Fred MacMurray and Baritone Sax
Timothy Hesla
don't know). He had a bari sax that looked like it had a tenor-type
neck. Was this for real, or another art-director decision (like turning
the mouthpiece over or showing images of an alto sax player over a bari
sax sound track)
cheers
th
ASILANT57
Fred McMurray was actually a well-known
Bari player before he became more well-
known as an actor . He was one of the
regular session guys up at Minton's in
the mid-late 30's , and was tight w/ people
like Monk and Clyde Hart , etc.
He used to play sessions all nite and
then go to auditions during the day . He
was one of the 1st people to really employ
tri-tone substitutions and the like .
He used a tenor neck on Bari so that
he could play " in between the cracks ",
so-to-speak ; a really advanced thinker ,
in terms of harmony , anticipating cats
like Ornette, Dolphy , and Shepp by some
30 yrs . He had developed a 5 8va range
on the Baritone before Hamiett Bluiett
was a gleam in his daddy's 3rd eye ....
I'm in the process of trying to swindle that
customized bari away from Fred's senile
old widow ; it was a special model w/ a
detachable bell .
Any idea what this might be worth ????
-----
~ dave williams
B.B. Bean
band work, but didn't realize he was a "real" player. Who would have
guessed it?
Ob ref - did any of his three sons take up the horn?
BB
On 17 Jan 2000 21:50:24 GMT, ASILANT57 wrote:
>Fred McMurray was actually a well-known
> Bari player before he became more well-
> known as an actor . He was one of the
> regular session guys up at Minton's in
> the mid-late 30's , and was tight w/ people
> like Monk and Clyde Hart , etc.
> He used to play sessions all nite and
> then go to auditions during the day . He
> was one of the 1st people to really employ
> tri-tone substitutions and the like .
> He used a tenor neck on Bari so that
> he could play " in between the cracks ",
> so-to-speak ; a really advanced thinker ,
> in terms of harmony , anticipating cats
> like Ornette, Dolphy , and Shepp by some
> 30 yrs . He had developed a 5 8va range
> on the Baritone before Hamiett Bluiett
> was a gleam in his daddy's 3rd eye ....
-
B.B. Bean - Have horn, will travel bbb...@beancotton.com
Peach Orchard, MO http://www.beancotton.com/bbbean.shtml
Paul Lindemeyer
player (tenor/bari), he considerably more square that that...:-) He came
up during the early 30s with straight dance bands like George Olsen's
Music. He even sang on some of their records.
ASILANT57 wrote:
>
> Fred McMurray was actually a well-known
> Bari player before he became more well-
> known as an actor . He was one of the
> regular session guys up at Minton's in
> the mid-late 30's , and was tight w/ people
> like Monk and Clyde Hart , etc.
> He used to play sessions all nite and
> then go to auditions during the day . He
> was one of the 1st people to really employ
> tri-tone substitutions and the like .
> He used a tenor neck on Bari so that
> he could play " in between the cracks ",
> so-to-speak ; a really advanced thinker ,
> in terms of harmony , anticipating cats
> like Ornette, Dolphy , and Shepp by some
> 30 yrs . He had developed a 5 8va range
> on the Baritone before Hamiett Bluiett
> was a gleam in his daddy's 3rd eye ....
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Gyrofrog
> Fred McMurray [...]used a tenor neck on Bari so that
> he could play " in between the cracks ",
> so-to-speak ; a really advanced thinker ,
> in terms of harmony , anticipating cats
> like Ornette, Dolphy , and Shepp by some
> 30 yrs [...]
On a related note, most folks don't realize that his co-star, William
Frawley, was an accomplished sackbut player. This started out as a
Vaudeville/novelty type of act with his brother, but after a long time
he started to approach the instrument more seriously. Whether this was
influenced by his association with McMurray is unknown. In any event,
he did record at least two sessions, none of which were released but
were rumored to have been considered by then-new labels Impulse and ESP.
--
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Glenn Wilson
the cast and crew of I Love Lucy. It's well known what a killer alto
player Lucy was (especially when hopped up on Vitavetavegamin).
Glenn
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Paul Lindemeyer
> On a related note, most folks don't realize that his co-star, William
> Frawley, was an accomplished sackbut player. This started out as a
> Vaudeville/novelty type of act with his brother
Oh yes, I remember them...Which one was Sack and which one was But?
Zephyr
the blues with Big Joe Williams and the Count Basie crew. Ricky sings a
little, but mostly drums. Lucy's alto playing is dead on, but her tone is
little thin. She was a big enough woman, I wouldh've liked to hear her on
tenor! Do you suppose she ever traded mouthpeices with Fred Mac Murray?
Did Ricky ever record with Dizzy and Chano Pozo?
Inquring minds want to know...
Eric Koeller
Vermont
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B.B. Bean
>On a related note, most folks don't realize that his co-star, William
>Frawley, was an accomplished sackbut player.
sackbut?
Mitch
Did I win?
Mitch
Gerry
Bean <bbb...@beancotton.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:31:19 GMT, Gyrofrog wrote:
>
> >On a related note, most folks don't realize that his co-star, William
> >Frawley, was an accomplished sackbut player.
>
> sackbut?
It's the predecessor of Trombone produced with far less exacting
tolerances back before they could really make a bell that flared well.
Thus it doesn't flare much at all and has a very stuffy sound.
I believe Frawley actually played the trombone. Additionally on My
Three Sons the sheep dog was in fact an accomplished bones player
having mastered many forms of odd meter. Sadly the dog met his demise
when beaten to death at an ATM in Santa Monica many years ago.
MacMurray was additionally well known for his mountain-climbing feats
having scaled K2 (not to it's peak but for from it), with the added
difficulty of his left hand being tied behind his back. He fell some
1400 feet to his apparent death but was revived at which point, truth
is stranger than science, he could play the oboe. This without a
moment's training.
I think it has already been covered that he was, genetically, a woman.
And a mightly ugly one at that.
And so on and so forth....
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Gyrofrog
> It's the predecessor of Trombone produced with far less exacting
> tolerances back before they could really make a bell that flared well.
Don't forget, that "trombone" is French for "paper clip." At least,
according to the box of paper clips I'm looking at...
ASILANT57
>Additionally on My
>Three Sons the sheep dog was in fact an accomplished bones player
>having mastered many forms of odd meter. Sadly the dog met his demise
>when beaten to death at an ATM in Santa Monica many years ago.
No ..... I believe the dog , as an inevitable
result of the JAZZ lifestyle was a HAIROIN
addict . He was beaten up at an ATM
machine , and , subsequently lost his
teeth . No more bone playing . :~(
After convalescing at a kennel for a few
months , he had relocated to Europe .
He died from an accidental(?) from a
window there , by most accounts .
~ DW
Lelia Loban
>Don't forget, that "trombone" is French for "paper clip." At least,
>according to the box of paper clips I'm looking at...
Well, that's better than the name for the Renaissance era trombone, which
was...
sackbutt.
Lelia
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