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Low A For Tenor Sax ????

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cwest...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2009, 1:32:01 PM3/3/09
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my kid just got her audition music for next years band placement. The
song has a low A. Never knew you could get that note.

And if you can, what is the fingering?

thx - Craig

grmpy...@aol.com

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Mar 3, 2009, 2:17:13 PM3/3/09
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On Mar 3, 1:32�pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cwestbro...@gmail.com>
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Assuming it's not an error (or the music given is in the concert
pitch, not Bb), the only way to get it absent a bell extension is to
play a low Bb with a very loose lip while partially covering the bell
with one of your legs.

Stephen Howard

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Mar 3, 2009, 4:40:08 PM3/3/09
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0800 (PST), grmpy...@aol.com wrote:

>On Mar 3, 1:32?pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cwestbro...@gmail.com>


>wrote:
>> my kid just got her audition music for next years band placement. The

>> song has a low A. ?Never knew you could get that note.


>>
>> And if you can, what is the fingering?
>>
>> thx - Craig
>
>Assuming it's not an error (or the music given is in the concert
>pitch, not Bb), the only way to get it absent a bell extension is to
>play a low Bb with a very loose lip while partially covering the bell
>with one of your legs.

Sounds like it's a concert pitch part - or a part intended for a
baritone with a low A.
The leg trick works a treat, but can be a bit tricky depending on how
big you are.
Alternatively, see here...

http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk/HandyHints/Bari_extension.htm

Regards,

--
Stephen Howard
Woodwind repairs & period restorations
http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk

TM

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Mar 3, 2009, 8:17:58 PM3/3/09
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"Stephen Howard" <sees...@email.uk> wrote in message
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I think it's more of an "arranger" problem; I've seen that low A thing on
tenor charts a lot. But what takes the cake is a low G on a bari part I
sightread last week.


JerseySax

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Mar 4, 2009, 6:32:53 PM3/4/09
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On Mar 3, 8:17 pm, "TM" <Tee_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Stephen Howard" <seesig...@email.uk> wrote in message

Selmer made a Mark-VI alto with a low A. Why, I don't know. But I know
a guy who has one and it's really odd looking because of that extended
bell. I don't know if they did that for tenors. I always knew about
the bari. I first saw a
low-A bari back around 1955. I went to see the Ray Anthony band, and
his brother Leroy was featured on it on the song 'Night Train'
Actually, I think that note was the only thing he played on the chart.
too many years ago to know for sure.

I have to agree with Stephen that it's probably an "arranger" problem.
Bad arrangers will manifest problems like that. the strangest one I
saw was when I was playing in a backup band for a Doo-Wop show
featuring several groups from the 50's. I was playing tenor and one of
the charts was in 7 flats. technically, that would mean that the
concert key was 9 flats. And we know there is no 9 flat key. It was
actually A major. don't know why the arranger just didn't score the
tenor part in B major. But when they don't know, they don't know!

Stephen Howard

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Mar 4, 2009, 6:44:09 PM3/4/09
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:32:53 -0800 (PST), JerseySax
<jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

>Selmer made a Mark-VI alto with a low A. Why, I don't know. But I know
>a guy who has one and it's really odd looking because of that extended
>bell. I don't know if they did that for tenors. I always knew about
>the bari. I first saw a
>low-A bari back around 1955. I went to see the Ray Anthony band, and
>his brother Leroy was featured on it on the song 'Night Train'
>Actually, I think that note was the only thing he played on the chart.
>too many years ago to know for sure.

Seen a few low A altos but never a tenor. I've never been that
impressed with them either - compared to a standard Bb Selmer.


>
>I have to agree with Stephen that it's probably an "arranger" problem.
>Bad arrangers will manifest problems like that. the strangest one I
>saw was when I was playing in a backup band for a Doo-Wop show
>featuring several groups from the 50's. I was playing tenor and one of
>the charts was in 7 flats. technically, that would mean that the
>concert key was 9 flats. And we know there is no 9 flat key. It was
>actually A major. don't know why the arranger just didn't score the
>tenor part in B major. But when they don't know, they don't know!

I see a lot of charts that have been out through the Sibelius
transposing mill. It often goes that a chart is written out in one key
and then transposed into another for some reason - and when the
transposition button is pressed to take the chart from concert into
horn pitch ( Bb or Eb, usually ) it often makes a hash ( excuse pun )
of the accidentals - and you end up with a chart in, say, G that
contains lots of sharpened Bs and Es.

Afoklala

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Mar 5, 2009, 3:40:26 AM3/5/09
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Op Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:32:53 -0800 (PST) schreef JerseySax:

> I have to agree with Stephen that it's probably an "arranger" problem.
> Bad arrangers will manifest problems like that. the strangest one I
> saw was when I was playing in a backup band for a Doo-Wop show
> featuring several groups from the 50's. I was playing tenor and one of
> the charts was in 7 flats. technically, that would mean that the
> concert key was 9 flats. And we know there is no 9 flat key. It was
> actually A major. don't know why the arranger just didn't score the
> tenor part in B major. But when they don't know, they don't know!

My worst arranger thing was a bassclarinet part written in tenor clef. Go
figure.
--
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al

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Mar 11, 2009, 12:09:04 PM3/11/09
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sure it's not a low #A?
might be a nasty trick on reading abilities...
al

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