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TheProphetsSong

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May 20, 2001, 5:37:33 PM5/20/01
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Can anyone tell me the exact quote of Lars saying something like his worst
childhood memory was when he couldn't go to a Queen concert because he was
grounded?

Thanks

Jason

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May 20, 2001, 5:45:12 PM5/20/01
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>Can anyone tell me the exact quote of Lars saying something like his worst
>childhood memory was when he couldn't go to a Queen concert because he was
>grounded?

Who cares, he's a cocksucker that ruined napster


Robin

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May 20, 2001, 8:34:37 PM5/20/01
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>From: jason92078

Not only that, but if that's his worse childhood memory then he's damn lucky!


Robin

Mike May

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May 20, 2001, 9:19:42 PM5/20/01
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In article <20010520174512...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
jason...@aol.com.net (Jason) writes:

And...?

Mike


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tiny dancer

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May 20, 2001, 9:05:44 PM5/20/01
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Lars Ulrich is a money grubbing loser who spits on his fans, yeah, the same
ones that made him rich. His name certainly doesn't belong anywhere near
Freddie Mercury.

tiny dancer


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impliedi

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Yeah!!! How dare he ask people to PAY for his work??? Good Lord what's
next???

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Grue

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May 21, 2001, 8:16:29 PM5/21/01
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It wasn't him asking to be paid for his work that made me upset, it was the
fact that he was willing to pursue frivolous lawsuits that only served to
keep the people who wanted to hear his music from doing just that,
especially when he got 30, 000 people banned from the Napster service for
listening to Metallica's music....those were people who LIKED Metallica he
fucked over...also known as Metallicas' FANS.....if any member of a band is
willing to fuck over their fans for the all mighty dollar.....they suck.
But it gets even WORSE.....when those fans complained...he said "Fine,
we don't want those kinds of people as our fans anyways". Well, let me
educate you people on something.....bands don't hardly make shit off of the
albums they sell....you've heard this a thousand times from artists like
Sheryl Crow and Metallica......the money they make is from TOURING......so
if a few people download a few songs, like what they hear, go out and buy
concert tickets, see the show....WHATS THE HARM? The only people who get
fucked in the deal is the record companies....which are not going to miss
it, I assure you. Quite frankly, I think the music industry needed just this
kick in the ass to get them to wake up to how todays fans are tired of their
artificially inflated priced for compact discs. Anyone with a burner knows
the actual disc, the case and everything only costs about $1.00..now I
realize that there are people who need to get paid, like the band, the
record company, the producer, the guy who designed the artwork and
stuff.....but those guys all make their money, all that they are owed in no
more than a years time.....so why is it that Metallicas first album, "Kill
'Em All" from 1983 still costs the same as their new one? Something to think
about...but this is all just my opinion.


Matt

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May 21, 2001, 8:36:48 PM5/21/01
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prop...@aol.comPOSTHEAP (Mike May) wrote in message news:<20010520211942...@nso-ch.aol.com>...

> In article <20010520174512...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
> jason...@aol.com.net (Jason) writes:
>
> >>Can anyone tell me the exact quote of Lars saying something like his worst
> >>childhood memory was when he couldn't go to a Queen concert because he was
> >>grounded?
> >
> >Who cares, he's a cocksucker that ruined napster
>
> And...?
>

He has poor drum sound, and his drum style is annoying and repetative.

Matt

P

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May 21, 2001, 8:54:02 PM5/21/01
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Well..Queen made gazillions and haven't toured since 1986. Their solo tours
lost money..

sn...@mindspring.com

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May 21, 2001, 10:24:33 PM5/21/01
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metallica make a sh*&-load off of album sales.after the break even
point(when the lable is paid for all the money they have invested in the
album),then the band makes money.bands that don't sell enough records to
break even,don't make anything.but metallica makes probobly anywhere from 3
to 5 dollars(or more) for every album they sell after the break even
point(this is what came about when they sued their label to get a better
royalty rate).the average band makes about a dollar per record sold after
breaking even.the big name bands make a lot more.they definatly make the
bucks when they tour-ticket and merchendise sales.
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Geoff Wood

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May 21, 2001, 11:47:31 PM5/21/01
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I 'like' money. Can I have yours for free ?

g.

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Mike May

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May 22, 2001, 3:16:12 AM5/22/01
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In article <195af51.01052...@posting.google.com>,
a11_or...@yahoo.com (Matt) writes:

Fair enough. :-)

Nightro

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May 22, 2001, 11:35:17 PM5/22/01
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Poor drum sound??? With all due respect to Roger Taylor, I think Lars Ulrich
banged louder than any Queen drummer did!!!
>
> Matt


P

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May 22, 2001, 9:06:29 AM5/22/01
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the up and coming band makes little money touring nor selling albums. once
they make it big, both recording and touring make money for them..

I fail to see the argument that says that its ok to copy someone elses
material without their consent..


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sn...@mindspring.com

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May 22, 2001, 10:08:34 AM5/22/01
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I don't think it is right.I think bands should be able to decide whether
they want their music given away.but it is probably impossible to enforce
such a thing.

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Ross Agnew

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May 22, 2001, 9:49:16 AM5/22/01
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One of my cars doesn't have a CD player. Can I tape tunes from my CDs to
play on the cassette player ? Can I borrow my brother's CDs and tape them ?
Think about this: The tapes I make are second generation, analog
recordings. Does the fact that digital recordings are always
first-generation (and always "perfect") have anything to do with this debate
?
-Ross

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Graham McNicol

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May 22, 2001, 10:30:37 AM5/22/01
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(snip)


> Does the fact that digital recordings are always
> first-generation (and always "perfect") have anything to do with this
debate

er, digital recordings are merely an approximation of an analogue signal
using 1s and 0s... this is hardly perfect.

Graham

Robin

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May 22, 2001, 12:26:54 PM5/22/01
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>From: "Nightro"

>Poor drum sound??? With all due respect to Roger Taylor, I think Lars Ulrich
>banged louder than any Queen drummer did!!!

With all due respect to you, (and I mean that) louder does not equal better. I
have seen Lars play and have seen Roger play.
Roger is better hands down. All JMHO.
Robin

Grue

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May 22, 2001, 1:28:20 PM5/22/01
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No you can't have my money, but thats hardly the point....the point is that
Napster is more or less like an all-request-on demenad-radio station...radio
stations play songs for free all day all night, and have done so for years
as a form of advertisement for bands and labels....Napster COULD be the same
thing, with the proper things put in place........small acts without much of
a following could advertise for next to nothing on there by allowing their
music to be heard by an audience willing to take a chance, large acts could
benefit by allowing new fans to hear their music for the first time to break
them in.....I know Napster has been perverted into a beast....with the
advent of PC CD burners, you can make fairly decent CDs to be listened to in
your car from songs downloaded on Napster.....and that I don't agree
with....but for just hearing that new song that you always seem to miss or
hearing a new act perform for the first time....Napster had a shit ton of
potential........too bad.
As far as MP3s being perfect digital copies......if you knew anything
about "lossy compression" you would know that MP3s are anything but
digitally perfect copies of songs....the first thing that happens is that
all sounds outside the normal human range of hearing are clipped off and
discarded, then the song is analized to determine the difference in sounds
produced by the left and right cannels.....similar sounds are then discarded
and the remaining sounds from the remaining channel are then split to play
in mono across both channels, the the sounds that are different between the
two channels are played over the mono portion. Thats how they compress the
songs down that small. Can you hear the difference? Well, at 128, probaly
not...but at 96 and below, sure you can. So in short, MP3s are not
"digitally perfect" copies of the soungs heard on regular CDs, because only
about 1/3 of the original information is left intact.


Matt

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May 22, 2001, 3:02:31 PM5/22/01
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"Nightro" <dz...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<ahrO6.2328$Ld4.1...@ozemail.com.au>...

> Matt <a11_or...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >


> > He has poor drum sound, and his drum style is annoying and repetative.
>
> Poor drum sound??? With all due respect to Roger Taylor, I think Lars Ulrich
> banged louder than any Queen drummer did!!!
> >

Louder doesn't necessarily mean better, although I'm not a fan of
Roger's sound (or style either). Lars played much better on the early
Metallica releases, as Roger also did on the early Queen releases.

Matt

tiny dancer

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May 22, 2001, 3:54:42 PM5/22/01
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I liked Napster for all the things I could get no other way. I already own
every Queen CD they ever made, but from Napster I could get demo's, live
performances, things that weren't available on CD. And also alot of the
oldies that I'd tried to get on CD but were never able to find. I'm talking
about obscure songs from the '60's and early '70's. For that I say Lars is
a money grubbing ass. They're already so much richer than they'd ever know
what to do with, why spoil Napster for the rest of us. What started me on
Napster was an old song I'd tried and tried to order from record stores when
they were still record stores. It was called Distant Fire, by the Sanford
Townsend Band. I'd been trying for at least 20 years to get that one song
and after about two minutes on Napster I had it. If I could've bought it 20
years ago, I would have.

tiny dancer


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mrvica

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Matt <a11_or...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> He has poor drum sound, and his drum style is annoying and repetative.

Yes he does, doesn't he. That's the main reason I don't like metallica, the
sound of the bass drum. It doesn't have any depth. Instead of going dufff it
goes chung, it makes a bit metall, tinny sound. I don't know why they like
it, it sounds shitty to me. Maybe it's my stereo, I should try it with a sub
but I don't think there would be any difference.

Hrvoje


Geoff Wood

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May 22, 2001, 5:03:22 PM5/22/01
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Radio stations PAY per broadcast of each recording. That cost is covered by
advertisers. You PAY by purchasing the advertiser's product (well someone
does...). Nothing is free.

geoff

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Van der Ivor

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Matt wrote:
>prop...@aol.comPOSTHEAP (Mike May) wrote in message news:<20010520211942.03759.
>0000...@nso-ch.aol.com>...

>> In article <20010520174512...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
>> jason...@aol.com.net (Jason) writes:
>>
>> >>Can anyone tell me the exact quote of Lars saying something like his worst
>> >>childhood memory was when he couldn't go to a Queen concert because he was
>> >>grounded?
>> >
>> >Who cares, he's a cocksucker that ruined napster
>>
>> And...?
>>
>
>He has poor drum sound, and his drum style is annoying and repetative.
>

And he's a whinging git. You took the words right out of my mouth about
the drumming too :)


Van der Ivor

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Van der Ivor

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So? If you think a good drum sound consists of 'banging it louder' then
nobody's going to listen to you anyway.

Van der Ivor

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impliedi wrote:
>Yeah!!! How dare he ask people to PAY for his work??? Good Lord what's
>next??


He was suing individual people - he's a multi millionaire. They were
fans of his.

Van der Ivor

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Geoff Wood wrote:
>Radio stations PAY per broadcast of each recording. That cost is covered by
>advertisers. You PAY by purchasing the advertiser's product (well someone
>does...). Nothing is free.
>

Apart from freeware, gnutella, and all those other client to client file
swapping proggies. www.freeloader.com has lots of free stuff. There's
quite a lot of free things, really.

Mike May

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May 23, 2001, 12:35:42 AM5/23/01
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In article <hKuO6.9090$eJ4.1...@news1.cableinet.net>, "Graham McNicol"
<graham....@spamblock.cableinet.co.uk> writes:

>> Does the fact that digital recordings are always
>> first-generation (and always "perfect") have anything to do with this
>debate
>
>er, digital recordings are merely an approximation of an analogue signal
>using 1s and 0s... this is hardly perfect.

And doubly so for MP3. MP3 is a lossy compression format, and is therefore
inferior to CD, even at its highest quality (which is rarely found online,
especially on Napster). MP3 is like a perpetual second- or third-generation
copy.

P or J Mills

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May 23, 2001, 2:30:20 AM5/23/01
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Is that why you put them in adjoining sentences. OOPS !

By the way, is it OK for fans to spit on him by ripping him off, or is
respect just a one way thing?


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P or J Mills

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"Van der Ivor" <foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> impliedi wrote:
> >Yeah!!! How dare he ask people to PAY for his work??? Good Lord what's
> >next??
>
>
> He was suing individual people - he's a multi millionaire. They were
> fans of his.
>

No, not fans, parasites who expect something for nothing, like fleas on a
dogs back. Lars just did what anybody with fleas would do, scratch the itch.


--
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P or J Mills

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"Grue" <gshre...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> No you can't have my money, but thats hardly the point....the point is
that
> Napster is more or less like an all-request-on demenad-radio
station...radio
> stations play songs for free all day all night, and have done so for
years
> as a form of advertisement for bands and labels....Napster COULD be the
same
> thing, with the proper things put in place........small acts without much
of
> a following could advertise for next to nothing on there by allowing their
> music to be heard by an audience willing to take a chance, large acts
could
> benefit by allowing new fans to hear their music for the first time to
break
> them in.....I know Napster has been perverted into a beast....with the
> advent of PC CD burners, you can make fairly decent CDs to be listened to
in
> your car from songs downloaded on Napster.....and that I don't agree
> with....but for just hearing that new song that you always seem to miss
or
> hearing a new act perform for the first time....Napster had a shit ton of
> potential........too bad.

All perfectly true, but as you say, it is open to abuse. Thats the whole
problem, isn't it?


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P

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May 23, 2001, 5:48:19 AM5/23/01
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But this is the problem. You now say that you think bands should have the
right to decide. But then you rip into Lars for standing up for this right..

I disagree with his methods about compiling details of people who downloaded
metallica songs on Napster. He could have gotten Napster to stop simply by
suing them and getting an injunction.

Paul

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May 23, 2001, 8:02:02 AM5/23/01
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i didnt rip into lars(that was someone else)..go back and read the post
again.all i did was comment that metallica makes money off of their albums.

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ruth

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May 23, 2001, 8:21:05 AM5/23/01
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P or J Mills wrote:
>
> Is that why you put them in adjoining sentences. OOPS !
>
> By the way, is it OK for fans to spit on him by ripping him off, or is
> respect just a one way thing?
>
> --
> Paul M.

how can he actually spit on fans from a drumkit anyway surely he'd hit
the band first

Nightro

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Van der Ivor <foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> So? If you think a good drum sound consists of 'banging it louder' then
> nobody's going to listen to you anyway.

> Van der Ivor

What I was trying to say, Mr Know-It-All, is that Lars Ulrich's overall
playing was much stronger than Roger's. It could've been the production, but
then again, I've heard Metallica live and Lars' drumming is virtually the
same as it is on record. If you've listened to Metallica's Black Album, then
watch their performance at FM Tribute Concert, you'll know what I mean.

An interesting fact is that Roger Taylor actually started on guitar before
he moved behind a set of drums. Roger's guitar playing is average, to say
the most, and his drumming was average as well. So drumming was sort of a
second reserve for him - meaning he wasn't born with it in him... well not
like Bonham or Cozy Powell or whoever. There are no particular Queen songs
that spring to mind that feature Roger on exceptionally stunning drums,
except perhaps for Dead On Time, Great King Rat or Liar.

Going back to Lars, most Metallica tracks you hear have some extremely
complicated drumming in them. When he hits the snare, you really feel that
he's hitting it with everything he's got. He's also quite an emotional chap
playing live as he constantly sings to himself and gives an invisible woman
closeby oral sex - which would explain why he's tounge's so restless...


Nightro

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ruth <ru...@zip.com.au> wrote in message news:3B0BAB31...@zip.com.au...

> how can he actually spit on fans from a drumkit anyway surely he'd hit
> the band first

Ha-ha! That's very funny!


P or J Mills

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> Yeah!!! How dare he ask people to PAY for his work??? Good Lord what's
> next???

Tax ?:-)


Robin

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>From: "Nightro"

>An interesting fact is that Roger Taylor actually started on guitar before
>he moved behind a set of drums. Roger's guitar playing is average, to say
>the most, and his drumming was average as well. So drumming was sort of a
>second reserve for him - meaning

>he wasn't born with it in him... well not
>like Bonham or Cozy Powell or whoever.

Actually, Roger played drums since he was very young as well as guitar. He
said the drums came much more naturally to him and that is why he became a
drummer. He plays many instruments well, in fact.

>There are no particular Queen songs

>that spring to mind that feature Roger on exceptionally stunning drums.

There are too many to mention. Roger is far better than average as a drummer.
I guess it's just a matter of opinion.
Robin

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On Wed, 23 May 2001 22:54:15 -0700, "Nightro" <dz...@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>What I was trying to say, Mr Know-It-All, is that Lars Ulrich's overall
>playing was much stronger than Roger's. It could've been the production, but
>then again, I've heard Metallica live and Lars' drumming is virtually the
>same as it is on record. If you've listened to Metallica's Black Album, then
>watch their performance at FM Tribute Concert, you'll know what I mean.

Have you seen Queen live???? or just that FM tribute crap?
Lars never was an outstanding drummer, just a mediocre thrash-metal
drummer, and I really can't find something like a style in his
drumming.
From Queen to Innuendo Roger had his own style, if you can't hear that
I'll give you a hint....listen to his use of cymbals and bass-drum.


>An interesting fact is that Roger Taylor actually started on guitar before
>he moved behind a set of drums. Roger's guitar playing is average, to say
>the most, and his drumming was average as well. So drumming was sort of a
>second reserve for him - meaning he wasn't born with it in him...

Roger has drums in every molecule in his body.......


> well not
>like Bonham or Cozy Powell or whoever. There are no particular Queen songs
>that spring to mind that feature Roger on exceptionally stunning drums,
>except perhaps for Dead On Time, Great King Rat or Liar.

What's so special about these songs?

>Going back to Lars, most Metallica tracks you hear have some extremely
>complicated drumming in them. When he hits the snare, you really feel that
>he's hitting it with everything he's got. He's also quite an emotional chap
>playing live as he constantly sings to himself and gives an invisible woman
>closeby oral sex - which would explain why he's tounge's so restless...

HAHAHA he just hits hard...and besides Lars is every inch a POSER.

Tim Flood

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So can anyone just answer the question? :)

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> Can anyone tell me the exact quote of Lars saying something like his worst
> childhood memory was when he couldn't go to a Queen concert because he was
> grounded?
>

> Thanks


Van der Ivor

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I didn't claim to know-it-all, nor did I say Roger was any better or
worse than Lars. Roger is a decent drummer, nothing outstanding, you're
right. But at least Cosy Powell could use a double bass drum properly,
unlike Lars. Also I stand by other people's opinions that Lars drum
sound is cack, considering the production and engineering abilities
these days. Roger's playing in the 70s was considerably better than it
was later on.

Van der Ivor

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P or J Mills wrote:
>

Parasites? You just labelled several million people there. It's a fact
that Napster encouraged CD sales - they didn't decline they climbed.
People would often download mp3s of tracks and then buy the CD, a kind
of 'try before you buy'. Lars obsession with killing Napster made him
look like a complete twat by suing individual people - who can't afford
to be sued by millionaires. Yes he owns the rights to the songs, but I
don't see him suing people for burning CDs of his stuff, do you? He
chose Napster because it was an easy target, he chose individuals
because they were easy targets. And doing so he answered none of the
questions that needed to be answered - such as how does the music
industry make money from digital music? Oh, lets see, just try to wipe
it out? Uh, yeah, that'll work.

Van der Ivor

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May 23, 2001, 3:35:16 PM5/23/01
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P or J Mills wrote:

Yeah like abuse from Lars and the thuggish RIAA or whatever they're
called.

TymbirWolf

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May 23, 2001, 4:10:02 PM5/23/01
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I was wondering the same thing. Oh well another important question lost amongst
the mire of infighting. tis a pity. Viva la revolution or soemthign like that

-Tym

Geoff Wood

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Or the 'splash' cymbol !

;-)

g.

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Geoff Wood

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1 reason to boycott Shell. They're Dutch. And they are just the same as all
the other oil companies - stuffing up the world and inhibiting progress
towards cleaner fuels.

(Just a joke VDI - not really meaning to slag off the Dutch). I hate GWB as
much as the next man ...

geoff


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Chris Hobbs

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Isn't it interesting that after 38 replies no-one has actually
answered the original question - it's split between the Napster debate
and who's a better drummer...

But I don't know the answer, anyway.

Van der Ivor

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May 23, 2001, 8:29:00 PM5/23/01
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Geoff Wood wrote:
>1 reason to boycott Shell. They're Dutch. And they are just the same as all
>the other oil companies - stuffing up the world and inhibiting progress
>towards cleaner fuels.
>
>(Just a joke VDI - not really meaning to slag off the Dutch). I hate GWB as
>much as the next man ...
>

No offence taken. Probably because I'm not Dutch.
And Exxon Mobil are the *only* oil company not to invest in cleaner
fuels and natural energies such as solar power.


Van der Ivor

--


5 Reasons to boycott Esso(ExxonMobil)

1. They are the power behind George Bush
Esso gave $1,086,080 towards George Bush's election campaign.
As soon as George Bush became president, he said that the United States
would pull out of international agreements to stop global warming ­
exactly the policy that Esso were promoting.

http://www.stopesso.com


Robin

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May 23, 2001, 10:02:08 PM5/23/01
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>From: chris...@hotmail.com (Chris Hobbs)

Well, the quote was something like "My parents not letting me go to a Queen
concert because I was grounded was one of my worst childhood memories." That is
close but not exact.
Robin

Geoff Wood

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May 23, 2001, 10:18:06 PM5/23/01
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I think Napster is a much better drummer. Lars has one narrow style (hard
hitting snares and all that), Roger has a lot more, but Napster seems to
have a huge variey of drumming styles. Every style you've ever heard ....

geoff

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P or J Mills

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"ruth" <ru...@zip.com.au> wrote in message
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> how can he actually spit on fans from a drumkit anyway surely he'd hit
> the band first


LOL. Maybe he saves up a big bag full of his gobs and sneezes which he then
hangs from the arena roof. He then explodes the spit bomb over the fans
during the drum solo in a huge pyrosnotical gush fest.

Jacqui


tiny dancer

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May 24, 2001, 12:59:34 AM5/24/01
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Sorry about that, I didn't mean it literally. I was just trying to make a
point without using the words I really meant. I was trying to keep it
civil, because Lars really pisses me off. Like I said, I already own
everything Queen has made available here in the states and even ordered a
few things from some shop in London, videos that I had to pay to have
converted to VHS. It isn't that I'm looking for free stuff, but I did enjoy
hearing songs from obscure artists that I haven't heard in years, and being
able to get demo's of Queen and Elton and Springstein that I'd never be able
to hear without Napster. To me that's not taking money from anybody. If it
was for sale I'd buy it, but if it's things that aren't for sale how else
can we hear them?

tiny dancer

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Michael Allred

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"Grue" <gshre...@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<9ee7l2$1o9m$1...@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com>...
> No you can't have my money, but thats hardly the point....the point is that
> Napster is more or less like an all-request-on demenad-radio station...radio
> stations play songs for free all day all night, and have done so for years
> as a form of advertisement for bands and labels....Napster COULD be the same
> thing, with the proper things put in place........

radio stations do NOT illegally broadcast copyrighted music, they have
permission from the owners of said music AND they pay a fee. it is not
"free all day all night"

Michael Allred

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May 24, 2001, 1:48:12 PM5/24/01
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Van der Ivor <foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<KcbdYFB$BBD7...@law9.demon.co.uk>...

> P or J Mills wrote:
> >
> >"Van der Ivor" <foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:oA1V$uAA5t...@law9.demon.co.uk...
> >> impliedi wrote:
> >> >Yeah!!! How dare he ask people to PAY for his work??? Good Lord what's
> >> >next??
> >>
> >>
> >> He was suing individual people - he's a multi millionaire. They were
> >> fans of his.
> >>
> >
> >No, not fans, parasites who expect something for nothing, like fleas on a
> >dogs back. Lars just did what anybody with fleas would do, scratch the itch.
> >
> >
>
> Parasites? You just labelled several million people there.

if the label fits....


>It's a fact
> that Napster encouraged CD sales - they didn't decline they climbed.

then why did CD sales in college towns drop dramatically? hmm? bit odd
when college students make up such a large base of napster users.
coincidence?

> People would often download mp3s of tracks and then buy the CD, a kind
> of 'try before you buy'. Lars obsession with killing Napster made him
> look like a complete twat by suing individual people - who can't afford
> to be sued by millionaires.

well apparently they can't even afford a single CD. poor poor kids.
boo-hoo.


>Yes he owns the rights to the songs, but I
> don't see him suing people for burning CDs of his stuff, do you? He
> chose Napster because it was an easy target, he chose individuals
> because they were easy targets. And doing so he answered none of the
> questions that needed to be answered - such as how does the music
> industry make money from digital music? Oh, lets see, just try to wipe
> it out? Uh, yeah, that'll work.
>

if Napster wouldn't have been such pricks to begin with, it never
would've gotten so nasty.

they allow copyrighted material to be given away for free to millions
of people. it's illegal, plain and simple.

however, if it were up to me, i'd just allow the musicians themselves
to decide on whether their own music should be on napster.
>
>
> Van der Ivor
>

Van der Ivor

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May 24, 2001, 3:18:37 PM5/24/01
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Michael Allred wrote:


>>It's a fact
>> that Napster encouraged CD sales - they didn't decline they climbed.
>
>then why did CD sales in college towns drop dramatically? hmm? bit odd
>when college students make up such a large base of napster users.
>coincidence?
>

Probably because they didn't?

>> People would often download mp3s of tracks and then buy the CD, a kind
>> of 'try before you buy'. Lars obsession with killing Napster made him
>> look like a complete twat by suing individual people - who can't afford
>> to be sued by millionaires.
>
>well apparently they can't even afford a single CD. poor poor kids.
>boo-hoo.
>

CDs are over priced anyway, so it's only natural.

>
>>Yes he owns the rights to the songs, but I
>> don't see him suing people for burning CDs of his stuff, do you? He
>> chose Napster because it was an easy target, he chose individuals
>> because they were easy targets. And doing so he answered none of the
>> questions that needed to be answered - such as how does the music
>> industry make money from digital music? Oh, lets see, just try to wipe
>> it out? Uh, yeah, that'll work.
>>
>
>if Napster wouldn't have been such pricks to begin with, it never
>would've gotten so nasty.
>

Napster started off as a student writing a program her thought would be
useful. Do you really think he'd envisage what happened at the time?
Something like that was going to come sooner or later, the music
industry just shut it's eyes and hoped it would all go away. There are
zillions of people breaking copyright laws at any one moment, just
because it's on that big bad scary place called the Internet doesn't
mean it's doomsday. I suppose you've never, ever broken a law yourself
then? Thought as much.

>they allow copyrighted material to be given away for free to millions
>of people. it's illegal, plain and simple.
>
>however, if it were up to me, i'd just allow the musicians themselves
>to decide on whether their own music should be on napster.
>>

True, many bands supported it which seems to have been brushed under the
carpet.

Van der Ivor

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Michael Allred wrote:
>"Grue" <gshre...@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<9ee7l2$1o9m$1@newssvr05-

>en0.news.prodigy.com>...
>> No you can't have my money, but thats hardly the point....the point is that
>> Napster is more or less like an all-request-on demenad-radio station...radio
>> stations play songs for free all day all night, and have done so for years
>> as a form of advertisement for bands and labels....Napster COULD be the same
>> thing, with the proper things put in place........
>
>radio stations do NOT illegally broadcast copyrighted music, they have
>permission from the owners of said music AND they pay a fee. it is not
>"free all day all night"


Depends what radio stations you listen to.

Grue

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May 24, 2001, 9:05:34 PM5/24/01
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radio stations do NOT illegally broadcast copyrighted music, they have
permission from the owners of said music AND they pay a fee. it is not "free
all day all night"


What I meant was to say that it is free on my end...for my consumption, I
pay no fee....and the point was that if Napster could get that kind of
authorization to pay that fee, it could have been great. Of course radio
stations pay a fee, but they are received for free......


P

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sorry dude

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P or J Mills

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"TymbirWolf" <tymbi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Well the question was:

"his worst childhood memory was when he couldn't go to a Queen concert
because he was grounded"

The answer is:

"The worst day of my life was when I was a teenager and my mom wouldn't let
me go to a Queen concert because I was grounded" - Lars Ulrich

How important was that? Absolutely nothing of significance different from
the question and easily found using Google. I think that the discussion
that the question prompted was far more important and far more interesting
than that sterile answer. This *is* a discussion group and a forum for
opinions after all, it is hopefully not a resource for people who want
others do simple web searches for them.

This is going to be one hell of a boring NG if we are not allowed to debate
and have opposing views.

--
Paul M.

sn...@mindspring.com

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no problem!
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P or J Mills

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"Van der Ivor" <foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Geoff Wood wrote:
> >1 reason to boycott Shell. They're Dutch. And they are just the same as
all
> >the other oil companies - stuffing up the world and inhibiting progress
> >towards cleaner fuels.
> >
> >(Just a joke VDI - not really meaning to slag off the Dutch). I hate GWB
as
> >much as the next man ...

> No offence taken. Probably because I'm not Dutch.
> And Exxon Mobil are the *only* oil company not to invest in cleaner
> fuels and natural energies such as solar power.

If you are not Dutch, are you an anagram?

Perhaps you are that famous Irish delivery man, Van O'Driver?

Or perhaps you are better known as the latest decendant in the famous line
of cursing Irish priests, otherwise known as Rev. O'Darn IV? ;-)


--
Paul M.

TymbirWolf

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May 25, 2001, 2:10:51 PM5/25/01
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<< This is going to be one hell of a boring NG if we are not allowed to debate
and have opposing views. >>


Paul,

I am not saying that the discussion of Napster is bad. I just find it
interesting that a simple question was asked and it wasn't answered until
recently. I am just saying let's have a little respect for the original
question before we go running willynilly naked in the fields on different
topics. As for the Google search, with that logic you shouldn't even ask
questions here, because google can pretty much asnwer most of them. Hell, we
put up with stupid questions from Doris and WKM we can answer one that not so
stupid.

-Tym

Van der Ivor

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May 28, 2001, 5:30:39 PM5/28/01
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P or J Mills wrote:

>
>> No offence taken. Probably because I'm not Dutch.
>> And Exxon Mobil are the *only* oil company not to invest in cleaner
>> fuels and natural energies such as solar power.
>
>If you are not Dutch, are you an anagram?
>

No, I'm a person.

>Perhaps you are that famous Irish delivery man, Van O'Driver?
>

No, getting close.

>Or perhaps you are better known as the latest decendant in the famous line
>of cursing Irish priests, otherwise known as Rev. O'Darn IV? ;-)
>

Feck off!

Van der Ivor

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Grue wrote:
>
> radio stations do NOT illegally broadcast copyrighted music, they have
>permission from the owners of said music AND they pay a fee. it is not "free
>all day all night"
>

Oh so Pirate radio stations pay royalties? Er, no.

Mike May

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May 28, 2001, 11:06:01 PM5/28/01
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In article <LxPNT0Bz...@law9.demon.co.uk>, Van der Ivor
<foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> writes:

>> radio stations do NOT illegally broadcast copyrighted music, they have
>>permission from the owners of said music AND they pay a fee. it is not "free
>>all day all night"
>>
>
>Oh so Pirate radio stations pay royalties? Er, no.

Are there even any pirate radio stations in operation in first world countries?

Mike


"What's that you're barbecuing in your kitchen? It's a human head!"

www.arstechnica.com - For the geek in all of us.

P or J Mills

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"TymbirWolf" <tymbi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> -Tym

Sorry, Tym, but patience is a virtue, is it not? So is tolerance. People
will answer questions if they want or go off on a tangent if they want. I
don't see a problem either way.

However, the idea of all the AMQ posters running willynilly naked in the
fields appeals greatly. Anybody else up for it?

--
Paul M.

Van der Ivor

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Mike May wrote:
>In article <LxPNT0Bz...@law9.demon.co.uk>, Van der Ivor
><foad_s...@law9.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>>> radio stations do NOT illegally broadcast copyrighted music, they have
>>>permission from the owners of said music AND they pay a fee. it is not "free
>>>all day all night"
>>>
>>
>>Oh so Pirate radio stations pay royalties? Er, no.
>
>Are there even any pirate radio stations in operation in first world countries?
>

Yes.

There are also 'pirate' radio stations on the Net, I don't see the RIAA
or Lars clamouring to stop them. Also there are billions of fan or
otherwise websites which use pictures and text copyrighted by other
people without permission. I don't see anyone enforcing this.

Ross Agnew

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> However, the idea of all the AMQ posters running willynilly naked in the
> fields appeals greatly. Anybody else up for it?
> --
> Paul M.

Let's hear from some girls and I'm there ! Heck, I'd fly to the UK for that
!

-Ross


Jon

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Actually, this brings up an interesting point. Where have the females in the
group been lately?

I haven't seen a post from Robin, rOOth, or various Susans and a Bec in about
3-5 days. Only Jacqui (or was it Paul???) has been posting. Did Doris
and/or/aka Mahler get together and kidnap the ladies of the group?

Jon

Robin

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May 31, 2001, 9:17:45 AM5/31/01
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>Actually, this brings up an interesting point. Where have the females in the
>group been lately?
>
>I haven't seen a post from Robin, rOOth, or various Susans and a Bec in about
>3-5 days. Only Jacqui (or was it Paul???) has been posting. Did Doris
>and/or/aka Mahler get together and kidnap the ladies of the group?
>
>
>
>Jon

Hi Jon! Actually, I have been sooooo flippin' busy that I'm not on the puter
all that much.
I work at a dance studio and our annual recital it next weekend and there is so
much work, and extra rehearsals etc, to do that I'm not home too much! After
the recital I will be back to torment you all on much more regular basis. Oh,
as for running willy nilly........I'll get back to you on that. :)

Robin

Van der Ivor

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May 31, 2001, 12:15:36 PM5/31/01
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Without a plane!

P or J Mills

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May 31, 2001, 6:17:43 PM5/31/01
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That's interesting Robin, to what age group, and what style of dance, do you
teach? I used to be a Ballroom and Latin dancer myself. I gave it up and
trained to be a teacher when I got married, I intended to teach children but
didn't really do that much with the qualification in the end. Maybe I will
when I retire ... :-)

Jacqui

"Robin" wrote

Jon

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May 31, 2001, 8:00:12 PM5/31/01
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>Hi Jon! Actually, I have been sooooo flippin' busy that I'm not on the puter
>all that much.
>I work at a dance studio and our annual recital it next weekend and there is
>so
>much work, and extra rehearsals etc, to do that I'm not home too much! After
>the recital I will be back to torment you all on much more regular basis.

Oh, I see. I can't wait for the torment to returin though! Good luck with the
recital.

>Oh,
>as for running willy nilly........I'll get back to you on that. :)

Hey hey!

Jon


Robin

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May 31, 2001, 8:52:22 PM5/31/01
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>That's interesting Robin, to what age group, and what style of dance, do you
>teach? I used to be a Ballroom and Latin dancer myself. I gave it up and
>trained to be a teacher when I got married, I intended to teach children but
>didn't really do that much with the qualification in the end. Maybe I
will
>when I retire ... :-)
>
>Jacqui

Hi Jacqui. My classes range from age 3 to age 8. I teach tap, ballet and
jazz. I also take classes there as the studio ranges from age 3 to adult. I
also am trained as a teacher (early childhood ed.) and then became trained to
teach dance to the younger ones. It's an interesting twist on teaching. I'm
not the greatest dancer in the world, but do well enough to teach that age
group. I keep taking classes so that I can teach higher level dance. I love
to watch ballroom dancing, you should try to return to it one day...it's great
excercise and fun as you know. :)


Robin

Susan Stansfield

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In article <20010531002402...@ng-da1.aol.com>, aceg...@aol.com
(Jon) wrote:

>I haven't seen a post from Robin, rOOth, or various Susans and a Bec in
>about
>3-5 days. Only Jacqui (or was it Paul???) has been posting. Did Doris
>and/or/aka Mahler get together and kidnap the ladies of the group?

I'm here; I just haven't posted that much the past few days. :-)

One of the various Susans

ruth

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Susan Stansfield wrote:
>
> In article <20010531002402...@ng-da1.aol.com>, aceg...@aol.com
> (Jon) wrote:
>
> >I haven't seen a post from Robin, rOOth, or various Susans and a Bec in
> >about
> >3-5 days. Only Jacqui (or was it Paul???) has been posting. Did Doris
> >and/or/aka Mahler get together and kidnap the ladies of the group?
>

I've been busy nursing !
Danger's passed so you've got me back again.

--
::::~~~~rOOth~~~~::::

ruth

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Van der Ivor wrote:
>
> Ross Agnew wrote:
> >> However, the idea of all the AMQ posters running willynilly naked in the
> >> fields appeals greatly. Anybody else up for it?
> >> --
> >> Paul M.

only if it's a warm day

--
::::~~~~rOOth~~~~::::

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