Roger Taylor with the Religious Right??!!
Elisa Francesca Roselli
the
video for HAMMER TO FALL, Roger Taylor is wearing a T-shirt emblazoned
with
the slogan "Choose Life". This slogan is associated with the American
Religious Right (Bush and Co) and the movement to suppress women's right
to
abortion and control of their own bodies.
I am especially surprised in view of the traditionally "apolitical"
stand of
Queen. This isn't just a political slogan, it is a very inflammatory
one,
with connotations of extremists who go around murdering gynecologists
and
stalking their customers (as well as proclaiming that Gays like Freddie
go
automatically to Hell). Moreover, I'm sure I've heard Roger at interview
saying something about how religions "fsck people up" or words to that
effect. Wasn't he the one who refused to meet a Latin American dictator
on
human rights grounds?
Am I seeing this correctly or was Roger just out of it? I'm appalled at
the
thought that he could be associated with a movement so repellent. On the
other hand I find it hard to believe that he, and Queen in general,
could
have been ignorant of the connotations of that slogan, especially on a
video
that must have aired before millions. Please tell me it's not true!
EFR
Dancemom1060
and all that. Although, since you are the resident childhater of the group, I
don't find your reaction strange either. :p
Robin, who has three children and would wear the shirt too!
FH
Elisa Francesca Roselli
<Elisa.Franc...@quadratec-software.com> wrote:
This is the Wham t-shirt craze from the 80! There were lots and lots of
T-shirts like that all over and the guys who started this were Wham.
Have a look at 'Wake me up before you gogo' and guess what? Everyone
wears a t-shirt with 'Choose life'. I think it meant just go for it and
have fun.
So its an 80-s fashion statement and not related in any way AT ALL to
any political statement whatsoever and completely the opposite to what
the message means in the USA nowadays. I have noticed this shirt in that
video lots of times and it always makes me smile cos I remembr wearing
one too... plus some other things :)
FH
Elisa Francesca Roselli
EFR
Daniel Dreibelbis
FH <bs...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
> This is the Wham t-shirt craze from the 80! There were lots and lots of
> T-shirts like that all over and the guys who started this were Wham.
> Have a look at 'Wake me up before you gogo' and guess what? Everyone
> wears a t-shirt with 'Choose life'. I think it meant just go for it and
> have fun.
>
> So its an 80-s fashion statement and not related in any way AT ALL to
> any political statement whatsoever and completely the opposite to what
> the message means in the USA nowadays. I have noticed this shirt in that
> video lots of times and it always makes me smile cos I remembr wearing
> one too... plus some other things :)
IIRC there was more of a statement being made with those T-Shirts at
the time than it being a fashion statement. Thankfully, it isn't of a
right-wing agenda, but rather it was calling attention to the problem of
teen suicide and how it didn't have to happen, hence the term "choose
life". At least that's what I recall.
But you're right about how there was a fashion statement movement
utilizing T-shirts. Though I think Wham's paled next to that of Frankie
Goes To Hollywood's "Frankie Say" campaign ("Relax! Don't Do It!", "War!
Hide Yourself", "Arm The Unemployed" , "No More" ).
But you don't have to worry about Roger being with the religious
right - a listen to the _Happiness?_ album, particularly "The Key" and
"Dear Mr. Murdoch" should cure you of that misunderstanding :)
--
Dan Dreibelbis, Guitar Nerd - Better Living Through Home Recording
song #5 - "Cranked Old Man" - now available
http://www.mp3.com/dan_dreibelbis
Chris Burns
> Watching my Queen videos last night, I was very shocked to see that in
> the video for HAMMER TO FALL, Roger Taylor is wearing a T-shirt emblazoned
> with the slogan "Choose Life". This slogan is associated with the American
> Religious Right (Bush and Co) and the movement to suppress women's right
> to abortion and control of their own bodies.
Hmmm, yeah, never thought of that - I suppose it could mean that Roger is
anti-abortion..
I always thought (inasmuch as I bother interpreting people's t-shirts, which
isn't
much :-) that "Choose Life" meant more - "go for it!" "live your life to the
fullest"
"enjoy living" "don't screw up your life with drugs" etc. etc.
anyway, it was a popular t-shirt at the time, so I wouldn't worry too much
about it.
Robin
>of view, they get branded with a defamatory term, like, say,
>"childhater?"
Hmmmm, the same she calls parents breeders and children sprogs? It's
definately not her poing of view I mind. To each his own. Go back and re-read
her op.
You'll see the word.
>Is this Christian love in action? I certainly hope not.
Who said I was a Christian?
>Dancemom -- think before you speak,
I did.
>and maybe give an apology.
No, I don't think so.
>Or do you forsake the teachings of your God, who said to love thine enemy?
I don't condider her an enemy for Pete's sake. As for the whole God
statement......let's say I agree with Roger on that one.
Robin
Bryan Harrison
"I don't like religion, it tends to fuck people up"
Bryan
TymbirWolf
for a general non-violent reasoning what does it really matter? So some over
zealous american right wingers take their anti-abortion stance to the extreme,
it doesn't make the view point any less valid for someone. What if Roger does
feel that abortion is wrong? Does that make him the next Hitler because he
doesn't fit into the mold of someone elses pre-concieved notions of their
superstars? Maybe he doesn't want to see anyone die. Maybe that unwanting for
death is a broad term for him, maybe it doesn't just cover capitol punishment
and war but maybe unborn children as well. If disagreeing with someone's view
point in a band causes you to be unable to listen to their music then well,
there is no help for you.
-tym
PetePanaro
>From: Elisa Francesca Roselli Elisa.Franc...@quadratec-software.com
>Date: 5/20/2003 7:37 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <3ECA1390...@quadratec-software.com>
>
>Watching my Queen videos last night, I was very shocked to see that in
>the
>video for HAMMER TO FALL, Roger Taylor is wearing a T-shirt emblazoned
>with
>the slogan "Choose Life."
Horrors! Who would choose life?
But anyway, never fear, Roger's shirt I believe had something to do with the
anti-nuclear movement that was popular in the mid-80's.
----
Cancer free as of 4/25/03.
PetePanaro
>From: Vera Lynn vera...@nobodyhome.com
>Date: 5/20/2003 11:07 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <vera-lynn-6FB44...@netnews.attbi.com>
>
>In article <20030520075316...@mb-m01.aol.com>,
> dancem...@aol.com (Dancemom1060) wrote:
>
>> For a man with five children I don't find it strange at all. Freedom of
>> speech
>> and all that. Although, since you are the resident childhater of the
>group,
>> I
>> don't find your reaction strange either. :p
>
>of view, they get branded with a defamatory term, like, say,
>"childhater?"
>
Did you even read the original post? That person was full of hate.
Belinda Paschal
Geoff Wood
"Dancemom1060" <dancem...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030520075316...@mb-m01.aol.com...
Sure it didn't say "Choose Wild Life" , considering Roger's propensity t
party hard ?
;-)
geoff
PetePanaro
>Date: 5/20/2003 11:55 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20030520115534...@mb-m29.aol.com>
>
>Regardless if the shirt stands for the cause of anti-abortion or if it stands
>for a general non-violent reasoning what does it really matter? So some over
>zealous american right wingers take their anti-abortion stance to the
>extreme,
>it doesn't make the view point any less valid for someone.
Sadly, some here and elsewhere are of the mind that if you disagree with their
viewpoint on a topic, you're not just wrong, you're beneath contempt and
possibly demonic.
ToniTalley1
>>with
>>the slogan "Choose Life."
What does Roger's personal beliefs have to do with his ability to make good
music? Why would it really matter to anyone if he was politically right or
left? Anyone who follows Queen knows that he just likes to dress trendy
anyway.
Ech...@webtv.net
"Choose Baby Killing"
go roger
mugs
> Better than a shirt reading
> "Choose Baby Killing"
Or even "Choose Stupidity".
> go roger
go you
Paul Harris
"Bryan Harrison" <br...@NOSPAMjodieanne.co.uk> wrote in message
news:badird$ro3$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Let's not overract or anything, but to quote Roger:
>
> "I don't like religion, it tends to fuck people up"
Didn't he also say something along the lines of; "I hate really religious
people."?
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PetePanaro
>Date: 5/21/2003 3:31 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <bagk7a$um3$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>
>
>
>"Bryan Harrison" <br...@NOSPAMjodieanne.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:badird$ro3$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> Let's not overract or anything, but to quote Roger:
>>
>> "I don't like religion, it tends to fuck people up"
>
>Didn't he also say something along the lines of; "I hate really religious
>people."?
>
I guess that includes the Pope. Sad to know that Roger holds to close-minded
bigotry in an ironic attempt to be progressive and open-minded.
Geoff Wood
"PetePanaro" <petep...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> I guess that includes the Pope. Sad to know that Roger holds to
close-minded
> bigotry in an ironic attempt to be progressive and open-minded.
I know the pope is a close-minded bigot (not to mention a concious
perpetrator of the big lie), but it's hardly appropriate to post such
abrasive comments in a forum like this.
geoff
PetePanaro
>From: "Geoff Wood" ge...@paf.co.nz-nospam
>Date: 5/21/2003 4:13 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <46Rya.10500$AB5.1...@news02.tsnz.net>
Stop being an asshole.
Geoff Wood
The word in most of the English-speaking world is "arsehole'.
There was a young maid from Madras
Had a truly magnificent ass.
Not rounded and pink
As you possibly think
But was grey, had long ears, and ate grass.
Sorry, it's so difficult when there is such a good reactionary conservative
around.
geoff
Nail
"mugs" <nickdre...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:VeIya.172$x55....@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
In this vane, I'd like to suggest a shirt title too. But before I reveal it
I suppose I should acknowledge that some may forever after reading it hate
me.
Also, I believe in a womans right to choose. Having said that I don't think
in many cases the choice should be abortion. However on to the shirt title:
On Front
"I was irresponsible with my sex partner and became pregnant."
On Back
"I will probably continue to be irresponsible, so please let me kill my baby
before I screw it up outside the womb."
Freedom of Choice!
Go Mommies of the World!
nail
Bryan Harrison
>>>
>>>"I don't like religion, it tends to fuck people up"
>>
>>Didn't he also say something along the lines of; "I hate really religious
>>people."?
>>
> I guess that includes the Pope. Sad to know that Roger holds to close-minded
> bigotry in an ironic attempt to be progressive and open-minded.
The Pope? That's a laugh. Is he even alive enough to know what religion
he's a part of? <g>
But there is no-one more closed minded that someone who is "really
religious". Maybe that was Roger's point, and if it was, I agree. AND I
think you just proved it.
Bryan
> Cancer free as of 4/25/03.
Still not stress free tho?
PetePanaro
>From: "Geoff Wood" ge...@paf.co.nz-nospam
>Message-id: <4iYya.10599$AB5.2...@news02.tsnz.net>
>
>
>"PetePanaro" <petep...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Stop being an asshole.
>
>
>The word in most of the English-speaking world is "arsehole'.
>
They need to learn to speak English then.
:)
----
PetePanaro
>Date: 5/22/2003 2:47 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <Qn_ya.58369$6P6.1...@twister.socal.rr.com>
You should market that shirt.
PetePanaro
>Date: 5/22/2003 6:19 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <bai86r$pc$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>
Explain how someone who happens to be religious is the epitome of
"close-minded." I still don't see the connection, and saying so doesn't make
it so.
If anything, saying anyone religious is close-minded, or making blanket
statements of "i hate religious people" is the epitome of being close-minded
and bigoted.
Dislike someone because their religious beliefs suck, but to decide not to have
anything to do with and/or hate them simply because they believe in religion
is writing off a lot of nice people.
----
Bryan Harrison
> "close-minded." I still don't see the connection, and saying so doesn't make
> it so.
Excessive religious people are what cults and wars are made of. i.e.
unable to accept that other people don't believe in your god, and
persecuting them because of it. Sounds like close mindedness to me.
> If anything, saying anyone religious is close-minded, or making blanket
> statements of "i hate religious people" is the epitome of being close-minded
> and bigoted.
I'm not, and neither did Roger. REALLY religious was the key. In other
words, people who are over the top, and blind about their faith.
> Dislike someone because their religious beliefs suck, but to decide not to have
> anything to do with and/or hate them simply because they believe in religion
> is writing off a lot of nice people.
The converse is also true. Religious people who have nothing to do with
non-believers. Trust me, I've been there.
> Cancer free as of 4/25/03.
You might explain what this pointless statement means one day.
Bryan
Ian Robinson
(in message <20030522114026...@mb-m18.aol.com>):
> You should market that shirt.
as a duster!
Ian
--
Ian Robinson, Belfast, UK
<http://www.canicula.com>
ToniTalley1
>"I was irresponsible with my sex partner and became pregnant."
Argh, always blaming the girl.
Paul Harris
> >
> > They need to learn to speak English then.
>
"President Bush was on the phone to Jaqcues Chirac. He said 'If we hadn't
helped you in WWII you would be speaking German now.' and Chirac replied
with 'If we hadn't helped you against the British you would be speaking
English now.'"
PetePanaro
>
>Ah, Americans. They always think they speak English.
>
Musta missed the smiley under my post.
----
PetePanaro
>Date: 5/22/2003 7:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20030522194627...@mb-m20.aol.com>
>
>>From: petep...@aol.com (PetePanaro)
>
>>"I was irresponsible with my sex partner and became pregnant."
>
>Argh, always blaming the girl.
>
I didn't write what you quoted.
PetePanaro
>Date: 5/22/2003 12:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <baisc6$52r$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>
>
>> Explain how someone who happens to be religious is the epitome of
>> "close-minded." I still don't see the connection, and saying so doesn't
>make
>> it so.
>
>Excessive religious people are what cults and wars are made of. i.e.
>unable to accept that other people don't believe in your god, and
>persecuting them because of it. Sounds like close mindedness to me.
So all religious people are cultists and jihadists? I think your statement
pretty much speaks for itself.
----
PetePanaro
>
>You might explain what this pointless statement means one day
I think it's pretty clear.
----
Paul Harris
"Geoff Wood" <ge...@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in message
news:4iYya.10599$AB5.2...@news02.tsnz.net...
>
> "PetePanaro" <petep...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Stop being an asshole.
>
>
> The word in most of the English-speaking world is "arsehole'.
>
> There was a young maid from Madras
> Had a truly magnificent ass.
> Not rounded and pink
> As you possibly think
> But was grey, had long ears, and ate grass.
But that rhyme doesn't work for us southerners!!!
Robin
>>
>>You might explain what this pointless statement means one day
It's pretty self explanatory, no? Oh, and hardly pointless.
Robin
Richard Lowndes
widely used anti nuclear statement (especially popular in the UK), at that
time it had nothing to do with an abortion message.
"Elisa Francesca Roselli" <Elisa.Franc...@quadratec-software.com>
wrote in message news:3ECA1390...@quadratec-software.com...
> Watching my Queen videos last night, I was very shocked to see that in
> the
> video for HAMMER TO FALL, Roger Taylor is wearing a T-shirt emblazoned
> with
> the slogan "Choose Life". This slogan is associated with the American
> Religious Right (Bush and Co) and the movement to suppress women's right
> to
> abortion and control of their own bodies.
>
> I am especially surprised in view of the traditionally "apolitical"
> stand of
> Queen. This isn't just a political slogan, it is a very inflammatory
> one,
> with connotations of extremists who go around murdering gynecologists
> and
> stalking their customers (as well as proclaiming that Gays like Freddie
> go
> automatically to Hell). Moreover, I'm sure I've heard Roger at interview
>
> saying something about how religions "fsck people up" or words to that
> effect. Wasn't he the one who refused to meet a Latin American dictator
> on
> human rights grounds?
>
> Am I seeing this correctly or was Roger just out of it? I'm appalled at
> the
> thought that he could be associated with a movement so repellent. On the
>
> other hand I find it hard to believe that he, and Queen in general,
> could
> have been ignorant of the connotations of that slogan, especially on a
> video
> that must have aired before millions. Please tell me it's not true!
>
> EFR
>
DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake
>Date: 5/23/2003 4:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <Olvza.1677$nU....@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>
>
>Roger was wearing a T-shirt that said 'Choose Life', but in 1984 it was a
>widely used anti nuclear statement (especially popular in the UK), at that
>time it had nothing to do with an abortion message.
Yeah, that was exactly my thought as well. And it was in the Hammer to Fall
video, no? An anti-nuke song.
Susan Stansfield
In article <20030523165416...@mb-m21.aol.com>,
petep...@aol.comgoaway (DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake) wrote:
>>Roger was wearing a T-shirt that said 'Choose Life', but in 1984 it was
>a
>>widely used anti nuclear statement (especially popular in the UK), at
>that
>>time it had nothing to do with an abortion message.
>
>Yeah, that was exactly my thought as well. And it was in the Hammer to
>Fall
>video, no? An anti-nuke song.
Makes sense to me. BTW, Pete, like the "Dad is great" bit in your email
address. I know where it came from. <g>
Susan
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Nail
"ToniTalley1" <tonit...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030522194627...@mb-m20.aol.com...
> >From: petep...@aol.com (PetePanaro)
>
> >"I was irresponsible with my sex partner and became pregnant."
>
> Argh, always blaming the girl.
No, not blaming just the girl. Read the quote: I was irresponsible WITH my
sex PARTNER and became pregnant.
In the English language that I so often thank the 16th-18th century Brits
for, that says to me, that there are 2 people to hold accountable for a
pregnancy.
nail
Bryan Harrison
>>unable to accept that other people don't believe in your god, and
>>persecuting them because of it. Sounds like close mindedness to me.
>
> So all religious people are cultists and jihadists? I think your statement
> pretty much speaks for itself.
Oh, yes. That's exactly what I said.
Nevermind.
Bryan
Bryan Harrison
>>
>>>You might explain what this pointless statement means one day
>
>
> It's pretty self explanatory, no? Oh, and hardly pointless.
>
Well I can guess what it might mean, but as I've asked him a couple of
times before and he hasn't replied, I can only assume it doesn't mean
anything.
Bryan
Susan Stansfield
In article <8hCAa.6853$u91.2...@twister.socal.rr.com>, "Nail"
<nail...@socal.riverr.com> wrote:
True. But also note the phrase, "became pregnant". The last time I checked,
only females could get pregnant. So the above could be interpreted as "blaming
the girl".
Stunt Potato
"Susan Stansfield" <susie...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030528003752...@mb-m05.aol.com...
Unless of course the t-shirt is intended for seahorses, when in fact it
would refer to the male!
Jacqui
DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake
>Date: 5/24/2003 9:45 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20030524214501...@mb-m21.aol.com>
>
>
>In article <20030523165416...@mb-m21.aol.com>,
>petep...@aol.comgoaway (DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake) wrote:
>
>>>Roger was wearing a T-shirt that said 'Choose Life', but in 1984 it was
>>a
>>>widely used anti nuclear statement (especially popular in the UK), at
>>that
>>>time it had nothing to do with an abortion message.
>>
>>Yeah, that was exactly my thought as well. And it was in the Hammer to
>>Fall
>>video, no? An anti-nuke song.
>
>Makes sense to me. BTW, Pete, like the "Dad is great" bit in your email
>address. I know where it came from. <g>
>
>Susan
Heh. Classic comedy bit.
DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake
>Date: 5/27/2003 4:11 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <bav6jv$bog$2...@sparta.btinternet.com>
My signature meant what it meant.
Robin
>>times before and he hasn't replied, I can only assume it doesn't mean
>>anything.
Now, you know what they say about people who assume.........
Robin
Paul Harris
checked,
> only females could get pregnant. So the above could be interpreted as
"blaming
> the girl".
Well it's hardly going to read "I was irresponsible with my sex partner and
we both became pregnant!"
Belinda Paschal
"Stunt Potato" <p.mi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pKXAa.12981$tE....@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
it was a declaration of Roger's BREAKFAST CEREAL preference!!! Heh, heh ...
Stunt Potato
"Belinda Paschal" <belinda...@lexisnexis.com> wrote in message
news:bb37ee$7k9$1...@mailgate2.lexis-nexis.com...
> > >Heyyyy ... MAYBE it's not about abortion or nukes or seahorses ...
maybe
> it was a declaration of Roger's BREAKFAST CEREAL preference!!! Heh, heh
...
>
Wonder if he got anything strange in it?!
Jacqui
Stunt Potato
"Paul Harris" <pa...@spam-me-and-diestudham74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bb35i7$hls$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > True. But also note the phrase, "became pregnant". The last time I
> checked,
> > only females could get pregnant. So the above could be interpreted as
> "blaming
> > the girl".
>
> Well it's hardly going to read "I was irresponsible with my sex partner
and
> we both became pregnant!"
Unless of course the t shirt is being worn by Maggie Thatcher ;-)
Jacqui
ToniTalley1
>maybe
>it was a declaration of Roger's BREAKFAST CEREAL preference!!!
Ohhh, good one. Makes sense to me!
Geoff Wood
"DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake" <petep...@aol.comgoaway> wrote in > >
>
> My signature meant what it meant.
>
I've got a signature: really, pre-existing, and I dreamt it up myself !
Geoff Wood
"Just because it looks like chocolate doesn't mean it *is* chocolate"
Sue
"ToniTalley1" <tonit...@aol.com> wrote
> >From: "Belinda Paschal" belinda...@lexisnexis.com
> >maybe it was a declaration of Roger's BREAKFAST CEREAL preference!!!
>
> Ohhh, good one. Makes sense to me!
Not to Brits though, we don't have that here. He must be a three Shredded
Wheat man. ;)
Sue
ToniTalley1
>Roger's BREAKFAST CEREAL preference!!!
>>
>> Ohhh, good one. Makes sense to me!
>
>Not to Brits though, we don't have that here. He must be a three Shredded
>Wheat man. ;)
And for those of us who are old enough to
remember...............................................LIfe, he won't like
it....
"Hey, Mikey....he likes it!"
Paul Harris
Well thanks a lot. Now I've got a disturbing picture in my mind which is
going to be stuck in there for days to come!
ARGH!!!!! GET IT OUT GET IT OUT!!!!!
;-)
Geoff Wood
> >Wheat man. ;)
>
> And for those of us who are old enough to
> remember...............................................LIfe, he won't like
> it....
> "Hey, Mikey....he likes it!"
"Life - don't talk to me about life ...."
geoff
Stunt Potato
> > Unless of course the t shirt is being worn by Maggie Thatcher ;-)
>
> Well thanks a lot. Now I've got a disturbing picture in my mind which is
> going to be stuck in there for days to come!
>
> ARGH!!!!! GET IT OUT GET IT OUT!!!!!
My work here is done!
Jacqui
ToniTalley1
>Now I've got a disturbing picture in my mind which is
>going to be stuck in there for days to come!
>
>ARGH!!!!! GET IT OUT GET IT OUT!!!!!
>
Heh, heh, Paul has a mind worm.
Susan Stansfield
In article <bb37ee$7k9$1...@mailgate2.lexis-nexis.com>, "Belinda Paschal"
<belinda...@lexisnexis.com> wrote:
>> >Heyyyy ... MAYBE it's not about abortion or nukes or seahorses ... maybe
>it was a declaration of Roger's BREAKFAST CEREAL preference!!! Heh, heh
>...
LOL!!
Susan Stansfield
In article <20030528154815...@mb-m07.aol.com>,
petep...@aol.comgoaway (DadIsGreatGiveUsTheChocolateCake) wrote:
>>Makes sense to me. BTW, Pete, like the "Dad is great" bit in your email
>>address. I know where it came from. <g>
>>
>>Susan
>
>Heh. Classic comedy bit.
Yeah, I love it.
Susan Stansfield
In article <20030529133957...@mb-m05.aol.com>, tonit...@aol.com
(ToniTalley1) wrote:
>And for those of us who are old enough to
>remember...............................................LIfe, he won't like
>it....
>"Hey, Mikey....he likes it!"
Heh heh heh. Yeah, I remember that.
ruth
>
> > True. But also note the phrase, "became pregnant". The last time I
> checked,
> > only females could get pregnant. So the above could be interpreted as
> "blaming
> > the girl".
>
> Well it's hardly going to read "I was irresponsible with my sex partner and
> we both became pregnant!"
>
unless as jacqui sez they're seahorses cos i think both of them can
become pregnant.
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Stunt Potato
then runs off to find another mate, while he fertilizes the eggs and gives
birth. The things you find while channel surfing, eh?!
Jacqui
"ruth" <ru...@zipworld.com.au> wrote in message
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Geoff Wood
> Apparently just the male - the female deposits her eggs in his pouch and
> then runs off to find another mate, while he fertilizes the eggs and
gives
> birth. The things you find while channel surfing, eh?!
That's going to give me nightmares ....
geoff
ToniTalley1
> the female deposits her eggs in his pouch and
>then runs off to find another mate, while he fertilizes the eggs and gives
>birth.
I'll drink to that. Finally, a species got it right!
Stunt Potato
can give birth to anything between 50 and 1500 seahorses in a violent labour
that can last up to two days. Wait, it gets better ... the male sometimes
dies after childbirth, due to seahorses not expelled from the pouch
putrefying. Nice!
Jacqui
"Geoff Wood" <ge...@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in message
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ruth
Jacqui's a bit naughty but ;-) : apparently they're quite monogamous and
the female does check up on how he's doing with his load every few days
: the actual courtship lasts a few days when they blush all kinds of
colours together, and after she's used a sort of female dick to blow all
the eggs into him, he obviously looks pregnant and she obviously looks
empty, so assumedly not attractive anymore! Sounds more fun with the
details ;-)
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Well that settles it. I'm not going anywhere near any seahorse chicks .
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ToniTalley1
>Well that settles it. I'm not going anywhere near any seahorse chicks .
>
>8
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> 0
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>geoff
Noooo, he's drawing again!
:::::closing eyes trying not to look::::::::
Geoff Wood
It's my only skill .....
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geoff
jpmc...@yahoo.com
> >Subject: Re: Roger Taylor with the Religious Right??!!
> >From: Bryan Harrison br...@NOSPAMjodieanne.co.uk
> >Date: 5/22/2003 6:19 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <bai86r$pc$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>
> >
> >>>>Let's not overract or anything, but to quote Roger:
> >>>>
> >>>>"I don't like religion, it tends to fuck people up"
> >>>
> >>>Didn't he also say something along the lines of; "I hate really religious
> >>>people."?
> >>>
> >> I guess that includes the Pope. Sad to know that Roger holds to
> >close-minded
> >> bigotry in an ironic attempt to be progressive and open-minded.
> >
> >The Pope? That's a laugh. Is he even alive enough to know what religion
> >he's a part of? <g>
> >But there is no-one more closed minded that someone who is "really
> >religious". Maybe that was Roger's point, and if it was, I agree. AND I
> >think you just proved it.
> >
>
> Explain how someone who happens to be religious is the epitome of
> "close-minded." I still don't see the connection, and saying so doesn't make
> it so.
>
> If anything, saying anyone religious is close-minded, or making blanket
> statements of "i hate religious people" is the epitome of being close-minded
> and bigoted.
>
> Dislike someone because their religious beliefs suck, but to decide not to have
> anything to do with and/or hate them simply because they believe in religion
> is writing off a lot of nice people.
> ----
>
> Cancer free as of 4/25/03.
"Happens to be religious"? One does not happen to be religious, one chooses to be religious. Unlike being gay, straight, black, white, female, male, being religious is a choice (whether forced on one as a child, or taken up as an adult). And though it is true there are plenty of religious people who are nice and kind-hearted, why are the radical fundamentalists always the ones making the most noise?