THE TONIGHT SHOW: Electioneering
Raymond Pat
Jeff Fischer wrote:
>
> So what is the consensus on their appearance on Leno.
>
> Electioneering was performed pretty well, but there are 8 or 9
> songs from the album that I like better.
>
> Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
> mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me.
> I was a die hard fan 3 and a half years ago. They used to be "my band".
> Oh well, I'm glad that they're doing well, they should.
>
> Jeff
Gee, I was SO surprised when they played Electioneering. Not exactly a
song I was expecting them to play (I thought they were going to play Let
Down. since it's the next single here). I mean I think Electioneering
is a good song, but it's NOT indicative of the album at all. I mean,
it's the only loud song in the album! Well, count that and half of
Paranoid Android and a bit of Airbag. I could picture all the loud,
grungy fans going to buy the CD then returning it the next day because
it's too mellow. Radiohead should have played Let Down. Why? It's the
next single, it's my favorite song off the album, and it fits the mood
of the album. People who like Let Down will most likely like the rest
of the album. So in a way this was diappointing to me.
I the other hand, I think the performance was very good. Jonny
Greenwood was unbelievable...the guitarsmanship really shows. Thom was
being his weird usual self, which is no prob. Good performance, but
just not what I would have expected.
It's interesting that they got quite loud cheers from the audience, and
seemed pretty popular. Considering none of Radiohead's albums ever went
platinum here, it's surprising. Hopefully this signals the widening
appeal of Radiohead. I would love to see OK Computer hit the 1 million
mark here.
Lastly, I chuckled slightly at Jay Leno's comment at the end about OK
Computer. He grabbed the CD and said, "I'm taking this home." Kewl :>
Raymond Pat
Q
Raymond Pat wrote:
> Gee, I was SO surprised when they played Electioneering. Not exactly a
> song I was expecting them to play (I thought they were going to play Let
> Down. since it's the next single here). I mean I think Electioneering
> is a good song, but it's NOT indicative of the album at all. I mean,
> it's the only loud song in the album! Well, count that and half of
> Paranoid Android and a bit of Airbag. I could picture all the loud,
> grungy fans going to buy the CD then returning it the next day because
> it's too mellow. Radiohead should have played Let Down. Why? It's the
> next single, it's my favorite song off the album, and it fits the mood
> of the album. People who like Let Down will most likely like the rest
> of the album. So in a way this was diappointing to me.
Yeah, it's definately not a good indicator of the CD, but it makes total
sense why they would play that one. After seeing the reponse to them at
concert in June, in which the crowd was mainly KROQ fans and the like, I
could see hwo tehy wuold play the loud stuff to an American crowd.
Well, an American crowd that wasn't THEIR crowd. At the KROQ concert,
the people just didn't "get" the music. After Fake Plastic Trees, I
felt like me and my friends were the only ones cheering. And then Thom
yelled something after another mellow song, and the band erupted into a
very loud rendition of The Bends. Typical American reaction to
something slightly cerebral...
--Q
> Raymond Pat
--
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Raymond Pat <rp...@ibm.net> wrote in article <33D9A9...@ibm.net>...
> Jeff Fischer wrote:
> >
> > So what is the consensus on their appearance on Leno.
> >
> > Electioneering was performed pretty well, but there are 8 or 9
> > songs from the album that I like better.
> >
> > Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
> > mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for
me.
> > I was a die hard fan 3 and a half years ago. They used to be "my band".
> > Oh well, I'm glad that they're doing well, they should.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Gee, I was SO surprised when they played Electioneering. Not exactly a
> song I was expecting them to play (I thought they were going to play Let
> Down. since it's the next single here). I mean I think Electioneering
> is a good song, but it's NOT indicative of the album at all. I mean,
> it's the only loud song in the album! Well, count that and half of
> Paranoid Android and a bit of Airbag. I could picture all the loud,
> grungy fans going to buy the CD then returning it the next day because
> it's too mellow. Radiohead should have played Let Down. Why? It's the
> next single, it's my favorite song off the album, and it fits the mood
> of the album. People who like Let Down will most likely like the rest
> of the album. So in a way this was diappointing to me.
>
> I the other hand, I think the performance was very good. Jonny
> Greenwood was unbelievable...the guitarsmanship really shows. Thom was
> being his weird usual self, which is no prob. Good performance, but
> just not what I would have expected.
>
> It's interesting that they got quite loud cheers from the audience, and
> seemed pretty popular. Considering none of Radiohead's albums ever went
> platinum here, it's surprising. Hopefully this signals the widening
> appeal of Radiohead. I would love to see OK Computer hit the 1 million
> mark here.
>
> Lastly, I chuckled slightly at Jay Leno's comment at the end about OK
> Computer. He grabbed the CD and said, "I'm taking this home." Kewl :>
>
> Raymond Pat
>
I liked the preformance. I too didn't think that they would play that
song. I was hoping for Paranoid Android, or Let Down, OK, maybe not Let
Down, Karma Police would have been nice. But hmmmm. Thom seemed to be
enjoying himself on there and oh yeah. What was Johnny wearing on his
wrist? Has he hurt himself?? All in all it was quite good. I wonder what
they'll play on Letterman on August 25???
Live Forever,
~~~Star Child~~~
Justin Hardy
Jeff Fischer <dcv...@freenet.mb.ca> wrote in article
<Pine.SOL.3.91.97072...@winnie.freenet.mb.ca>...
>
> So what is the consensus on their appearance on Leno.
>
> Electioneering was performed pretty well, but there are 8 or 9
> songs from the album that I like better.
>
> Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
> mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me.
> I was a die hard fan 3 and a half years ago. They used to be "my band".
> Oh well, I'm glad that they're doing well, they should.
>
> Jeff
>
I thought it was a good performance. Maybe they picked
Electionneering because it's relatively short (for OK Computer songs,
anyway). Johhny's guitar was turned up pretty loud; I would have liked it
if Ed's bit was more prominent, especially since his jangly part in
Electioneering sounds really, for lack of a better word, cool. But that's
just niggling little stuff. They know a hell of a lot more than I do about
that sort of thing, anyway.
As for Leno, he's paid to act like he likes everything about
everybody; it's just business. So his opinion is of no consequence, really.
Justin
Kathryn Jette
>
> I liked the preformance. I too didn't think that they would play that
> song. I was hoping for Paranoid Android, or Let Down, OK, maybe not Let
> Down, Karma Police would have been nice. But hmmmm. Thom seemed to be
> enjoying himself on there and oh yeah. What was Johnny wearing on his
> wrist? Has he hurt himself?? All in all it was quite good. I wonder what
> they'll play on Letterman on August 25???
I read in an article that Johnny has to wear an arm brace because he was
developing some kind of repetitory stress disorder from playing the guitar
too fast. If you check any of their videos, you'll see he's always
wearing it.
--
Kathryn L. Jette
The Colls
Johnny was even wearing his brace in the "stop whispering" video, which was the first one they ever released.
In article <5rfu2j$l...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, bv...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Cathy Fan) says:
>
>
>> I liked the preformance. I too didn't think that they would play that
>> song. I was hoping for Paranoid Android, or Let Down, OK, maybe not Let
>> Down, Karma Police would have been nice. But hmmmm. Thom seemed to be
>> enjoying himself on there and oh yeah. What was Johnny wearing on his
>> wrist? Has he hurt himself?? All in all it was quite good. I wonder what
>> they'll play on Letterman on August 25???
>
>Jonny indeed wears it for repetitive strain injury (RSI); he's been
>wearing it for quite a while now. He can sometimes cut his fingers while
>trashing away too. As for Let Down, the timing in that is quite different,
>so they're working on doing a polished version to do live. However, when
>they did play it at the Alanis gigs, it sounded quite good...
>
>Ta,
>--Cathy
>--
> bv...@freenet.carleton.ca - cf...@storm.ca - http://www.storm.ca/~cfan
> do do do x 4.3 repeating decimal = a blurry supa shoppa chorus
> ...cos they all drive killer cars...
> **TF**
The Colls
ARE THEY PLAYING LETTERMAN ON AUGUST 25?!?!?!?! YAY!!!!!
pook
i thought letterman was on the 29th of august.
Raymond Pat
Justin Hardy wrote:
> I thought it was a good performance. Maybe they picked
> Electionneering because it's relatively short (for OK Computer songs,
> anyway). Johhny's guitar was turned up pretty loud; I would have liked it
> if Ed's bit was more prominent, especially since his jangly part in
> Electioneering sounds really, for lack of a better word, cool. But that's
> just niggling little stuff. They know a hell of a lot more than I do about
> that sort of thing, anyway.
> As for Leno, he's paid to act like he likes everything about
> everybody; it's just business. So his opinion is of no consequence, really.
>
>
> Justin
Hmmm....if that was true, then No Surprises could have easily been
picked too...it's not even 4 minutes!
But anyway, I now know why they played Electioneering at Jay Leno's.
During last night's concert, Thom talked about their appearance on the
Tonight Show before they were going to play Elecitoneering. He said
that they played Electioneering because it was Friday, and that they had
to please the Friday night crowd.
Anyway, see my review of the SF show!
Raymond Pat
Jeff Fischer
On 26 Jul 1997, Q wrote:
> Jeff Fischer wrote:
> =20
> > Boy is Radiohead almost getting
> > mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me=
.
> > I was a die hard fan 3 and a half years ago. They used to be "my band".
> > Oh well, I'm glad that they're doing well, they should.
> >=20
> > Jeff
>=20
> Uncomfortably popular? What difference does it make if two people or
> two million people listen to them? If the music is the same, and it
> still means something, let the world listen for all I care. I mean, as
> long as it doesn't get to a point where "what sells" is affecting their
> output, let them sell as many albums and recruit as many fans as they
> like. It's a fact of life that all great bands will eventually find a a
> sizeable following. Whether or not the size remains constant determines
> if it's a fad. =20
> But your last line saved you from a blast from me. :) You're right,
> they should do well. THey deserve it with a piece like OK....
=09Yeah, I must admit that you got me there. But you must agree with=20
me that even though the actual music is the same, that the augmented=20
feeling that one gets from the music DOES change as a band grows. I was a=
=20
die-hard fan, and now I see people who really like the music, but who=20
fail to appreciate it fully as I have.
=09It is a great feeling to be EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED to a band that=20
many people do not follow.
=09I used to be just like every Radiohead fan. But now there are such
a variety of people who make up the fan base. Again, it was just cool when
they were "my band". But yet again, I am really happy that they're getting
the recogniton now. I'm an ins=E0piring musician as well and so I can=20
definitely see the other side of this. I'm just saying that there are=20
both good and bad things about it.
Jeff
Jeff Fischer
On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Raymond Pat wrote:
> Jeff Fischer wrote:
> >
> > So what is the consensus on their appearance on Leno.
> >
> > Electioneering was performed pretty well, but there are 8 or 9
> > songs from the album that I like better.
> >
> > Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
> > mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me.
> > I was a die hard fan 3 and a half years ago. They used to be "my band".
> > Oh well, I'm glad that they're doing well, they should.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Gee, I was SO surprised when they played Electioneering. Not exactly a
> song I was expecting them to play (I thought they were going to play Let
> Down. since it's the next single here). I mean I think Electioneering
> is a good song, but it's NOT indicative of the album at all. I mean,
> it's the only loud song in the album! Well, count that and half of
> Paranoid Android and a bit of Airbag. I could picture all the loud,
> grungy fans going to buy the CD then returning it the next day because
> it's too mellow. Radiohead should have played Let Down. Why? It's the
> next single, it's my favorite song off the album, and it fits the mood
> of the album. People who like Let Down will most likely like the rest
> of the album. So in a way this was diappointing to me.
>
> I the other hand, I think the performance was very good. Jonny
> Greenwood was unbelievable...the guitarsmanship really shows. Thom was
> being his weird usual self, which is no prob. Good performance, but
> just not what I would have expected.
>
> It's interesting that they got quite loud cheers from the audience, and
> seemed pretty popular. Considering none of Radiohead's albums ever went
> platinum here, it's surprising. Hopefully this signals the widening
> appeal of Radiohead. I would love to see OK Computer hit the 1 million
> mark here.
>
> Lastly, I chuckled slightly at Jay Leno's comment at the end about OK
> Computer. He grabbed the CD and said, "I'm taking this home." Kewl :>
>
Have they just released Lucky as a single. My brother said he
just saw the video.
Anyways, I agree that Let Down would have been a good song to
play. Although it isn't my favorite song on the album (Exit Music is
for sure), at least it has more pep to it : better live performance.
Gotta go,
Jeff
Jason Fortun
>> Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
>> mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me.
>
It seems to me that disliking a band because they are popular is just
as bad as liking them because they are popular. Either way you're
making your judgment based not on the music but on whether it's cool
or hip to like it.
JMF
Unknown
Yay! A net gain of no new fans!
Raymond Pat <rp...@ibm.net> wrote:
>Jeff Fischer wrote:
>>
>> So what is the consensus on their appearance on Leno.
>>
>> Electioneering was performed pretty well, but there are 8 or 9
>> songs from the album that I like better.
>>
>> Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
>> mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me.
>Raymond Pat
The Colls
Finally. Someone who can properly describe Radiohead's success. You're right about their music being too "intelligent" to be mainstream. It is. It's too genuine and emotional to be mainstream. And that's what makes us love 'em.
neasa
In article <01bc99fb$776e7560$62ae87d0@default>, "Sparky" <spa...@wwd.net> says:
>
>> Looks like Leno liked it. Boy is Radiohead almost getting
>> mainstream or what? They're getting almost uncomfortably popular for me.
>
>You call that performance mainstream??? I wanna come live wherever
>you live if that's the mainstream there. No, Dave Matthews has become
>mainstream, but Radiohead??? Come on, when Syd Barrett Pink Floyd
>starts getting shown on MTV, then we'll worry about Radiohead following,
>but guys, let's face it, they're whacked out. They'll never be mainstream
>if they keep playing stuff like Electioneering on Leno. It was cool, but
>their music, like other, dare I say, progressive styles of music, is much
>too intelligent for the average music listener. Therefore, do not worry
>about them becoming mainstream, their electric bills are getting paid just
>fine, so I don't think we need to worry. Of course, five months from now
>we might be paying a different piper at the gates, but till then...
>
>Shine On,
>Garrett
Jeff Fischer
If you take a close look, they are quickly becoming mainstream.
I'm not saying that they've got a "Universal Pop" kind of sound. What I'm
saying is that they're songs are frequently played on all the FM
stations, and in bars etc. Generally how I am measuring mainstream is by
looking at the fan base. There is a typical die hard Radiohead fan (kind
of like me) BUT THERE IS NO TYPICAL RADIOHEAD FAN.
They exploded as Britain's Loudest Sons in 1993, while
contrasting the growing Oasis and Blur sound. Soon they were introduced
as a strictly Alternative band in North America. They appealed mostly to
men. Now they've crossed over to a Pop definition in some aspects and
appeal to the mass market.
Their sound is too "emotional" to be mainstream? What! Sure they
are unique in their style, but emotion can never block being mainstream.
U2 DOES PLAY EMOTIONAL MUSIC (maybe not this newest album).
Fisch