Shirley Manson has an opinion....
Hetman
I can't believe that followmearound.com would post a link to Shirley
Manson's web diary that is slagging Radiohead!!
WTF does Shirley Manson think she is? What has she ever done to command the
respect of the CD buying public and critics at the same time?
She even reposted a rant trashing Kid A from Rolling Stone.
Shirley, Radiohead is the best band in the world and you are not. This will
never change.
--
Hetman
...the beatings will continue until morale improves.
orlando
>
> ....and so do I.
>
> I can't believe that followmearound.com would post a link to Shirley
> Manson's web diary that is slagging Radiohead!!
...
>
> WTF does Shirley Manson think she is? What has she ever done to command the
> respect of the CD buying public and critics at the same time?
>
...
> She even reposted a rant trashing Kid A from Rolling Stone.
>
...
> Shirley, Radiohead is the best band in the world and you are not. This will
> never change.
>
go away troll.
orlando
np: sigur ros -- (untitled)
Jean Ra
What is it? Lemme guess: That you can't handle someone else's?
>I can't believe that followmearound.com would post a link to Shirley
>Manson's web diary that is slagging Radiohead!!
[jaw drops]
>WTF does Shirley Manson think she is? What has she ever done to command the
>respect of the CD buying public and critics at the same time?
>
>She even reposted a rant trashing Kid A from Rolling Stone.
[gasps]
>Shirley, Radiohead is the best band in the world and you are not. This will
>never change.
Oh, fuck off already! So someone ripped on your beloved band; get over
it. "The most attractive quality in a person is humility." In regards
to showmanship, image, message, et cetera, Radiohead are lacking in too
many in departments to be the "Best Band in the World" these days. But
they're up there.
"Holy Radiohead, who dares to speak out against them?"
- Shirley Manson
Craig
least one album that even compares to Radiohead's previous three before
going off like that . . . obviously jealous of their success.
stephanie rovera
it... is it cuz she's trying to insite indignation from the ng?
orlando wrote:
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http://www.self-absorbed.org
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Pronunciation: (self'ab-sôrbd', -zôrbd', self"-)
-adj. preoccupied with one's thoughts, interests, etc.
Hetman
"Jean Ra" <jea...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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That's nice.
Who is talking about image, and showmanship???? What do you mean? When
did anyone establish the criteria for the Best Band in the World?
She has an opinion and so do I.
She thinks that KA sux and I think she sux.
You guys take things way too seriously around here.
Jean Ra
She's Scottish.
>I think she and her crap band had better make at least one album that
>even compares to Radiohead's previous three before going off like that .
>. . obviously jealous of their success.
So because her band isn't at good as Radiohead in your opinion, Shirly
Manson doesn't have a say in anything? Some fans take things way too
seriously.
orlando
>
> i haven't used usenet in a few years... but why is this one a troll? i dont get
> it... is it cuz she's trying to insite indignation from the ng?
>
because he/she/it is whining about somebody not liking radiohead.
and reply bottom, please.
orlando
Tim Byron.
>Stupid Irish mutt bitch. I think she and her crap band had better make at
>least one album that even compares to Radiohead's previous three before
>going off like that . . . obviously jealous of their success.
a) Theoretically, you should be calling her a Stupid Scottish mutt bitch.
b) I don't think she's so much jealous as just another fan who wanted Kid A
to be more like OK Computer. I seem to recall reading that Garbage are huge
Radiohead fans.
tim.
Me: "He who buys shoes should first measure his feet" - Confucious
Joel Chapman: All that proves is that you are likely to fall asleep
on a park bench, wake up to find your shoes and left sock missing,
with some old Chinese guy licking your foot.
http://members.xoom.com/birron/
Grimfarrow
Two peas in a pod. Off in the pot you go!
Shirley doesn't like Kid A. And? So? How
does this affect your life?
It doesn't.
Move on.
Grimfarrow
np: Chanel - Faye Wong
Craig
both got red hair and English accents . . .
Anyway, the key word is "used" to be a fan . . . and now they're not? Now
that's true faith and admiration!
Too bad I'm no longer a Garbage fan, since basically that's all their music
is . . . garbage . . . talk about not trying to hide anything from the
consumer.
Craig
alt.letstalkabouteverybandonearthbut.radiohead? I'm a Radiohead fan. If
your not then away with thee, spawn of satan.
Craig
you bright, intelligent people come here to bash Radiohead. Goddamn them
for being them.
Craig
After reading her diary I believe that she sux . . . her bass player's dick,
that is . . .
And in her moment of heat and passion she lost all reason and
accountability. Typical cocaine addict. Or was it crank . . . probably
homemade shite.
Das Monkey
Craig wrote:
if thom yorke jumped off a bridge, would you?
if God said he didn't like Kid A would you throw stones at Jesus?
who the hell cares what she thinks about the album. garbage are still great. she
didn't slag off radiohead, just the album. she is a huge radiohead fan.
now go away.
Yours,
DasMonkey
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Almost 50% of comments are intended for constructive purposes.
Craig
Depends on what's down there below the bridge. If it's a heap of money,
yes. If it's water, maybe. If it's concrete, no.
> if God said he didn't like Kid A would you throw stones at Jesus?
No. God liked to kill humans, Jesus liked to save them, so I doubt Jesus
would've disliked Kid A.
> who the hell cares what she thinks about the album.
Hey, you're right. Who cares? In fact, who cares about Radiohead? Or this
group? Or life? What's the use in anything? What good is this newsgroup?
Oh, it's for discussion . . . exactly what I was doing, huh.
garbage are still great. she
> didn't slag off radiohead, just the album. she is a huge radiohead fan.
Radiohead fan . . . that's funny. I read the whole damn thing, sounded to
me like she views Thom Yorke as a condescending asshole. But that's too big
a concept for you to grasp, apparently. You think a band and its music are
two separate entities. Well, they're not. The band's music are their
thoughts. You cannot separate the two, I don't care how you try to get
around it. If you think a band's music is great but they themselves are
steaming piles of turds, you will be biased against their music.
> now go away.
>
Fuck you, hoser.
Das Monkey
Craig wrote:
> Radiohead fan . . . that's funny. I read the whole damn thing, sounded to
> me like she views Thom Yorke as a condescending asshole. But that's too big
> a concept for you to grasp, apparently. You think a band and its music are
> two separate entities. Well, they're not. The band's music are their
> thoughts. You cannot separate the two, I don't care how you try to get
> around it. If you think a band's music is great but they themselves are
> steaming piles of turds, you will be biased against their music.
listen, cock,
she has been quoted as saying that she loves ok computer, and it was one of her
favourite albums of all time.
just because she doesn't like kid a doesn't mean she doesn't like radiohead. i
like many bands but most of them have a crap album or two.
now, i know you're trying to sound very big and cool, but i think it's fine that
she doesn't like the album. so what? she's allowed.
you made a comment about this being discussion, and that my responding was
uncalled for. well that's the biggest contradiction i've ever heard.
you don't know what you're on about, so stop trying.
you're only here for bad, go help an old lady cross a street.
Jean Ra
>
>Who is talking about image, and showmanship???? What do you mean? When
>did anyone establish the criteria for the Best Band in the World?
Never. But Radiohead won't be the best in my mind if they keep pouting
onstage in their gas station attendant wardrobe. It's boring. I go to
concerts to be dazzled by the band. It's the only kind of performance
art I believe in. And, for me, the music is secondary. It if sounds
great, that's a plus. But what the band does, how they react to the
music, and how they get the crowd going is something I enjoy the most.
And Thom Yorke's little monkey dance is nice but doesn't necessarily cut
it.
>She has an opinion and so do I.
>
>She thinks that KA sux and I think she sux.
What are you basing this opinion on? What is wrong with Shirley Manson
that makes her "suck" in your book? Spell it out, asshole.
>You guys take things way too seriously around here.
Hey, I'm not the one who wrote "I can't believe that followmearound.com
would post a link to Shirley Manson's web diary that is slagging
Radiohead!" I mean, imagine how much of a loser that guy must be.
"Like, oh my god, someone insulted my band!"
Jean Ra
or something.) Could someone translate this for me?
KIDA
Not that it's relevant, but I think she's dead sexy. :D
KIDA
Chris
"Never. But Radiohead won't be the best in my mind if they keep pouting
onstage in their gas station attendant wardrobe. It's boring. I go
I believe in. And, for me, the music is secondary. It if sounds
great, that's a plus. But what the band does, how they react to the music,
and how they get the crowd going is something I enjoy the most. And Thom
Yorke's little monkey dance is nice but doesn't necessarily cut
it."
hmmmmmm... so the music is secondary to you, and the show they put on is
most important?
i think you may be wasting your time with radiohead then - you should go
check out some backstreet boys and britney spears concerts... i've heard
they put on some great shows!
Junga
Craig <NOS...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:svne37j...@corp.supernews.com...
Oh please, like Radiohead wouldn't have a healthy diet of illicit drugs
themselves. Listen to them for Christ sake!!! They are off their nut.
Tim Byron.
>Oh right, Scottish . . . Irish . . . what the fuck's the difference, they
>both got red hair and English accents . . .
Oh, if any statement on this newsgroup has ever been more of a troll...
>Anyway, the key word is "used" to be a fan . . . and now they're not? Now
>that's true faith and admiration!
There are two colours in my head. Everything isn't black and white, you
know.
tim.
np - Dollars And Cents (live in Berlin) - Radiohead
Paul Hopwood
>Oh right, Scottish . . . Irish . . . what the fuck's the difference, they
>both got red hair and English accents . . .
Cool... lesson one; how to offend the whole UK in one sentence. And
if you're going to try and be offensive try to avoid doing it from an
point of (obvious!) ignorance - just makes you look a complete
fuckwit.
--
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Paul Hopwood
>I can't believe that followmearound.com would post a link to Shirley
>Manson's web diary that is slagging Radiohead!!
Why on earth not? I think it's great followmearound have the balls to
report both points of views. Wouldn't harm us to spend more time
being subjective and less time patting Thom on the back when any other
person acting how he has been of late is more likely to be regarded a
complete arsehole than branded a genius.
>WTF does Shirley Manson think she is? What has she ever done to command the
>respect of the CD buying public and critics at the same time?
Just someone with an opinion; one she has a right to. And it's hardy
as if she's taken out adverts in the world press saying "I HATE KID A"
for the world to see. Her online diary which is more likely to be
read by fans of Garbage than fans of Radiohead. She's hardly cramming
her opinion down the throats of people who don't wish to hear it.
I also happen to not only see her point, but also agree to a certain
degree. Thom himself joked the album should be called "Emperors New
Clothes". While opinions on the album are going to be divided the
press seem unable to just come out and say "it's shite" when evidently
they don't know what to make of it, just because it has "Radiohead"
printed on the cover. I doubt they'd be playing it so safe if it had
been put out by a relatively unknown or unpopular band.
>She even reposted a rant trashing Kid A from Rolling Stone.
It was actually rather humourous I thought. And someone in here even
posted a link to it recently - how dare they!?!?
>Shirley, Radiohead is the best band in the world and you are not. This will
>never change.
Which is also an opinion. And one you have right too. But what's the
difference between you posting "Radiohead is the best band in the
world and you are not" in a newsgroup and her saying she doesn't like
Kid A in her online diary?
Periodic
Jean Ra wrote:
> I have no clue what this guy just said. (I think it might be Brit talk
> or something.) Could someone translate this for me?
>
Certainly. Roughly translated, it comes out something like this:
"Help! I've got my head jammed into my ass and I can't get it out! Someone,
quick, help me! Aaarrrrrrghh!"
-Periodic.
Hetman
> >That's nice.
> >
> >Who is talking about image, and showmanship???? What do you mean? When
> >did anyone establish the criteria for the Best Band in the World?
>
> Never. But Radiohead won't be the best in my mind if they keep pouting
> onstage in their gas station attendant wardrobe. It's boring. I go to
> concerts to be dazzled by the band.
You've completely explained yourself there mate......
>It's the only kind of performance
> art I believe in. And, for me, the music is secondary. It if sounds
> great, that's a plus. But what the band does, how they react to the
> music, and how they get the crowd going is something I enjoy the most.
> And Thom Yorke's little monkey dance is nice but doesn't necessarily cut
> it.
Obviously you don't really like Radiohead and I am wasting my time replying
to your insight to "fashion rock."
>
> >She has an opinion and so do I.
> >
> >She thinks that KA sux and I think she sux.
>
> What are you basing this opinion on? What is wrong with Shirley Manson
> that makes her "suck" in your book? Spell it out, asshole.
Geez I really hit a chord there didn't I? If I HAVE to listen to people's
thoughts about a band which I like then I would rather hear what the
"average slob" CD purchaser would think about Radiohead's music. I could
care less for a washed up relic singer of a mediocre band from the 90s. One
thing I can't stand are people who have had their 00:15 of fame and now
think that we would be even remotely interested in their opinion!
Now if you like Garbage, and judging by the way to you speak to people, then
I'm sorry if my opinion differs from yours.
>
> >You guys take things way too seriously around here.
>
> Hey, I'm not the one who wrote "I can't believe that followmearound.com
> would post a link to Shirley Manson's web diary that is slagging
> Radiohead!" I mean, imagine how much of a loser that guy must be.
> "Like, oh my god, someone insulted my band!"
Is it really news worthy? What is the point of going to the best news
resource on the web and discovering that we need to know what Shirley Manson
thinks of KID A!
Hetman
"Paul Hopwood" <pa...@hopwood.org.uk> wrote in message
news:ivfovsksiejerpjpj...@4ax.com...
> "Hetman" <het...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I can't believe that followmearound.com would post a link to Shirley
> >Manson's web diary that is slagging Radiohead!!
>
> Why on earth not? I think it's great followmearound have the balls to
> report both points of views. Wouldn't harm us to spend more time
> being subjective and less time patting Thom on the back when any other
> person acting how he has been of late is more likely to be regarded a
> complete arsehole than branded a genius.
I agree with you on that.
>
> >WTF does Shirley Manson think she is? What has she ever done to command
the
> >respect of the CD buying public and critics at the same time?
>
> Just someone with an opinion; one she has a right to. And it's hardy
> as if she's taken out adverts in the world press saying "I HATE KID A"
> for the world to see. Her online diary which is more likely to be
> read by fans of Garbage than fans of Radiohead. She's hardly cramming
> her opinion down the throats of people who don't wish to hear it.
Yeah, you might be right there too.
>
> I also happen to not only see her point, but also agree to a certain
> degree. Thom himself joked the album should be called "Emperors New
> Clothes". While opinions on the album are going to be divided the
> press seem unable to just come out and say "it's shite" when evidently
> they don't know what to make of it, just because it has "Radiohead"
> printed on the cover. I doubt they'd be playing it so safe if it had
> been put out by a relatively unknown or unpopular band.
>
> >She even reposted a rant trashing Kid A from Rolling Stone.
>
> It was actually rather humourous I thought. And someone in here even
> posted a link to it recently - how dare they!?!?
>
> >Shirley, Radiohead is the best band in the world and you are not. This
will
> >never change.
>
> Which is also an opinion. And one you have right too. But what's the
> difference between you posting "Radiohead is the best band in the
> world and you are not" in a newsgroup and her saying she doesn't like
> Kid A in her online diary?
I suppose that I have issues with musicians that I have no musical respect
for stating their opinion on other types of music. If she didn't have a
famous name then we would just say, "OK, you've got an opinion too."
Wow, you are like the only person that doesn't freak out around here.
BTW, you never know who you might be speaking to.
Cheers
Craig
myself more clear. No, no, she wasn't cracking on Radiohead . . . she was
cracking on Thom. Understand now? Thom's solo album? Our Thom? What's
all this shit? Why does everybody think Thom's this awful human being?
Without Thom, where would Radiohead be? Probably On a Friday.
stephanie rovera
now justified
Craig wrote:
--
peacel
> Never. But Radiohead won't be the best in my mind if they keep
> pouting onstage in their gas station attendant wardrobe.
Pouting? I don't see it, unless you consider a quiet, brooding song
like Exit Music to be one long pout session.
Also, why does it matter if the band go on stage in T-shirts instead
of tuxedos and glitter pants (or whatever it is you're looking for
here, I can't really tell)?
> It's boring. I go to
> concerts to be dazzled by the band. It's the only kind of
> performance art I believe in. And, for me, the music is secondary.
"The music is secondary"? Wow. I think if you're going to see
Radiohead live expecting some kind of flashy performance with a lot of
dancing and choreography and onstage banter and neon outfits as opposed
to, y'know, actual *music*, then you're destined to be disappointed in
everything they do. They're not trying to be a Broadway musical,
they're trying to be a *band*.
> And Thom Yorke's little monkey dance is nice but doesn't necessarily
> cut it.
I love the monkey dance. More freaky, off-putting monkey dancing
please, Thom. Thank you.
--
peacel
pea...@sk.sympatico.ca
"What we have here is a company [TI] with unlimited resources that
wants to take film away from us and replace it with their system.
And the film community is so technically uninterested and illiterate
that there is no outcry."
-Roger Ebert on digital projection
Jean Ra
>Radiohead live expecting some kind of flashy performance with a lot of
>dancing and choreography and onstage banter and neon outfits as opposed
>to, y'know, actual *music*, then you're destined to be disappointed in
>everything they do. They're not trying to be a Broadway musical,
>they're trying to be a *band*.
I dunno ... What with them being so bitter and all, maybe they could
trash the stage once or twice? That would be cool.
Anyway, back in the days of Mozart and Beethoven, music was the primary
source of entertainment during a live concert; this was the case because
fans weren't able to take that music home with them -- they had to hire
the performer. But with the invention of 8 tracks all the way to MP3s,
we're able to now. We're able to have a concert in the comfort of our
own living room. And that's why I see live concerts and performance art
as a dying breed, if and only if music that could be listened to at home
with almost the same pace and structure is the main theme. Put it this
way, we could make like Josh Wink's "Black Bomb" and put a goddamn
stereo onstage if all people go to the shows for is the music.
I think with live entertainment to continue to exist, there needs to be
something more. And I don't know the exact answer, just that bands like
Nine Inch Nails, White Zombie, Soul Coughing, Beck and Marilyn Manson
have wowed me live because of their stage routine.
I probably won't be disappointed if and when I see Radiohead live
because I'm sure the energy of the crowd alone will be enough art and
entertainment for me. But they're far from the best band in the world
when considering performance. And that's what frustrates me the most
about trying to see them live: they're demigods in Britain and America.
indigolem
>themselves. Listen to them for Christ sake!!! They are off their nut.
I'm weird without drugs. You think it's impossible? It's pure talent.
---
Indigolem ||[ http://octoberzone.port5.com/ ]||
Paul Hopwood
>I suppose that I have issues with musicians that I have no musical respect
>for stating their opinion on other types of music. If she didn't have a
>famous name then we would just say, "OK, you've got an opinion too."
Absolutely. Just because she happens to be famous doesn't mean her
opinion carries any more weight, or less, than anyone else. Everyone
has the right to an opinion and the freedom to express it, regardless
of if you're Thom Yorke, Shirley Manson or Mrs Smith who cleans the
public toilets and thinks Cliff Richard is god! ;-)
Generally, most people agree with that in principal but all too often
apply it as "freedom to agree"; where you can be as outspoken in your
agreement of something but have absolutely no right to express
disagreement. :)
Most newsgroups, including this one, tend to lean heavily towards the
latter. If you join the group and sing Thom's praises and list all
the reasons why Radiohead are the best group in the world you're fine
- dare to be critical and you're a troll, stirring up trouble or just
out and out *wrong*.
I'm one of their biggest fans - I've travelled across Europe to see
them (twice), collected more of their material (along with the
associate credit card bills!) than the band themselves probably even
knows exist and invested countless hours maintaining the FAQ and
participating in this group and others. Doesn't mean I have to be
blind to the fact Thom can sometimes be a bit of an arse and be forced
to like everything they've done or doing.
>Wow, you are like the only person that doesn't freak out around here.
At least, the only person being vocal about not freaking out. :) The
hundreds of lurkers who don't post at all are probably less guilty of
freaking out than anyone. :)
>BTW, you never know who you might be speaking to.
Isn't that the beauty of the whole thing?
For me it doesn't make any difference. If I were to meet anyone here,
or even the great Thomness himself, in the street and, assuming it's
one of the rare occasions he's feeling amenable enough not to just to
tell me to "f*ck off", I'd have no problem saying all the same things.
However, some people need the anonymity to express themselves freely
and this medium provide that; I'm cool with that.
DJoz.
> both got red hair and English accents . .
Sweet Xmas, a troll and a half! All that and a bag of chips...heh....
-Oz
DJoz.
> public toilets and thinks Cliff Richard is god! ;-)
HOI!!! Now that's hell...poor, poor dear...
-Oz
indigolem
>> both got red hair and English accents . .
>
>Sweet Xmas, a troll and a half! All that and a bag of chips...heh....
To be a troll, you have to be on topic. He was talking about
Shirley Manson anyway. Troll.
---
Indigolem ||[ http://octoberzone.port5.com/ ]||
good weather for airstrikes
>>Sweet Xmas, a troll and a half! All that and a bag of chips...heh....
>
>To be a troll, you have to be on topic. He was talking about
>Shirley Manson anyway. Troll.
>
>---
no thats not true at all..you just gotta say something thats gonna incite angry
responses..and calling irish folk and scottish folk the same ...well..that will
do it.
MaTT
"be prepared for anything at any time from anybody, don't take no shit, always
stand your ground. people wanna come up to me and run their mouth - guess what?
i'll throw them through the fucking window...i won't think a thing of it."
-----GYBE-----
Mikarr785
>>>garbage are still great. she
>> didn't slag off radiohead, just the album. she is a huge radiohead fan.<<<
>Radiohead fan . . . that's funny. I read the whole damn thing, sounded to
>me like she views Thom Yorke as a condescending asshole. But that's too big
>a concept for you to grasp, apparently. You think a band and its music are
>two separate entities. Well, they're not. The band's music are their
>thoughts. You cannot separate the two, I don't care how you try to get
>around it. If you think a band's music is great but they themselves are
>steaming piles of turds, you will be biased against their music.
>
This is a bit too simplistic a statement for my tastes -- a bit too
black-and-white. I don't doubt that there are people out there who find Thom
Yorke a "condescending asshole" but nonetheless respond to his voice, lyrics,
both. It is entirely possible to revere a band but not love every aural
offering at the same level. Specifically in regard to the Shirley Manson --
she said that she missed some of Radiohead's strengths on the new record --
specifically, Thom's voice and their general sense of melody. Fair enough; I
don't think she's alone there. On the other hand, there might be something to
be said for a group willing to take chances and jumble up the formula a bit.
Don't like the new formula? Well, go back and listen to the Bends and OK,
then. Or wait for the next one. Or the one after that. Or find yourself a
new fucking band, for Christ's sake. Just as everybody has the right to
express "disappointment" in Radiohead's new "direction," everybody also has the
right to defend them to core ("they can do no wrong"). The truth, for most,
may be somewhere in between. Listen to what you like; ignore what you don't.
I know that I can't get enough of Everything in Its Right Place, How to
Disappear Completely, and Idioteque -- but that's just me. And that's just
this record. Can't wait for the next one. And the one after that. Etc.
Junga
indigolem <octob...@yahoo.calm> wrote in message
news:39fca499...@news.evcom.net...
> >Oh please, like Radiohead wouldn't have a healthy diet of illicit drugs
> >themselves. Listen to them for Christ sake!!! They are off their nut.
>
> I'm weird without drugs. You think it's impossible? It's pure talent.
A piece of advice....don't take life or yourself too seriously.
indigolem
>>
>>To be a troll, you have to be on topic. He was talking about
>>Shirley Manson anyway. Troll.
>
>responses..and calling irish folk and scottish folk the same ...well..that will
>do it.
That's not the definition of a troll. He just doesn't care.
The ORIGINAL post was more of a troll. Craig's just a
victim. Besides, I happen to agree. People get too hung
up on regionalism. It only starts wars. Suffice it to say that
Shirley Manson is a dumb bitch for thinking she can have
a personal online journal as if she was unknown and not
get anybody pissed off.
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Simon
> she has been quoted as saying that she loves ok computer, and it was one
of her
> favourite albums of all time.
She also said she thinks "The Bends" is the best album of the 90's. She's a
Radiohead fan, and like many Radiohead fans, she is disappointed in the new
album. I love Garbage, and I love Radiohead too. I disagree with Shirley's
opinion of "Kid A" completely, I think it's absolutley brilliant, but I'm
not going to throw a hissy fit either way.
Simon
Simon
>
> KIDA
Not that it's relevant, but I agree!
I still disagree with her about "Kid A", no matter how much I might like
Garbage.
Simon
sator...@my-deja.com
"Craig" <NOS...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Stupid Irish mutt bitch. I think she and her crap band had better
make at
> least one album that even compares to Radiohead's previous three
before
> going off like that . . . obviously jealous of their success.
>
> > ....and so do I.
> >
> > I can't believe that followmearound.com would post a link to Shirley
> > Manson's web diary that is slagging Radiohead!!
wait a minute, boy-o. you're about to piss off another irish bitch.
(manson is irish?) anyway, I don't mind that she felt she couldn't get
into Kid A and misses their strengths. I was more put off by her
linking to the Rolling Stone discussion on how Kid A is a collection of
what wouldn't make "B sides" for someone else, thus showing Rolling
Stone's commercial radio mentality. I don't care if Manson prefers
Radiohead's previous albums. I don't know why she thinks we give a fuck
what she thinks about it though or why it's important for her to tell
us about it. She ought to worry about doing her own music. I agree with
the person who said they'd rather hear from the average joe than some
competing musician. And whether she claims The Bends or OKC are great
or not does not impress me. It just shows me she's limited in how
adaptable she is to someone else's interior growth. It just shows her
to be jealous, and pointing to Rolling Stone for support makes her look
like a back stabbing ass. Yes, Manson has the right to have fave and
non-fave albums, but why she thinks it is of momentous importance to
announce it to us instead of working on her own art, I do not know.
calling her an "Irish mutt bitch" though is about to put you into my
jackass list...
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Before you buy.
Jenkins
> Well for one thing, this is a discussion group . . . or was it
> alt.letstalkabouteverybandonearthbut.radiohead? I'm a Radiohead fan. If
> your not then away with thee, spawn of satan.
I wonder if Satan has an opinion on Kid A. If you're out there Lucy, I'd
really like to hear from you...
Jenkins
Mikarr785 <mika...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I think that that was quite good. I am replying as a way of showing my
approval. However! What is it about How To disappear completely? It's a
very good song and I agree with the people that like it. But there are 9
other songs as well. Some of them are better than How to disappear
completely aswell. Oh well, it's all down to opinions, but I can't believe
you all think HTDC is the best song. It's not!!! But you can have your
opinion anyway...unless you are Ms Manson in which case you must continue to
talk about how ugly you think you are instead because that is exciting.
Jenkins
> >
> >Who is talking about image, and showmanship???? What do you mean? When
> >did anyone establish the criteria for the Best Band in the World?
>
> concerts to be dazzled by the band. It's the only kind of performance
> great, that's a plus. But what the band does, how they react to the
> music, and how they get the crowd going is something I enjoy the most.
> it.
That's quite an interesting opinion you have there. However I think the
reason Radiohead aren't doing what you want is because it's not what they
want. There is no point in criticisng them for it either. I suspect most
people go to concerts to see what the band are like and to see the perform
their own music. The fans will probably want the band to be themselves. So
a stunning performance probably won't be on the cards.
Of course, they could take advice from Select and have Jonny be flown above
the stage on wires while doing a sax solo while the other members of the
band to the Madness nutty dance but....perhaps it wouldn't be for the best,
what with all the psychological trauma it would cause and all.
> >She has an opinion and so do I.
> >
> >She thinks that KA sux and I think she sux.
>
> What are you basing this opinion on? What is wrong with Shirley Manson
> that makes her "suck" in your book? Spell it out, asshole.
Please don't make yourself sound so incredibly stupid by insulting people in
such a manner. I don't like her much because her music is mundane and she
keeps saying how ugly she is. I refuse to spell is out, bitch. (See how
stupid that was?)
> >You guys take things way too seriously around here.
>
> Hey, I'm not the one who wrote "I can't believe that followmearound.com
> would post a link to Shirley Manson's web diary that is slagging
> Radiohead!" I mean, imagine how much of a loser that guy must be.
> "Like, oh my god, someone insulted my band!"
Serious is good but angry is bad.
The Private Eye
>Oh right, Scottish . . . Irish . . . what the fuck's the difference, they
>both got red hair and English accents .
Wow. You are some brainiac. What is the difference? One comes from Scotland,
one comes from Ireland. And neither one of them have English accents. DUH!!!!
But yes, Shirley does have pretty red hair.
>Anyway, the key word is "used" to be a fan . . . and now they're not?
No. They could still be fans and just not happy with the newest product. Are
you such a brainless lemming that in your mind Radiohead could never do any
wrong? Has your friend ever done anything to you to disappoint? Are they no
longer your friend now?
Justin P.I. from hell
"Currently there is no defense against Kung Fu"
- - - General Colin Powell
Mulqueen
Irish people have Irish accents.
As we say here in the land of the spud, cop on to yourself!
(translation : Get a life)
Hoffman
~Jen~
nonsense.
the garbage(shirley?) diaries are regularly picked up
by the music press and "nme",especially ,have printed
headline articles on them.
ms manson is well aware of this fact.
i've no problem with her first comments - if she doesn'nt like
"Kid A" fair enough! she's entitled to her opinion
but in subsequent entries she seemed to be gloating
over it...yes?... of course she is!
this seems to be a favoorite past time of hers
she's made similar outbusts against other contemporaies
like space, jamiroquai,geri halliwell,spice girls,jennifer lopez,
aguilera and b.spears..to name but a few
its just a cheap attempt to get publicity for herself imo
not surprisingly, ms manson doesn't handle criticism very well
when it comes in the opposite direction...eg her response to bad
album/concert reviews from the media
perhaps she need to grow up...
but at 36(?) that seems now very unlikely
~Jen~
In article <ivfovsksiejerpjpj...@4ax.com>,
Paul Hopwood <pa...@hopwood.org.uk> wrote:
And it's hardy
> as if she's taken out adverts in the world press saying "I HATE KID A"
> for the world to see. Her online diary which is more likely to be
> read by fans of Garbage than fans of Radiohead. She's hardly cramming
> her opinion down the throats of people who don't wish to hear it.
>
indigolem
with online access, and frankly, it can be an addiction. Most
people shouldn't have journals and web logs because they
just babble on about nothing when nobody cares. But that's
their prerogative. Don't you dare tell me she wrote it just to
get into the press. If she really wanted to do that, she could
do so with a tit-showing fanfare that would make anyone's
jaw drop. Getting attention is what celebrities are best at,
and that's not what happened here.
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Tymon
Jack Nicholson uses in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?" 'You don't wash
your dirty laundry in public.' Let's drive up to Madison and kick her ass!
C'mon! Who's with me? Remember to bring those pitchforks and torches
along, I'll bring the whisky. ;>
tymon
Poor girl must be feeling like a doofus right now and I'm loving it!
ROTFLMAO!
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Tymon
own a pair of calvin klein's, myself, but what's this word "tits" you're
implying? That's not a fair cop as shirley only has "Rosebuds" so, not much
flashin', ya see? She *does* have a most beautiful voice and that got my
attention, initially. Don't really give a damn about her personal likes
or dislikes.
tymon
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"~Jen~" <medic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> what?
> official band websites ARE publicity machines and they're
> regularly used as a source of info by the music press
> if you don't realize that then you're an idiot
> oh and yes,this woman has been known to flash her knickers
> and tits to get attention too!
>
>
> ~Jen~
>
> In article <3a05d73b...@news.evcom.net>,
> Don't you dare tell me she wrote it just to
> > get into the press. If she really wanted to do that, she could
> > do so with a tit-showing fanfare that would make anyone's
> > jaw drop.
>
>
~Jen~
redhot...@home.com
Tymon wrote:
>
> Wait a sec! I don't doubt that the woman wears knickers. I happen to
> own a pair of calvin klein's, myself, but what's this word "tits" you're
> implying? That's not a fair cop as shirley only has "Rosebuds" so, not much
> flashin', ya see? She *does* have a most beautiful voice and that got my
> attention, initially. Don't really give a damn about her personal likes
> or dislikes.
>
> tymon
>
> --
> Looks like we're in for a bad spell of whether. -anon
>
> "~Jen~" <medic...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8u5248$6lf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> >
When did she flash anyone??
And for anyone who would say Shirley ISNT good looking, she is. She used
to be a model, before Garbage. I'm not sure if it was before or between
her previous bands.
-redhotketchup
good weather for airstrikes
>to be a model, before Garbage. I'm not sure if it was before or between
>her previous bands.
>
>-redhotketchup
er, so being a model makes you good looking..to everyone?
hmm...
(i think shirley looks a bit like a massively pale alien thing.)
Tymon
<redhot...@home.com> wrote in message news:3A063B63...@home.com...
>
>
> When did she flash anyone??
>
I think this person was referring mostly to the ITIP video where shirley
flashes her knickers. Also, there's a well-known shot of shirley at the
'96 VH1 Fashion Awards or something where one of her breasts popped out from
her loose shirt during the performance. Also, on the v2.0 tour there were
several reports from the show in Spain that she was extremely drunk and
flashed the audience her breasts. And, in yet another instance, in one of
her tour reports from San Diego, when Garbage had the luxury of opening for
the "multi-talented" Alanis Morrissette, shirley claims to flashing a
car-load of teenage boys from the tour-bus on the freeway who'd apparently
thought that the bus was Alanis'. Thus, the word "rosebud" comes in to play
since Shirley states that now these boys think that Alanis has small nipples
"about the size of rosebuds." And v3.0 ain't even here yet! Citizen
Kane should ever be so lucky! :>
> And for anyone who would say Shirley ISNT good looking, she is. She used
> to be a model, before Garbage. I'm not sure if it was before or between
> her previous bands.
Her being "good-looking" is just a matter of personal preference.
Personally, I'd rather shag Courtney Love, yet some think she's a dawg.
Tell me, those days when Shirley was a model, was that before or after she
couldn't find work as a prostitute? Hey! I'm joking, I'm joking! Jeeves!
Everybody just lighten up a little about this whole Shirley Manson thing!
The only important thing in these forums is that we all support the bands we
have grown to knnow and love, thru thick and thin.
Peace!
tymon (I like Kid A - I can't help it, I just do.)
>
> -redhotketchup
redhot...@home.com
Tymon wrote:
>
> <redhot...@home.com> wrote in message news:3A063B63...@home.com...
> >
>
> >
> > When did she flash anyone??
> >
>
> I think this person was referring mostly to the ITIP video where shirley
> flashes her knickers. Also, there's a well-known shot of shirley at the
> '96 VH1 Fashion Awards or something where one of her breasts popped out from
> her loose shirt during the performance. Also, on the v2.0 tour there were
> several reports from the show in Spain that she was extremely drunk and
> flashed the audience her breasts. And, in yet another instance, in one of
> her tour reports from San Diego, when Garbage had the luxury of opening for
> the "multi-talented" Alanis Morrissette, shirley claims to flashing a
> car-load of teenage boys from the tour-bus on the freeway who'd apparently
> thought that the bus was Alanis'. Thus, the word "rosebud" comes in to play
> since Shirley states that now these boys think that Alanis has small nipples
> "about the size of rosebuds." And v3.0 ain't even here yet! Citizen
> Kane should ever be so lucky! :>
>
> > And for anyone who would say Shirley ISNT good looking, she is. She used
> > to be a model, before Garbage. I'm not sure if it was before or between
> > her previous bands.
>
> Her being "good-looking" is just a matter of personal preference.
> Personally, I'd rather shag Courtney Love, yet some think she's a dawg.
> Tell me, those days when Shirley was a model, was that before or after she
> couldn't find work as a prostitute? Hey! I'm joking, I'm joking! Jeeves!
> Everybody just lighten up a little about this whole Shirley Manson thing!
> The only important thing in these forums is that we all support the bands we
> have grown to knnow and love, thru thick and thin.
>
> Peace!
>
> tymon (I like Kid A - I can't help it, I just do.)
>
> >
> > -redhotketchup
In that case, If only I lived in Spain...
I remember those awards.. Actually, it's like, the entire performance,
her shirt is pretty open. I remember watching it and being astonished.
Tymon
<redhot...@home.com> wrote in message news:3A06C8CE...@home.com...
>
>
> I remember those awards.. Actually, it's like, the entire performance,
> her shirt is pretty open. I remember watching it and being astonished.
Cool! In that case, I'll post up the infamous "rosebud" shot at the VH1
awards on the alt.music.binaries.garbage ng right away.
Tymon
purple haze
Tymon <tym...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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> LOL! You've hit the nail on the head, but shirley is 34. What's that
line
> Jack Nicholson uses in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?" 'You don't
wash
> your dirty laundry in public.' Let's drive up to Madison and kick her
ass!
> C'mon! Who's with me? Remember to bring those pitchforks and torches
> along, I'll bring the whisky. ;>
>
> tymon
Tymon you can't kick her ass its the best ass in the world.
Let her say what she wants its publicity for both bands
>
Tymon
"purple haze" <ja...@gothictown.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Tymon you can't kick her ass its the best ass in the world.
> Let her say what she wants its publicity for both bands
You're right! Not that I could ever come close to kicking her arse, not
with her going to those pilates classes and all. ;>
tymon
Bad publicity is better than no publicity.