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Nick Chapman

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Aug 29, 2003, 3:10:13 PM8/29/03
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Can anyone give advice on the Stagg range of saxophones. My son is
interested in a student sax as a starter instrument (but he plays clarinet
to Grade 3) and has been offered a Stagg model at £290 ex VAT new.


Stephen Howard

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Aug 29, 2003, 5:05:30 PM8/29/03
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Never heard of it, and to be perfectly frank it's unlikely to be much
cop at that price.

Think about it, that's the retail on it.... what's the seller's cut,
and what did the seller buy it for... and just how much did it cost to
manufacture?

Chances are it'll make an unusual lampshade!

Best bet is to stick to established and well-regarded makes, perhaps
considering the secondhand market.
For budget horns, look to the Jupiter, Arbiter and Trevor James horns.
A bit pricier and you're into the Yamaha horns.

For £350 you should be able to pick up a very clean Yamaha YAS23 or
25, which will be most excellent.

Just as with any other purchase - you get what you pay for.

There are some reviews of budget horns on my site - you might find
something of use there.

Regards,

--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

simgab

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Aug 29, 2003, 9:16:42 PM8/29/03
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As a general rule, don't buy anything that's named after an animal... Taiwan
produces all sorts of bizarre rip offs including Swallows, Doves... never
ending list.
Simon

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SaxyBird

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Aug 30, 2003, 5:53:07 AM8/30/03
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Stagg is a generic commercial name for low cost musical instruments and
electronics of all types imported in Europe and North America.
Guitars, for example, are made in Taďwan ( for their own benefits) in the same
factory as Epiphone and Squier and are of the same quality (same design and
components at half a price!)
Didn't know till now of saxophones but I think they could be made in the same
conditions of Buffet and Keilwerth low end saxes.
Never decide something is bad only because "happy few" people claim it! Try it
orhave it tried by a real saxophonist!
Klo (remove NOSPAM from adress)
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Mario

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Aug 30, 2003, 5:55:11 PM8/30/03
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Nick I would be very carefull on buying a Staaaaaggggg horn,better get a new
student Yamaha,or a used one! Better pay a little now then be sorry and
stock with a unknown brand!!Just an opinion,,,Mario
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simgab

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Aug 31, 2003, 6:53:33 AM8/31/03
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Klo - you've gotta be kidding ! "Happy few ?" That's cos in the world of
saxes, a heap of shit models come outta Taiwan. My question to you : would
a 'real saxophonist' bother trying a Stagg sax ?!
Yamaha, Selmer, Keilwerth, Boosey & Hawkes, Buffet, Yanagisawa... these
names have been around for ages. Why go cheap and unknown ??
I don't think you can compare with the guitar market... 6 strings and a bit
of wood !
Come on, man !
Simon


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Peter Willis

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Aug 31, 2003, 12:18:04 PM8/31/03
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>Yamaha, Selmer, Keilwerth, Boosey & Hawkes, Buffet, Yanagisawa... these
>names have been around for ages. Why go cheap and unknown ??

I think part of his point was that the Keilwerth and Buffet student models (as
well as some Vitos, Selmer USAs, Beuschers) are made in Taiwan/China/somewhere
in that area and some of the inexpensive horns could very well be the same
saxes as these with different engraving. However, many of the cheap horns are
just that - cheap - and as he said "try it or have it tried by a real
saxophonist."

Peter
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simgab

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Sep 1, 2003, 3:38:30 AM9/1/03
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This probably is true Pete, but if Keilwerth etc are going to build in
Taiwan, surely they'll use a manufacturer / procedure there that they're
happy to have their name attached to.
'Stagg' ?? Who knows ...
Simon

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SaxyBird

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Sep 1, 2003, 3:51:45 AM9/1/03
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I play saxes from 1956 till now.
Actually I play on Yanagisawa B901 T901 and SC901 saxes and Conn "Chu" alto as
well as a "New King" Keilwerth tenor (backup horn).
Some people considerme as an expert for saxes for pricing and evaluation.
If I agree, but for Selmer, with the list of brand one gave on this thread
(after Mk VI Selmer are not so fine and twice overpriced), I think the same
"happy fews" would have better to have a look around and I persist saying:
try seriously ANY BRAND before any judgement.
Ialso play as straight soprano on a taïwanese "Cleveland" srictly copied on MK
VI (the real ones, notre the 6.5 models after #210.000): it's a fine horn, for
tuning, tone, mechanics, much better than the Selmer Serie II I resold after
few monthes as too heavy with no "soul"

You would hear what Jason du Mars says NOW about new chineese saxes: his
opinion is changed.

Why do you want to sell a Mercedesto a guy alone, with no money and who only
needs to run some miles? "Cheap" cars or used (OK for vintage Horns... with
precautions too!) are a good response for beginners or not "goldened" people!

Keep blowing (and swinging if you can ;°)))

simgab

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Sep 1, 2003, 3:11:06 PM9/1/03
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Take a look at what you list as your main horns : Yana, Keilwerth and a
vintage Conn.
Bottom line : you get what you pay for.
My point : why would a guy with no money want a sax with an unknown name
(tough resell) especially as a beginner ? Like a car ? If that was the
case, we'd all be playing Bostons or Bundys cos they'd get us there in the
end !?
'Not goldened' Simon


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