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Pete Thomas

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Jan 19, 2005, 8:57:42 AM1/19/05
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"The SaxLab is a flexible and easy-to-use soprano, alto, tenor and
baritone saxophone synthesizer that combines samples and synthesizing
techniques to an instrument full of expression capabilities."

http://www.linplug.com/Products/SaxLab/saxlab.htm

Try the free demo

I don't think Kenny need worry just yet

Roll over Bird


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Piotr Michalowski

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Jan 19, 2005, 9:14:13 AM1/19/05
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Pete Thomas wrote:
> "The SaxLab is a flexible and easy-to-use soprano, alto, tenor and
> baritone saxophone synthesizer that combines samples and synthesizing
> techniques to an instrument full of expression capabilities."
>
> http://www.linplug.com/Products/SaxLab/saxlab.htm
>
> Try the free demo
>
> I don't think Kenny need worry just yet
>
> Roll over Bird
>
>
Seems I am safe--I play sopranino!

Glenn

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Jan 19, 2005, 9:17:27 AM1/19/05
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The last demo clip sounds something like a saxophone

Robert Steinberg

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Jan 19, 2005, 9:24:15 AM1/19/05
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Pete Thomas <inv...@reply-via-site.com> wrote:

> "The SaxLab is a flexible and easy-to-use soprano, alto, tenor and
> baritone saxophone synthesizer that combines samples and synthesizing
> techniques to an instrument full of expression capabilities."

SaxLab is prpbably the most sophisticated sax synth for now but it is
sample based. The future (actually present) is in modeling technologies.
Check out the Synful orchestra - www.synful.com. While there are no sax
components, it's only a matter of time.

Just think of that black lacquered Mac with gold keys around your
neck....sexy, huh??
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Robert Steinberg
MidiOpera Co.
http://www.midiopera.com

Thespanish

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Jan 19, 2005, 6:09:37 PM1/19/05
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Have you heard to certain virtual pianos or guitars or drums? We are still
fortunate guys...!!!


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SDA

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Jan 20, 2005, 2:47:11 AM1/20/05
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I think when someone can offer a product that can play horn section
parts that don't come out sounding like an accordian, then you will have
a winner!

Pete Thomas

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Jan 20, 2005, 4:22:01 AM1/20/05
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SDA wrote:
> I think when someone can offer a product that can play horn section
> parts that don't come out sounding like an accordian, then you will have
> a winner!

I've just heard that Gary Garritan is going to bring out a big band set.
Knowing how good GPO is (for the money), I imagine this will be quite good.

Glenn

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Jan 24, 2005, 9:54:59 AM1/24/05
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The Synful site is remarkable, especially the string quartet. As you
work your way down the list of samples it gets progressively less
successful, but where will they be in ten years?

We all need to see where this leads. No one wants to be replaced by a
keyboard player with a synthesizer, but I'd enjoy being able play with
a bassoon or trombone sound--or even violin--on a saxophone-based wind
controller.

And how about the human voice, Robert? When will you be able to have
voices in your midi operas?

Glenn

Pete Thomas

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Jan 24, 2005, 10:20:51 AM1/24/05
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Glenn wrote:
> The Synful site is remarkable, especially the string quartet. As you
> work your way down the list of samples it gets progressively less
> successful, but where will they be in ten years?
>
> We all need to see where this leads. No one wants to be replaced by a
> keyboard player with a synthesizer, but I'd enjoy being able play with
> a bassoon or trombone sound--or even violin--on a saxophone-based wind
> controller.

Synful is a lot more successful at what it tries to do than saxlab IMO.


>
> And how about the human voice, Robert? When will you be able to have
> voices in your midi operas?

I heard soemthing on the radio a couple of months ago that was actually
very good considering what's involved, I can't remeber it's name but try
doing a search for voice synthesis.

Robert Steinberg

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Jan 24, 2005, 12:32:17 PM1/24/05
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Glenn <effective...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> And how about the human voice, Robert? When will you be able to have
> voices in your midi operas?

Check out CANTOR

http://www.virsyn.de/en/E_Home/e_home.html

I'm in the middle of a studio revamp from hardware to software sampler
to take advantage of these new technologies. I haven't demo'd CANTOR but
have communicated with the designer. It can be programmed to sing in
English and German now and perhaps Italian and French in the future.

Once I'm up to speed with new computers and software, I'll add some
sampled vocal sounds for fun. Programming a libretto into singing
software isn't on the current to do list although it is something that I
will inevitably want to have done.

Pete wrote:

> Synful is a lot more successful at what it tries to do than saxlab IMO.

I agree. Synful looks like the most remarkable development in instrument
modeling in a long time. Saxlab is still sample based. I need to work
with these things hands on before I can make a decision. SaxLab might be
fine for many purposes even if not a great thing to play. For play,
modeling is going to rule.

Is there a demo for SaxLab?

RS

Pete Thomas

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Jan 24, 2005, 12:48:06 PM1/24/05
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Tes, see the URL in my original post. It's fully working but every now
and again there's a noise.

Glenn

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Jan 26, 2005, 2:20:48 PM1/26/05
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I'd say Cantor is a step down from Saxlab. It seems particularly bad at
the ends of syllables and words, where it tends to cut off abruptly.
Glenn

Robert Steinberg

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Jan 26, 2005, 5:18:16 PM1/26/05
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Glenn <effective...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'd say Cantor is a step down from Saxlab. It seems particularly bad at
> the ends of syllables and words, where it tends to cut off abruptly.

SaxLab, being sample based, is not a new technology. It will find its
way into a lot of studios. CANTOR is a first generation technology.
Whether it reaches its potential remains to be seen. Right now it seems
more of a novelty.

One thing is sure, sax players will not like SaxLab any more than
singers will like CANTOR or drummers like drum machines.

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