Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Yamaha G1 neck situation

384 views
Skip to first unread message

T&L Martin

unread,
Aug 15, 2003, 9:36:58 AM8/15/03
to
Has anyone heard if the Yamaha G1 neck issue been resolved? Are the new
horns presently shipping with the revised neck? If they are available, has
anyone tried the retrofit? Heard much about the problem but lost track of
any resolution.

Thanks-T

Mark Bushaw

unread,
Aug 15, 2003, 10:11:50 PM8/15/03
to
New necks for alto and tenor, available for some time.
No more problems.
If you think you have a faulty neck, Yamaha will ship you a new one, and you
return whichever neck you don't like.
I don't know of any visual aids to determine if a neck is an old or revised
model.

Mark Bushaw

"T&L Martin" <vis...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BB625AD5.6103%vis...@comcast.net...

MrWitworth

unread,
Aug 17, 2003, 12:22:17 AM8/17/03
to
What if you don't like either neck, as in they both make the exhibit the same
problem?

Mark Bushaw

unread,
Aug 17, 2003, 9:56:14 AM8/17/03
to
I would assume that the problem would then lie elsewhere. Perhaps in the
mouthpiece or player.
Mark Bushaw
"MrWitworth" <mrwit...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030817002217...@mb-m26.aol.com...

MrWitworth

unread,
Aug 17, 2003, 11:40:41 PM8/17/03
to
Mark, In other words, you're fully confident that the Yamaha replacement necks
have indeed corrected the problem, even though they haven't felt it necessary
to apply any identifying markings on the new neck. The reason for my questions
is, what prevents Yamaha from just sending a persons somebody elses' returned
neck since they all look the same. My opinion on this is that Yamaha should
have provided some identifying marking or designation change to make it clear
that the replacement neck is indeed the newly redesigned one.

RC

Mark Bushaw

unread,
Aug 29, 2003, 10:48:17 AM8/29/03
to
As I understand it, the octave vents are in different locations, so visually
comparing two necks side-by-side one could see the difference, but with a
single neck, it is hard to compare measurements.
The fact that Yamaha has taken the steps it has, even accommodating the gray
market horns, makes me believe they are acting most honorably.

Mark Bushaw
"MrWitworth" <mrwit...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030817234041...@mb-m29.aol.com...

MrWitworth

unread,
Aug 30, 2003, 2:13:10 PM8/30/03
to
Mark, thatnks for the reply. Inspires confidence. Would you happen to know the
comparitive difference in the placement of the octave vent tube is the two
versions of these G1 necks?

Thanks.

Mark Bushaw

unread,
Aug 30, 2003, 9:52:49 PM8/30/03
to
Nope, sorry.

Mark Bushaw

"MrWitworth" <mrwit...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030830141310...@mb-m07.aol.com...

Saxophan

unread,
Sep 7, 2003, 12:07:57 AM9/7/03
to
This was some time ago, but I belive it was in this thread:
A friend of mine owns a 62 II alto. After reading the discussion about the
plastic pearls on the horns, I was curious. His horn appeared to have real
mother of pearl when compared side-to-side with a custom Z. Now, has Yamaha
just done a better job of making plastic look like real pearl or could his
horn have real mothear of pearl? P.S.- The serial number was 10k-ish


"Mark Bushaw" <MBu...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:RIJ3b.155$aq1.18...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...

Mark Bushaw

unread,
Sep 6, 2003, 10:37:26 PM9/6/03
to
The 62 always had real pearls. The mid and student level horns (52, 32, 23,
etc) have plastic.
Mark Bushaw

"Saxophan" <saxophan@wideopenwest {dot} com> wrote in message
news:YN2dnVY-aI1...@wideopenwest.com...

MrWitworth

unread,
Sep 8, 2003, 11:32:44 PM9/8/03
to
Yamaha has pushed the prices of their Model 62 line downward by a very large
margin. My local dealer now sells new Model 62 Mk 2 altos for about what he
gave me in trade on a 2 Yr old Model 62 a year ago when I was buying a new
Buffet R-13 clarinet. I gave them the alto and $200 for the new R-13. They were
asking $2,600 for a new 62 alto. I thought that perhaps Yamaha had made the 82z
the substitute for the 62 and the 62 Mk2 was the replacement for the 52. The
475 series fits in there somewhere, but who knows.

As for the key pearls, plastic looks and feels totally different from real
mother of pearl. I could be wrong, but the new Model 62 Mark 2 that I held in
my hands had plastic buttons although they were more convincing looking than
the ones I pried out of my YTS-23 tenor (and replaced with real ones at $5.00
each). Who cares, really. If it doesn't bother the player, then what ever the
material is, is fine. For my body chemistry, plastic buttons get slippery
after about 15 min. of playing. Real MoP never gets slippery because the
material is absorptive and not as smooth to the touch.
Another way to distinguish the difference is to tap the pearl with your front
tooth. The plastic is softer and the MoP feels like glass.

RC

Mark Bushaw

unread,
Sep 9, 2003, 11:59:49 AM9/9/03
to
According to the Yamaha (USA) website, the 62II still uses mother of pearl.
I didn't check for other countries.

Mark Bushaw
"MrWitworth" <mrwit...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030908233244...@mb-m05.aol.com...

MrWitworth

unread,
Sep 9, 2003, 10:45:35 PM9/9/03
to
OK, then MoP it is then. It's better that they do use the good stuff. Making
the change over from plastic to MoP is cheap and easy. The real pearls are $5
each. I only change the 6 main ones.

RC

Douglas Findley

unread,
Sep 9, 2003, 11:53:45 PM9/9/03
to
I've been playing a Yamaha YTS-61 I purchased new back around 1977. It has
lots of wear (especially the finish). I still perform with it and play it
regularly.

I really love my horn and wonder what my options might be to enhance it.

The alternative neck is something I hadn't thought about.

I've thought about refinishing it, but I don't really care (much) that it
looks old and tarnished. I'm more interested if I could tighten up the
action a bit.

I'm curious about refinishing but would be concerned how it would change the
sound. If the sound changed, I'd want it to become warmer if anything. The
tone is pretty dang awesome as it is so I'm not looking to specifically
change it. I use a hard rubber Claude Lakey 8*3 mouthpiece and about 3.5
Vand. Jazz or Alexander Superial 3 reeds.

It's about time for me to tune it up again and would appreciate any
suggestions about more intensive options. I looked on the web for the necks
but didn't see them. I'd appreciate any links or suggestions.

Thanks much,
Douglas Findley


"MrWitworth" <mrwit...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030909224535...@mb-m15.aol.com...

Brian

unread,
Sep 10, 2003, 11:56:59 AM9/10/03
to
I use a Selmer Ref54 kneck, fits straight in, and makes it bark, great
sounds, warmer, more depth.
Brian
"Douglas Findley" <do...@assinine.org> wrote in message
news:Y4x7b.1256$v22.9...@feed2.centurytel.net...


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003


MrWitworth

unread,
Sep 13, 2003, 12:12:26 AM9/13/03
to
Indeed the Reference Selmer necks seem to help the Yamahas considerably. I'm
not going out to gigs with a YTS-23 with a Ref 36 neck. (These are the kinds of
gig where bad things happen so the good horn stays home).

RC

MrWitworth

unread,
Sep 14, 2003, 8:02:59 PM9/14/03
to
I meant that to read "now going to gigs with..."
0 new messages