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LIBERATOR

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May 16, 2007, 1:16:06 AM5/16/07
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It's a wonderful experience to read the same thing in different books
that are not collaborating.

"The SS: Hitlers Instrument of Terror" and Kurt Meyer and Michael
Wittman who all have books written about them by different authors,
reported the exact same data, about prisoners being taken by the
Waffen SS.

The Waffen SS - as instructed by Der Fuhrer, were told never to hurt a
man that surrenders. When enemy soldiers surrender, it is even un-
necessary to disarm them, for they have surrendered knowing they are
outnumbered and outgunned, thus if they fire their weapon against a
superior numerical force, they will die without question. Therefore,
Adolf Hitler/Thomas Jefferson instructed his Waffen SS to just point
the way for the prisoners to go, and don't even disarm them. And this
was repeated, in numerous books I have skimmed through. I saw the
exact same thing in numerous books that were not collaborating, and
then I read about Lt. John Frost who defends the SS and their honor.

What was interesting is that the Jews used incidents where Allied
soldiers were not disarmed and just pointed which way to go as panzers
rolled on, was that the allied soldiers on their own through down
their guns, and as soon as the tanks were out of sight, the allied
soldiers picked up their guns again and thought they could gain a
medal and survive by attacking further proceeding Waffen SS soldiers,
of which they did. These men failed and were executed, they flew a
white flag, but then when it was convenient to betray that, they did
and then the claims of men who were surrendering were gunned down in
cold blood by the Waffen SS - this was not true, yet this lie stands
today against the Waffen SS.

Hitler instructed his SS to be totally loose and humane to enemy
soldiers who surrendered, and loose they were they didnt even disarm
them. Once you surrender to a Waffen SS man it's your duty and honor
to refrain from further combat, we trust you us Germans..

Spielberg owes us all!!

88!

Joe Bruno

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May 16, 2007, 2:48:10 AM5/16/07
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Really? Why, pray tell, did so many of them run into hiding after
WWII?

Eichmann and Mengele fled to South America. Hoess was captured hiding
in a farmhouse. Looks like pretty guilty behavior to me.


Benjamin Cramer

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May 16, 2007, 3:16:50 AM5/16/07
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"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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PPPRRRRRRROOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!

And none of your mcFey shite, either, b'luto.

Eugene Holman

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May 16, 2007, 5:24:12 AM5/16/07
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In article <K_mdnaVHiKl5Mtfb...@giganews.com>, "Benjamin
Cramer" <yid...@home.net> wrote:

> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> news:1179298089.9...@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

<deletions>


>
> PPPRRRRRRROOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!
>
> And none of your mcFey shite, either, b'luto.

Have a look at what the CIA has to say about the following gentlemen at
http://www.archives.gov/iwg/declassified-records/rg-263-cia-records/rg-263-report.html?template=print
.

Yes or no?

Was Rudolf Hoess, an SS officer and former commandant of Auschwitz,
discovered and arrested by British Military Police after being on the lam
and living under a false identity for more than a year?
[for details, see http://www.bad-bad.de/gesch/hoess.htm;
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1946Hoess.html]


Was Adolf Eichmann, an SS officer who was the secretary for the Wannsee
Conference and the head of RSHA Referat IV B4, the RSHA department that
dealt with Jewish affairs and evacuation, discovered and abducted by
Israeli agents in Argentina after being on the lam and living under a
false identity for more than fifteen years?
[for details, see http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB150/index.htm,
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/06/06/nazi.crimes/]


Was Franz Stangl, an SS officer who worked in the T-4 euthanasia program
and later served as commandant of the Sobibór and Treblinka exterminbation
camps tracked down and arrested by Simon Wiesenthal's operatives in Brazil
in 1967?
[for details, see http://www.auschwitz.dk/sobibor/franzstangl.htm]


Was Gustav Wagner, an SS officer who served as the deputy Sobibór
commander, arrested in 1978 in Brazil after being on the lam for more than
thirty years?
[for details, see http://www.auschwitz.dk/sobibor/Trials.htm]


Was Josef Mengele, an SS officer notorious for the pseudo-medical
experiments that he conducted at Auschwitz-Birkenau, identified in Brazil,
where he had been living on the lam for more than thirty years, after he
accidentally drowned?
[for details, see http://www.posner.com/articles/mengele.htm,
http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/100/mengle.htm]

Regards,
Eugene Holman

Joe Bruno

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May 16, 2007, 5:31:47 AM5/16/07
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On May 16, 12:16 am, "Benjamin Cramer" <yidz...@home.net> wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" <b...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> And none of your mcFey shite, either, b'luto.- Hide quoted text -

What the fuck are you babbling about, Psycho?
You're so full of shit, your skin must be rapidly turning dark brown.


You never heard of Adolf Eichmann or Josef Mengele?
That's a lie, cause I posted plenty on them.


Kurt Knoll

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May 16, 2007, 6:26:22 AM5/16/07
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Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look guilty. I
do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get yourself a
good education before you open your mouth.

Kurt Knoll.


Kurt Knoll.

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Kurt Knoll

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May 16, 2007, 6:29:08 AM5/16/07
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You reality Eugene is all the Germans were war criminals and Jews have
always been the master liars.

Kurt Knoll.

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Benjamin Cramer

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May 16, 2007, 6:54:41 AM5/16/07
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"Eugene Holman" <hol...@mappi.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
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> In article <K_mdnaVHiKl5Mtfb...@giganews.com>, "Benjamin
> Cramer" <yid...@home.net> wrote:
>
>> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>> news:1179298089.9...@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> <deletions>
>>
>> PPPRRRRRRROOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!
>>
>> And none of your mcFey shite, either, b'luto.
>
> Have a look at what the CIA has to say about the following gentlemen at
> http://www.archives.gov/iwg/declassified-records/rg-263-cia-records/rg-263-report.html?template=print

Is that the same CIA who, along with the FBI declared that the attack on the
WTC was motivated by pro-israel US foreign policy and the ongoing conflict
between Ersatz israel and the Palestinians?

Benjamin Cramer

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May 16, 2007, 6:55:17 AM5/16/07
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"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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PROOOOFFFFF, b'luto. You're forever screeching for it.


Topaz

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May 16, 2007, 10:18:07 AM5/16/07
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On 15 May 2007 23:48:10 -0700, Joe Bruno <br...@indystart.com> wrote:


>Really? Why, pray tell, did so many of them run into hiding after
>WWII?
>

Jews

The Diaries of Charles A. Lindbergh, p.986

"That young girl riding on her bicycle - she must know that on the
day the Russians come she will probably be raped by a dozen soldiers.
When do they come? In days? In weeks? That, we have not told the
Germans. She has a good face - nicely dressed in old but clean and
brightly colored garments - like the daughter of a middle class
American family. I realize that we Americans are holding her at
Dessau. She cannot flee to safety.
We will not let her pass our sentries on the roads. We are turning her
and thousands of
others like her over to the Soviet soldiers for their sport. I feel
ashamed."

p.961
"German children look in through the window. We have more food than
we need, but regulations prevent giving it to them. It is difficult to
look at them. I feel ashamed of myself, of my people, as I eat and
watch those children. They are not to blame for the war. They are
hungry children. What right have we to stuff ourselves while they look
on - well-fed men eating, leaving unwanted food on plates, while
hungry children look on."

Berlin Correspondent, The Times, September 10th, 1945

"...Another small boy turned out of Danzig had a scrawled postcard
attached to him stating that his soldier father was long since missing
and that his mother and two sisters had died of hunger."

At this time, Denmark, formerly occupied by the Germans as a means
of denying the allies a North Sea bridgehead was bursting at the seams
with surplus food and was pleading with the allies to put it to good
use. It was refused.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.ihr.org/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html http://www.nsm88.com/

Joe Bruno

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May 16, 2007, 10:52:23 AM5/16/07
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On May 16, 3:26 am, "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look guilty. I
> do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get yourself a
> good education before you open your mouth.
>
> Kurt Knoll.

Fuck you twice and fuck your brother 5 times.

>
> Kurt Knoll.
>
> "Joe Bruno" <b...@indystart.com> wrote in message

> > in a farmhouse. Looks like pretty guilty behavior to me.- Hide quoted text -
>
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Duwop

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May 16, 2007, 1:22:27 PM5/16/07
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On May 15, 10:16 pm, LIBERATOR <spy.exp...@linuxmail.org> wrote:

It's true, the SS was simply a front for tea cozy collecting soldiers
who liked to discuss their tea cozy collection whilst knitting.

Just a knitting circle, really.

With really fabulous uniforms and accessories.


george

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May 16, 2007, 3:42:43 PM5/16/07
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On May 17, 2:52 am, Joe Bruno <b...@indystart.com> wrote:

>
> > Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look guilty. I
> > do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get yourself a
> > good education before you open your mouth.
>
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> Fuck you twice and fuck your brother 5 times.

Could explain why nazis dont breed

Kenneth McVay OBC

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May 16, 2007, 3:46:50 PM5/16/07
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In article <1179344563....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

Could explain why Kurt and Werner are so close. Remember, kids, incest is
BAD.


--
"What did you say. Did the burry the train with the show wen
can you show us the buried train Sara. As you know seeing is beliving."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Richard Warren

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May 16, 2007, 4:10:49 PM5/16/07
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"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
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> In article <1179344563....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>>On May 17, 2:52 am, Joe Bruno <b...@indystart.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look
>>> > guilty. I
>>> > do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get
>>> > yourself a
>>> > good education before you open your mouth.
>>>
>>> > Kurt Knoll.
>>>
>>> Fuck you twice and fuck your brother 5 times.
>>
>>Could explain why nazis dont breed
>
> Could explain why Kurt and Werner are so close. Remember, kids, incest is
> BAD.


Get real guy. I know a german soldier once who said me that.

Sara Salzman

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May 16, 2007, 7:36:58 PM5/16/07
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In article <dzJ2i.19923$5Z6.819@trndny05>,
"Richard Warren" <rwa...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
> news:134mnta...@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <1179344563....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> > george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> >>On May 17, 2:52 am, Joe Bruno <b...@indystart.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> > Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look
> >>> > guilty. I
> >>> > do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get
> >>> > yourself a
> >>> > good education before you open your mouth.
> >>>
> >>> > Kurt Knoll.
> >>>
> >>> Fuck you twice and fuck your brother 5 times.
> >>
> >>Could explain why nazis dont breed
> >
> > Could explain why Kurt and Werner are so close. Remember, kids, incest is
> > BAD.
>
>
>
>
> Get real guy. I know a german soldier once who said me that.
>
>
>

Really? Where can we read the original document, Kurt? We all know what
kind of liar you are.

Sara

--
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.
  - Heinrich Heine, eerily summing up the persona of "Ben Cramer"

Kenneth McVay OBC

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May 16, 2007, 7:44:31 PM5/16/07
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In article <catamont-5CCFA4...@news.giganews.com>,

Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <dzJ2i.19923$5Z6.819@trndny05>,
> "Richard Warren" <rwa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
>> news:134mnta...@corp.supernews.com...
>> > In article <1179344563....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>> > george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>> >>On May 17, 2:52 am, Joe Bruno <b...@indystart.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> > Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look
>> >>> > guilty. I
>> >>> > do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get
>> >>> > yourself a
>> >>> > good education before you open your mouth.
>> >>>
>> >>> > Kurt Knoll.
>> >>>
>> >>> Fuck you twice and fuck your brother 5 times.
>> >>
>> >>Could explain why nazis dont breed
>> >
>> > Could explain why Kurt and Werner are so close. Remember, kids, incest is
>> > BAD.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Get real guy. I know a german soldier once who said me that.
>>
>>
>>
>Really? Where can we read the original document, Kurt? We all know what
>kind of liar you are.

His tribe is well known for being liars down through the centuries.
I read that on the net.

george

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May 16, 2007, 8:00:15 PM5/16/07
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On May 16, 10:26 pm, "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look guilty. I
> do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions.


No answer eh.

Joe Bruno

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May 16, 2007, 10:34:06 PM5/16/07
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You think Kurt is stupid? Compared to his brother, he's Albert
Einstein.


Benjamin Cramer

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"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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> On May 16, 3:26 am, "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Do you mean hiding from you two faced coock sucker make them look guilty.
>> I
>> do not think you guys ever did have any honest intentions. Get yourself a
>> good education before you open your mouth.
>>
>> Kurt Knoll.
>
> Fuck you twice and fuck your brother 5 times.

Something wrong, b'luto? Gone all purple in the kisser again? Careful. At
your advanced age, you're likely to pop a valve.


Topaz

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May 17, 2007, 6:06:35 PM5/17/07
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This speech delivered by Dr. Walter Grob, the head of the Nazi Party's
Office of Racial Policy. He was speaking to a women's meeting at the
Gau Party Rally in Cologne on 13 October 1934. After this speech I
will make my comment on it.
My Dear German Women and Girls!
When Germans come together today to discuss the things that concern us
both as individuals and as a nation, it is a solemn occasion, whether
we wish it to be or not. During the political struggles of the past,
we could speak of party programs or of civilization without any
involvement of our soul.
Now we have forgotten how to approach an issue merely with our
understanding, merely with our mouth, merely with our heart. We have
become whole people once again. When we speak with others, we do so
with our full being.
That is what made the movement strong, and great, and powerful from
its first days. It is also that which the enemy on this side of the
border and the other cannot understand, and which it hates with deadly
strength. As this great and beautiful people's movement began, so too
began a hard and bitter struggle between enemy and German forces,
between an old world that is really long dead and buried, and the new
world that is struggling to reach the light through us. This struggle
has been going on in people's hearts and souls for years, and is
nowhere near its end. The world finds it difficult to understand that
which is at the center of our endeavors:
The value of blood and race.
Our enemies first laughed in pity, then in hatred as we spoke of it.
Let us speak of what we National Socialists mean by that so that it
will become clear why the German woman may be even more concerned
about these matters than the man, his state, and his fighting
organization can be.
There was a time in the past when we were untrue, untrue in the
deepest sense. We were untrue not to other people, or parties, or
states, or kings, but untrue to something far greater, untrue to the
laws of life. As long as the world exists, as long as life grows,
flourishes and perishes, so long will this life have the urge to live
on into the future and win new territory. Whether plant or animal or
man-as we, or I, or you:
wherever there is life, it has the longing to bring forth new life.
It should be unnecessary to speak of such things. We speak of them
only because for a few decades a crazy era ignored, blasphemed and
mocked these greatest, most beautiful and purest dreams of life. This
was an age that made the idol of money supreme and said: "The world
should be governed not be what serves life, rather by what some fool
of an accountant decides is best." We know the results. The great laws
of life were evaluated according to money sacks and checkbooks. When
we think back on our parents, grandparents and great grandparents,
there were many children in the house. It may have been crowded and
hard financially, but we were happy, perhaps because there were so
many of us in so large a family. But the time came when people said:
"As man or woman, as parents or teachers of leaders, you have the duty
to show the people the way to a better future." That better future,
people thought, could only be a richer future, a future in which the
individual had more money. And when they were asked where this money
would come from, a false teaching arose in the last century: "The
fewer people there are, the more an individual child can inherit from
his parents." He who loves his children and wishes a prosperous future
for his nation should therefore see to it that Germany's population is
small, and that only a few children continue the family after he is
gone. That was the terrible teaching of birth control, which Marxism
preached and the bourgeois followed. No one dared stand against it.
That was the doctrine that made us what we are today:
a dying people,
in which fewer children are born each year, in which today more people
die each year than are born. This all was supposed to lead to a happy
future. It understood happiness only in terms of possessions. It was
therefore inherently false. But even in its own terms it was false,
for it forgot something:
When a people begins to die, when a people no longer obeys the laws of
life, when a people values money more than its existence and
posterity, this people is on the path to disaster, both historically
and politically. Within a few decades it will be dead, oppressed by
other peoples who are stronger, closer to life, and who follow life's
laws better than we.
If present trends continue, by the end of the century Germany will be
a nation with only 40-50 million inhabitants,
and we know that on our borders other peoples are growing quickly and
strongly. Sooner or later, these other peoples will come in conflict
with a shrinking and dying German people, and the result of the
supposed doctrine of happiness will be a hard and bitter
national death for our children.
Those who believed that they can give their children a happy and
peaceful future by reducing the number of children err deeply. They
give the children only the promise of a hard and bitter struggle for
Germany's existence as a state and as an idea.
Today when we work to show people that the ideas of yesterday are
false, that the state and nation cannot do without the family, that
the family cannot exist without children, and when we not only provide
economic support to make it easier to begin families and have
children, but also tell people again and again of the sanctity of life
and the necessity of continuing our people into the future, our
enemies on both sides of the border suddenly have insults and hateful
things to say about us. They wish to disturb our work. Suddenly there
are voices saying: "National Socialism's doctrines are inhumane and
barbaric. National Socialism's views on children turn people into
breeding animals. When it says
that it is the duty of men and women to continue the eternal chain of
life, a chain that begins in the distant past and continues into the
future, a chain of which we are only a link leading into the distant
future,
our enemies on both sides of the border claim: "You reject the dignity
and value of humanity. National Socialism holds that men and women
have no value other than that of breeding cattle." It is a shame that
we have to respond to such words, but it is necessary because our
enemies have always tried to persuade women to oppose us, even though
what we say is rooted in the souls of the men and women we speak to.
This is our response: "You are mistaken in accusing us of thinking
that the only purpose of humanity is to continue the species by
passing on our blood to future generations. We know the other values.
We support them and find wherever we can those values that the
individual shows in his work and selfless service. We know well enough
that
each person lives a double life. The first is the one he lives between
birth and death. We are to do as much as we can to make this life
rich, to accomplish that which is good and beautiful, to use our
strengths and gifts for others. That is the duty of the individual.
But as a person you are something more:
You are a member of the chain of life, a drop in the great bloodstream
of your people.
There too you have duties and obligations before the eternity of the
nation. You have the duty to pass on what you received from your
parents and ancestors. I do not believe that such behavior, which
obeys both the laws of reason and of life, is barbaric, hateful or
inhumane. I believe instead that the barbarism is to be found in the
years we have left behind us, when any dirty lout could besmirch the
most valuable, holy life of a man or women in their families, or drag
children through the filth, without anyone defending their culture
against such an attack.
I believe that when we tell people once more of the great value of
blood, and remind them that they have duties not only for the 60-year
span in which they work and serve, but also to the millennia of the
past from which we come and to the millennia of the future to which we
are heading, then we are giving them higher values than those of
yesterday. Let me say also, however, that it is wrong if someone
thinks that only those who found families and bear children are
valuable to our state. We know that is not so. We know there are
reasons why some people leave their people's flow of blood. We know
that some are denied what the nation places great value on. We do not
ignore them or think ourselves their betters. We only say this: "My
friend, you and I must do our duty to our people, and when we cannot
fulfill it in one way, then we must do what we can with even greater
energy and devotion.
When you do your duty, you are one of us,
we extend our hand to you, we honor your humanity and your service for
Germany. Let us work together so that in the future, as many people as
possible will be able to serve the nation in both ways.
That is a piece of the thinking of blood and race that National
Socialism has taught us. And there is another aspect. When we see
people today, we can recognize that we are not all alike. There are
differences in value;
each person does not have the same value as everyone else.
In the past, people believed that these differences were superficial,
the result of the environment in which one grew up. People believed
that what became of a person depended primarily on the house he grew
up in or in his social environment, or the class he came from. They
believed that a person born in a slum, surrounded by shadows, troubles
and poverty, a child lacking in love and affection, could only become
a second-class human being, a physically and psychologically ill
member of the society, someone failed by the society and the state.
One thought that a child growing up in such slum inevitably became
sick, or even criminal. It was because he grew up in such a poor
environment. The Marxists claimed that if every child in Germany grew
up in an environment that gave him all he needed, he would inevitably
become a useful, decent, upright, proud and honest adult. After a few
years or decades, the entire German people would consist of such
decent and useful people. In the past people believed the environment
was responsible even when a person failed miserably.
We recall the days of delirium, when millions of unemployed had been
thrown on the street by a sick political and economic system, made
superfluous. A single person pried the tracks apart and derailed a
train in the middle of the night. Within a minute he murdered 30
innocent people who had never done anything to him, and stole their
money. And what did the world of yesterday say? "He can't help
himself. He is a victim of circumstances. He has Beethoven's hands and
an artistic temperament. We need not put him on the gallows or in
prison to protect us and our children. No, this poor Schlesinger is
only sick because of his environment. Put him in a modern sanitarium,
give him what he needs: radio, a library, a smoking salon, a language
teacher, a pastor, a newspaper room, give him everything he needs to
put him in touch with better things. In a few years, this mass
murderer of 30 people will leave as an ideal human being, so pure and
innocent that one can put him in charge of a kindergarten." That's
what people thought in the past.
Today that seems a bad joke to us, a crazy fantasy, but a few years
ago it was government policy in Germany. Those who did well under such
policies and have joined to fight us think that they can accuse our
doctrines of blood and race as barbaric.
Why do we see things differently? Because we have learned something:
In the end, you are not as important and significant as you thought
yesterday;
your strength and abilities are not as great as you believed during
the liberal era. Oh yes, it was a lovely dream to say: "I will do with
my life what I want, and if I happen to be a teacher, I will teach
what I want, and do what I enjoy, and what I think right." Well, that
was your idea of the environment.
We are a bit more modest, a bit more humble before the laws of fate.
We have learned that what I can do for myself or what you can do for
yourself, or what we can all do to each other, is not as important, or
as deep, as that which a greater power has already done to us. It is
that power that even before our birth gave us a part of our nature,
and laid out our path for us in the world. Here are joined two things:
the knowledge of modern science and the sensitivity and understanding
of a humble person. Suddenly we see that:
What you are, what I am and what I can be in my life is in part
predetermined by that which I have inherited.
If my inheritance is good and strong, and if I am true to it and
develop what is within me, my life will be successful, and perhaps of
benefit and joy to others. If such an inheritance is denied me, or if
for some inexplicable reason fate has given me other, perhaps weak,
perhaps even bad traits, I can struggle against them for my entire
life, and will still not be able to rid myself of that which slumbers
in me because of the actions of a higher power.
We see then that a good part of a people's history is determined by
what it has inherited. If we ask what sorts of physical or
intellectual traits these may be, or what groups there are, we will
see that each people has three groups. The first is a large group of
people with average gifts, the most of us who are able to deal with
the normal problems life presents us with. Next there is a very small
group. This group has received a better inheritance than most of us,
not because of any particular virtue on its part, but simply because
of fate. The leaders of humanity, those who build states, lead people,
or touch the soul, come from this group. And there is a third small
group with particular traits, also not their fault: those who are sick
or genetically defective. They are not up to the challenges of life,
and need outside help to survive.
As humanity of a nation goes through the centuries, the decisive fact
is which of these three groups is the strongest. One might say: "That
is not a question at all. The strongest will win, the group from which
the leaders come. This superior group has to be the strongest in the
end, it must gradually have its way." Well, that is how things would
be without people, if people with their little brains did not believe
that they could change the laws of life given to the world by heaven.
Man has interfered in these matters. He has tried to change the laws
of struggle and existence and selection. Those were ancient laws of
life, to which men too were subject:
That which cannot meet the challenges dies.
That is hard, perhaps, but it is also the way that nature makes life
stronger and better. Man has tried more and more to abolish these
laws. He has kept life going by using artificial means in cases where,
left to itself, it would have ended. He used all his understanding,
love and sympathy to keep a person alive, even when it is no joy, but
only a burden and misery. We now keep thousands, even tens of
thousands of unhappy creatures alive through artificial means, those
to whom life itself has denied the right to life. But keeping them
alive was not itself the problem. What is worse is that they were
given the opportunity to pass on their unfortunate physical and mental
characteristics. That was the worst that happened: we took the
physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically defective criminals
and not only kept them alive and cared for them-that is our duty as
human beings, which we certainly do not want to ignore in the future
either-and gave them the ability to have children with the same
deficiencies, thus doubling or multiplying their misery. The German
people do not know the extent of this misery, it does not know the
depressing spirit of the homes where thousands of cripples live their
lives only by being fed and cared for, poor creatures who are worse
than any animal. The animal at least is as it should be. These poor
creatures are distortions of life, no joy either to themselves or
others. They are a burden throughout their miserable existences, but
thanks to the selfless care and devotion of those who care for them
may live 60, 70 or 80 years. The German people do not realize the
enormous sums that have been spent for decades, money that is taken
from those who are healthy, who could do something useful, but cannot
because the money is lacking.
There was a winter in which children in Bavaria did not even have
wooden shoes to wear as they walked through the snow on their way to
school. They had to walk for hours bare-footed. At the same time, the
government made sure that those unfortunate souls in a large
institution had fresh bananas twice a week so that they got the
necessary vitamins. But these vitamins could not give them joy or
strength or health. But they were thus denied to those somewhere in
the Bavarian forest, or in the Ruhr, or in a poor fishing village on
the Frisian coast, where they could have reduced the poverty and need
in some worker's house. At the same time there was a case where
a single mentally ill Negro of English citizenship lived for 16 years
in an institution in Berlin, costing 26,000 Marks.
26,000 Marks were thrown away on a life that had no meaning. 26,000
Marks that could have been used to prepare a dozen strong, healthy and
gifted children for life and a job.
But I am not speaking of this as a kind of theft. Money is not an end
in itself. Rather, we have here committed a theft of spirit and soul,
because we tried to persuade the nation and humanity that our own
greatness could come from sacrificing for the worst and most helpless.
In the end, we went so far as
to put the sick and the dying before the young, strong, healthy and
promising.
That is against nature and life. A nation going this way is heading
for the abyss. We went so far as to preach year after year to healthy
families that they should have no children, or at most one, else they
sinned against the nation and the spirit of this enlightened age. But
if some imbecile of a whore and a genetically ill criminal had
children, they were not only a financial burden for their entire
lives, but also took the labor of people who our society gave nothing
better to do than to change these poor creatures three times a day and
feed them. That is a perversion of everything great and healthy, and
is a sin against life and the spirit of creation.
With full knowledge of our duties as human beings and the requirements
of pity, we made the decision not to allow such miserable creatures to
pass on their misery to the next generation, multiplied perhaps two or
three or more times. That is a major accomplishment, for which our
children and their children will one day thank us.
I know that there are those who will say: "You are meddling in matters
that are not your concern. You are interfering in an area outside
human control. Life and death are not in the hands of man, but in
those of a higher power. If God wants sick and genetically ill people
to be born, you may not interfere through laws, operations, or any
other measures with God's will. And if you do so-and you have with
your Law to Prevent Inherited Illness-then you are acting against the
will of God, and you are heretics."
This is our answer: "My friend, you are wrong. It is true that we are
subject to a higher power. We humans may never interfere with the
great laws of the Creator. But you are wrong. See the laws the Creator
has established for his world and your life. The great law is that
life must be able to preserve itself, and that if it cannot, it will
collapse. It is the hard, brutal law of the struggle for existence and
of selection and extinction. It was the law we saw day by day, hour by
hour, under all the clouds of heaven and all the stars of the sky, in
which life seemed to find a senseless death, whether plant or animal
or person, whether in distant Africa or near us.
That which cannot meet the challenges of life dies, no matter how much
pain it causes,
and even if your small understanding or mind cannot comprehend it,
these are the great laws of life and the world that God himself gave
us. These are the laws, my German friend, that in our crazy fantasies
we broke in the past."
With overweening human pride and false pity, we broke the great law
and kept those alive who under the laws of God would long since have
perished.
Today we are once more following these old laws, using humane methods,
for they follow a more hard and brutal course in nature according to
God's will. We are doing nothing more than reestablishing the laws of
creation, and bowing to the heavenly order. We are thus showing piety
and true humility-you are the heretics.
This applies as well to the third and last principle of our racial
thinking. This third and last principle is that the people on this
world, in America, Africa or China, are different both in body and
soul. They are not equal, as yesterday's lie had it.
People are different.
They not only speak different languages and look different: no, they
are different in the depths of their hearts and natures, and in their
abilities for good and evil. In the past people believed that these
differences were accidental, the result of climate or civilization,
and that one could overcome these differences and create a unified man
in a unified state in which all would be equally happy. We have
learned that such ideas are false. We have learned that the
differences between the major blood groups of the world, between the
major races, are not the result of human action, but of the laws of
Creation. We have learned that the lines between blood and blood, race
and race, are also the lines between soul and soul and spirit and
spirit. We have learned that the opposite of the old phrase "What God
has brought together, let no man put asunder" is also true. We have
learned:
What God has separated, man should not bring together.
Heaven thought it good not to have only one type of people on the
earth, but different kinds, various racially-bound peoples. That is a
part of Creation. We bow before this truth and respect the borders.
That means that the foundation of our separation of the races is not a
matter of politics or economics, rather it rests on a higher level, to
which we in the end are responsible.
In our Reich, we are separating that which belongs to us, because it
is blood of our blood, from that which does not belong to us, because
it is foreign. We are doing that which is right not only for the
moment, but for eternity.
Believe me, my dear German fellow citizens, it is not true, as some
say, that this doctrine is a sign of arrogance or superiority or
boasting. We do not think ourselves better than the other races on the
earth. No, we do not think ourselves better, nor do we believe that
others are worse than we are. We insist only on one thing-a law
established by the Creator himself:
Man differs from man and race from race in this world.
The others may not be better or worse, but they are different than we
are, and because they are different than we are, there is a kind of
wall between us that is part of the laws of life. That is the core of
National Socialism's racial thinking. Our goal is not to insult
others, to say: "What a great guy I am!" Rather, we hold to the humble
recognition that each healthy piece of life has its corner of the
world, and its special tasks. This is just as true of humans as it is
of plants and animals in all their multiplicity. We know that one type
is no more valuable than another. But we also know that each variety
of life has a right to existence only as long as it keeps itself pure
and strong. Only when a tree bears the proper fruit does it have a
right to live. Otherwise it will be cut down and destroyed. We do not
know why things are the way they are, and it would be foolish to ask
the reason. That is how things are. Our task is to humbly accept the
laws that govern our human existence, and to accept the fact that we
are born Germans in Germany, not as Chinese or Eskimos. That is not
because of our virtues, nor it is our fault, nor was it our will. It
was fate that came from above. We have no choice but to accept this
fate and to develop the abilities that fate has given us according to
necessity and law.
Others may develop in their own way, in their own land. We must listen
to the depths of our own people, to draw from blood and inheritance
the strength we need to build our homeland. A higher power will take
care of the life beyond.
I believe, my dear German fellow citizens, that everyone who is of our
spirit will grant the correctness of our thinking about blood and
race, and will say: "I see now that you are not only on the right
path, but are honest and in the deepest sense true to demands that are
greater than the laws of man."
Let us then together follow the path to a new worldview. Let us go the
path of blood and race, which does not ignore faith and knowledge and
a sense of higher powers. Let us go this path, not a path of matter,
superstition and heresy, rather a path of deep humility and piety
before the laws of God. Let us go along this path together and listen
to the deepest depths where blood and soul rule. Let us draw from
there the strength to build the state, and even more important the
Reich. It will be a Reich not only of politics, a Reich of
organization, or the economy, but a Reich of people. Germany today has
the fortune to find a new way, led by a great Fuehrer. German women
today have the good fortune to see a strong and loyal woman at their
head. Let us together go forward, hand in hand, as befits comrades
building the future, and let us join the strength of men and women,
rooted deep in their blood, to build what the world has never before
seen:
The holy Reich of the German soul.
Heil!

My comment:

In the past there was survival of the fittest and humans evolved
into higher beings with that. But it was a cruel world. Notice in the
above speech that he did say:

"we took the physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically
defective criminals and not only kept them alive and cared for
them-that is our duty as human beings, which we certainly do not want
to ignore in the future either"

Survival of the fittest should be replaced by sterilization. We would
still evolve into higher beings, but this way is much more humane.

We should take care for those who need help and many work hours
would be done to provide for them, and all we ask in return is for
them not to pass their misfortune onto more generations. We are not
asking too much at all.

It was a great speech. These policies that would make a nation
unimaginably great, a heaven on earth. Heil Hitler.

Chris C. Larson

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On May 17, 5:06 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
tripe snipped

Alex:
First I'm amused that you think anybody would read your posts.
Especially your cut and paste tripe. But regarding your alleged
original comments (which are rare); do you REALLY think that anyone
wants to be part of something that includes a person like yourself?

"Racially aware whites", have exhibited virtually no redeeming
qualities and provide no value to mankind. Period.


oneey...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2007, 11:43:01 AM5/18/07
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> Hitler instructed his SS to be totally loose and humane to enemy
> soldiers who surrendered, and loose they were they didnt even disarm
> them. Once you surrender to a Waffen SS man it's your duty and honor
> to refrain from further combat, we trust you us Germans..


There was a difference between Waffen-SS and Totenkopf units who
worked in death camps. Typical revisionist way to mix things together.

But Waffen-SS also commited war crimes. Especially in th east.
Remember Hitler's order of commissars and communist party members for
example.

Totenkopf was at the same time an elite Waffen-SS division and also
the instrument of terror in Camps. There were men who fought at the
front and sometimes served in camps. There is a tie between holocaust
and Waffen-SS and no real historian denies it.

Kurt Knoll

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May 18, 2007, 12:19:04 PM5/18/07
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What else is new. I remember as a kid when the waffen ss was formed. It was
a whole division of regular soldier who where over night members of the
waffen SS. You must also remember the war in Russia and France was not only
a regular war but mostly also a terrorist or call it a Partisanen war.
Partisans eg terrorist were not covered by the Geneva conventions. When a
terrorist eg Partisans shoot regular soldiers into the back what do you
expect them to do.

Kurt Knoll.

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oneey...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2007, 12:31:09 PM5/18/07
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Kurt Knoll kirjoitti:

> What else is new. I remember as a kid when the waffen ss was formed. It was
> a whole division of regular soldier who where over night members of the
> waffen SS.

Waffe-SS had a long process. And they weren't a "normal" soldiers. At
first they had very strict rules about physicality. It wasn't an
overnight decision to just change the name.


>You must also remember the war in Russia and France was not only
> a regular war but mostly also a terrorist or call it a Partisanen war.

It was a racial and ideolgical war. Hitler made that clear to army
commanders and SS-units.

> Partisans eg terrorist were not covered by the Geneva conventions. When a
> terrorist eg Partisans shoot regular soldiers into the back what do you
> expect them to do.

Countless of destroyed villages and 18 million dead civilians in the
hands of Nazi-German troops. "Terrorist" is an excuse and nazi-troops
didn't need one, they had an order from Führer.

Kurt Knoll

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May 18, 2007, 12:35:08 PM5/18/07
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Altering text seems to be a speciality of yours. Here i do repost it again.

What else is new. I remember as a kid when the waffen ss was formed. It was
a whole division of regular soldier who where over night members of the

waffen SS. You must also remember the war in Russia and France was not only


a regular war but mostly also a terrorist or call it a Partisanen war.

Partisans eg terrorist were not covered by the Geneva conventions. When a
terrorist eg Partisans shoot regular soldiers into the back what do you
expect them to do.

Kurt Knoll.

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Sara Salzman

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May 18, 2007, 2:40:31 PM5/18/07
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In article <0Bk3i.194157$6m4.122978@pd7urf1no>,
"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

There's nothing like an idiot to say "you altered my text" and then
repost it to prove that not a single word was altered.

Kurt, Werner called. The neuron died.

Kurt Knoll

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May 18, 2007, 3:01:29 PM5/18/07
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Really Sara was it the whole txt or just part of it. Take a word count of my
original posting and then take a word count of my posting where he replied
too.

Kurt Knoll.

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Sara Salzman

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May 18, 2007, 3:51:29 PM5/18/07
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In article <dKm3i.194495$6m4.175522@pd7urf1no>,
"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Really Sara was it the whole txt or just part of it. Take a word count of my
> original posting and then take a word count of my posting where he replied
> too.
>
> Kurt Knoll.


I did. It is EXACTLY the same, Kurt. He didn't delete a single word.

You are an idiot.

Sara

Kenneth McVay OBC

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May 18, 2007, 4:25:11 PM5/18/07
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In article <catamont-AF967E...@news.giganews.com>,

Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <dKm3i.194495$6m4.175522@pd7urf1no>,
> "Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Really Sara was it the whole txt or just part of it. Take a word count of my
>> original posting and then take a word count of my posting where he replied
>> too.
>>
>> Kurt Knoll.
>
>
>I did. It is EXACTLY the same, Kurt. He didn't delete a single word.
>
>You are an idiot.

I know an SS guy who lives above the Dachau gas chamber who told me
that Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll is too stupid to rise to
the lofty level of idiot.


--
"All shit like you have is lies and smears. Shit like you
can't refute what I post so shit like you resort to cheap
personal attacks and you wonder why kike filth is hated so much!
(Scott Bradbury, Bellville's leading revisionist scholar)

Kurt Knoll

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May 18, 2007, 4:31:26 PM5/18/07
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So why did I re post the original message over top of his.
Kurt Knoll.

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george

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On May 19, 7:51 am, Sara Salzman <catam...@concentric.net> wrote:
> In article <dKm3i.194495$6m4.175522@pd7urf1no>,
> "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Really Sara was it the whole txt or just part of it. Take a word count of my
> > original posting and then take a word count of my posting where he replied
> > too.
>
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> I did. It is EXACTLY the same, Kurt. He didn't delete a single word.
>
> You are an idiot.
>
As has been said elsewhere he is short, fat and thick and they are his
best physical points..
But what does one expect of some-one trying to raise their IQ into the
mid single digit range

Richard Warren

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"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> So why did I re post the original message over top of his.
> Kurt Knoll.

They already told you - because you are an IDIOT!


Sara Salzman

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May 18, 2007, 9:51:48 PM5/18/07
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In article <y2o3i.196270$aG1.59467@pd7urf3no>,
"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> So why did I re post the original message over top of his.
> Kurt Knoll.


... because you're a drunken old idiot?

(What do I win?)

jbr...@indystart.com

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May 18, 2007, 9:58:43 PM5/18/07
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On May 18, 6:51 pm, Sara Salzman <catam...@concentric.net> wrote:
> In article <y2o3i.196270$aG1.59467@pd7urf3no>,
> "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > So why did I re post the original message over top of his.
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> ... because you're a drunken old idiot?
>
> (What do I win?)

Kurt Knoll is a T-4 survivor
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sara Salzman" <catam...@concentric.net> wrote in message


> >news:catamont-AF967E...@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <dKm3i.194495$6m4.175522@pd7urf1no>,

> > > "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Really Sara was it the whole txt or just part of it. Take a word count of
> > >> my
> > >> original posting and then take a word count of my posting where he
> > >> replied
> > >> too.
>
> > >> Kurt Knoll.
>
> > > I did. It is EXACTLY the same, Kurt. He didn't delete a single word.
>
> > > You are an idiot.
>
> > > Sara
>

> > >> "Sara Salzman" <catam...@concentric.net> wrote in message


> > >>news:catamont-10B4AC...@news.giganews.com...
> > >> > In article <0Bk3i.194157$6m4.122978@pd7urf1no>,

> > >> > "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Altering text seems to be a speciality of yours. Here i do repost it
> > >> >> again.
>
> > >> >> What else is new. I remember as a kid when the waffen ss was formed.
> > >> >> It
> > >> >> was
> > >> >> a whole division of regular soldier who where over night members of
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> waffen SS. You must also remember the war in Russia and France was not
> > >> >> only
> > >> >> a regular war but mostly also a terrorist or call it a Partisanen war.
> > >> >> Partisans eg terrorist were not covered by the Geneva conventions.
> > >> >> When a
> > >> >> terrorist eg Partisans shoot regular soldiers into the back what do
> > >> >> you
> > >> >> expect them to do.
>
> > >> >> Kurt Knoll.
>

> > >> >> <oneeyewo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> - Heinrich Heine, eerily summing up the persona of "Ben Cramer"- Hide quoted text -

Kurt Knoll

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I know your brain is all fucked up.

kk

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In article <aPt3i.194297$DE1.127574@pd7urf2no>,
"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I know your brain is all fucked up.
>
> kk

No, Kurt, YOUR brain is screwed up, You're the one who insisted that
someone who responded to your post without changing a single thing had
"snipped" your idiotic ramblings.

That is fucked up.

Sara

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