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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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Oct 8, 2007, 11:05:53 AM10/8/07
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Hello,

I wonder if anyone cold help me with a next-purchase recommendation?

Having heard *of* Rammstein for a while, I actually decided to
download one of their albums from iTunes ("Reise Reise"), and enjoyed
it very much, so I was wondering if wondered if anyone could advise me
on a good follow-up: more recent, or later? Is the early stuff very
different from what I've already heard, for example?

Thanks for your time...

Steve

Mrs Lumpless

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Oct 8, 2007, 11:43:54 AM10/8/07
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Hi Steve

It really depends on what you like about their music as, in my opinion, all
the albums are uniquely different. If you like the raw power numbers I
would recommend their first album "Herzeleid". "Sehnsucht" and "Mutter" are
my personal favourites in that most of the tracks either have a good beat
and a catchy tune, or are more ballady numbers, and many of the lyrics seem
to cover quite controversial subjects, which appeals to the rebel in me. If
you like the more tuneful softer songs I'd go for Rosenrot (which,
incidentally, is my least favourite).

Having said all that, if I were you I'd listen to as many of the previews
available on iTunes as possible before deciding.

Oh, and welcome, by the way. :-)

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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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On 8 Oct, 16:43, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Lisa, thanks for your comments.

>
> It really depends on what you like about their music as, in my opinion, all
> the albums are uniquely different. If you like the raw power numbers I
> would recommend their first album "Herzeleid". "Sehnsucht" and "Mutter" are
> my personal favourites in that most of the tracks either have a good beat
> and a catchy tune, or are more ballady numbers, and many of the lyrics seem
> to cover quite controversial subjects, which appeals to the rebel in me.

I've had a look at the lyric translations on the "Herzeleid" website
(my German is pretty poor :-( ), and I'd agree some of them are a bit
controversial, but one of the things that appeals to me about them is
that the band seem not to be interested in gratuitous shock value as
such, and some of the lyrics (even in translation) are actually rather
poetic. I'm not completely averse to gratuitous shock value, mind
you. :-P

> If you like the more tuneful softer songs I'd go for Rosenrot (which,
> incidentally, is my least favourite).

Mmm. I suspect I'm going to like the harder stuff. I have pretty
broad musical tastes (well, except for any form of hip-hop/rap/modern
"R&B", which is all rancid dung, as far as I'm concerned), but I do
tend to like a bit of tuneful noise.

>
> Having said all that, if I were you I'd listen to as many of the previews
> available on iTunes as possible before deciding.
>

I'll do that.

Have you seen Rammstein live, by the way? It seems like the live
experience would be pretty intense, and I'm all for as many
pyrotechnics/flame effects as can be got on stage - I used to be
involved with staging such things myself, which was a lot of fun, so
it's always nice for me to see someone go over the top with them :-)

> Oh, and welcome, by the way. :-)
>

Many thanks. This doesn't seem like the most wildly active
newsgroup, though...where are all the Usenet-using Rammstein fans...?

Steve

<snip>


Mrs Lumpless

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Oct 9, 2007, 6:18:10 AM10/9/07
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>
> I've had a look at the lyric translations on the "Herzeleid" website
> (my German is pretty poor :-( ), and I'd agree some of them are a bit
> controversial, but one of the things that appeals to me about them is
> that the band seem not to be interested in gratuitous shock value as
> such, and some of the lyrics (even in translation) are actually rather
> poetic. I'm not completely averse to gratuitous shock value, mind
> you. :-P

Indeed, I have to agree with you there.

> Mmm. I suspect I'm going to like the harder stuff. I have pretty
> broad musical tastes (well, except for any form of hip-hop/rap/modern
> "R&B", which is all rancid dung, as far as I'm concerned), but I do
> tend to like a bit of tuneful noise.

Yay! Another (c)rap hater!

> Have you seen Rammstein live, by the way? It seems like the live
> experience would be pretty intense, and I'm all for as many
> pyrotechnics/flame effects as can be got on stage - I used to be
> involved with staging such things myself, which was a lot of fun, so
> it's always nice for me to see someone go over the top with them :-)

Oh, please don't ask! They performed at the arena close to me in 2005
during their world tour and I didn't get to see them! I think I was working
and couldn't get out of it at the time. In retrospect I should have pulled
a sicky!! lol I can only hope that if/when they do another tour to promote
their new CD they're currently working on, they will come to the UK again.

>> Oh, and welcome, by the way. :-)
>>
>
> Many thanks. This doesn't seem like the most wildly active
> newsgroup, though...where are all the Usenet-using Rammstein fans...?

lol Good question. I discovered this group only a few days ago and it was
full of nothing but spam. I decided to start posting in the hope that it
could be revived. I'm hoping that the lack of activity is due more to
apathy than ignorance of this newsgroup and that there are plenty of
Rammstein fans out their just waiting to discover or rediscover it. Of
course, there are plenty of online communities dedicated to Rammstein such
as on Live Journal, MySpace and Facebook, and there are an awful lot of
people who have never even heard of Usenet. Me, I'm a die hard Usenet user.

I'm trying to be optimistic. :-)

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Lisa

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Oct 9, 2007, 8:01:43 AM10/9/07
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On 9 Oct, 11:18, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm not completely averse to gratuitous shock value, mind
> > you. :-P
>
> Indeed, I have to agree with you there.

My first great musical love was Psychobilly (depending on how old you
are - and apologies if that seems patronising - you may or may not
remember that particular youth tribe), and many of the Psychobilly
bands were pretty gratuitously offensive, which I used to find very
amusing, ...and still do :-). I suppose I'm just a teenager in a
grown-up body ;-).

>
> > Mmm. I suspect I'm going to like the harder stuff. I have pretty
> > broad musical tastes (well, except for any form of hip-hop/rap/modern
> > "R&B", which is all rancid dung, as far as I'm concerned), but I do
> > tend to like a bit of tuneful noise.
>
> Yay! Another (c)rap hater!

It is entirely a closed book to me. I've tried to listen to it and it
just does my head in. Go learn an instrument, you posturing talent-
vacuums! And the whole "it's the poetry of the streets" apologist
thing does my crust in too. Yeah, talking about shooting people 'cos
they didn't show "nuff respeck' ", or talking about women as objects -
yeah, that's *really* poetic! Ever see rappers on award shows?
They look like their pre-school teachers forgot to lock away the
dressing-up box, and those poor fools wanted to dress up like the
adults, but missed by a mile. The whole rap thing is a combination
of cynical music-industry hype, and the regrettable tendency a lot of
folks have to fail to grow out of a liking for nursery rhymes.

Er...rant over. Sorry.

>
> > Have you seen Rammstein live, by the way? It seems like the live
> > experience would be pretty intense, and I'm all for as many
> > pyrotechnics/flame effects as can be got on stage - I used to be
> > involved with staging such things myself, which was a lot of fun, so
> > it's always nice for me to see someone go over the top with them :-)
>
> Oh, please don't ask! They performed at the arena close to me in 2005
> during their world tour and I didn't get to see them! I think I was working
> and couldn't get out of it at the time. In retrospect I should have pulled
> a sicky!! lol I can only hope that if/when they do another tour to promote
> their new CD they're currently working on, they will come to the UK again.
>

Yes, I hear there's no tours this year, but then next year isn't that
far away - fingers crossed. Music like Rammstein's needs to be heard
louder than your stereo, and neighbours, can usually bear. I know
what you mean about being close to a venue and missing the band - so
frustrating. I used to live near Brixton Academy (or "The McDonalds
Happy Meal Academy", or whatever it's called now), and almost every
time a band played that I wanted to see I was working late. Of
course, every time it was a shite band on, I was free... Which arena
was that you live near, may I ask?

> >> Oh, and welcome, by the way. :-)
>
> > Many thanks. This doesn't seem like the most wildly active
> > newsgroup, though...where are all the Usenet-using Rammstein fans...?
>
> lol Good question. I discovered this group only a few days ago and it was
> full of nothing but spam. I decided to start posting in the hope that it
> could be revived. I'm hoping that the lack of activity is due more to
> apathy than ignorance of this newsgroup and that there are plenty of
> Rammstein fans out their just waiting to discover or rediscover it. Of
> course, there are plenty of online communities dedicated to Rammstein such
> as on Live Journal, MySpace and Facebook, and there are an awful lot of
> people who have never even heard of Usenet. Me, I'm a die hard Usenet user.
>

Yeah...me too. Also, I can't get to the networking sites from work,
and after work I usually have better things to do. Actually, I
suppose that *at* work I should have better things to do really, but
never mind. :-)

> I'm trying to be optimistic. :-)

Keep that optimism! We'll do it, Lisa! We'll revive
alt.music.rammstein single- (er...should that be double- ?) handedly!
As the band say: "Uns nie los"!

Man, I am such a loony. :-)

Steve

JD

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Oct 9, 2007, 8:04:02 AM10/9/07
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See if you can find the CD/DVD Volkerball. Rammstein live. Lots of fire!

http://www.rammstein.com/_SimpleBall/Voelkerball/

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Mrs Lumpless

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And of course, Live aus Berlin ... not quite so much fire but a brilliant
performance, nevertheless.

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Mrs Lumpless

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>
> My first great musical love was Psychobilly (depending on how old you
> are - and apologies if that seems patronising - you may or may not
> remember that particular youth tribe), and many of the Psychobilly
> bands were pretty gratuitously offensive, which I used to find very
> amusing, ...and still do :-). I suppose I'm just a teenager in a
> grown-up body ;-).

Yes, I remember them, but wasn't really interested in music until around
1980 when I was 12. Then I was seduced by the early stuff from Adam and the
Ants (the Dirk Wears White Sox era - punky and weird and I loved it!)

<(c)rap>

> It is entirely a closed book to me. I've tried to listen to it and it
> just does my head in. Go learn an instrument, you posturing talent-
> vacuums! And the whole "it's the poetry of the streets" apologist
> thing does my crust in too. Yeah, talking about shooting people 'cos
> they didn't show "nuff respeck' ", or talking about women as objects -
> yeah, that's *really* poetic! Ever see rappers on award shows?
> They look like their pre-school teachers forgot to lock away the
> dressing-up box, and those poor fools wanted to dress up like the
> adults, but missed by a mile. The whole rap thing is a combination
> of cynical music-industry hype, and the regrettable tendency a lot of
> folks have to fail to grow out of a liking for nursery rhymes.
>
> Er...rant over. Sorry.

Thank you!! lol That's the best laugh I've had in a long time!

<missed tours>

> Yes, I hear there's no tours this year, but then next year isn't that
> far away - fingers crossed. Music like Rammstein's needs to be heard
> louder than your stereo, and neighbours, can usually bear. I know
> what you mean about being close to a venue and missing the band - so
> frustrating. I used to live near Brixton Academy (or "The McDonalds
> Happy Meal Academy", or whatever it's called now), and almost every
> time a band played that I wanted to see I was working late. Of
> course, every time it was a shite band on, I was free... Which arena
> was that you live near, may I ask?

Newcastle Metro Radio Arena. It's surprising how many Rammstein fans there
are up here in Geordieland.

<substantial snippage>

> Yeah...me too. Also, I can't get to the networking sites from work,
> and after work I usually have better things to do. Actually, I
> suppose that *at* work I should have better things to do really, but
> never mind. :-)

I suppose I'm lucky in that I have broadband both at work and home. And I'm
the boss so I can do what I like. lol

>> I'm trying to be optimistic. :-)
>
> Keep that optimism! We'll do it, Lisa! We'll revive
> alt.music.rammstein single- (er...should that be double- ?) handedly!
> As the band say: "Uns nie los"!

Thanks for the encouragement!

> Man, I am such a loony. :-)

Yeah, for a minute there I almost thought you were a Geordie. ;-)

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Lisa

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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Oct 9, 2007, 10:12:30 AM10/9/07
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> JD..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ta for the advice, although I have to say I've already (naughty!)
looked at the ripped clips on youtube...ahhhh, fire! I should really
do the decent thing and buy the DVD...

Steve J

Mrs Lumpless

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I think that's forgiveable. I'm a big believer in try before you buy. :-)

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On 9 Oct, 14:07, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> news:1191931303.0...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > My first great musical love was Psychobilly (depending on how old you
> > are - and apologies if that seems patronising - you may or may not
> > remember that particular youth tribe), and many of the Psychobilly
> > bands were pretty gratuitously offensive, which I used to find very
> > amusing, ...and still do :-). I suppose I'm just a teenager in a
> > grown-up body ;-).
>
> Yes, I remember them, but wasn't really interested in music until around
> 1980 when I was 12. Then I was seduced by the early stuff from Adam and the
> Ants (the Dirk Wears White Sox era - punky and weird and I loved it!)

Hey! 12 in 1980 makes you the same age as me :-). Woo! Go '68!

I kind of liked the early work of Mr. Ant and his mates, but at the
time all my friends were either into 2Tone and Madness, or the Clash
and the dying remnants of original punk, so it was off-limits to admit
I liked it. Actually, the real psychobilly "boom" didn't kick in
until around '83-'86. Folks used to some down to London from the far-
flung ends of Britain to see the bands, yea, even as far as Newcastle
(see later in this post for how this was a *good thing* for me).

<snip rant>

>
> > Er...rant over. Sorry.
>
> Thank you!! lol That's the best laugh I've had in a long time!
>

My pleasure.

> <missed tours>

<more snips>

> > Which arena was that you live near, may I ask?
>
> Newcastle Metro Radio Arena. It's surprising how many Rammstein fans there
> are up here in Geordieland.

There is clearly taste among you. Actually, going back to the
Psychobilly thing, in '86 I met and went out with a 23-year old nurse
from Newcastle who used to come down for the Psycho gigs. Yeah,
that's right, 23! And I was, like, 18! She used to wear a rubber
fetish dress! That's how cool *I* was! :-P The relationship lasted,
ooh, a whole month and a half, or, more accurately, six 'apres-gig'
Saturday nights.

>
> <substantial snippage>
>
> > Yeah...me too. Also, I can't get to the networking sites from work,
> > and after work I usually have better things to do. Actually, I
> > suppose that *at* work I should have better things to do really, but
> > never mind. :-)
>
> I suppose I'm lucky in that I have broadband both at work and home. And I'm
> the boss so I can do what I like. lol

You're the *boss*!? How cool is that? What are you the boss of,
exactly?

<nonsense snipped>

> > Man, I am such a loony. :-)
>
> Yeah, for a minute there I almost thought you were a Geordie. ;-)

Well, I have some Geordie relatives. And I used to read Viz a lot...

Steve

Mrs Lumpless

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> Hey! 12 in 1980 makes you the same age as me :-). Woo! Go '68!

Heh!

> I kind of liked the early work of Mr. Ant and his mates, but at the
> time all my friends were either into 2Tone and Madness, or the Clash
> and the dying remnants of original punk, so it was off-limits to admit
> I liked it. Actually, the real psychobilly "boom" didn't kick in
> until around '83-'86. Folks used to some down to London from the far-
> flung ends of Britain to see the bands, yea, even as far as Newcastle
> (see later in this post for how this was a *good thing* for me).

Yes, it was a bit embarrassing to admit, but I thought it was cool to say I
only liked their early stuff. :-/

Actually, by the mid 80s my tastes had changed and I was into Jethro Tull,
Pink Floyd, The Damned and Gary Numan! How weird a combination is that?!

>> > Which arena was that you live near, may I ask?
>>
>> Newcastle Metro Radio Arena. It's surprising how many Rammstein fans
>> there
>> are up here in Geordieland.
>
> There is clearly taste among you. Actually, going back to the
> Psychobilly thing, in '86 I met and went out with a 23-year old nurse
> from Newcastle who used to come down for the Psycho gigs. Yeah,
> that's right, 23! And I was, like, 18! She used to wear a rubber
> fetish dress! That's how cool *I* was! :-P The relationship lasted,
> ooh, a whole month and a half, or, more accurately, six 'apres-gig'
> Saturday nights.

LOL Yeah that would have seemed totally cool. At that time I was having a
miserable time with my boyfriend of 3 years. It didn't last that much
longer. In '89 I met the man who was become my husband, so I kind of missed
out on the whole 'cool' thing!

> You're the *boss*!? How cool is that? What are you the boss of,
> exactly?

We own a curtain/upholstery business, and he only gets to be the boss when I
say he can! ;-)

> Well, I have some Geordie relatives. And I used to read Viz a lot...

And you understood it? I have friends in Cambridge and I have to
'translate' Vis for them. Especially 'Sid the Sexist'. Completely lost on
them.

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On 9 Oct, 16:16, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

>
> Yes, it was a bit embarrassing to admit, but I thought it was cool to say I
> only liked their early stuff. :-/
>
> Actually, by the mid 80s my tastes had changed and I was into Jethro Tull,
> Pink Floyd, The Damned and Gary Numan! How weird a combination is that?!

Not very, I'd say, because I find that people who have open minds to
music (excepting that which we have spoken of already, and shall not
be named) tend not to fall into the trap of rejecting something that
moves them, on the basis that it isn't cool. Hell, I own a Britney
Spears album. So what? It's fun sometimes. I could give up
listening to it. If I wanted to. I could. Really.

I was once in a pub in Hammersmith when a bunch of Numanoids came in,
before they went on to see hiim at the Hammersmith Odeon. They
frightened me, with their pallid skin, black shirts, and narrow ties.
I was forced to drink much beer to calm down.

<snip>

> > There is clearly taste among you. Actually, going back to the
> > Psychobilly thing, in '86 I met and went out with a 23-year old nurse
> > from Newcastle who used to come down for the Psycho gigs. Yeah,
> > that's right, 23! And I was, like, 18! She used to wear a rubber
> > fetish dress! That's how cool *I* was! :-P The relationship lasted,
> > ooh, a whole month and a half, or, more accurately, six 'apres-gig'
> > Saturday nights.
>
> LOL Yeah that would have seemed totally cool. At that time I was having a
> miserable time with my boyfriend of 3 years. It didn't last that much
> longer. In '89 I met the man who was become my husband, so I kind of missed
> out on the whole 'cool' thing!
>

I suspect my older woman was more attracted to the fact that I had a
room in a central London flat-share that she could kip in after the
gigs, than my rakish good looks. :-) Two months after we broke up, I
met my wife to be down the student union bar, moved in with her a week
later, and it's now 20 years... Dunno if we did the cool thing or
not. I think cool is overrated, really.

> > You're the *boss*!? How cool is that? What are you the boss of,
> > exactly?
>
> We own a curtain/upholstery business, and he only gets to be the boss when I
> say he can! ;-)

Oo-er. I'm getting a new sofa tomorrow. <whispers> D..F..S...

>
> > Well, I have some Geordie relatives. And I used to read Viz a lot...
>
> And you understood it? I have friends in Cambridge and I have to
> 'translate' Vis for them. Especially 'Sid the Sexist'. Completely lost on
> them.
>

How is that possible? Doh! Ah, well.

This conversation is going way OT, but then, there's no-one else
here... ;-) Apart from JD. Hi, JD! How's Texas?

Steve

JD

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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:

>snip, snip snip

> This conversation is going way OT, but then, there's no-one else
> here... ;-) Apart from JD. Hi, JD! How's Texas?
>
> Steve
>

Hey Steve..

I live on the edge of the Chihuahuan Desert, in west Texas. That means
it is flat and dry. Surprisingly, there aren't that many of them little
irritating chihuahua dogs around. We do have prairie dogs which are
little rodents that look like a rat mated to a dog that live in burrows
under the ground.

I was a little surprised when you and Lisa both admitted to being 12
years old in 1980. Lets see, that would make you both 39? Thats kind of
old to be a Rammstein fan, isn't it? In 1980 I was 28.

I grew up listening to a variety of music starting back in the early
60's. Loved the British invasion! Moved through the hippie movement. I
saw the Sex Pistols when they played the Longhorn ballroom in Dallas.
That was a trip. The Longhorn ballroom plays both kinds of music,
country and western. They had no idea who the Sex Pistols were. I was
able to check my coat on the way in, I still remember the look on the
coat check person's face as I left. Shock, horror, disbelief.

I never liked disco and after too many loud concerts I developed a bit
of tinnitus so I stopped listening to music that often. I'd listen to
the hits of the 60's and 70's on the car radio.

In search of new music I found post-industrial music and then Rammstein.

What was the question?

Hows west Texas?

Quiet.

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Mrs Lumpless

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> This conversation is going way OT, but then, there's no-one else
> here... ;-) Apart from JD. Hi, JD! How's Texas?

... and Lars in Denmark. Hi Lars! Are you still around?

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Oct 10, 2007, 3:37:28 AM10/10/07
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On 10 Oct, 01:51, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:

Hey JD,

<snip>

>
> I live on the edge of the Chihuahuan Desert, in west Texas. That means
> it is flat and dry. Surprisingly, there aren't that many of them little
> irritating chihuahua dogs around. We do have prairie dogs which are
> little rodents that look like a rat mated to a dog that live in burrows
> under the ground.
>

I've seen 'em on the TV...I'm not keen on rodents. We had a mouse
problem in our loft-space recently.

> I was a little surprised when you and Lisa both admitted to being 12
> years old in 1980. Lets see, that would make you both 39? Thats kind of
> old to be a Rammstein fan, isn't it? In 1980 I was 28.
>

You're never to old to like music. :-) My father-in-law is 60, and I
just played him some Rammstein recently, now he's ordered a couple of
albums off Amazon. Mind you, he's been a metal fan for years so
Rammstein's not a bridge to far, stylistically.

> I grew up listening to a variety of music starting back in the early
> 60's. Loved the British invasion! Moved through the hippie movement. I
> saw the Sex Pistols when they played the Longhorn ballroom in Dallas.
> That was a trip. The Longhorn ballroom plays both kinds of music,
> country and western. They had no idea who the Sex Pistols were. I was
> able to check my coat on the way in, I still remember the look on the
> coat check person's face as I left. Shock, horror, disbelief.
>

I bet. I sometimes wonder, as the latest rap star sings about
"poppin' a cap in someone's ass" (what has the poor mule ever done to
them anyway?), what, exactly, we're folks scared of with the Sex
Pistols? Did you enjoy the gig? I have heard they were pretty
variable in the quality of their live act...

> I never liked disco and after too many loud concerts I developed a bit
> of tinnitus so I stopped listening to music that often.

Yeah, my father-on-law (the metal fan) now has digital hearing-aids on
both ears, and occasionally gets bouts of tinnitus. Hey, I wonder if
there's a connection between that and all the G'n'R he listened
to...? :-)

<snip>

>
> What was the question?
>
> Hows west Texas?
>
> Quiet.
>

Sounds nice to me, but then London isn't exactly a restful place to
be....

Steve


Mrs Lumpless

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<za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 10 Oct, 01:51, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> You're never to old to like music. :-) My father-in-law is 60, and I
> just played him some Rammstein recently, now he's ordered a couple of
> albums off Amazon. Mind you, he's been a metal fan for years so
> Rammstein's not a bridge to far, stylistically.

Yay! What a good for your FiL! My dad is 65 and he quite likes them too,
which is quite surprising really as he's always liked Deep Purple and ELO
and Genesis which to him is a bit more melodic. He hates most of the other
stuff I listen to.

Actually, now that I think about it, my dad probably doesn't like it purely
for the musical interest ... he listens to the lyrics intently ... he
learned to speak German many years ago when he worked over there and has
loved to learn and speak it ever since. Maybe that's where I get my kick
out of translation from?

--
Lisa

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Oct 10, 2007, 5:09:29 AM10/10/07
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On 10 Oct, 08:16, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

Oops! Sorry Lars! And "Hi" from London!

Steve

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On 10 Oct, 08:48, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> news:1192001848.6...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 10 Oct, 01:51, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> > You're never to old to like music. :-) My father-in-law is 60, and I
> > just played him some Rammstein recently, now he's ordered a couple of
> > albums off Amazon. Mind you, he's been a metal fan for years so
> > Rammstein's not a bridge to far, stylistically.
>
> Yay! What a good for your FiL! My dad is 65 and he quite likes them too,
> which is quite surprising really as he's always liked Deep Purple and ELO
> and Genesis which to him is a bit more melodic. He hates most of the other
> stuff I listen to.

Like what?

> Actually, now that I think about it, my dad probably doesn't like it purely
> for the musical interest ... he listens to the lyrics intently ... he
> learned to speak German many years ago when he worked over there and has
> loved to learn and speak it ever since. Maybe that's where I get my kick
> out of translation from?

Ah, I wish I could do more than say "May I see the wine list?" in five
different languages. I'd like to visit Germany again, actually - been
a couple of times, on business, so I didn't get to see much of it,
really. I like Germans, in the main. They seem quite hedonistic, in
contrast to their stereotypical image.

Steve

Mrs Lumpless

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<za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 10 Oct, 08:48, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Yay! What a good for your FiL! My dad is 65 and he quite likes them too,
>> which is quite surprising really as he's always liked Deep Purple and ELO
>> and Genesis which to him is a bit more melodic. He hates most of the
>> other
>> stuff I listen to.
>
> Like what?

Well, my tastes change with my mood, the phase of the moon and whether or
not it's been a vintage year for Australian Shiraz. ;-) Currently I'm
listening to Incubus, White Zombie, After Forever, Disturbed and the
Buzzcocks, to name a few. I find I tend to listen to new bands and also dig
up some of the oldies as well. That list may well have changed by next
week. My two favourite bands that I have never gone off are Incubus and, of
course, Rammstein.

>> Actually, now that I think about it, my dad probably doesn't like it
>> purely
>> for the musical interest ... he listens to the lyrics intently ... he
>> learned to speak German many years ago when he worked over there and has
>> loved to learn and speak it ever since. Maybe that's where I get my kick
>> out of translation from?
>
> Ah, I wish I could do more than say "May I see the wine list?" in five
> different languages. I'd like to visit Germany again, actually - been
> a couple of times, on business, so I didn't get to see much of it,
> really. I like Germans, in the main. They seem quite hedonistic, in
> contrast to their stereotypical image.

I've only met a few German folks in person, and have liked all of them.
Last Sunday my Dad taught me how to curse and insult people in German. He
gets such a kick out of it, he's like a little boy at times! I'm not sure
why other than he likes to shock people (mostly my mother). Bless him.

--
Lisa

JD

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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:
> On 10 Oct, 01:51, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hey JD,
>
> <snip>
>
>> I live on the edge of the Chihuahuan Desert, in west Texas. That means
>> it is flat and dry. Surprisingly, there aren't that many of them little
>> irritating chihuahua dogs around. We do have prairie dogs which are
>> little rodents that look like a rat mated to a dog that live in burrows
>> under the ground.
>>
>
> I've seen 'em on the TV...I'm not keen on rodents. We had a mouse
> problem in our loft-space recently.

Prairie dogs are bigger than rats. They're cute in a rodent way but you
don't want them in your back yard!

>> I was a little surprised when you and Lisa both admitted to being 12
>> years old in 1980. Lets see, that would make you both 39? Thats kind of
>> old to be a Rammstein fan, isn't it? In 1980 I was 28.
>>
>
> You're never to old to like music. :-) My father-in-law is 60, and I
> just played him some Rammstein recently, now he's ordered a couple of
> albums off Amazon. Mind you, he's been a metal fan for years so
> Rammstein's not a bridge to far, stylistically.

I was kidding there. You're 39 and I'm 55 so who's too old for
Rammstein? American humor I guess?

>> I grew up listening to a variety of music starting back in the early
>> 60's. Loved the British invasion! Moved through the hippie movement. I
>> saw the Sex Pistols when they played the Longhorn ballroom in Dallas.
>> That was a trip. The Longhorn ballroom plays both kinds of music,
>> country and western. They had no idea who the Sex Pistols were. I was
>> able to check my coat on the way in, I still remember the look on the
>> coat check person's face as I left. Shock, horror, disbelief.
>>
>
> I bet. I sometimes wonder, as the latest rap star sings about
> "poppin' a cap in someone's ass" (what has the poor mule ever done to
> them anyway?), what, exactly, we're folks scared of with the Sex
> Pistols? Did you enjoy the gig? I have heard they were pretty
> variable in the quality of their live act...

My roommate, Gomez, talked me to going to see the Sex Pistols. A punk
band in a country western club? Could be entertaining. And it was. The
crowd was mostly college students, very few punks. This was January
1978. The bass player didn't play much. He was busy slashing his chest
with a broken beer bottle. I'm not making this up. The singer, drummer
and guitar player carried the show. They did a good job. About half the
crowd left as the Sex Pistols were playing but those of us that remained
got a show similar to a high school dance without teachers and with lots
of beer. It was a punk experience.

>> I never liked disco and after too many loud concerts I developed a bit
>> of tinnitus so I stopped listening to music that often.
>
> Yeah, my father-on-law (the metal fan) now has digital hearing-aids on
> both ears, and occasionally gets bouts of tinnitus. Hey, I wonder if
> there's a connection between that and all the G'n'R he listened
> to...? :-)

Tinnitus can be caused by listening to loud music for an extended period
of time. Gomez and I got front row seats to see Emerson, Lake and
Palmer's Brain Salad Surgery tour but the seats were right in front of
the PA. My ears rang for almost four days after and they still ring a
little bit now. It was a good concert. Just very loud!

> <snip>
>
>> What was the question?
>>
>> Hows west Texas?
>>
>> Quiet.
>>
>
> Sounds nice to me, but then London isn't exactly a restful place to
> be....
>
> Steve
>
>


--
JD..

Borax Man

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If you liked Reise Reise, then you will probably find Rosenrot to have
the most similar style. Both these albums were made at roughly the same
time.


The first two albums, Herzelied and Sehnsucht have quite a different
feel, being harsher, with a staunch sound, simple riffs.

Mutter is a bit of a mix between the first two albums, and the last two

Mrs Lumpless

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On Nov 27, 10:04 pm, Borax Man <rotf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If you liked Reise Reise, then you will probably find Rosenrot to have
> the most similar style.  Both these albums were made at roughly the same
> time.
>
> The first two albums, Herzelied and Sehnsucht have quite a different
> feel, being harsher, with a staunch sound, simple riffs.
>
> Mutter is a bit of a mix between the first two albums, and the last two

I'd be surprised if Steve is actually expecting a reply now, over a
year after his original question. Nice summary, though, and much the
same as I would have said. I await the latest album with
anticipation, which, it seems, will not be released until next Autumn.

--
Lisa

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