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Anthony

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Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
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Sorry about the reposts. I am having some problems here with Outlook Express.
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I have heard many saxophonists talk about a "old" NY meyer mouthpiece for alto saxophone. Phil woods is supposed to play on one. Can anyone tell me what it is about that particular mouthpiece that is so great? How do these 'old' Meyers compare to the new ones?  These 'old' mouthpieces are hard to find these days. Are there any other manufacturers making something that performs like the 'old' NY meyer? If you have found a mouthpiece that is comparable to a 'old' NY Meyer, what do you think of it? and where can I try one out? I am located in Queens NY.
 
Thanks,
Anthony
 
 

connosax

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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> I have heard many saxophonists talk about a "old" NY meyer mouthpiece =
> for alto saxophone. Phil woods is supposed to play on one. Can anyone =
> tell me what it is about that particular mouthpiece that is so great? =

Everything. Better played than described

> How do these 'old' Meyers compare to the new ones?

New ones are not "Meyers". Simply mouthpieces with "Meyer" stamped on
them. The Meyer Bros. are long gone.

These 'old' =
> mouthpieces are hard to find these days. Are there any other =


> manufacturers making something that performs like the 'old' NY meyer?

No.

If =
> you have found a mouthpiece that is comparable to a 'old' NY Meyer, what =


> do you think of it?


The "New York USA" Meyers are comparable. I actually prefer them and
they are $300 on the used mp market as opposed to $400 and up for the
"New Yorks." Florida rubber Otto Links and rubber Brilhart Personalines
also at $150 or so.


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Gregg W. Jackson

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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Anthony,
If you're a numbers guy, go the Saxophone Journal web site
(http://www.dornpub.com/FrameSJ.html). Check out Ralph Morgan's article
"A Meyer Is A Meyer Is A Meyer". Ralph describes the objective
differences between old and new Meyer mouthpieces down to the thousandth
of an inch.

> Anthony wrote:
>
> Sorry about the reposts. I am having some problems here with Outlook
> Express.
> Here is my original post. I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.
>
>

> I have heard many saxophonists talk about a "old" NY meyer mouthpiece

> for alto saxophone. Phil woods is supposed to play on one. Can anyone

> tell me what it is about that particular mouthpiece that is so great?

> How do these 'old' Meyers compare to the new ones? These 'old'


> mouthpieces are hard to find these days. Are there any other

> manufacturers making something that performs like the 'old' NY meyer?

> If you have found a mouthpiece that is comparable to a 'old' NY Meyer,


> what do you think of it? and where can I try one out? I am located in
> Queens NY.
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> Sax...@netzero.net
>

--
Gregg W. Jackson

DISCLAIMER: The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do
not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation.

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Joe Pairman

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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Whatever new Meyers are, I like them a lot better than any other current mass
production mouthpiece, including the Vandoren v16. I love my alto 5m Richie
Cole, but standard Meyers have also worked well on my alto and my soprano. My
teacher uses a Meyer 8, and he's a great player.

Joe Pairman


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> > I have heard many saxophonists talk about a "old" NY meyer mouthpiece =
> > for alto saxophone. Phil woods is supposed to play on one. Can anyone =
> > tell me what it is about that particular mouthpiece that is so great? =
>
> Everything. Better played than described
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> > How do these 'old' Meyers compare to the new ones?
>

> New ones are not "Meyers". Simply mouthpieces with "Meyer" stamped on
> them. The Meyer Bros. are long gone.
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> These 'old' =

> > mouthpieces are hard to find these days. Are there any other =


> > manufacturers making something that performs like the 'old' NY meyer?
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> No.
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> If =
> > you have found a mouthpiece that is comparable to a 'old' NY Meyer, what =


> > do you think of it?
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Mitch

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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When I started out on alto, I went to Bob Ackerman's place and blew a
bunch of mpc. in the 125.00 to 175.00 range. I found one that suited my
needs. Then he handed me an old NY Meyer 7M. The difference between this
mpc and the newer Meyers, links, Brilhart's, etc., was amazing, and I
didn't think so because of the name on the side, I knew nothing about
mpcs. then. If I knew I was going to stay on alto, I would gladly have
paid the 350.00 he wanted for it. Smooth, and could give a nice edge
when pushed. Like butta.

Now that I play tenor, I use an "old" NY Meyer 7M. It is a great peice
for quiet, solo ballads. For most of the time, I've been playing a
Morgan in band. A bit more open, and louder.

Mitch

> Anthony wrote:
>
> Sorry about the reposts. I am having some problems here with Outlook
> Express.
> Here is my original post. I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.
>
>

> I have heard many saxophonists talk about a "old" NY meyer mouthpiece

> for alto saxophone. Phil woods is supposed to play on one. Can anyone

> tell me what it is about that particular mouthpiece that is so great?

> How do these 'old' Meyers compare to the new ones? These 'old'


> mouthpieces are hard to find these days. Are there any other

> manufacturers making something that performs like the 'old' NY meyer?

John Zangrando

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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I play an old Meyer Bros NY  on alto   They are hand finished and better produced(Better rubber too) I have two great back up al;to pieces. One is  new by Phil Barone and one is a late 60's  "Babbitt " Meyer   6      Expertely refinished by Jon Van Wie a few years ago     These mouthpieces play great      You can occasionally find a good 70's Meyer or even new one but you have to play about a hundred. You are better to get one from Phil or have one fixed by Jon . The Van Doren V-16 is better than the current Meyer but not up to the quality of these gentlemen. JZ   Anthony wrote:
Sorry about the reposts. I am having some problems here with Outlook Express.Here is my original post. I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.  I have heard many saxophonists talk about a "old" NY meyer mouthpiece for alto saxophone. Phil woods is supposed to play on one. Can anyone tell me what it is about that particular mouthpiece that is so great? How do these 'old' Meyers compare to the new ones?  These 'old' mouthpieces are hard to find these days. Are there any other manufacturers making something that performs like the 'old' NY meyer? If you have found a mouthpiece that is comparable to a 'old' NY Meyer, what do you think of it? and where can I try one out? I am located in Queens NY. Thanks,Anthony Sax...@netzero.net

Jon Van Wie

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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Mitch wrote in message <385A77F4...@mitchellandrus.com>...

>When I started out on alto, I went to Bob Ackerman's place and blew


I would once again, like to clear up some misconceptions here. Every piece
that BobAckerman sold over the past six years has been hand refaced by me.
Bob was a stickler for making sure that no piece could be sold without first
removing the wear. He may have said it was original and for the most part
that was true. When setting up an old Meyer we showed a great deal of
reverence for the pieces original integrety. We knew what the facings should
be and I put that facing on that piece. And in doing so, restored the piece
to it's original condition.
The first thing to go on any mouthpiece is the back measurement. Then
the rails on the inside of the piece start to lay down. Then you start to
notice the tip rail gets fatter from the constant pounding of the reed. Lots
of players don't care and they continue to use the piece. It's something
that they get use to over a period of time. The changes occure slowly and
the player may not notice the difference's that are happening. I know some
name players that have played the same piece for thirty years.
A mouthpiece is a wear out item if you ask me. Just like the tires on
your car. My friend Doug Lawrence told my other pal Jack Stuckey when he saw
his piece, you should send your piece to Jon Van Wie to have it refaced.
Jack's tip rail had worn a grove, in the exact shape of his reed. He was
having trouble finding reeds that worked. So he sent me the piece and I
refaced it. Well needless to say, Jack was elated with the results.
It's a very high art form that even seasoned players don't know what
it's all about. If I hadn't been shown how to do it by a very serious Mpc.
refacer, I wouldn't know anything about it either.
If you have any questions about mouthpiece refacing feel free to call me
and I will do my best to help explain everything I know about this matter.
jbva...@cyber-quest.com (607)565-4584 Jon


John Kee

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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I don't often sing praises, but as I posted earlier, Jon is a master craftsman.
This discussion helps confirm it in my mind and experience. My first experience
was Jon modifying a new alto meyer to the specifics of the old meyer bros
meyer. And now Jon has modified a tenor supertone master metal Link (6*) to the
specifications of the old NY Link. The mouthpiece is a dream. Thanks Jon

John Kee

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