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David Dalton
Mar 25, 2014, 11:13:15 PM3/25/14
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I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
bishop?
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)
I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
bishop?
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)
Kenny McCormack
Mar 26, 2014, 4:32:26 AM3/26/14
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In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
say:
| In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and
| Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the
| Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church
| considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person
| attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs
| excommunication. The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination
| following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she
| told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would
| have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she
| indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary.
--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender
Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?
Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
>I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
>denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
>bishop?
Pretty much. Wikipedia (you have heard of that, haven't you?) has this to
>I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
>I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
>denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
>bishop?
say:
| In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and
| Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the
| Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church
| considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person
| attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs
| excommunication. The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination
| following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she
| told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would
| have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she
| indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary.
--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender
Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?
Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...
PATRICK
Mar 26, 2014, 5:39:59 PM3/26/14
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:43:15 -0230, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>
wrote:
>I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
>I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
>denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
>bishop?
Although her status is not recognised by the mainstream Catholic
Church, O'Connor has sought to make amends by apologising for tearing
up a portrait of the Pope, and donating IR£150,000 to the bishop who
ordained her.
She gave the money to Bishop Michael Cox, who ordained her, as "an act
of charity" to set up a healing centre for Ireland's travelling
community in County Offaly.
Another dissident bishop, Pat Buckley, called the donation
"disturbing" and said there was a question of whether simony - the act
of purchasing a sacrament - had taken place.
wrote:
>I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
>I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
>denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
>bishop?
Church, O'Connor has sought to make amends by apologising for tearing
up a portrait of the Pope, and donating IR£150,000 to the bishop who
ordained her.
She gave the money to Bishop Michael Cox, who ordained her, as "an act
of charity" to set up a healing centre for Ireland's travelling
community in County Offaly.
Another dissident bishop, Pat Buckley, called the donation
"disturbing" and said there was a question of whether simony - the act
of purchasing a sacrament - had taken place.
•RLMeasures
Mar 26, 2014, 9:44:52 PM3/26/14
to
David Dalton
Mar 26, 2014, 10:01:21 PM3/26/14
to
In article <lgu3aq$be7$1...@news.xmission.com>,
been no reply. But in posting to newsgroups I was
hoping to stir up discussion. Google and Wikipedia
(and more recently Facebook and Twitter) have led to
the decline of Usenet.
> ) has this to
> say:
>
> | In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and
> | Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the
> | Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church
> | considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person
> | attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs
> | excommunication. The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination
> | following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she
> | told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would
> | have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she
> | indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary.
Thanks,
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Moon in the window; a bird on the pole
Can always find a millionaire to shovel all the coal" (Tom Waits)
gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
> In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> >I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> >I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> >denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> >bishop?
>
> Pretty much. Wikipedia (you have heard of that, haven't you?
Yes, and I would have checked it tonight if there had
> In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> >I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> >I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> >denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> >bishop?
>
> Pretty much. Wikipedia (you have heard of that, haven't you?
been no reply. But in posting to newsgroups I was
hoping to stir up discussion. Google and Wikipedia
(and more recently Facebook and Twitter) have led to
the decline of Usenet.
> ) has this to
> say:
>
> | In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and
> | Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the
> | Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church
> | considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person
> | attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs
> | excommunication. The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination
> | following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she
> | told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would
> | have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she
> | indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary.
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
Can always find a millionaire to shovel all the coal" (Tom Waits)
David Dalton
Mar 26, 2014, 10:35:23 PM3/26/14
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> I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> bishop?
She has also been influenced by Rastafarianism.
> I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> bishop?
But in a Facebook post of today, linked to
http://www.sineadoconnor.com/sineads_post_type/12-copyright-sinead-oconno
r/
she effectively says she is now Hindu.
Anyway after reading that post I am looking forward
to her new album, and hope she has no more physical
or mental health problems.
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
Kenny McCormack
Mar 26, 2014, 10:53:37 PM3/26/14
to
In article <dalton-D0643D....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
...
>> | In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and
>> | Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the
>> | Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church
>> | considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person
>> | attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs
>> | excommunication. The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination
>> | following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she
>> | told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would
>> | have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she
>> | indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary.
>
>Thanks,
You are welcome.
--
Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts
have no place in organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
...
>Yes, and I would have checked it tonight if there had
>been no reply. But in posting to newsgroups I was
>hoping to stir up discussion. Google and Wikipedia
>(and more recently Facebook and Twitter) have led to
>the decline of Usenet.
Agreed. And well put, sir!
>been no reply. But in posting to newsgroups I was
>hoping to stir up discussion. Google and Wikipedia
>(and more recently Facebook and Twitter) have led to
>the decline of Usenet.
>> | In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and
>> | Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the
>> | Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church
>> | considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person
>> | attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs
>> | excommunication. The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination
>> | following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she
>> | told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would
>> | have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she
>> | indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary.
>
>Thanks,
--
Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts
have no place in organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
•RLMeasures
Mar 27, 2014, 6:46:37 AM3/27/14
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In article <dalton-910DD4....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
that claims to be God's earthly rep. ?
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>
> > I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> > I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> > denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> > bishop?
>
> She has also been influenced by Rastafarianism.
>
> But in a Facebook post of today, linked to
> http://www.sineadoconnor.com/sineads_post_type/12-copyright-sinead-oconno
> r/
> she effectively says she is now Hindu.
>
> Anyway after reading that post I am looking forward
> to her new album, and hope she has no more physical
> or mental health problems.
• so you are still torqued over her tearing up a picture of some codger
> In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>
> > I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> > I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> > denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> > bishop?
>
> She has also been influenced by Rastafarianism.
>
> But in a Facebook post of today, linked to
> http://www.sineadoconnor.com/sineads_post_type/12-copyright-sinead-oconno
> r/
> she effectively says she is now Hindu.
>
> Anyway after reading that post I am looking forward
> to her new album, and hope she has no more physical
> or mental health problems.
that claims to be God's earthly rep. ?
PATRICK
Mar 27, 2014, 1:20:43 PM3/27/14
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He paid for the "certificate."
PATRICK
Mar 27, 2014, 1:21:51 PM3/27/14
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That would be me.
•RLMeasures
Mar 27, 2014, 4:00:26 PM3/27/14
to
•RLMeasures
Mar 27, 2014, 4:02:40 PM3/27/14
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David Dalton
Mar 27, 2014, 10:16:41 PM3/27/14
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In article <r-2703141...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures)
wrote:
She has bipolar disorder, and I think she talks about it
on her web page, or at least has in the past.
wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:46:37 -0700, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures) wrote:
> >
> > >In article <dalton-910DD4....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> > >David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> > >> > I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> > >> > denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> > >> > bishop?
> > >>
> > >> She has also been influenced by Rastafarianism.
> > >>
> > >> But in a Facebook post of today, linked to
> > >> http://www.sineadoconnor.com/sineads_post_type/12-copyright-sinead-oconno
> > >> r/
> > >> she effectively says she is now Hindu.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway after reading that post I am looking forward
> > >> to her new album, and hope she has no more physical
> > >> or mental health problems.
> > >
> > >? so you are still torqued over her tearing up a picture of some codger
> >
> > >In article <dalton-910DD4....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> > >David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <dalton-47BE87....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
> > >> David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I have read that Sinead O'Connor has been ordained, but
> > >> > I thought she was Catholic. So has she joined another
> > >> > denomination or was she ordained by a rebel Catholic
> > >> > bishop?
> > >>
> > >> She has also been influenced by Rastafarianism.
> > >>
> > >> But in a Facebook post of today, linked to
> > >> http://www.sineadoconnor.com/sineads_post_type/12-copyright-sinead-oconno
> > >> r/
> > >> she effectively says she is now Hindu.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway after reading that post I am looking forward
> > >> to her new album, and hope she has no more physical
> > >> or mental health problems.
> > >
> > >that claims to be God's earthly rep. ?
> >
> > No....
> > That would be me.
>
> ? what mental health problems?
> >
> > No....
> > That would be me.
>
She has bipolar disorder, and I think she talks about it
on her web page, or at least has in the past.
•RLMeasures
Mar 28, 2014, 10:19:36 AM3/28/14
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In article <dalton-82BE56....@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
• bipolar is not very scary. Schizos and father rapers are. Toss in
mathamphetamine and we could heading for major grief and even possible
excision of boy parts..
cheers DD.
mathamphetamine and we could heading for major grief and even possible
excision of boy parts..
cheers DD.
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