recognize their pain.

Here's my (admittedly very slanted) analysis: If Ms. Steel had given her
son something other than money, perhaps love and attention, maybe he
wouldn't have been depressed in the first place. I've seen this all too
many times. There are just some people on this planet who should not be
allowed to have children. Children are not pets.

Rob Sewell

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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Gee, ever wonder if a mother who essentially bought a kid his band and
tour has anything to do with his tragic demise..?? I would like to
think that if my child was dealing with a problem like depression I
wouldn't send them on the music curcuit... let's face it, the road is
full of drugs, booze, and a assundry temptation.... I gotta think that
depression wasn't the true catalyst when he decided to start
"experimenting" with drugs...


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Joanie

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Sep 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/25/97
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In article <60bfs3$h...@fish.hooked.net>
toy...@fish.hooked.net (Joseph Selby) writes:

> You don't OD yourself because your meds aren't working. You OD because
> you hate your life and because your angry and want to lash out. A person
> who commits suicide is only a couple of degrees away from the guy who
> walks into a building with a machine gun and mows down a dozen people he's
> never met. Both are expressions of pain and frustration. Both are
> attempts to get someone to recognize their pain.


Everyone's talking like you know for sure he *meant* to do this, is
that true? I mean, people sometimes make mistakes when they get an
esp. powerful bag o' dope.


Joanie

Glenn Rubenstein

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Sep 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/25/97
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Nick was weird.. he could go from being really intelligent and talking
about record distribution, tours, and shows one second to discussing
kicking someone in the head for fun the next.

I liked him in a strange way. I just hate to see that a lot of people who
dissed him awhile back are acting like they were down with him right now.
We never hang much, but from booking his band to playing with Link 80, I
enjoyed most of the time I was around him. And no one ever made me laugh
so much stealing cookies from the Phoenix box office. I'm going to miss
him.

Glenn
Phoenix Theater/Headboard

Doctor Badass

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Sep 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/25/97
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I am now officially as tired of Nick Traina as I am of Princess Dead.
--Dr. Badass

The Repo Man

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Sep 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/26/97
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Member of the Naked Cult wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, The Repo Man wrote:
>
> > Nick died of a herion overdose, yes. He had been trying to stay clean,
> > but he continued to go back to it. It's sad, he was a good guy in
> > person. I was supposed to play a show with his new band Knowledge.
>
> Define "good guy". Well, I had no personal issue with him but he
> did sort of threaten most of my friends.
> Not that I'm glad he died. But let not the legend of St. Nick
> gain a foothold.
>

He had an image, he acted tougher than he was, honestly, if you were on
his good side, he was a sweet guy.

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He's sweet at times, he's a prick at times,
he's the cynical sarcastic Gen-X posterboy
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So nyah!!

matt

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Sep 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/27/97
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970923...@crl6.crl.com>, Member

of the Naked Cult <ale...@crl.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, The Repo Man wrote:
>
> > Nick died of a herion overdose, yes. He had been trying to stay clean,
> > but he continued to go back to it. It's sad, he was a good guy in
> > person. I was supposed to play a show with his new band Knowledge.
>
> Define "good guy". Well, I had no personal issue with him but he
> did sort of threaten most of my friends.
> Not that I'm glad he died. But let not the legend of St. Nick
> gain a foothold.
>

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Nick was a good guy. you never knew him and never will. let him go. the
guy was awesome. suppose you passed. i'm sure you've done some fucked up
things, and i'm also sure they'd be forgotten. we all fuck up. nick paid
for it with his life. he was a great guy and no one has any right to judge
him now. so don't okay? thank you.
matt

matt

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Sep 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/27/97
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gee, i'm sure you know everything. i'm sure you've walked the mile in
nick's shoes. i'm sure you spent the last two and half years with him
almost every day. i'm sure you know all about his mothers relationship
with him. and since you know almost everything already, like why and when
nick started 'expeirimenting'... i'll you let you know one more thing...
you know shit. nothing. you haven't a clue. so don't talk like you do.
don't pretend you do. don't be another pathetic renob acting like you know
everything cos you don't. thank you, matt.

> >You don't OD yourself because your meds aren't working. You OD because
> >you hate your life and because your angry and want to lash out. A person
> >who commits suicide is only a couple of degrees away from the guy who
> >walks into a building with a machine gun and mows down a dozen people he's
> >never met. Both are expressions of pain and frustration. Both are
> >attempts to get someone to recognize their pain.
> >

Member of the Naked Cult

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Sep 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/28/97
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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997, matt wrote:

> > Define "good guy". Well, I had no personal issue with him but he
> > did sort of threaten most of my friends.
> > Not that I'm glad he died. But let not the legend of St. Nick
> > gain a foothold.
>

> Nick was a good guy. you never knew him and never will. let him go. the
> guy was awesome. suppose you passed. i'm sure you've done some fucked up
> things, and i'm also sure they'd be forgotten. we all fuck up. nick paid
> for it with his life. he was a great guy and no one has any right to judge
> him now. so don't okay? thank you.

Never judged him for his drug abuse, just for his people abuse.
But like I said, it's not like I'm saying "Good riddance." Just
pointing out he's not the junkies' answer to Mother Theresa.

Walter Hubbard

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Sep 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/29/97
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On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, The Repo Man wrote:

> Member of the Naked Cult wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, The Repo Man wrote:
> >
> > > Nick died of a herion overdose, yes. He had been trying to stay clean,
> > > but he continued to go back to it. It's sad, he was a good guy in
> > > person. I was supposed to play a show with his new band Knowledge.
> >

> > Define "good guy". Well, I had no personal issue with him but he
> > did sort of threaten most of my friends.
> > Not that I'm glad he died. But let not the legend of St. Nick
> > gain a foothold.
> >
>

> He had an image, he acted tougher than he was, honestly, if you were on
> his good side, he was a sweet guy.
>
> --
> !@#$%^&*?~!@#$%^&*?!@#$%^&*?~!@#$%^&*?~!@#$%^&*?~!@#$%^&*?~
> Alex Navarro
> He's sweet at times, he's a prick at times,
> he's the cynical sarcastic Gen-X posterboy
> wannabe punkass fucker that you wish you were,
> and he's available through mail order.
> skan...@microweb.com
> http://the-repo-man.base.org/
> So nyah!!
>
>

nick and all the guys in his band Link 80 were pretty nice, once you got
past his 'hard shell' so to speak. i remember the first show i saw them
at, in Sonora, CA with the former Janitors against Apartheid, Alien Spy,
and 1 other...the drummer, trumpet player and nick were all in the pit
just having a good time. they weren't being pricks, just enjoying
themselves. even though nick totally died on his own accord, he still
shouldn't have died as young as he did.

--Walter Hubbard
wlrhu...@puc.edu


Blackie

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Sep 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/29/97
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In article <60bfs3$h...@fish.hooked.net>
toy...@fish.hooked.net (Joseph Selby) writes:

> You don't OD yourself because your meds aren't working. You OD because
> you hate your life and because your angry and want to lash out. A person
> who commits suicide is only a couple of degrees away from the guy who
> walks into a building with a machine gun and mows down a dozen people he's
> never met. Both are expressions of pain and frustration. Both are
> attempts to get someone to recognize their pain.

Yeah, joe, I'd havta say that he probably od'd on some good dope by
accident, somtimes you just get the bag that's got the good shit,
you know? So I disagree.
I'm still sticking to the story that he was a good guy, and its a
terrible waste. People can say what they want, but I believe its just
not ok to talk shit about a dead person, unless they are some kind of
godless monster who harmed many. Thats just me. What do I know anyway? I
play bass for fang. But nick and I were friends once, and its sad when
people die. I dont go to funerals of people who die from drugs, because
if I did, I'd never have time to brush my teeth.
-Josh

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