Richard Strauss and the saxophone

[Josh]

I've heard that Richard Strauss wrote for saxophone. What piece(s)
included saxophone from him? Also, did Berlioz ever write anything for
saxophone? If so, what?

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[MyCatTom]

>I've heard that Richard Strauss wrote for saxophone. What piece(s)
>included saxophone from him? Also, did Berlioz ever write anything for
>saxophone? If so, what?
>

"Sinfonia Domestica" by R. Strauss is written for symphony orchestra including
soprano, alto, bari, and bass sax.
myca...@aol.com (Leigh Pilzer)

[CalSax]

It is amazing that Strauss wrote for sax at all considering the "political
incorrectness" of the instrument and his position as chairman of the "Reich
Cultural Commission".
Steve

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[ham...@usc.edu]

"Sinfonia Domestica", according to W. Horwood is scored for sop. and bass in C
and alto and bari in F. In addition to this the parts are basically redundant
because they are doubled by other instruments because Strauss was uncertain
whether quality players would be available and he wanted the piece played
regardless.

The Londeix book lists Berlioz's writing the following:

Chante Sacre for 2 tpts, bugle, 2 cls. and bass
3 Leider for alto and piano

I've never heard either of these or of anyone playing them, so I wonder if
they're turkeys.

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myca...@aol.com (MyCatTom) wrote:
> >I've heard that Richard Strauss wrote for saxophone. What piece(s)
> >included saxophone from him? Also, did Berlioz ever write anything for
> >saxophone? If so, what?
> >
>
> "Sinfonia Domestica" by R. Strauss is written for symphony orchestra including
> soprano, alto, bari, and bass sax.
> myca...@aol.com (Leigh Pilzer)
>

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[Bernard Savoie]

ham...@usc.edu wrote:

> The Londeix book lists Berlioz's writing the following:
>
> Chante Sacre for 2 tpts, bugle, 2 cls. and bass
> 3 Leider for alto and piano
>
> I've never heard either of these or of anyone playing them, so I wonder if
> they're turkeys.
>

The Chant Sacre is actually the first piece ever written which uses the
saxophone. It was used to present and demonstrate Sax's instruments (not
only the saxophone, but all six instruments were either new or improved
versions of instruments which Sax had built) to the general public
(Paris, February 3, 1844). The work in its original form has been lost,
but Londeix has reconstructed a version for saxophone ensemble.
As for the Leider, from what I understand, they are excerpts from
Berlioz's "Damnation de Faust". These are probably transcriptions.

Berlioz was a great admirer of Sax's work, it is just bad timing that
the saxophone would be invented after his most important works had been
written. The saxophones history may well have been quite different if
this genius of orchestration had included it in such influencial works
such as his "Symphonie fantastique" (1830).

Bernard Savoie
Opus 102 Music Publisher

[ham...@usc.edu]

Thanks for the info. Very interesting. Londeix lists the 3 Lieder, yes, from
Faust, twice: once with a credit to a transcriber and once without. So either
the book is in error (likely considering the amount of info in it) or Berlioz
did his own transcription. I agree, the history of the saxophone would be
quite different if the major composers during Sax's life weren't so afraid to
write for it, and the musicians so dead set against playing Sax's instruments.

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[Ericgen]

Yes, Strauss used a saxophone quartet in his symphonic tone poem, "Symphonia
Domestica".