Neil Peart, Ph.D?
Afterburner
When I was in high school, I was told that Neil Peart, drummer for the
Canadian rock band Rush, had Ph.D in music. Due to my extreme love of
their music and my intense respect for Mr. Peart's drumming prowess, I
believed this to be true.
Now, years later, I realize that it's probably NOT true, and I am 99%
convinced that it's an urban legend. My question is not "Is Neil Peart a
Ph.D?" but rather "Has anybody else ever heard this particular UL before?"
Afterburner
PeartChick
in answer to your question. it is an urban legend....neil does not have a
ph.d. in fact he never graduated from high school. he is seff-educated from
reading, travel, etc. "professor" is just a nickname.
peart chick
"i'm old enough not to care too much
about what you think of me"
macg...@ultracom.net
Some one in this group said he had a Phd in english. Isn't he called the
professor because he looks like the character of the same name from
Gilligan's island.
In article <19980313040...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
peart...@aol.com (PeartChick) wrote:
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Macgrath
wing...@ix.netcom.com
In <macgrath-130...@pm3-1u11.ultracom.net>
macg...@ultracom.net writes:
>
>Some one in this group said he had a Phd in english. Isn't he called
the
>professor because he looks like the character of the same name from
>Gilligan's island.
not look like the professor...I call him Ginger....
twosheds
Afterburner wrote:
>When I was in high school, I was told that Neil Peart, drummer for the
>Canadian rock band Rush, had Ph.D in music. Due to my extreme love of
>their music and my intense respect for Mr. Peart's drumming prowess, I
>believed this to be true.
I, too, heard that Peart had earned an advanced degree in music, but I
believe in the story I heard it was a M.S.
t.s.
pha...@icsi.net
"twosheds" <twos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> I, too, heard that Peart had earned an advanced degree in music, but I
> believe in the story I heard it was a M.S.
Well, what's so unusual about a degree in Music? I have one and almost
all of my Music professors had their doctorate in music. There were 2
types: Applied and Education. Education was for band directors,
elementary music teachers, etc. Applied was for freelance music,
professional musicians, etc. They could not teach in public schools
because they did not get a teaching certificate but they had their degree
in Music. Also under applied and education, there were also subgroups of
instrumental music or voice emphasis. My degree was a B.A. in Music
Education, instrumental music emphasis. My post graduate work is in
Biology (Genetics), go figure.
Bev.(I can dissect a frog & conduct a symphony orchestra concurrently)Hamilton
Mike Lantz
>Afterburner wrote:
>>When I was in high school, I was told that Neil Peart, drummer for the
>>Canadian rock band Rush, had Ph.D in music. Due to my extreme love of
>>their music and my intense respect for Mr. Peart's drumming prowess, I
>>believed this to be true.
>>
>>convinced that it's an urban legend. My question is not "Is Neil Peart a
>>Ph.D?" but rather "Has anybody else ever heard this particular UL before?"
I have heard this before too--but there was more to the rumour. Neil is said
to have been given an honorary PhD in Music. This is something I can see
happening and he isn't required to have a high school diploma for it to
happen. Perhaps Brock University in St Catherines gave one to him. Perhaps
it's all bullshit. Does anyone else KNOW, and can enlighten us without it
being speculation??
MikeL
Jeremy Dayton Brown
Anyone who is smart enough to read the Rush FAQs or the Visions
biography would learn that Neil dropped out of highschool.
Jeremy
--
"I can't pretend a stranger is a
long awaited friend"-Neil Peart
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http://www.noblecan.org/~jeremy
pe...@purdue.edu
darren
Mike Lantz <lan...@pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca> wrote in article
<lantzm.27...@pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca>...
> >Afterburner wrote:
SNIP
>
> I have heard this before too--but there was more to the rumour. Neil is
said
> to have been given an honorary PhD in Music. This is something I can see
> happening and he isn't required to have a high school diploma for it to
> happen. Perhaps Brock University in St Catherines gave one to him.
For CHRIST sake it's ST. CATHARINES!!!!!!
d.
Tom Scalf
Afterburner <abu...@erols.com> wrote:
>When I was in high school, I was told that Neil Peart, drummer for the
>Canadian rock band Rush, had Ph.D in music. Due to my extreme love of
>their music and my intense respect for Mr. Peart's drumming prowess, I
>believed this to be true.
don't know about that but I do know that the US Air Force General (4 star)
who is presently the commander of the Air Force Material Command was the
original drummer for the Ventures (theme of "Hawaii 5-0", "Walk, Don't
Run", etc.)
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Chris Larkin
Billy Joel dropped out of high school but got an honorary doctorate from
Hofstra University, so it is possible.
Debora
Tom Scalf wrote:
> don't know about that but I do know that the US Air Force General (4 star)
> who is presently the commander of the Air Force Material Command was the
> original drummer for the Ventures (theme of "Hawaii 5-0", "Walk, Don't
> Run", etc.)
where one of the members was a child actor in 'The Land of the Lost'. He
played that little furry creature with the cute name. Damn, I'm not too
bright sometimes (I believe I drowned a few too many brain cells this
weekend). Love 'The Land of the Lost' though. The Sleastacks were way
cool.
I also heard that 'Josh' from 'The Wonder Years' is Marilyn Manson. That
one is false, though. Mr. (or Mrs.) Manson has a keener sense of fashion
than that dorky kid.
Debora the Drum Rat, suffering amnesia
TTurbo30
Actually, Marilyn Manson was the older brother on "Mr. Belvedere". Believe it,
or not.....
Regards,
pratt
>
>I also heard that 'Josh' from 'The Wonder Years' is Marilyn Manson. That
>one is false, though. Mr. (or Mrs.) Manson has a keener sense of fashion
>than that dorky kid.
>
>Debora the Drum Rat, suffering amnesia
here's one for you about Mr./Ms. Manson.....If you watch Willy Wonka and
the Chocolate Factory, one of the kids standing by the Gate to the factory
when Wonka's letting the winners of the tour in was a young (maybe 6 or 8 year
old) Marilyn Manson. Just a bit of stupid, inane trivia you can share with
your friends.
-Pratt
-to reply via e-mail, remove the *SPAM* from the return address
SailorWhitch
Debora <deb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
<snippy-doo>
> I also heard that 'Josh' from 'The Wonder Years' is Marilyn Manson. That
> one is false, though. Mr. (or Mrs.) Manson has a keener sense of fashion
> than that dorky kid.
Heh. Kinda like that old rumor that Alice Cooper played Eddie on Leave it
to Beaver.
SailorWhitch (who missed Manson's book signing at the U. Bookstore last
weekend... oh well)
Tom Scalf
>> don't know about that but I do know that the US Air Force General (4 star)
>> who is presently the commander of the Air Force Material Command was the
>> original drummer for the Ventures (theme of "Hawaii 5-0", "Walk, Don't
>> Run", etc.)
Got an e-mail/posting from Bob Ward asking for more info. I haven't seen
his posting here yet, so i'll go ahead and post my reply.
I didn't see my post or your reply in alt.folklore.suburban tonight, so I
will answer you directly now and post to the ng later. In doing further
research, I found the following info.
The person i was referring to is Gen George Babbitt and he is the
Commander of the Air Materiel Command. An article including a picture of
Gen Babbitt playing with the group in '59 or'60 and a photo of him doing a
set with them when they played in DC on 1 March 1998 can be found at:.
http://www.afmc.wpafb.af.mil/organizations/HQ-AFMPC/PA/news/ventures.
html
If you have trouble going directly to this site (I did), go to:
http://www.afmc.wpafb.af.mil/organizations
then select "news" from the sidebar, then "Public Affairs" which is
listed under "Air Force News Services / Air Force Materiel Command News".
This will bring up a headlines page where you can link into the whole
article.
Next time, I'll try to do my complete research, before shooting off my
mouth. Yeh! Right! sure I will! (^:
BEGIN QUOTED MATERIAL:
During high school, Babbitt stumbled into a regular gig playing drums for
a fledgling rock band. He was approached by his next door neighbor who
said her brother was looking for a drummer for his band. The brother, Don
Wilson, was a charter member of The Ventures.
"Don's sister was my next-door neighbor," said Babbitt. "When they (Wilson
and Bob Bogle) first decided to play guitars, they were looking for a
drummer. We started playing at local parties and things in and around
Tacoma."
In 1959, the group financed their first single, "Cookies and Coke" with
"The Real McCoy" on the flip side.
"That record is a terrible record," said the general. "It's embarrassing,
it's so bad."
Regardless, the record received airplay in the Pacific Northwest for a
couple of months in 1959 and even hit "number one in Boise, Idaho," said
Babbitt. There are only three singles known to be in existence, one
encased in glass, hangs on the general's office wall in Dayton, Ohio.
A year went by and Wilson and Bogle decided they wanted to go
professional. Unfortunately for the younger Babbitt, that meant he would
be left behind. Still in high school, his life would take a different
track than the other band members.
"To be a professional musician in Washington state, you just about have to
be over 21 (years of age) because you have to play in bars," Babbitt said.
"If you're less than 21, you can't go into a bar. I was in high school and
about to go to college, so I dropped out of the band."
END QUOTE
>There is a rock band out there now, the name escapes me at the moment,
>where one of the members was a child actor in 'The Land of the Lost'. He
>played that little furry creature with the cute name. Damn, I'm not too
>bright sometimes (I believe I drowned a few too many brain cells this
>weekend). Love 'The Land of the Lost' though. The Sleastacks were way
>cool.
I loved it too. I taped all the episodes a couple of years ago when they
were running it on the SciFi Channel (then taped over they....OOPS).
They, also, did an updated version a few years ago, played on Nick (I
think). Adequate, but not as good as the original.
SailorWhitch
TTurbo30 <ttur...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980316192...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> Actually, Marilyn Manson was the older brother on "Mr. Belvedere".
Believe it,
> or not.....
Not... that was Rob Stone.
--SailorWhitch
wing...@ix.netcom.com
In <6enh20$e...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> "SailorWhitch"
<sailo...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>
>
>TTurbo30 <ttur...@aol.com> wrote in article
><19980316192...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>> Actually, Marilyn Manson was the older brother on "Mr. Belvedere".
>Believe it,
>> or not.....
Chris Raistrick
>Anyone who is smart enough to read the Rush FAQs or the Visions
>biography would learn that Neil dropped out of highschool.
>
Anyone who actualy is aware of Rush will know that he studied in
london.
Sghorwitz
Chris wrote:
>>Anyone who is smart enough to read the Rush FAQs or the Visions
>>biography would learn that Neil dropped out of highschool.
>>
>Anyone who actualy is aware of Rush will know that he studied in
>london.
Uh, not academically. He went there for the music and wound up scrapping out a
living. It's not like he was Mick Jagger at the London School of Economics.
The Professor
Chris Raistrick
On 19 Mar 1998 20:54:25 GMT, sgho...@aol.com (Sghorwitz) wrote:
> He went there for the music and wound up scrapping out a
>living.
Students in the UK do nothing else.
> It's not like he was Mick Jagger at the London School of Economics.
I know the LSE sounds good but it's just a college like the rest. (OK
a good one before LSE students start :) )
Sghorwitz
Chris wrote:
I understand. But even a bad college puts him one step ahead of Neil in terms
of formal education.
LSE was, during the 1930s, the best place in the world to study economics.
Sigh.
The Professor
Debora
Sghorwitz wrote:
>
> LSE was, during the 1930s, the best place in the world to study economics.
> Sigh.
>
that particular school at that time. Whew, never thought you were THAT
old, but it may explain your keen insight into GuP lyrics and the Great
Depression.
'I Like Ike',
Debora the Drum Rat
Sghorwitz
DtDR wrote:
Oooooh, good one Debora! I wish I could have gone there then, but alas, I'm
only 34. Born on the day the Beatles landed in America - Feb 7, 1964.
Another classic Aquarian.
The Professor
Mark Rohlf
Sghorwitz wrote:
> but alas, I'm only 34. Born on the day the Beatles landed in America - Feb
> 7, 1964.
Damn Prof. I thought you were older than me. You must have had your shit together
early.
I was a late bloomer. After high school, I drifted around for about 5 years ...
then I spent 5 years in the military. Finally got a BA in 96 ... 14 years after
high school. If I only knew then what I know now. :-o
I was born 11/16/63 ... 6 days before the JFK incident.
mr
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Sghorwitz
Mark wrote:
>Damn Prof. I thought you were older than me. You must have had your shit
>together
>early.
It's the hair. It's the hair. Sigh.
I was always sort of <insert age here> going on 40.
I think that's why I get such odd looks when my students come to office hours
and see me with the headphones on trying to air drum to Neil's cymbal work in
the 8-7-8-6 sections of "Driven".
The Professor
The Irish Bastard
Mark Rohlf decided to unleash this pearl of wisdom on the world:
> I was a late bloomer. After high school, I drifted around for about 5 years ...
> then I spent 5 years in the military. Finally got a BA in 96 ... 14 years after
> high school.
Congratulations on not giving up.
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