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Frouser

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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I was sitting in my Art History class the other day and somethings I was
reading about Dada got me thinking of Thom and Stanley's style (both
literary and visually). Just reading Dada poems and looking at
dada/surrealist imagery reminds me of Radiohead artwork. and the whole
Futurist ideals about machinery and stuff like that fits in with themes
in Thom's songs and Stanley's artwork. So, I'm gonna go out on a limb
and describe this duo as some sort of dadaist-surrealist-futurist hyrid.
what thoughts do you have?

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jdub

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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> So, I'm gonna go out on a limb and describe this duo as
> some sort of dadaist-surrealist-futurist hyrid.
> what thoughts do you have?


I'd be hard pressed to describe Thom as a Futurist...

Assuming you've been doing your homework ;-) the Futurists were
pretty much a bunch of fascist bastards who used artificial
horsepower, speed and power to compensate for the size of thier
penises.

I'm not in the know, but I'm assuming Thom & Stanley are in no need
of serious penis-envy or size paranoia...

But then... it is Thom, isn't it?

We love him, but he reminds us of how hopelessly paranoid,
depressed, narcissistic and psychosomatically under-acheiveing we
all are.

Oooh. Big words.

Everyone hates big words in newsgroups.


id.

ego.

sad.

small words.

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Mindycy1X

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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Um, no.

No Dada for RH artwork.

No Surrealism.

No Cubism.

No Minimalism.

No Neo-Classical.

More like Doodle.

High Doodle, as in high art.

-mindy, who's listening to "Einstein on the Beach"...yes, all 4 billion hours
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Peace Electric

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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Frouser wrote:

> [...] Just reading Dada poems and looking at dada/surrealist imagery

> reminds me of Radiohead artwork.

What kind of Dada stuff are you referring to? Because the Dada stuff
I was introduced to was all about anti-art. Guys taking toilets out of
public washrooms, signing them, and sticking them in museums. Guys
nailing themselves to car hoods. Things like that. But I never saw
anything that reminded me of Radiohead.


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devi

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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i'd add to that list situationists and modern punk are where the politics of
things radiohead originate.

very jealous of thom and stanley, who seem to elocute their ideas very well.

high doodle... maaan that speaks volumes!!!!!!!!!!!!

l.


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Frouser

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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> I'd be hard pressed to describe Thom as a Futurist...
> Assuming you've been doing your homework ;-) the Futurists were
> pretty much a bunch of fascist bastards who used artificial
> horsepower, speed and power to compensate for the size of thier
> penises.
>

I mentioned a Futurist part in the combination because of their apparent
fascination with modern machinery/imagery, such as in 'Let Down' and
various places throughout the OKC cover art. eg, the motorway, the
plane, the whole car themes, etc. It all shows movement and what not
which deeply impresses Futurists. Though I would personally tie them in
more with Dada or Surrealism.

Eleusi217

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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>>Frouser

> Peace Electric


>> [...] Just reading Dada poems and looking at
>> dada/surrealist imagery
>> reminds me of Radiohead artwork.

>What kind of Dada stuff are you referring to?
>Because the Dada stuff
>I was introduced to was all about anti-art. Guys
> taking toilets out of
>public washrooms, signing them, and sticking them in >museums.

Duchamp. He was one of the first to incorporate written word into compositions
which is something definitely represented in Thom and Stanley's "High Doodles."

I just *LOVE* that term. :)

eleusi

Frouser

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Eleusi217 wrote:
>
> >>Frouser
>
> > Peace Electric
>
> >> [...] Just reading Dada poems and looking at
> >> dada/surrealist imagery
> >> reminds me of Radiohead artwork.
>
> >What kind of Dada stuff are you referring to?
> >Because the Dada stuff
> >I was introduced to was all about anti-art. Guys
> > taking toilets out of
> >public washrooms, signing them, and sticking them in >museums.
>

you need to look at Dada/Surreal poetry, it's very similar to some of
Thom's rants on the website and around the place. I think it's stuff by
Andre Breton, Paul Eulard and I think Duchamp did some aswell. I would
post an example but my stuff is back at school.

jasper konrad

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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In article <364271...@geocities.com>, Frouser <fro...@geocities.com> wrote:

> > I'd be hard pressed to describe Thom as a Futurist...
> > Assuming you've been doing your homework ;-) the Futurists were
> > pretty much a bunch of fascist bastards who used artificial
> > horsepower, speed and power to compensate for the size of thier
> > penises.
>
> I mentioned a Futurist part in the combination because of their apparent
> fascination with modern machinery/imagery, such as in 'Let Down' and
> various places throughout the OKC cover art. eg, the motorway, the
> plane, the whole car themes, etc. It all shows movement and what not
> which deeply impresses Futurists. Though I would personally tie them in
> more with Dada or Surrealism.


i'd guess thom is at the cold end of the futurist spectrum

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Unknown

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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"Nothing would be more erroneous than to assume that the poet creates
from the material of literary tradition. He works rather from primal
experience... The primal experience is word and imageless for it is a
vision in the dark mirror... That which appears in the vision is the
collective unconscious, that curious structure inherited through the
generations..."

C. Jung, 1930

Dada? Nyetnyet.

Some Post-modern Surrealist hybrid?

maybe so.

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