Marillion Disc Title?
Anthony Anello
"Do you remember". I have not seen any Marillion discs listing this as a
track. Could this possibly be a refrain in a song of a different title?
Thanks to all responders.
Tony A.
Michele Giardini
The CD you're looking for is "Misplaced Childhood", and the correct song title
is "Kayleigh".
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All the following:
AA> There is a Marillion disc that I want to pick up containing a cut
AA> entitled "Do you remember". I have not seen any Marillion discs
AA> listing this as a track. Could this possibly be a refrain in a song of
AA> a different title? Thanks to all responders.
Does it go something like this...
"Do you remember chalk hearts melting on a playground wall
Do you remember down escapes from moonwashed college halls
Do you remember cherry blossom in the market square
Do you remember I thought it was confetti in our hair
By the way, didn't I break your heart
Please excuse me, I never meant to break your heart
So sorry, I never meant to break your heart
But you broke mine"
It's "Kayleigh" from _Misplaced Childhood_, and I'm sure about a
hundred people will tell you.
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Tim Young
fswa...@tbie.hms.com (Frank Swarbrick) writes:
> On 01-16-19 12:28 Anthony Anello digitally screamed to
> All the following:
>
> AA> There is a Marillion disc that I want to pick up containing a cut
> AA> entitled "Do you remember". I have not seen any Marillion discs
> AA> listing this as a track. Could this possibly be a refrain in a song of
> AA> a different title? Thanks to all responders.
>
> Does it go something like this...
>
> "Do you remember chalk hearts melting on a playground wall
> Do you remember down escapes from moonwashed college halls
> Do you remember cherry blossom in the market square
> Do you remember I thought it was confetti in our hair
> By the way, didn't I break your heart
> Please excuse me, I never meant to break your heart
> So sorry, I never meant to break your heart
> But you broke mine"
>
> It's "Kayleigh" from _Misplaced Childhood_, and I'm sure about a
> hundred people will tell you.
That's it. I highly suggest picking up a copy of it. _Childhood_ is my
favorite Marillion album : actually, it's sort of like one continous
41-minute song.
In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
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Jeffrey Chri Sypeck
>
>In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
>that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
>meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
>seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
>
from the album cover) that a Heart of Lothian is some sort of military
decoration. I was unable to confirm this while visiting the military
museum in the castle in Edinburgh, though.
Incidentally, the mention of the Lothian Road in "Internal Exile"
isn't, despite what I thought at first, a reference to "Misplaced
Childhood." The Lothian Road is a street in Edinburgh which runs nearby
Prince's Street Gardens, the park in the shade of the castle which is a
charming and idyllic place to spend a warm summer afternoon. (I suspect
it was the inspiration for the lines in "Lavender" about kids in the
park playing in sprinkers, but of course there's no way to verify that.)
Jeff
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Erwin Gavic
>That's it. I highly suggest picking up a copy of it. _Childhood_ is my
>favorite Marillion album : actually, it's sort of like one continous
>41-minute song.
>In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
>that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
>meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
>seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
Lothian is a part in Scotland, the part where Fish is born!
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>* Tim Young , Dartmouth College , Class of '96 *
>* Who knows? These could be Dartmouth's opinions... *
>* "Did you ever get the feeling that the story's too *
>* damn real and in the present tense?" - Jethro Tull *
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>In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
>that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
>meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
>seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
Lothian is a landscape in Scotland : the vicinity of Edinburgh, south of
Firth of Forth. I think it's where Fish is born, but I'm not sure.
Dan Newcombe
> In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
> that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
> meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
> seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
I think this is in the FAQ for the freaks mailing list. Lotian is a place
in Scotland (a town) Fish actually lives in East Lothian.
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> In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
> that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
> meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
> seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
I believe Lothian is a district in Scotland.
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Lothian is an area of Scotland around Edinburgh. Heart's of Midlothian
ar an Edinburgh football (soccer team) although I believe Fish
supports city rivals Hibernian (Hibs). The Heart of Lothian, I seem
to recall, is also the name of the site of an old prison in Edinburgh.
Somone in Edinburgh should be able to fill in more.
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Tim Young
dnew...@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Dan Newcombe) writes:
> Timothy...@Dartmouth.EDU (Tim Young) writes:
> > In a related question, who or what is "Lothian?" One of the tracks on
> > that album is called "Heart of Lothian" and I was wondering what that
> > meant (I can partially derive it from the context of the lyrics - it
> > seems to be a hedonistic image, but I can't be sure.)
>
> I think this is in the FAQ for the freaks mailing list. Lotian is a place
> in Scotland (a town) Fish actually lives in East Lothian.
>
Thanx for the info on Lothian. I have some thematic questions about
"Childhood" : few people I know listen to it, and I don't get this
mailing list, but :
If Fish is indeed proud to be born "with a heart of Lothian", why does
he say the same for the "wide boys", which seem to be shallow,
superficial people. Or perhaps Fish is jealous of these "wide boys,"
maybe because of all the "lucky little ladies at the watering hole"
they seem to "score their Friday night goals." This theme seems
continue with "Waterhole (Expresso Boingo)," with more discussion of
drunkenness and sexual promiscuity ("funeral hearses court the death of
virginity" - indeed one of the more bizarre things I've heard on
record).
This theory seems to be validated by Fish (who ever his persona for
the album is) in "Lords of the Backstage," in which he seems to be
attempting wide-boy-like behavior and failing (hence the transition
into "Blind Curve", a five-part sequence of dour music, among the most
depressing things I've ever heard overall).
Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
that happened to him?
I discovered Marillion this summer, and there are few fans in the area
where I live : so I've been wondering about this stuff all summer.
Leah Duck
> Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
>why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
>that happened to him?
This is just a guess...*Misplaced Childhood* was dedicated to John Mylett (it
says this on the inside cover of the album and in the CD insert. This is just
a guess...maybe his nickname was Mylo...from Mylett..and something happened
to him...like an airplane crash. Like I said...this is just a guess.
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Erwin Gavic
>Timothy...@Dartmouth.EDU (Tim Young) writes:
>> Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
>>why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
>>that happened to him?
>This is just a guess...*Misplaced Childhood* was dedicated to John Mylett (it
>says this on the inside cover of the album and in the CD insert. This is just
>a guess...maybe his nickname was Mylo...from Mylett..and something happened
>to him...like an airplane crash. Like I said...this is just a guess.
I am not sure at all, but I remember I read somewhere the same thing you write
here, about a freind of Fish who was called Mylo, and died, I thought
it was a car accident. So it's not such a big guess as you thought...
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Thomas Selegue
>In article <c0ZBac...@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
> Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
>why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
>that happened to him?
I kind of gather that Mylo may have been a child that the lamenting author
and his lost wife had, and he died. Mylo "went down" and they "sat and cried
on the phone". They were apart and terribly upset to lose their child. the
next line is what suggests this to me: "he was the first of our own". Maybe
the interviewer is interested because Mylo was injured in foul play or a
publicized accident??? Is this what is bringing up all these bad feelings
or is it just another bad feeling that he is remembering?
Misplaced,
Tom
Brian G. Crawford
don't know if this is what you're looking for, but it may be.
On the Royal Mile, on the site of the now torn down Edinburgh prison,
there is a heart shape made out of bricks on the sidewalk. This is
called the Heart of Mid-Lothian. There is some folklore attached to
it, but I don't know all of it. Sir Walter Scott wrote a novel
entitled THE HEART OF MID-LOTHIAN. Also, it is supposedly good luck to
spit on the heart, but bad luck to step on it.
Brian G. Crawford
Jeffrey Chri Sypeck
>> Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
>>why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
>>that happened to him?
>
> I kind of gather that Mylo may have been a child that the lamenting author
>and his lost wife had, and he died. Mylo "went down" and they "sat and cried
>on the phone". They were apart and terribly upset to lose their child. the
>next line is what suggests this to me: "he was the first of our own". Maybe
>the interviewer is interested because Mylo was injured in foul play or a
>
some sort of loose-knit group of friends or companions who had just seen
one of their own die somehow. I would guess either fellow veterans, a
member of a hedonistic, devil-may-care drinking circle, or both.
Jeff
David Owen
>>> Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
>>>why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
>>>that happened to him?
>>
Mylo was the nickname of John Mylott, the drummer of RAGE, formerly NUTZ,
who were from my home town of Liverpool, and often supported Marillion
in the early eighties.
Mylo died in a car accident on holiday in Spain with his girlfriend. Rage
did not continue, but the first date of the REAL TO REEL tour at
Liverpool's Royal Court Theatre was a benefit for the "John Mylott Rock
Drummer's Trust Fund". The surviving members of Rage performed as the
opening act, joined by Fish for one number, and the singer and bass
player later joined Marillion on stage for their first encore of
"Fugazi".
It was a great gig, and the live premiere of what became side one of
MISPLACED CHILDHOOD. Incidentally, when Fish left, Rage singer Dave
Lloyd (the original voice of the Cadbury's 'Flake' adverts !) joined
Marillion for one gig at the Royal Court.
Dave.
joachim lous
> In article <selegue.749079137@aries> sel...@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Thomas Selegue) writes:
> >> Now, there's something else I don't understand : Mylo - who is he and
> >>why is an interviewer interested in Fish's reaction to whatever it was
> >>that happened to him?
> >
> some sort of loose-knit group of friends or companions who had just seen
> one of their own die somehow. I would guess either fellow veterans, a
> member of a hedonistic, devil-may-care drinking circle, or both.
>
and other hard-living jet-setters to 'go down' in one way or another,
drugs and accidents being the most 'popular'. The narrator and
his circle are aware of these dangers, but Mylo was the first of
the 'us' that the narrator belongs to. he belonged to
(implicitly not the last). He then goes on
to tell how others (himself?) went/are going down (in a hase of
publicity or in a blaze of obscurity). This seems compatible
with the explenation of who Mylo was (which I didn't know about
till today)
Having moved on a little musically, I consider myself more or
les 'finished' with Marillion (though I used to be a great fan.
discovering Marillion is a great experience), Misplaced Childhood
is still a great album, and I agree that 'Blind Curve' is one of
the saddest and most stirring pieces of music I have ever heard.
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David> did not continue, but the first date of the REAL TO REEL tour at
David> Liverpool's Royal Court Theatre was a benefit for the "John Mylott Rock
(...)
David> It was a great gig, and the live premiere of what became side one of
David> MISPLACED CHILDHOOD. Incidentally, when Fish left, Rage singer Dave
That so? _Market Square Heroes_ (the book) says that the first side
of Misplaced Childhood was first performed live at a gig at the Gota
Lejon in Stockholm, Sweden. I forget the exact date, but I can check
later today. I have a bootleg of said gig ("Passport", 2LP), and it is
indeed a very raw version with vastly different lyrics.
Someone who has the book could check if my memory is working; I
don't have the book anymore.
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Subject: Re: Heart of Lothian (was Re: Marillion Disc Title?)
> I always thought the "he was the first of our own" alluded to a member of
> some sort of loose-knit group of friends or companions who had just seen
> one of their own die somehow. I would guess either fellow veterans, a
> member of a hedonistic, devil-may-care drinking circle, or both.
>
That is exactly my interpretation as well. Remember this song comes
a little after The Watering Hole, (where taxis gather in mock solemnity of
funeral herses for the death of virginity...)
Also, if you look at the song as the lyrics progress...
...some of us go down in a haze of obscurity, some of us go down in a haze
of publicity....the price of infamy....a casual obscenity.
My interpretation of the whole album is of a poet who lost his muse, but
rediscovers it while living a wild life of drugs and alcohol.
...well I hit the streets back in '81, found my heart in the gutter and a
poets crown....
After breaking up with Kayleigh, he falls into depression and 'hits the
streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
in love and is taken into the whole club subculture of the early eighties.
he eventually becomes famous, and happens to be in Toronto, when he finds
out that Milo has been killed/died. He gets drunk, takes sleeping pills
etc.
Somewhere in the process his life seems clear and straightforward (...and it
was morning, and I found myself mourning for a childhood, that I thought had
disappeared...)
Now the final few songs make me think that Milo was
killed in a terrorist attack on an airliner (milo went down and other lines
I can't recall just now ).
...I see a war widow in a laundrette, washing the memories from her
husband's clothes...with medals pinned to her threadbare gray coat, with
cemetary eyes.../....oh I can't take any more.../...drenched with napalm,
this is no vietnam.../...and they call us civilized?!
White Feather is basically another version of
Fugazi with more of an anti-nationalism bent to it.
Jeez, I really went nuts here...but there it is, my personal interpretation
of the album. Sorry if the lyrics are a bit of or fragmented...it's all
from memory.
I certainly hope somebody agrees with me!
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D Fishlock
Leah Duck
>In article <CDzMp...@news.udel.edu> jsy...@brahms.udel.edu (Jeffrey Chri Sypeck) writes:
>Subject: Re: Heart of Lothian (was Re: Marillion Disc Title?)
>> I always thought the "he was the first of our own" alluded to a member of
>> some sort of loose-knit group of friends or companions who had just seen
>> one of their own die somehow. I would guess either fellow veterans, a
>> member of a hedonistic, devil-may-care drinking circle, or both.
>>
> That is exactly my interpretation as well. Remember this song comes
>a little after The Watering Hole, (where taxis gather in mock solemnity of
>funeral herses for the death of virginity...)
Someone just recently wrote in a post that Lothian was actually a road...look at the post for more info. (I'm sorry...I forgot the title of the post.)
>Also, if you look at the song as the lyrics progress...
>...some of us go down in a haze of obscurity, some of us go down in a haze
>of publicity....the price of infamy....a casual obscenity.
> My interpretation of the whole album is of a poet who lost his muse, but
>rediscovers it while living a wild life of drugs and alcohol.
>...well I hit the streets back in '81, found my heart in the gutter and a
>poets crown....
> After breaking up with Kayleigh, he falls into depression and 'hits the
>streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
In French (re: J'entend ton coeur"--meaning "I have your heart" not as
Fish says, "I can hear your heart." So perfect poets aren't omnipotent...I
still think he's the most incredible poet, everybody makes mistakes.), a Mag-
dalene is literally translated as "whore." The bruses might not just
be from heroin, but from abuse.
>in love and is taken into the whole club subculture of the early eighties.
> he eventually becomes famous, and happens to be in Toronto, when he finds
>out that Milo has been killed/died. He gets drunk, takes sleeping pills
>etc.
>Somewhere in the process his life seems clear and straightforward (...and it
>was morning, and I found myself mourning for a childhood, that I thought had
>disappeared...)
> Now the final few songs make me think that Milo was
>killed in a terrorist attack on an airliner (milo went down and other lines
>I can't recall just now ).
About Mylo...check out another post (again). I mentioned that *Misplaced
Childhood* was dedicated to John Mylett. Mylo was his nickname...the other
info is in a REALLY informative post. If you want I'll send you a copy. I
don't remember the complete specifics right now, but he was a friend who
was killed in a car accident.
>...I see a war widow in a laundrette, washing the memories from her
>husband's clothes...with medals pinned to her threadbare gray coat, with
>cemetary eyes.../....oh I can't take any more.../...drenched with napalm,
>this is no vietnam.../...and they call us civilized?!
> White Feather is basically another version of
>Fugazi with more of an anti-nationalism bent to it.
>Jeez, I really went nuts here...but there it is, my personal interpretation
>of the album. Sorry if the lyrics are a bit of or fragmented...it's all
>from memory.
>I certainly hope somebody agrees with me!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>D Fishlock
Good ideas...but some of them have actually be substanciated by people who
know Fish-facts better that both me and you. Just my $.02!!!
Jeffrey Chri Sypeck
>
>...well I hit the streets back in '81, found my heart in the gutter and a
>poets crown....
>
> After breaking up with Kayleigh, he falls into depression and 'hits the
>streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
>in love and is taken into the whole club subculture of the early eighties.
> he eventually becomes famous, and happens to be in Toronto, when he finds
>out that Milo has been killed/died. He gets drunk, takes sleeping pills
>etc.
Well, he certainly doesn't "fall in love" with "Magdalene." A Magdalene
refers to a prostitute who, as Fish points out, "refuses to give her name."
And yeah, she's on heroin...but I don't think she introduces him to anything
except for a bit of further introspection.
>
>
> Now the final few songs make me think that Milo was
>killed in a terrorist attack on an airliner (milo went down and other lines
>I can't recall just now ).
That's...interesting. :) I don't think there's much to suggest that,
though, and I don't think Mylo's "going down" is meant to be taken
literally.
>
Jeff
Jeffrey Chri Sypeck
>
>Someone just recently wrote in a post that Lothian was actually a road...look at the post for more info. (I'm sorry...I forgot the title of the post.)
>
alongside Prince's Street Gardens. It's mentioned in the song "Internal
Exile," but it has nothing to do with "Misplaced Childhood" and isn't
a reference to it. :)
Jeff
Pierre Pierre Blais
>
>>In article <CDzMp...@news.udel.edu> jsy...@brahms.udel.edu (Jeffrey Chri Sypeck) writes:
>>Subject: Re: Heart of Lothian (was Re: Marillion Disc Title?)
>>> I always thought the "he was the first of our own" alluded to a member of
>
>> After breaking up with Kayleigh, he falls into depression and 'hits the
>>streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
>In French (re: J'entend ton coeur"--meaning "I have your heart" not as
>Fish says, "I can hear your heart." So perfect poets aren't omnipotent...I
Sorry to disappoint you Leah. Derek may not be omnipotent, but his
translation is probably right! "J'entends to coeur" actually means
"I hear your heart". In some contexts, it can be translated as "I can
hear your heart". (Say, if someone said: "Entends-tu mon coeur?", the
response would be "[Oui,] J'entends ton coeur.".)
The only mistake I saw here is the "s" missing at the end of "entend"
when used in the first person, singular. I don't know if it is actually
missing in the lyrics, though.
Anyway, I'm not surprised Fish knows French well, given the time he
spends in Lyon (mostly for the food I hear, but probably also for the
women...).
>know Fish-facts better that both me and you. Just my $.02!!!
>
> --Leah J. Dicker
> dic...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> College of Education
>
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Leah Duck
>>> After breaking up with Kayleigh, he falls into depression and 'hits the
>>>streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
>>In French (re: J'entend ton coeur"--meaning "I have your heart" not as
>>Fish says, "I can hear your heart." So perfect poets aren't omnipotent...I
>Sorry to disappoint you Leah. Derek may not be omnipotent, but his
>translation is probably right! "J'entends to coeur" actually means
>"I hear your heart". In some contexts, it can be translated as "I can
>hear your heart". (Say, if someone said: "Entends-tu mon coeur?", the
>response would be "[Oui,] J'entends ton coeur.".)
>The only mistake I saw here is the "s" missing at the end of "entend"
>when used in the first person, singular. I don't know if it is actually
>missing in the lyrics, though.
>Anyway, I'm not surprised Fish knows French well, given the time he
>spends in Lyon (mostly for the food I hear, but probably also for the
>women...).
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I'm sorry...when I was in high school I asked my French teacher about
this sentence and what I wrote down in my post is what she told me. I
guess my teacher was pretty bad. Sorry about the misinformation!!!!!
--Leah J. Dicker
dic...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Chamapaign
College of Education
Roberto Lambooy
>>streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
>In French (re: J'entend ton coeur"--meaning "I have your heart" not as
>Fish says, "I can hear your heart." So perfect poets aren't omnipotent...I
>still think he's the most incredible poet, everybody makes mistakes.)
You'd better take out your distionary and look up entendre, cause French
speaking would agree with you on this one.
Nilo STOLTE
|> In article <28cat9$k...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> dic...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Leah Duck ) writes:
|> >> After breaking up with Kayleigh, he falls into depression and 'hits the
|> >>streets'. He meets up with Magdaleign (who I believe was on heroin), falls
|> >In French (re: J'entend ton coeur"--meaning "I have your heart" not as
|> >Fish says, "I can hear your heart." So perfect poets aren't omnipotent...I
|> >still think he's the most incredible poet, everybody makes mistakes.)
|>
|> You'd better take out your distionary and look up entendre, cause French
|> speaking would agree with you on this one.
You would say DISAGREE, since "J'entend ton coeur" is exactly
"I hear your heart"!!!!!
So Fish was RIGHT!
Nilo.
Leah Duck
>|> >In French (re: J'entend ton coeur"--meaning "I have your heart" not as
>|> >Fish says, "I can hear your heart." So perfect poets aren't omnipotent...I
>|> >still think he's the most incredible poet, everybody makes mistakes.)
>|>
>|> You'd better take out your distionary and look up entendre, cause French
>|> speaking would agree with you on this one.
>You would say DISAGREE, since "J'entend ton coeur" is exactly
>"I hear your heart"!!!!!
My God!!!! I'm sorry!!!!!! Can't someone make a mistake. I think I've
had enough of this flame war. I'm wrong! I'm wrong! What else do I
have do to make up for this mistake which is apparently punishable by
beheading! Why don't you just mail me some hate letters and get it over
with.
--Leah J. Dicker
dic...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
University of Illinios at Urbana-Champaign
College of Education (not French)
(still a Marillion fan despite how fans seem to treat other fans)
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