Bari saxes and airplanes
dlkf djs
went overseas, it was damaged. Anybody have any recommendations on packing
techniques or a good travel case?Some of the cases I see on WWBB include
Walt Johnson and BAM. Thanks.
Peter Lutek
David Mott and I both have the BAM case, and recommend it very highly.
David has sent his on commercial flights as checked baggage, with no damage.
I know 'cellists who trust their BAM cases.... if the company can
satisfy 'cellists, they can certainly manage to protect a bari.
-p
Geoff Roach
case, tell them to put the latches on it where you can put a padlock through
the latch to keep the "saxophone fans" who work in baggage handling out of
the case.
Geoff
"dlkf djs" <d...@dscv.dnv> wrote in message
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Bob R. Kenyon
"Geoff Roach" <geoff...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> I check my bari in a Walt Johnson case. Never had problems. If you get a WJ
> case, tell them to put the latches on it where you can put a padlock through
> the latch to keep the "saxophone fans" who work in baggage handling out of
> the case.
I believe you have to leave baggage unlocked for security reasons today,
so padlocking it might be a bad idea.
--
Bob R. Kenyon
Beautiful Downtown San Jose, CA
<http://www.bobrk.com/>
Glenn Wilson
never check their bari in a Walt Johnson case. I think someone on this NG
told a horror story about their case and sax getting trashed. I could be
wrong.
The reason I'm curious is that I have a Walt Johnson for my bari and I told
them I wanted the heaviest reinforced model, so I'm hoping that's what I've
got. I've never had the nerve to check it, but if you've successfully done
it maybe I need to reconsider.
Do you check it at the counter or at the gate? How many times have you
flown it?
Thanks for any help and info you can provide.
Glenn
"Geoff Roach" <geoff...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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Ted Thompson
travel a lot with horns and have begged and pleaded for years to bring my
bari on to put in the overhead . I managed to do it most of the time but I
don`t even try now. I too have a Walt Johnson case but I don`t check it
because , like Glenn Wilson, I have heard horror stories about even those
fine case being trashed , or at least the horns inside damaged. I had a
Calzone shipping case made that holds a gig bag. The case is padded and
bumpered inside and the horn fits firmly inside ,IN THE GIG BAG, which is
also padded pretty well. So far so good. I meet the band bus , store the
Calzone underneath, put the gig bag and horn at my seat on the bus and it`s
worked fine. Of course I`m very careful taking the horn in to the gig. Have
had no problems yet. By the way, the Calzone has a telescoping pull handle
on one end and wheels on the other.
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Fritz
1. Had my bari in a Berkely case for years, flying on average of ten times
annually, always gate checked and never had a problem. In hindsight, I was
extremely lucky.
2. Had the bari in the original plywood hard case for several flights,
damaged twice, both minor events and as I am a repairtech, was able to make
it work until I could get to a shop. (This last occasion was really weird
though, flew into New Orleans during Mardi Gras and the low Eb guard was
pushed into the body. In addition to the mounts impacting the body, the
tonehole was bent pretty bad from the body damage. I could not get in touch
with any techs down there. I called every store in the book, I called the
"name" techs and no answers, called all the referrals I was given and NO ONE
ANSWERED THEIR PHONE!! Must have been out on Bourbon Street...)
3. Had the bari in a Walt Johnson "flight case" on a trip from Seattle to
San Francisco to Amsterdam, the Netherlands and ultimately to Venice, Italy.
They required me to check the horn at the counter. This was prior to 9/11
by a couple of years so the extreme security inspections were not in place
and I duct taped the case closed. When I got off the plane in Venice and
saw the case come in through baggage, my jaw hit the floor, the case was
bent and crushed. The marks on the aluminum framing suggested that the horn
had been dropped onto concrete and the amount of the bends in the framing
suggested from a substantial height. The horn's top bow (where the palm F
tonehole is) was crushed like an accordion, the body tube was bent, the body
to bell brace impacted into the tube, the bell was munched... well, you get
the idea. In the end the airline, denied responsibility and only provided
$400.00 to cover damages. I went to a shop in a nearby town as Venice does
not have a shop that can perform major body work only to find that this shop
didn't either. The airline refused to replace the horn or pay for me to get
to a real shop who could repair it.
I eventually shipped the horn to Dan Oberloh in Seattle ($385.00 via DHL
International), he straightened out the horn for about $1500.00 and shipped
it express back to me (see above DHL info). The case was trash. Dan did a
wonderful fixing the horn. I am still pissed at the airline.
4. Had the bari in a gig bag, on my way home from a gig, driving down a
dark curving canyon road, car coming up the hill lost control and knocked my
car into a ravine. Bell on sax crushed, car totaled. Other driver's
insurance paid for repairs.
What did I learn?
A. I now use an anvil case for all flights and travel, even in car. I
trust no one with my horn. Thank you Anvil Cases.
B. My horn is inusred against loss and damage.
I cannot stress enough, if you fly much with your bari, get an anvil style
case. I like the idea that Ted Thomspon wrote about in the above post, gig
bag inside a case, makes it more convenient. For now my next investment is
a set of wheels for my case as my right arm is now fifteen inches longer
than my left, must be from having to park so far away from the gig...
Fritz
Geoff Roach
bari about a dozen times in the past couple of years. The only incident was
someone trying to get into the case. That's why I added the additional
locks. Maybe I need to get an Anvil case just to be sure.
Who sells Anvil cases for bari - low A and/or low Bb?
Geoff
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Ted Thompson
job. He is in Lutz, Florida , a suburb of Tampa. The number is
1-800-636-1690. Tell him Ted Thompson told you.
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Fritz
Fritz
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Glenn Wilson
heavy. I've had mine for 30 years so it doesn't have a handle and wheels
like Ted's. That would be a big help. It's great protection and I've used
it when someone else is doing the schlepping, on a tour or such, but its not
worth it for a one-nighter, etc. The last time I used it, I was charged
extra for heavy baggage. I'd love to find a case that fits the horn that
could be checked. If it fit really well it could go in the overheard, but
if one were stopped at the gate, could also be hand-checked.
Glenn --
www.jazzmaniac.com
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Ted Thompson
I`m going out July 1 on Northwest and the lady in reservations said I would
only be charged for an extra bag above the two that are allowed. I `ve never
flown Northwest with the horn. The Walt Johnsons that I have WILL go in the
overhead in all planes that I`ve flown on except commuters, but they`re the
best kind because you can hand carry it to the plane and the person will put
it in the baggage compartment and hand it to you when you land. The problem
is, the Walt`s take up the entire overhead compartment, which they don`t
like, AND the people at the podium will sometimes just NOT let you take it
on period. I`ve had a Captain come out and say "you`re not taking THAT on
this plane." I`ve had a flight attendant stand in front of the aircraft door
and say the same thing. One did let me prove that it would go in the
overhead and then let me bring it on. It`s just too iffy. I HAVE to get the
damn horn where I`m going and this is the only way I know to do it. Do it or
stay home I guess. Nobody else but bari players really have this problem .
Alto players, trumpet players, tenor players don`t. Even trombone players
seem to get horns on . . The letter from the Union sounds nice but try to
explain it to somebody at a podium. *news:6nmIa.44$vB...@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
Jane & David
>
The Walt Johnsons that I have WILL go in the overhead in all planes
that I`ve flown on except commuters, but they`re the best kind because
you can hand carry it to the plane and the person will put it in the
baggage compartment and hand it to you when you land.
That is true, but what you might not see is how they put your case into
the baggage compartment. Usually they treat them OK but a couple of
times I've watched them take the last case and just toss it up and over
the baggage net to land on the other luggage. If you can talk to the
person who actually loads your case, you should be OK, but it's no sure
thing.
David