Why Is Johnny such an asshole?
Cody Montoya
I'm a Ramones fan of only 3 years,and I don't know why everybody here
says Johnny is a jerk.Can someone please tell me why he has such a bad
rep?
AENewmansux
not for Joey's voice and writing ability, Johnny " No Talent" Ramone would not
have a $3.5Mil home on the hills.
FuryGeo
whole Ramone image. And invented a new style of guitar playing. Plus, he was
the boss and kept the band going. Plus, he isn't an asshole, he just knows
how to rule with an iron fist.
GT
Stevebullitt
together for 23 years. if it wasn't for him the ramones would have imploded
back in the mid 80's.
he lives his life the way he wants to and if he proves smarter than the rest of
his brain dead bandmates, that's no one's fault but theirs.
for this he is an asshole? you can do better.
steverino......and i hate you all!!!!
aenewman
What would that have done? Made you happy? Fuck you...The guys dead and
although Johnny pulled some miracle shows outta his ass over the years
somethin' tells me that he was'nt gonna be ressurecting anybody that day.
>Johnny " No Talent" Ramone<
???!!! god, you're fuckin' stupid.
>$3.5Mil home on the hills.<
'Talented' enough to pull that off. Nothing wrong with having a nice house.
If you have the means....I highly reccomend picking one up.......It's so
choice.
Alfred Buehler
danke shoen
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aenewman
approachable and very cool and I believe that after our discussion was
probably considering having my black love child.
Alfred N
The KKK took my baby away
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Andy Helliwell
He doesnt have a bad reputation,STUPID people give him one.They pass comment on
him,saying that someone told them something bad about him,its bloody daft.He
played for over 20 years to the fans,I
say he deserves better from them !
Andy
http://ourworld-top.cs.com/AndyHelliwell/joey/index.html
pzramone
> Reason # 1-Well, he could have showed up at one of Joey' Tributes. If It were
> not for Joey's voice and writing ability, Johnny " No Talent" Ramone would not
> have a $3.5Mil home on the hills.
Johnny "No Talent" Ramone??? What are you talking about??
Johnny invented their look (check early pics and videos) and sound
(his guitar playing says all).
He problably never wrote many songs, especially after the 70's, but
the Ramones were always about his guitar playing and that made them an
original and revolutionary band.
He's my favorite ramone, despite the fact that he has a right wing
mind and we would disagree about every single stuff (especially
politics) besides music. I can even say that he got me into the
Stooges (like he did to Joey), the MC5 and the New York Dolls because
I started listen to these bands after reading Ramones interviews and
stuff.
Damiana Brichardi
Same here. I started listening to the Ramones and loved them. I read a
few interviews and saw what their influences were as well as the bands
that came the same time. I ran out and bought a Stooges album unheard
becasue I trusted the Ramones musical taste. And at the time, I had no
one else to guide me in the ways of punk rock.
I don't hate Johnny either. He was a cutie when he was younger!
Seriously tho' he was a major influence to the ramones sound, nobody
could play that assaultive, chainsaw sound like he could.
--
~*Damiana Brichardi*~
RIP Joey Ramone ;-;
1951-2001
Yoko
had to deal with a Department of Co-rexshunnns) . I want to keep my money.
I want more. I like it when we aid countries who are being wronged
(Bosnia, Kuwait).
But then again,, I'm a fucking bitch.
Yoooooooooooooooookoooooooooooooooooooooo
First stop: Havana a go go!
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: I met Johnny about 6 years ago at a comic convention. He was totally
:
:
Ronny Ramone
Johnny is a nazi. He is a complete fascist. I heard an internet
interview of him from @ 96' and it was absurd. He whined about how new
bands had ripped them off. He then said some of the new bands were
alright, but he was spewing bullshit just to sound cool. He then went
into a political thing about how messed up things were then in the
middle of the Clinton economic boom. He went on about work ethic...
Huh? Hearing Johnny talk about hard work made me want to puke.. This
coming from the leader of a band of glue sniffers with nothing to do.
Here is this old ass with a 20 year old Dorothy Hamill hair cut and torn
jeans telling me that I should support a bunch of old white guys
(Republicans) and their corporate agenda. If Johnny's Republican goons
had their way, there would not be the very cultural freedom that allowed
the Ramones to survive! Ironic, huh.
Johnny ended the Ramones. He called it quits. Johnny controlled the
name. Johnny could have quit the band and offered his position to a
youngster (see DeeDee/CJ). The Ramones "brotherhood" and their spirit
could have played FOREVER in some incarnation. Nope. Johnny thought the
Ramones were HIS band. He packed up all his shit and moved to
California. Fuck the other guys. Fuck funerals. When it came to money
(Anthology press at Virgin), Johnny got off his lazy ass and went back
to New York.
The "Johnny invented a guitar technique" stuff his NONSENSE. Down
stroking bar chords is not an innovation in technique. No more than
driving a car in first gear all day is automotive innovation. Duh. any
moron can do it. If you did it for every Ramones show, you would get as
fast as Johnny. The truth is that Johnny is the FARTHEST thing from
being a real musician and HE would be the first to tell you this.
Johnny gave away all his Mosrite guitars after the final show and has no
interest in playing the guitar again -EVER. Huh? Apparently guitar
playing and the Ramones were simply a job to Johnny. He was doing his
job. Could the Ramones have conitinued for a few extra years? sure.
Could they have produced two more albums and NOT toured? DEFINITELY.
But Johnny doesnt like making records. Johnny doesn't write music by
himself. Johnny doesn't really play guitar... Johnny doesn't practice
his guitar playing. Johnny doesn't like ANY foriegn countries... Fuck
Johnny! I heard that Johnny once stopped a re-mix of Halfway to Sanity
by Richie Ramone because it was costing too much money. He would just
as well go with the weaker completed version. It is reasonable to
assume that Johnny did not like making records. He always had other
decent studio guitar players around him to play his leads. Hearing him
talk about the Adios Amigos recording sessions made me want to puke.
Johnny's attitude was like... "If this album doesn't sell really well
(as in hit), we won't do anymore albums." What a crock of shit. You
make albums because you like making music and like getting it out to
your fans. To Johnny it was all business. An argument can be made that
Johnnys dislike for studios and recording sessions might have hampered
the Ramones ability to create a hit. Sometimes great recordings take
more that a few hours to make. If your already home playing with your
cat or watching the Yankees play Detroit, then you probably just dont
give a shit.
FYI, In the crowd frenzy car scenes from South America, Who is the
whiney voice you hear bitching at Monty. Sounds like Johnny to me.
Anything good about Johnny? He watched after their money and made their
Rock N' Roll lives possible. He kept the group playing mostly hard-
classic Ramones music. He was smart enough to understand that his crazy
political beliefs would not fly in general public and was able to keep
politics out of the band. When politics were approached, it was done in
typical comic book Ramones style. We are lucky to still have him with
us. We almost lost Johnny to a nasty head injury when Seth Macklin of
band Sub Zero Construction pounded his head into the concrete during a
bar confrontation. I always wondered if that brain injury had something
to do with his simplistic Republican babblings.... I DO NOT buy the
presumption that Johnny was responsible for the Ramones leather image.
There is some old CBGB footage where Johnny is wearing this glam fluffy
open front shirt. His hair was still the same, but the shirt was frilly
glam shit. We know Joey was pretty glam in his Spyder group. I suspect
the harder image was probably more the work of Tommy and Dee Dee...
That is my take.
RR.
What is CJ's quote.... "If there is hell. Johnny is going." Something
like that...
also.. Bessman's American Band book is looking more and more like a
piece of shit these days. While some of the info is just wrong, the
real problem with the book is that it is pure glossy bullshit. I wish
Joey had written a book. Dee Dee had his vision. Johnnys & Markys book
would be worthless. Someone should write the whole freakin story. A
half hour on VH1 did not cut it.
aenewman
Alfred N
Durango 95
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FuryGeo
Ramones were HIS band. <<
After a short time, I believe they were.
Nice rant, though, Very imformative.
GT
Ignorance is Bliss
Manuel R
Don't read Bessman. Bessman's a hack. Real kiss ass shit. Bessman
doesn't even qualify as an art fag. Dee Dee knew it. that's why he
didn't talk to him. Dee Dee wasn't writing any book back then. He just
didn't want to talk to Bessman. He even got shit wrong, but I love
that part.The Ritchie Ramone caddy stuff was a Dee Dee-Ritchie
thing-some fucked up story they started to bust on Bessman, see if he
was looser enough to write it. Talk to Dee Dee he'll tell you. Ritchie
and Dee Dee together--those guys were sick. And now that Joey's dead,
all these other truths are coming out--Johnny stole Joey's girl and
hid her out in hotel rooms for years. Hence the hatred. Where was
Bessman on that? Read Legs McNeil. Holstrom. George Tab. These guys
should get the money for writing books. Anybody but Bessman.
joey90
if you think he's a nazi and a complete fascist, so what??!!...go back to
what you heard on internet, fuck yourself, die, and shut the fuck up!!!
Johnny rule, Dee Dee suck and Marky smell glue.....Johnny is such an asshole
to poop on your face, you fuck!
Manuel R <manue...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message :
59b681c1.01060...@posting.google.com...
joey90
Manuel R <manue...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message :
59b681c1.01060...@posting.google.com...
Manuel R
like Dee Dee he didn't give a fuck. Eveyrbody says Ritchie was least
punk but look at how he quit. At the end of a show he looks at Johnny
Ramone and tells him 'Fuck you I don't want to be in no band with you
no more cause you suck.' Then Ritchie walks off stage and nobody hears
from him again. And the thing is they gave him the money he wanted. He
quit anyway. That's so cool. Why didn't that no-talent hack ass
kissing groupie Bessman put that in the book? It's not like nobody
knew it. Dee Dee was telling it for a year.
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Wheatus Rocks
And you know this to be true because?
Nearwidow
Manuel gibbered:
: Don't read Bessman. Bessman's a hack. Real kiss ass shit. Bessman
: doesn't even qualify as an art fag. Dee Dee knew it. that's why he
: didn't talk to him. Dee Dee wasn't writing any book back then. He just
: didn't want to talk to Bessman. He even got shit wrong, but I love
: that part.The Ritchie Ramone caddy stuff was a Dee Dee-Ritchie
: thing-some fucked up story they started to bust on Bessman, see if he
: was looser enough to write it. Talk to Dee Dee he'll tell you. Ritchie
: and Dee Dee together--those guys were sick. And now that Joey's dead,
: all these other truths are coming out--Johnny stole Joey's girl and
: hid her out in hotel rooms for years. Hence the hatred. Where was
: Bessman on that? Read Legs McNeil. Holstrom. George Tab. These guys
: should get the money for writing books. Anybody but Bessman.
John Holmstrom was approached to write this 'Ramones' book by the St
Martin's ppl. He said no. So did Legs because he was working on 'Please
Kill Me' which Dee Dee did a LOT for (in fact came up with the concept it
is reported by the above mentioned persons).<-- so Dee Dee WAS doing
something at the time.
But Bessman did it and I don't think it's all *that* bad. Nothing else was
doing about the Ramones at the time (93,94) so I appreciated it for that.It
was cool to go into Barnes and Noble in Paramus AND Orlando and see it on
the shelf.
Interestingly, if you want any factual information about Dee Dee, you
should ask Finland's finest, Jari-Pekka. I would have to say that he's just
about an authority.
P
I don't like anything
aenewman
Because he's got 'an opinion'. And that one is his. And where the fuck do
you get off questioning it? The same way we have to listen to your tired
opinions, you must now listen to his opinion....
Nice to have ya back honey. Ya missed me dinja ya? Could'nt stay away
couldja? It's alright. I understand. I'm like beer. I grow on ya. My own
wife did'nt like me when she first met me. Now she does'nt know what she did
before me.....I'm exactly like beer.
Alfred N
You're a loudmouth baby
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FuryGeo
wanted it sugerwashed. Oi!!
Personally, the more dirt, the better!
GT
Teenage Labotomy
FuryGeo
cause it kinda is.
And, it's an opinion.
GT
Nearwidow
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: Oh, the horror stories I've heard about the bessman book, and how the
Bring on the wig glue and poopy pants! Bring on the fistfights between all
four Rs over Wheatusux!
And don't forget the gold candy coins! I heard Dee Dee used to give blow
jobs for them! Talk about a rrrrrrrrreal rush!
P
Making monsters for my friends
A Dork of Moscow
Come to daddy,
Andoo
------------------
"You think I have a God complex? I AM GOD!"
aenewman
gwar.......But what's your point? Are you just pissed that the queen's
gettin' it from some other guy and you're takin' out your frustration on a
'true' Rock-n-Roll Icon? Stop transposing your anger....it's not healthy.
Alfred N
I'm affected
p.s. Is it me? Or am I the only the only one that needs a daily fix of P
and Lee (Where the fuck has that guy that been?) I'm gettin' real close to
givin' up the ghost on here and turnin' the reigns back over to
Wheatusbeeatch and CJcumguzzler (aka...bambi)....oh yeah.... I almost forgot
Joey(That French Motherfucker, where's he been?.....I dig the fuck outta
him....he needs to spout his 2 francs more often too...he's boss as fuck)
and as for Furrygeo...that fucker ever moves to SoCal....I'm startin' a band
with him that'll dog Dee Dee's ass all over LA until he joins forces with us
to start 'The Ramones Mach II" (On the bass Dee Dee Smalls....He wrote
this....."Jazz Oddysey II") To sum up....this ng is laggin' like Tommy (one
eye goin' one way...the other goin' the other way)Ramone ...circa '79. I'm
drunk as fuck tonight and I AM OUT...
Alfred N
Coke or Pepsi or Canada Dry
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aenewman
and shit but.....other than sniffin' wig glue and co-writing one tune on
'Mondo' what the fuck did he do that tops 'The Golf Caddy'.....
Wigman:**Silence**
I thought so...
Alfred N
Chasin' the night
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FuryGeo
I'm drunker and more fucked up on drugs than normal.
this is the life.
GT
joey90
Manuel R
For more dirt see this--Anyone who was in AA on St. Marks and
went for coffee with Dee Dee afterward in the 80ies to early 90ies
could tell you Dee Dee said the funniest shit.And Dee Dee wasn't doing
nothing when Bessman was writing. Besides it wasn't his book, if he
trusted Bessman he would have been interviewed for it--everybody's got
time for that. An I guess Richie was busy too--hectic schedule
cadying? Did Bessman really believe that, because Richie refused to
talk to Bessman too. As for other Ramones --they got what they wanted.
PURE FLUFF. The ones who didn't give a fuck refused to talk to
Bessman.
Somebody told me if I got a computer and went on chat lines like
this I'd get addicted and it would help me not drink. I don't know
about that but I won't be sniffing no wig glue no more. Final AA
story, (but I don't know if it can help this stupid thread); Montie
asked for a raise in like 89. Johnny Ramone said, 'i can get a kid to
do your job for free.'
-'beat on the brat'
joey90
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Stan Lee
John waters
Lee Hazlewood
H.Selby Jr.
Ron Asheton
Alex Chilton
Jack kirby
Alan vega
W. Burroughs
Bo Diddley
tav Falco
jayne Mansfield
Elvis
John Buscema
Hunter S. Thomson
Chuck D.
Ice Cube
Easy E.
ted Nugent
Rob Tyner
malcom X
tom Di Cilo
Dr Dre
c. Bukowski
John lee Hooker
Johnny Burnette
Divine
Russ Meyer
Johnathan Richman
Link Wray
Johnny Thunders
Vince taylor
stiv bator
Johnny cash
Edith Massey
Maureen Tucker
Mamie van doren
John Cassavettes
the great kat
John Cale
mix master Mike
Lux Interior
Brian gregory
John Coltrane
Frank Sinatra
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hank Williams
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Lee marvin
Peter lore
Myke Tyson
H Gordon Lewis
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Poison Ivy
Boris Karloff
ed Wood
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William shatner
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Robert E. Howard
james ellroy
Roger Corman
Chester Himes
cassius Clay
Kenneth Anger
Edgard Poe
Brian Wilson
John Fogerty
Dean Martin
Pharaoe sanders...and many more...but i'm out of beer...
"she did something no MAN could ever do....KILLED BATMAN!"
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Nearwidow
: I know Johnny Ramone's never impacted the music industry like the guy
I personally venerate GWAR simply because I hear the most hilarious stories
about them and their fans are usually even funnier than Andypants AND Alfie
put together.
For ejemplo:
Sgt Zeno from alt.tasteless regaling me with stories of Dave Brockie giving
a swirlie and an assraping to Henry Rollins. Is that not a touching
tableau? True or wig glue, I say it rules.
I suggest we start a ng called alt.rock.rumors and heat up the bandwidth
with this shit. I'm tired of reality.
P
Drink drink drink drink some more
A Dork of Moscow
>I know Johnny Ramone's never impacted the music industry like the guy from
>gwar.......But what's your point? Are you just pissed that the queen's
>gettin' it from some other guy and you're takin' out your frustration on a
>'true' Rock-n-Roll Icon? Stop transposing your anger....it's not healthy.
>Alfred N
>I'm affected
Fag.
aenewman
Andypants!!! Why you gettin' all upset at me? I'm not the one dorkin' your
ex-girlfriend......as far as you know.
Alfred N
In love with the Queen Diana
"A Dork of Moscow" <andyo...@aol.compost> wrote in message
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> >
> >I know Johnny Ramone's never impacted the music industry like the guy
from
> >gwar.......But what's your point? Are you just pissed that the queen's
> >gettin' it from some other guy and you're takin' out your frustration on
a
> >'true' Rock-n-Roll Icon? Stop transposing your anger....it's not healthy.
> >Alfred N
> >I'm affected
>
>
FuryGeo
GT
Ken Ramsey
> with this shit. I'm tired of reality.
That's an excellent idea! Then i can put up the one i heard about Henry
Rollins and Ian MacKaye being homo lovers from way back when.
A Dork of Moscow
Ooooo, I'm guessing a cyber gang bang? Harhar. No, we are just broken up for
a little bit. Just means I'll have to wear out my porno collection... watching
them until they become unbearably staticky.
A Dork of Moscow
>
>GT
I must say, that's the most clever post you've had in quite some time, Furry
JewO!
Heh...
Driedel driedel driedel, I made you out of clay...
Drediel dreidel driedel, Furry Geo's gay!
A Dork of Moscow
>them until they become unbearably staticky.
I'll beat everyone to the punchline, and add "sticky" to my statement.
FuryGeo
Manuel R
Johnny did us a favor. If Johnny hadn't had stopped Richie from mixing
Halfway to Sanity, we probably would have ended up with a "Halfway to
Spector" album with violins and oboes and shit.
Ronnie Ramone is almost right but Johnny did not stop Ritchie Ramone
from mixing Halfway to Sanity. When Joey got the original mix at the
studio he was completely disgusted with it. Apparently, though there
were no witnesses to this, Dee Dee hated it too. So Joey and Ritchie
snuck into the studio for two weeks at midnight and Ritchie managed to
fix almost all the songs. He missed two or three. When Johnny found
out they were doing this he went there and stopped it. That's when he
said it didn't matter if the album's "good or it sucks." But he kept
the Ritchie Ramone final mixes and the mix we all have on our copies
of Halfway to Sanity is the one Ritchie Ramone did, with Joey's
approval. There are no oboes and no violins. There are also no oboes
or violins on Somebody Put Something In My Drink, Smash You or any
other Ritchie Ramone song. It's been 15 years and we've all finally
started getting some of the truth. Anything Joey Ramone might have
said against Ritchie Ramone was because he lost the strongest support
he had and he was freaked out about it. Badaboonmhower needs to pick a
new scapegoat.
Lee HeadDip
like shitty nirvana are... sucking wheatus dick...aaargh. i guess this
guy stopped being cool somewhere in the seventies. and i didn't mention
that u2 story yet. bonus points for that panty shitter thing, though.
take it frosty
-Lee
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Doby
joey or the ramones get out. why don't you just email each other? why
do you feel it necessary to do this in public? i am sick of it. this
was a nice place till you arrived. we are taking back this board.
In article <3B51F920...@t-online.de>, Lee HeadDip
aenewman
Get 'em Dopy! I'm with ya all the way, brother. In fact I'm gettin' pretty
cheesed off myself here. I might just shoot out some harsh letters to their
ISP's tonight and let 'em know that we don't go for that kinda gunk around
here.......Yeaaaa! I'm gettin' pretty cheesed off!
Alfred N
Me 'n Dopy are pretty cheesed off and we're not gonna take it any more
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> this goes for you too. stop slamming people here. if you don't like
> joey or the ramones get out. why don't you just email each other? why
> do you feel it necessary to do this in public? i am sick of it. this
> was a nice place till you arrived. >
Doby
go play with your pokeman
aenewman
Yeah. You're gonna send me a nasty virus and wipeout my entire computer and
then come to my house and rip my head off and shit down my neck cuz I say
stuff on your newsgroup that you don't like. Fuck you. I'll forget more
about the Ramones than you'll ever know and I ain't going nowhere. In fact,
if you want to fuck with me so bad why don't you meet me face to face. I'll
be at the San Diego Comic-Con all week next week. I'll be wearing a Ramones
T-shirt every day with 'Alfred N' on my name badge so you'll know who I am.
Why don't you rub dog-shit all over your face so I'll recognize you.
> go play with your pokeman<
It's 'Pokemon' dumbfuck...and don't you forget it.
Alfred N
And that's when I knew it was the end of her
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> o it will b more than that.
>
>
Doby
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Lee HeadDip
board? you?......bwa bwa bwa.
i got the pink slip, daddy